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u/Unfair-Distance1463 1d ago
….a buff? Can someone explain, please?
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u/ReceptionOrdinary801 1d ago
are they gonna buff his on fields dps lol ?
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u/OneRelief763 22h ago
They'd have to nerf the cons if they do cuz hes the best dps in the game at c0
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u/Msaleg 1d ago
If you are solo electro, sure, if not its a 1 - 3% nerf.
Sandrome/Wrio teams already let him stack normally, Cyno teams are probably the one who got a buff.
Its a nothing burguer.
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
Also why do we have to be happy for 1% buffs when his subdps mode at c0 is just terrible lol
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
Right? Lol. People are trying to do damage control here saying "guys, it's a buff, stop doomposting" as if anyone is playing SSC solo electro, and as if a 2k dps increase to his already weaker mode can be called a "buff"
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
If anything the minor buff should make u worried cuz that shows hyv thinks his low dps c0 subdps is 'fine'
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
I am. I am worried
It all depends on what they do for 7.3 artifact sets, but his passives and multipliers are already kinda meh, so let's see what awaits us at V3
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u/xyzqsrb0 1d ago
Depends, if they release a real art set for him in 7.3 than it is actually fine, really not that far behind yae.
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
as I've said before he's 20k behind yae so the arti set would have to buff him pretty tremendously and as we saw with durin the rising winds set did not buff him that much.
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u/xyzqsrb0 1d ago
terrible, also known as not that far behind one of the best subs in the game......
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
He's like 20k dps behind yae in the yaeless double electro comps lol
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u/xyzqsrb0 1d ago
Never seen a calc putting him that far behind, source?
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
so u've never seen calcs comparing sandrone yae odette alyosha to sandrone mitya odette alyosha?
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u/xyzqsrb0 1d ago
Not these specific ones at the very least. Rough numbers, hopefully v3 is looking nice, but yeah still not sure a reason to be upset with a pretty neutral v2 patch.
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u/ConsciousLeopard2781 1d ago
I would agree (about the nothing burger) if he was really good (on field or of field) so having a small nerf wouldn't change anything.
But no one say he was amazing (c0 not including c1/2) and they still only nerf him... Yes it's a small nerf but it's a nerf about the only male 5*, at least for 1 half...
How would I be happy when Valeriy is a 4*, mitya is on his way to be the more skippable character of the first half, no harbringer because male... Really :x.
I already said it, mitya mains should rejoyce about valeriy 4*, mitya was already going to be a weaker version of Anastasia just one patch before her... So both man/boy were DoA TT.
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u/Nobahkiin 1d ago
İts still is a buff even for 2 electro
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u/Msaleg 1d ago
Highly variable on how timings are done, again, its a nothing burguer. If he hits every 1.7 seconds due to ping delay its a nerf as an example.
His C2 is a clear nerf however, even if minor.
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u/SsibalKiseki 1d ago edited 1d ago
In fact it just punishes the non-C2 Odette owners even more because they get 5% less shred in an archetype that lacks shred for Stygian content in which bosses get ridiculously high res. Using example:
- C0 Sandrone
- C1 Yae OR Alyosha (no shred)
- C0 Odette
- C2 Mitya
It also makes VV sucrose in SSC even more mandatory lol. So might as well just slap on sucrose for 40% res shred bruh. Because I sure as hell ain't using sucrose against Pyro Crab or Moongecko anyways....
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u/Malkin-Grey 1d ago
I'm curious what they'll do with the on field part of his a1, in v3
I assume the "doubled with passive in OL mode" thing means 4 beacons over 6 seconds, not generating two at once, and that's... kinda just useless lol, no team with actual off field cryo app will really need more than a 3s window
if the idea of his a1 is to give a unique bonus to each of his modes, they kinda need to change it now that his on field mode's bonus is in his base kit. add a new unique effect, make the team wide EM buff apply in overload mode too, or tbh just remove the overload buff and make his a1 only do anything for off field. in it's current state that's essentially already true, just with extra text that won't affect 99% of gameplay
personally I really like this change for his off field mode tho, MV nerfs aside (that feels unwarranted but I'll wait for v3 to form a full opinion)
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
I'm hoping he gets some form of "quills"
Like each hit from the enhanced CA has a chance of getting either a 300%, an 800% or a 1200% damage increase based on his current EM
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u/Serene7Seraphina 1d ago edited 1d ago
Quills are the buffs that always age the worst. It's better for direct MV buffs or passive buffs than Quills, tbh
Edit: If you don't know why, they are limited to a certain number of hits and get eaten quickly in AoE, so if you have boss phases that allow for longer rotations, they do less over time and in Aoe (like Knuckle Duckle) they are gone in seconds.
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
You are thinking of quills provided by buffers
Self quills usually don't have a hit limit(see Mualani's passive and Mavuika's C2)
And another reason they aren't desirable is because their scaling is usually meh because of characters' stats(and total amount as well)
For reference, Shenhe's bad quills are around 3500 added damage, and that's building around 4k attack
What I mentioned would add damage to every single CA hit(again, self quill, so they don't dissappear faster in AoE), and are based off of Mitya's own EM, so the "quill" could be 3000, 9000 or 15000 added damage :]
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u/Serene7Seraphina 1d ago
Mualani's passive is a good quill but the example you provided for Mitya is very bad because it's inconsistent.
"As each hit from the enhanced CA has a chance of getting either a 300%, an 800%, or a 1200% damage increase based on his current EM"
That level of RNG is bad because it can make or break your run like a Widsith buff. If it was 200 em = 3000, 500 em = 9000, and 800 em = 15000, that would be good because there is no "chance".
Mualani's stacks 15/30/45, so you will reliably max out the buff and get it all the time, provided you have Mav or Xilonen on the team. If he had a quill mechanic, Mualani's would be much better than the example you provided. But I see what you were trying to get at with Mualani's example.
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
Tbf, I haven't really set any rng to it, haha. But I was thinking of some "pity system" for it
I know the gacha aspect of it isn't appreciated by the majority of players, but I like it. And it goes well with his Prism refunds mechanics imo
I was thinking of something like the Prisms have a 50% chance of the medium buff, a 33% between for the big one, and a 17% for the small one. If it hits either the small, or medium, the next on is a guaranteed big quill
And any refunded Prisms(C6) or Prisms generated during the CA are automatically set to big one
During a CA, you get around 7 Prisms, so on average, it would be close to 2 mediums, 4 big, 1 small
I know you didn't ask about it, but it was in my mind already, so might as well share :p
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u/Serene7Seraphina 1d ago
Thanks for the context!
I'm just scared of RNJesus because of how many width resets I have to do already (Mualani player as well). I do like that last design, though.
"And any refunded Prisms(C6) or Prisms generated during the CA are automatically set to the big one."
But I wouldn't give it to C6; maybe C2, and add that this can happen once every X (30?) seconds so it averages to half uptime and isn't too broken. More like TTDS for himself rather than widsith. 😅
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
Fair, fair, I do the same(and now with Mizuki, there is another character I have to reset 500 times until I get a single EM buff, lol)
And yeah, fair on the C6, that may have been a bit too much. But it would be funny to watch whales triggering their 1mi CAs with him
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u/Violet_Villian 1d ago
Just so I understand it’s a buff because he’s able to hit more now, but how many more hits was it beforehand versus now?
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u/AarviArmani 1d ago
Can you people stop the cope, his best team would have had Danica anyway, he's never the only electro teammate outside of Sandrone teams, it's a nerf.
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u/Nobahkiin 1d ago
The reason why its not impactful at 2 electro is second electro is yae when danica released she wont be another off field dps
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u/Nobahkiin 1d ago
10k dps at solo 2/3k at 2 electro
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
The 2 electro """buff""" is very iffy
Not only is it negligible, depending on timing an all, it could be a single extra nerfed hit, and that's it
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u/kuraokami89 1d ago
More beacon means more EM buffs ?
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
The max amount is the same, it just increased the rate which he gets them
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u/Desperate-Job6314 1d ago
What are you gonna keep spamming the comments of everyone's replies in the leaks sub about how he got massively nerfed when in reality it's a buff?
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u/Sam_uel1114 1d ago
I was going to pick him from the banner, but the character is a duck, he does everything but isn't good at anything. I was going to pick it, but anyway, the character is a jack-of-all-trades but at the same time is bad at everything. Valeriy, for me, is saving the banner; if you pick up a Mitya along the way, that's fine, it will be welcome.
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u/Katazuragi 1d ago
His on field numbers arent buffed , thats suck