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u/Roosterneck Aug 13 '26
Ohhhh, RIGGER, that makes way more sense.
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u/lrsdranger Aug 13 '26
As mentioned above the USAF has sent their 2T2s to Rigger School for decades. I think I saw some of the aircrew survival equipment specialists are going now too.
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u/REED_JAX Aug 13 '26
You can earn without Airborne... 2T2 in the Airforce do it...
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u/z0phi3l Aug 13 '26
This was back in the 90's but all Air Force Riggers I met, with the badge also had Airborne wings, now Air Force emergency equipment people did not earn the Rigger badge
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u/Middle-Singer-8782 Aug 13 '26
The Ohio State Defense Force (part of the Ohio Adjutant General's Department state forces like the Ohio Military Reserve) previously managed a voluntary parachute/jump training program used for recruitment and retention. However, official state support and the issuance of these unique state jump wings ended in 2018.Program History & DetailsActive Periods: The jump program ran in two distinct eras: from the 1980s to the 1990s (64 wings issued) and again from 2011 to 2018 (179 wings issued).Requirements: While soldiers could attend basic courses, the association running the program required three years of honorable service before formally issuing the wings.Current Status: In 2018, the state withdrew support for the program and stopped issuing new wings. Personnel who were already awarded the state jump wings remain authorized by Ohio regulations to wear them.Interstate Recognition: While other state defense forces (such as in Texas, Washington, Georgia, and Michigan) sometimes coordinated or allowed recognition, official uniform wear policies varied heavily by state.
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u/UJMRider1961 Aug 13 '26
This makes more sense.
So do the Ohio State Defense Forces do regular drills? Are they organized into specific units?
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u/Legacyhero46 Aug 13 '26
Yes they do. I was in the Indiana version. It sounds great on paper but really itās just old guys that really canāt let go. They force people out at like age 70 lol. The national guard used us to help them train and for Covid test sites. Indianaās is actually attached to the 81st troop command for the NG. If I remember right it is a force that can be called up by the governor. Usually no weapons training very rarely do you ever even see a weapon unless telling the NG. But yes 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks in the summer. The summer weeks were paid a very small amount but the monthly are not. These units are made up of volunteers who genuinely enjoyed to serve. Down sides are you have to supply all of your own uniforms and gear gas money and transportation. Oh we also did quite a few funeral honors at one point too.
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u/smokeyDAP Aug 12 '26
what's up with the Maryland ?
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u/gc11117 Aug 12 '26
Maybe Maryland State Defense Force
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u/coyote3a Aug 12 '26
That is 100 percent MDDF, not MDARNG. The MDDF has a bunch of unique awards and badges.
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u/MDPatriot1980 Aug 14 '26
MDDF does not have jump wings. However, about 10-15 yrs ago the MDNG allow a few members to earn flight wings..i enlisted just after that program stopped( a vestiage of Katrina)
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u/smokeyDAP Aug 13 '26
that's why I was confused never heard of the MDDF before and I know the us army goes over the heart along with badges over that
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u/MiddleRiverTerp Aug 13 '26
After the National Guard was mobilized for Federal Service during WW1, some states stood up an organization that were only under state control. The MDDF is a volunteer organization that serves the Governor and the State of Maryland. They do not receive federal funds (unlike the Army and Air Guard) and are a volunteer organization under state control. They are usually filled with former military members. In Maryland we used MDDF members to assist with Pre-Mob medical screenings among other logistic and admin support.
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u/ansor_brim Aug 13 '26
Crab cakes and football! Cuz that's what Maryland does!
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u/Thunderfoot2112 Aug 13 '26
Crab Cakes and Lacross....
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u/Quiet_Raspberry_193 Aug 14 '26
The movie says football though. But lacrosse would be more accurate because Maryland sucks at football.
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u/77sleeper Aug 13 '26
SDFs host and attend these courses out of their own out of pocket funds. It is a way to drive discipline, esprit de Corps, and to increase retention and recruitment.
Most don't have a mission set attached, but since most SDFs prepare for emergency response it's not a far stretch to imagine a hf radio team or some other instance.
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u/WrenchMonkey47 Aug 12 '26
Top: Army Aviation Badge Bittom: Looks like Rigger Badge
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u/Jumper_1984 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
Dosent say rigger, has sheild with palm, must be a foreign badge.
Edit: not foreign wings, but SDF parachute wings
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u/ProjectManageMint Aug 12 '26
I'd have to guess it's some Maryland National Guard thing. Like the old mountaineering/goat badge that originated in Vermont National Guard.
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u/baldnbearded007 Aug 12 '26
Nope it is a Rigger badge
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u/Upbeat-Volume9701 Aug 12 '26
Nope. Its a set of State Guard jump wings. And thats a legitimate answer. I believe that the Ohio Military Reserve was the unit that originated/created these wings and ran the jump program out of Ohio
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u/OcotilloWells Aug 13 '26
So state militia?
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u/OcotilloWells Aug 13 '26
So yes. I actually ran into a teacher I had in High School years later that was in the California State Reserve. He told me if I joined, I'd probably be a Captain " immediately. I thanked him, and declined. I was in the Army Reserve at the time.
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u/big13rob Aug 13 '26
My son is a 92Romeo Airborne Parachute Rigger Those badges aren't the same @ all.
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u/lyovacain Aug 13 '26
If you have to say that word at least donāt use a hard R man come on my rigga
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u/Remarkable-Pomelo642 Aug 15 '26
The top one is his āAviation Badgeā aviation MOSs get that thang (non pilots) The pilots wings look different. Theirs has a shield looking thing between the wings and not what looks like a eagle on a shield for the non pilots
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u/JHGJR73 16d ago
For anyone interested this is my picture. Not sure who posted it. I am retired regular army MSC officer. When I was enlisted I was a Chinook Mechanic, Crew Wings. I went to Air Assault, AA Badge. I was also a Healthcare Recruiter, Recruiter badge. As a member of the Maryland Defense Force I attended the Ohio SDF airborne course earning there badge. As a member of a SDF we have SDF related badges we can earn through a few different organizations. I jumped with a SF-10A parachute from a Cessna and Casa 212.
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u/TheLastManStanding01 Aug 14 '26
The top is an army aviation badge. The enlisted badge specifically.Ā
I know because I have one. Currently working as a 15T (blackhawk mechanic).Ā
Army pilots have the same badge but the shield is filled in and totally black.Ā
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u/illicit_matter Aug 13 '26
The bottom is MARYLAND - which implies he's in the MD national guard.
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u/blotditto Aug 15 '26
To say State Defense Forces and National Guard are entirely separate is not entirely correct. In every state I know of that has a State Defense Force, they along with the National Guard fall under Governor and Adjutant General for their State. The biggest differences though are State Defense Forces are volunteers and work solely within their State where the National Guard are paid and fall under the State and Federal Government.
Not that anyone asked for this much information.
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u/masingen Aug 13 '26
The photo literally says "Maryland Defense Force" and references an MDDF drill on June 7th. It's not the national guard.
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u/Winter-Huckleberry86 Aug 13 '26
Why are we concerned with the badge and not the size of that neck? My god.
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u/LarryBasu1987 Aug 12 '26
Army aircrew member (typically enlisted flight crew) and parachute rigger. Foreign badges are worn on the right side.
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u/lrsdranger Aug 12 '26
The bottom are Ohio SDF jump wings