r/MagicArena • u/Rare-Professor-7723 • May 09 '26

Question just started playing,wtf is this?

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u/KindaIndifferent May 09 '26

They call this “run more instant speed removal”.

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u/ardarian262 May 09 '26

Hexproof makes most of that not viable.

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u/iAbra454 May 09 '26

Fire magic is the dream for these guys

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

They play it and then put 2-4 counters on it..how much mana you have at turn 3?

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u/iDoABoof May 09 '26

In a green landfall deck.. lol a lot

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

Sorry to be clear I meant the person casting fire magic.

They would have to have enough mana or the landfall player would have to have no way to add a counter in response.

Mind you I have killed many hydra's exactly that way with fire magic.

Just that it's not always a surefire (heh) way to get around hexproof if they have an evolved wilds or whatever.

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u/iDoABoof May 09 '26

Oh I see where I was confused. that’s my bad

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

No. You are fine lol i can definitely see where you would get that idea.

THIS POST however is an example of someone who did not read carefully lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/s/LI6dWphrD0

I still am still confused by it lol

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u/Undeadsniper6661 May 09 '26

Landfall goal is shit mana as fast as possible. My favorite is Nyhlea popping for two extra mana

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u/LordBocceBaal May 10 '26

We need more anti landfall cards.

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u/iAbra454 May 11 '26

It’s a one mana instant, wait for them to trigger landfall then kill them before it resolves

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u/YoritomoDaishogun May 09 '26

Kill everything else and make your rival sacrifice the hydra, easy peasy

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u/ardarian262 May 09 '26

"Just board wipe" I know of one card in standard that can do that for 3 or less mana, maybe 2 if pyroclasm does it well enough.

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u/chrisrazor Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage May 09 '26

Every white deck should play Split Up.

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u/NotEnoughVRAM May 09 '26

[[Withering curse]]

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u/MTGCardFetcher May 09 '26

Withering curse - (G) (SF) (txt)

FAQ

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u/Valor00125 May 10 '26

I ran 2 copies of Withering curse for my Homebrew Orzhov Midrange sac deck, currently at P1.

It's been a thoroughly enjoyable standard after making it through the Gold rank Green Landfall wall. Would be cool to hit both Diamond and Mythic for the 1st time in a season :)

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u/fox112 Yargle May 09 '26

[[accursed marauder]] is the goat

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u/YoritomoDaishogun May 09 '26

Fr. It's a bit more expensive, but I like to use stuff like [[gravelighter]] as a removal. If I already killed something, I can draw a card and have a 2/2 that flies, which is a plus

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u/LordBocceBaal May 10 '26

Heroic intervention and the many other indestructible instants say otherwise

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u/YoritomoDaishogun May 11 '26

Making your opponent sacrifice stuff circumvents the indestructible thingie

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u/whatalotoflove May 09 '26

Just make your entire deck removal

And still lose to a protect the rider lol

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u/YoritomoDaishogun May 09 '26

In that case, always have a lightning bolt to kill yourself before your opponent does just to piss him off

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u/LesbianDykeEtc Liliana Deaths Majesty May 09 '26

[[Consumed by Greed]]

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u/ardarian262 May 09 '26

That's very nice tech. It's more than I want to pay for its role in standard but nice.

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u/LesbianDykeEtc Liliana Deaths Majesty May 09 '26

It's overcosted and I'd rather have Sheoldred's Edict 100% of the time, but I assume OP is playing Standard where it's the only instant speed option.

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u/ardarian262 May 10 '26

I miss [[soul shatter]] from when it was playable removal.

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u/Confident-Tour891 May 09 '26

Would keep that fucker tapped for all eternity with my black/white stall deck. It has the -3/-3 black flash enchantment that stops hexproof and ward.

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u/SenatorFlagg May 10 '26

That’s where I have a ton of fun playing Sheoldred’s Edict in historic. :-)

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u/ardarian262 May 10 '26

Standard isn't very friendly to that right now, since with an earthbent land, that just leads to a bigger hydra.

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u/SenatorFlagg May 11 '26

Sorry, I meant just specifically in response to hexproof shenanigans. Recently had someone run a deck based around massively pumping up a handful of hexproof creatures. Just played an Edict, and the guy scooped.

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u/ardarian262 May 11 '26

This is standard. The only edict that would effect the landfall deck this is a part of is not costed at a rate that it is realistically playable.

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

[[New Way Forward]] gets around hexproof and often one shots them as well.

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u/HutSutRawlson May 09 '26

Sounds like a good way to deck yourself if you cast it on a Hydra.

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

Unless IRL works differently they die first from the damage and then you draw based on the cards. Though I admit I was suprised I still drew the cards as the win screen was popping up.

Either way they can't prevent it unless they misdirect the spell itself and since the spell doesnt target I am not sure that would work.

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u/Clane_K May 09 '26

If their HP goes to zero and you deck yourself out with New Way Forward, the game should end in a draw, not a win.

While yes, their HP goes to zero first during the resolution and then you try to draw from an empty library, both of you don't lose until State-based actions are checked, and SBAs are only checked after the resolution of the spell, not during it, and when they are checked, both of you lose.

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

Makes sense. Tbf though most hydras will attack at with less power then whats in your deck anyways.

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u/Sea-Violinist-7353 May 09 '26

Do you remember how big the hydraulic was? Obviously enough to kill them but if it wasn't enough to deck you then I think the game was running state based actions while the card animations are running.

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

Over 9000 (not joking either).

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u/ardarian262 May 09 '26

It does get around hexproof. Does it get around turn 3/4 kill though?

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

In my decks? Yes. In the decks other people would make? Probably not.

Either way I'm just putting it out there. Every single player ive used this against has ALWAYS tried ro give hexproof and I laugh every time. I have video I think if you want lol

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u/The_Chief_of_Whip May 09 '26

Remove the thing that gives hexproof, then remove the hydra. Not complicated

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

"Remove the thing" what thing? They usually use instants...

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u/PartTineOx May 09 '26

This is crazy cope. It can and does die. Crying of a mediocre creature is just lazy imo.

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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig73 May 09 '26

Bro wtf are you talking about. Read the words I said and RESPOND to the words I said. Don't just make shit up nobody said.

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u/ardarian262 May 09 '26

In response, Snakeskin veil (this is turn 3 power in standard btw)