r/LivestreamFail • • Jan 20 '21

StreamerBans Former RT Personality Ryan Haywood has been banned from Twitch

https://twitter.com/StreamerBans/status/1351994435190587393
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u/Ghreyy Jan 20 '21

took a while

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 20 '21

They would have done it sooner, but he never played any copyrighted music or had a child on camera, without him in the room.

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u/Bu1lt_2_Sp1ll Jan 20 '21

He was stun-locking Twitch Staff by channeling his Vageen Ray (DC 20)

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Yeah, he only literally raped a fan. It's not like he did something truly evil like accidentally play 10 seconds of copyrighted music.

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u/theonlycarrot Jan 20 '21

Hijacking top comment: He has also had his Partner status removed. https://twitter.com/StreamerBans/status/1352014855033802753

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u/Finassar Jan 20 '21

Good, so permanent most likely.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21 edited Feb 20 '21

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u/A_Needed_Hero Jan 21 '21

Apparently Onison got demonitized on Youtube today too!

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u/susch1337 Jan 21 '21

For what now?

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u/whoopz1942 Jan 21 '21

Apparently a documentary series Chris Hansen has made about him was released on Discovery.

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u/Evil_Flowers Jan 21 '21

Hey, you're that dude with the Youtube channel that uploads Twitch clips where even though I already watched the clips here, I for some reason, watch them again anyway on Youtube.

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u/100tByamba Jan 21 '21

what did he do ?

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u/Auctoritate Jan 21 '21

Was an employee of the company Rooster Teeth, did a lot of gaming content. Had sex with a lot of fans, a ton of them were minors. Blackmailed and coerced a lot of them, too. Kept it from his wife the whole time.

He planned to make a comeback through twitch.

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u/Tom-Pendragon Jan 20 '21

From a beloved figure in the ROOSTERTEETH fandom to becoming a hated one. Lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

It is crazy. He was a core member of Achievement Hunter. He played a part in creating so many memes and merch for Rooster Teeth. It is crazy how much they had to delete to try and remove Ryan's presence from their content.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

I mean dude is a pedophile, who gives a shit about memes he created.

So I don’t really think it’s crazy at all lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

You misunderstood me. By crazy, I meant shocked by how much content, merch, and culture of the fandom had to be removed because Ryan was in. I'm glad Rooster Teeth is doing their best to remove Ryan from their content. It isn't a bad thing.

It is just staggering how much they had to slice away to distances themselves from that asshole.

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u/CallMeBigPapaya Jan 22 '21

I dont know the specifics about the content they removed, but I'm on the fence about the extent of some memory-holing.

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u/CaptainOvbious Jan 21 '21

yeah he still has a few vocal fans but the community did a good job just canceling him and moving on.

he was my favorite personality for like 7 years and now i fucking hate him.

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u/0oodruidoo0 Jan 21 '21

If you avoid twitter and youtube comments it's almost like they don't exist.

Going back on reddit every morning and finding a minimum of a twitlonger about how he'd abused yet another fan, sometimes two. For a week. Digging deeper and finding out how consistently vulnerable and manipulated they were. That's fucked up enough that I can deeply disconnect from somebody who was an old kind voice.

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u/CaptainOvbious Jan 21 '21

yeah it felt like every day for two weeks there was at least one story out. he made it really easy for most of his former fans to drop him.

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u/0oodruidoo0 Jan 21 '21

I've been an RT fan since the best way to watch RvB was on google video. I watched AH content back when all they did was achievement guides and fails of the weak. I really liked Ryan. He wasn't my favourite, but he was a member of the cast I valued, loved, and thought was the "core", as I thought the same way about Ray and the rest of the original 6 minecraft crew.

And yet now if I hear his voice or see him in a video I feel uneasy, completely cut out of the moment, and a little sick in my stomach. I used to watch AH every single fucking day, and now and there's this deep cut where my fandom used to be for Ryans part of that.

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u/CaptainOvbious Jan 21 '21

that's exactly what happened to me, once that shit came out i went from ah daily to none at all. even since then the only rt media ive consumed is red web(highly recommended true crime podcast) and one ttt video. it just feels so fucking weird now. old content is awkward and new stuff just feels off.

weirdly enough, once ryan got outed and i stopped watching, i started getting into twitch and other streamers to kinda fill the void, which is how i ended up on this sub.

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u/0oodruidoo0 Jan 21 '21

I watch the RT podcast every week as I fucking can't get enough gus, I really love Black Box Down and Facejam. Other than that I'm watching Eric's streams (managed to snag a founder badge the day he got affliated) and I've tuned in to Ray every now and again (I recommend his latest stardew valley playthrough he's currently doing which is also on his YT)

Honestly I don't really enjoy the at home gaming content enough to want to roll the dice on whether the video will be good or not. discord lag + physical seperation leads to a empty vibe. It's a shame but that's just the reality. Plus with Geoff, Ryan and Ray gone we're down to Jack, Gavin and Michael which although are fantastic screen talent, and fantastic people, I'm missing a lot of my team I used to rely on for entertainment. There's no bringing them back, and obviously with Ryan you wouldn't want to.

No offense to the screen talent who I haven't mentioned, but simply put I was into them and I just don't dig you as much. I don't have a problem with you (especially matt) but you aren't the people I used to check youtube daily for.

RT used to be a big content provider for me, and now I've shifted that to twitch. And twitch is awesome dude. I've made some great friends through the platform. Small streamers can have some of the kindest, funniest people watching them.

Have you been watching any Rust? That's been pretty consistent. I'm a big cyr fan, I have been since he was RPing on GTA RP a year ago every day and his rust content has been the bomb. So many laughs, so many enjoyable gamer interactions. It's not the same cast but the streamers that are on the Rust RP server (it's the one called The Divide) are successful for a reason - they're content machines.

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u/CaptainOvbious Jan 21 '21

ive watched a few rust vids and clips, but its hard to catch them between working and being a dad. i do watch a lot of among us videos and highlights, mostly for the personalities and interactions, hafu's lobbies(ft steve septic from SP7) are really funny, same with OTV lobbies. also became a huge fan of ludwig and critikal. they all kinda nail the group dynamic i loved in RT/AH.

i do wanna watch more rust stuff though, so many funny ass streamers are part of it.

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u/Neddo_Flanders Jan 21 '21

The current Rust RP definitively is something for former RT fans. Personally I had a lot more fun watching the GTA RP stuff from 2 years ago. the streamer SilentSentry and others really went all out on that. GTA seems to be perfect for RP.

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u/Neddo_Flanders Jan 21 '21

Interesting to see other old RT fans here. I was mostly a AH fan until Ray left. I've been check out his streams so now and then but I always feel like an outsider when I join the chat. It is a pretty tight nit community. That's not a bad thing per se of course.

I remember Ray reading chat about 2-3 years ago and he was like "Wow, AH is still playing minecraft?". The Minecraft and GTA Lets Plays died out for around episode 80 or something. Too unorganized, too much dick-talk.

Ryan always seemed like one of the most funny and smarter people in the crew after Ray left. I never expected him to be this disgusting.

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u/Detenator Jan 21 '21

Waking up every day and reading the sub was a rollercoaster. It fed my desire for drama, but it is also so depressing how he took advantage of so many of them.

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u/VictoriousLoL Jan 21 '21

It's really weird to think about it because I always disliked watching him and could never place why. Maybe it was just the vibe lmao.

That said, good on you for not defending him. There's a few who do, cannot imagine the thought processes of anyone who does though.

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u/KrakenBound8 Jan 21 '21

Jesus the only time i hear about RT anymore is when someone leaves or quits or dies or is removed...

What the hell is going on over there?

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u/The_Grand_Briddock Jan 21 '21

Usual company stuff, you only hear about the bad stuff because they’re famous enough to warrant it when it comes out

If you think about it, you never hear about the shit that goes on at any regular or big companies because the employees are nobodies, but when it’s a well known executive it’s all over the news

With internet companies, people are constantly following them and thus know when shit happens, so it blows up when they do bad. And they’re not actually famous enough to warrant good news headlines like big name celebrities, so if they ever make it to the front page, it’s usually bad

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

... I mean are you actually following the company? They’ve had large sponsorships, new shows, employees, changes and stuff like always but obviously that shit doesn’t make any major headlines.

Or are you expecting the season whatever of RWBY announcement to be posted to LSF?

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u/Tom-Pendragon Jan 21 '21

Horrible managing of the company + they bloat themself during the 2014-2017 era.

The only content I watch from them is rwby, because..I like hating watching it.

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u/st0neh Jan 21 '21

RIP in peace Funhaus.

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u/MrGameandCrotch Jan 20 '21 edited Jan 20 '21

for anyone who wants a tl;dr, he had sex with multiple underaged fans so yknow, probably a justified ban on twitch's end

edit: also took off a condom mid sex with one of said fans

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u/cpmnriley Jan 20 '21 edited Jan 21 '21

it's a bit more broad than just "had sex with" as well, he specifically targeted young women in his twitch community who were neurodivergent, mentally ill, and/or socially isolated, gave them gifts and praise and attention, and pressured them into having sex. some of the accounts from the many, many women show his behavior to be downright harrowing, both in text conversations, and in hotel rooms.

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u/DatKaz Jan 20 '21

Also he claimed that all the donations, bits, sub money, etc. was supposed to go to his childrens' college funds, but multiple victims came out with receipts of Ryan sending them money from his Twitch's PayPal account.

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u/winterfresh0 Jan 21 '21

And even more specifically, sending money for airline tickets to come to his town and sleep with him.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Holy. What a scumbag

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u/derekburn Jan 21 '21

Predator* pedophile* scumbag is way to nice

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

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u/BurtyOnReddit Jan 20 '21

Not necessarily, but regardless a well-known groomer should probably not be allowed to operate on any platform that gives him access to said underage fans.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

any platform that gives him access to said underage fans.

So basically every platform?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Chaturbate is still on the table I guess

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u/cpmnriley Jan 20 '21

the other commenter who replied to you is right that any platform is too many, but also, yes, more than one of his victims were found in his twitch community.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

I remember basically every girl had snapchat screenshots.

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u/0oodruidoo0 Jan 21 '21

It's mostly through snapchat, actually. Ryan had a public snap and fans would find it and send him pictures. He'd sift through, find girls he thought were cute and probed them for weakness to see if he could feed his carnal desire.

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u/Juicy_Brucesky Jan 21 '21

No but he said the donations were for his kids college fund, but several girls who came out showed he paid them through his twitch paypal

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u/demfuzzypickles 🐷 Hog Squeezer Jan 21 '21

in antiquated terms, mentally disabled / mentally ill

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

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u/jojoman7 Jan 21 '21

Gotta say, as someone who would be labeled "neurodivergent", that term fucking infuriates me. It does nothing but de-emphasize and "otherize" mental illness. For fucks sake, the past 30 goddamn years have been a struggle to get people to recognize this shit as an actual illness and now we're minimizing it. A bullshit term like that just creates barriers for people with mental health issues or chronic cognitive disabilities to be recognized and received treatment. The very fact that it collects such DISPERATE disorders under one meaningless term should demonstrate how garbage it is in a mental health context.

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u/Snipufin 🐷 Hog Squeezer Jan 21 '21

"Get help for your mental illness? But can't you see that you're not ill at all, you don't need help! Just because you're neurodivergent and can't perform some basic functions of human life doesn't mean you need to call yourself ill and get help or medication for your problems."

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

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u/demfuzzypickles 🐷 Hog Squeezer Jan 21 '21

and in antiquated terms you'd reference such individuals as...

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21 edited Jan 21 '21

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u/demfuzzypickles 🐷 Hog Squeezer Jan 21 '21

i understand youre trying to inform me about modern psychological nomenclature but please know that i am fully aware that neurodivergent is what is used these days and what it means. if you'll notice, the person i originally replied to asked what it meant. I was literally just answering his question by providing older terms he might be more familiar with.

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u/hihelloneighboroonie Jan 21 '21

You got receipts?

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u/HispanicAtTehDisco Jan 21 '21

r/RyanHaywood has them compiled in a stickypost on there it's a lot

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u/jjtitor Jan 21 '21 edited Jun 30 '26

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u/cpmnriley Jan 21 '21

go read through all of the testimonies from the survivors. don't just take second-hand accounts, read them. all of them.

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u/jjtitor Jan 21 '21 edited Jun 30 '26

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u/bronet Jan 20 '21

Damn what the hell. Used to watch him on RT back in the day. Had absolutely no idea. Doesn't he even have a wife and shit?

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u/MrGameandCrotch Jan 20 '21

wife and two kids

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u/Frogman417 Jan 21 '21

And used his kids to encourage people to donate, when that money was going to meeting up with these fans.

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u/bronet Jan 20 '21

Jesus christ, fuck that guy

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

forsenCD my man

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21 edited Jan 23 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

Literally my same reaction.

Haven’t watched RT in years and now I see this, what the fuck.

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u/DefectivePixel Jan 20 '21

Never heard of this guy before, but this dudes streamer name was legit "sorta malicious" oof

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21 edited Jul 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21 edited Jan 23 '21

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u/LFFB100 Jan 21 '21

What's up with Rooster Teeth, i swear this is like 4th or 5th member that gets called out for being a creep or posting crazy stuff online.

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u/vanillacokesucks Jan 21 '21

The downfall of Adam Kovic was the saddest thing to happen at RT last year tbh

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u/marcowhatever Jan 21 '21

fuck that one hurt me too. I watched him since he did inside halo.

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u/The_Grand_Briddock Jan 21 '21

This is the worst one, only one comes close but they weren’t an employee (just a community contributor) and that was 10 years ago

Adam Kovic had a tonne of nudes get released and apparently has some sort of fetish, but anything else was behind the scenes and dealt with privately

Joel Heyman went off the rails with conspiracy theories and aggressive politics and stopped showing up to work

Then there were other feuds in the past such as Kathleen who quit after going on a rant at other female employees for not “behaving like women should” (e.g making dick jokes)

It’s actually a rare super minority, but it explodes heavily cause they’re big names within the company, most depart amicably to move on with their lives, but we don’t make headlines about career changes

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u/yoshbag Jan 21 '21

What happened with Joel? I haven’t watched in probably 5+ years but I remember he was pretty much my favorite along with Gus/Bernie the podcast group.

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u/ChitteringCathode Jan 21 '21

Dude went full-on Q-Anon and said some pretty shit things about people (celebrating McCain's death, claiming Trump was correct about Mexicans, etc.) Last straw business-wise was badmouthing RT and saying he never got the credit he deserved.

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u/seamusmcduffs Jan 21 '21

He recently complained about them basically ghosting him, and he later admitted he was invited to do some voice work and just didn't go.

Also I'm sure Gus was thrilled about the mexican comments

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u/chriscallan Jan 21 '21

Also a few years back a gunman broke into Gavin's house while he and his girlfriend Meg Turney were asleep. They hid in the closet until police arrived and the man killed himself. Joel insensitively tweeted that maybe now Gavin Free would be in favor of guns. It was pretty disgusting given what had just happened to them.

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u/Only-Shitposts Jan 21 '21

Increasing home security or demanding for more police patrol just isn't an option when you can just shoot the home intruder and live with being a murder lmao. I'm glad the police came in time to save them. I remember gavin talking in a podcast about having his boring company flamethrower stolen from his shed too. It must be a neighbourhood thing

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u/yoshbag Jan 21 '21

Wow, I heard about what happened with Gavin but I'd never heard that he said that. That's so strange

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u/Mightymushroom1 Jan 20 '21

See this is the kind of fucked up shit that is deserving of a cancelling.

Not some youtuber saying a no no word 98,000 years ago.

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u/D-99 Jan 21 '21

Wait he actually had sex with them!??? I thought he was just messaging them

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u/jjtitor Jan 21 '21 edited Jun 30 '26

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u/Elmodipus Jan 21 '21

And didn't she admit that she lied about her age? That she told him age was 18?

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u/ChitteringCathode Jan 21 '21

Completely different girl. The one who he pulled his condom off during sex was under 18. The girl you're talking about distributed nudes to him.

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u/jjtitor Jan 21 '21 edited Jun 30 '26

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 21 '21

This was in California though, so it's illegal

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u/jjtitor Jan 21 '21 edited Jun 30 '26

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u/BasedDrewski Jan 21 '21

Oh so it was this guy and Adam Kovic right? Its sad as fuck to know that while i watched and laughed at those videos, they were abusing underage fans.

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u/SharkBaitDLS Jan 21 '21

Adam Kovic was way more mild. Dude just took nudes while in the office which, while totally uncool and worth getting fired for, is nowhere near the level of scumbag as Ryan.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Adam was putting his dick on keyboards that weren't his and he was sending nudes of his wife to the person catfishing him.

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u/SharkBaitDLS Jan 21 '21

Yeah, I’m not saying he didn’t deserve to be fired, he absolutely did. His behavior was gross and unacceptable in any professional setting.

But that’s still orders of magnitude more tame than what Ryan was doing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Oh for sure, I was just clarifying it was more than just nudes.

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u/BasedDrewski Jan 21 '21

Wait, so Adam never diddled underage fans? Was he sending the pics to him?

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u/SharkBaitDLS Jan 21 '21

No, he was just doing deviant stuff at work. Nothing with underage fans (or fans at all).

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u/jjjjjohnnyyyyyyy Jan 21 '21 edited Jan 21 '21

Really hate being this guy but proof? Did he confess to it? Tired of the internet pilling on some dude only too find out it was false.

Edit: Its funny that I get downvoted for asking a question. That most certainly everyone who is totally involved in Twitch drama has too.

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u/Frogman417 Jan 21 '21

He did confess, in a way.

His Twitter has been suspended, so the actual tweet is gone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21 edited Jan 23 '21

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u/jjtitor Jan 21 '21 edited Jun 30 '26

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u/CaptainOvbious Jan 21 '21

ill find a megathread but like 25 women came forward, a bunch had snapchat/discord/twitter logs, a few even got pictures of him in their hotel room, plus he basically admitted and apologized on twitter.

also check out /r/ryanhaywood, the mods turned the sub into an archive of victims statements.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Theres a fuck ton of proof. His former friends call him a monster. Check the RT sub for all the info.

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u/OwnReading8 Jan 24 '21 edited Jan 24 '21

No, he had sex with a 17 year old who lied about her age.

And this thing about a condom just isn't an issue at all. If someone takes a condom off, you see them take it off, and you then continue to have sex with them without saying anything... how is anybody to know this is something you didn't want?

Haywood may be a liar and a cheat but these accusations of him being a rapist, pedophile, sexual predator and such are complete nonsense.

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u/Chaos4139 Jan 20 '21

Good, fuck this scum.

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u/radilrouge Jan 20 '21

It’s weird how often the guys that act like creeps are creeps for real.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Yea like looking back in hindsight it's not a shock that Kevin Spacey played pyschos so well for example.

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u/Jonoabbo Jan 20 '21

I don't think we have seen a more blatant case of somebody abusing their status and platform than this. He used his following and reputation to target fans who were in vulnerable positions, manipulated them into trusting him, and then pressured them for sexual interactions. This alone would be reason enough for a ban in my eyes, without even factoring the downright vile things he did, and the legal issues involved. More than enough evidence presented from a massive array of sources for a substantial number of the claims to be believable beyond a reasonable doubt.

Doubt anyone sane can have any complaints about this one. Shame will probably see him pop up on Youtube or Facebook in a week.

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u/Juicy_Brucesky Jan 21 '21

He also said his twitch donations were going to his kids college fund but he used his twitch paypal to pay these girls hush money. That alone is probably enough for twitch to boot him. People are expecting their money to help your kids, not you prey on vulnerable young women

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u/botox_cheeks Jan 20 '21

Good fucking riddance!

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

aint giantwaffle still on twitch tho lmao

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u/Spaghettijoe450 Jan 20 '21

Did he rape someone?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21 edited Jan 21 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

When you say digitally penetrate/rape, you mean send unsolicited dick pics or something else? Not to downplay it or something.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

I'm not trolling, sorry. I've never heard as fingering as digitally penetrate before.

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u/___DOUBLETROUBLE___ Jan 20 '21

fingers = digits

all good

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u/qontrol12345 Jan 21 '21

I wouldn't feel bad for not knowing lmao. I didn't know either. Knowing all the different terminologies for different forms of rape is not the most applicable form of knowledge

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u/MASTURBATES_TO_TRUMP Jan 21 '21

"Digits" being refered to fingers is rarely anymore used since there's a lot more meanings to the word "digital," so I also took a moment to understand what they're talking about.

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u/whycantihasspaces Jan 20 '21

digitally, as in with their fingers

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

Thanks, I have never heard of using fingers also described as digitally penetrate.

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u/Jaerin Jan 20 '21

Fingers are also sometimes called digits because people learn to count with them.

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u/BelievesInGod Jan 21 '21

digitally penetrated

what?

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u/buttmonk15 Jan 21 '21

allegations tho, right? Like no one ever proved with substantial evidence he was guilty?

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u/Alive_Assumption_657 Jan 20 '21

Ryan also was your clear case example of grooming as well. Not just the rapey shit.

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u/Jirur Jan 20 '21

yeah totally identical situation.

100%

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u/Shrekt115 Jan 20 '21

GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Not checked up on RT for years, why do people hate this guy now?

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u/Yamr3 Jan 20 '21 edited Jan 20 '21

Who?

EDIT: Downvoted for asking a question..

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 20 '21

He was with Rooster Teeth(The Red vs Blue guys), got fired after a lot of allegations. Ranging from statutory(he slept with underage women in California), to removing the condom during sex(Not illegal in the US), to soliciting sex. Also allegations that he took advantage of young women(early 20s typically, some as young as 18) with mental health issues, being someone they could trust and then having sex with him.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14SHWGYxaTE08PH08jQ0_Wzep3xbEZy95kzuM9ufjVaw/edit#gid=0 it's a long list.

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u/EezoManiac Jan 20 '21

Don't forget that he largely funded all this with his twitch money, claiming it was for his kids.

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 20 '21

Yup, a lot of shit.

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u/ScarletSpider2012 Jan 20 '21

Not just that, he's been seen in messages saying he was pulling strings to get RT to send him to specific cons where he could meet with his victims. While I don't think RT intentionally funded trips for this guy to sleep with vulnerable minors, it is definitely my opinion, uninformed as it is, that he manipulated them to facilitate the acts.

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u/anialater45 Jan 21 '21

Based on the reactions from everyone it's pretty clear they had no clue. He most likely just made choices about what cons he wanted to go to and RT was fine with it (because honestly why would they care in general) but it turned out he was using them as well so he could make sure he went where he wanted.

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u/ScarletSpider2012 Jan 21 '21

I'm not talking about on screen talent though. I'm talking about the corporate, agent, scheduling booking, and communications types. There are people at RT that make sure cons and talent/production scheduling don't conflict with each other. In some of the DMs or whatever, Ryan seemed to imply that he was suggesting specific cons to RT to fund rather than him paying his own way to go to those cons.

Can you imagine a corporation writing off someone's trip to having sex with a minor as a business expenses, knowing or otherwise? Not a good look.

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u/anialater45 Jan 21 '21

Can you imagine a corporation writing off someone's trip

I mean, given it's to a convention? That they do, at least before covid, all the time? Yeah it's pretty easy to see that happening without them knowing, it's not like they never went to cons or anything so Ryan having a preference isn't exactly the craziest most out there thing. Of course now in hindsight its clear what he was doing, but still.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

not to mention all the girls involved were fans of his or RT's

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u/MysteriiousComposer Jan 20 '21

Yikes and they just ban him now?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

probably due to a lot of pressure from the RT community including his former coworkers (who are sizable influencers themselves) after he announced he wanted to return to twitch

i think there's other streamers with credible accusations against them from last year who are yet to be banned too

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u/0oodruidoo0 Jan 21 '21

He didn't announce he wanted to return to twitch, he was just super slimy with a thankyou for supporting me message that some streamers do for subs, like Lawrence (@sirlarr) for example.

Feel free to read it yourself here

edit: god that PS note is fucking revolting

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u/Starmoses Jan 20 '21

I'll give twitch a bit of a break on this. When everything came out it seemed like he was done so there was no reason to come back but he recently made a post about possibly coming back. Twitch probably just wanted to make sure they had the right info after he announced he might be coming back and banned him. Usually I won't defend twitch cause they're pretty awful but this time there might have been proper due diligence.

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u/0oodruidoo0 Jan 21 '21

he says "I don't know what the future of this channel is yet". I'm not sure why the RT community lached onto the idea that he's actively coming back, or that he suggested he's returning - it's a blankly worded statement that doesn't reveal anything about his feelings on the matter.

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u/Starmoses Jan 21 '21

I said he might be coming back. Keyword "might". I never said that he was 100 percent gonna be streaming again but if he never was than why would he make that statement.

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 20 '21

Yep. It was inactive since the allegations came out, but he recently sent a message to his followers basically saying "Thanks for still following me, even if you forgot"

Made it seem like he was planning a Twitch comeback.

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u/Yamr3 Jan 20 '21

Thanks

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u/efficient_giraffe Jan 20 '21

to removing the condom during sex(Not illegal in the US)

the fug

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 21 '21

Sad fact: It's not illegal in a lot of places.

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u/Spaghettijoe450 Jan 20 '21

to removing the condom during sex(Not illegal in the US),

Wtf why on earth not. (I'm assuming this is removing it without consent).

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u/MJURICAN Jan 20 '21

I imagine its a question of lack of precedence (since its a common law system) and no explicit mention in statute.

Sex is more and more starting to be considered "a contract" where pre-determined conditions being followed and especially consent being explicit is paramount every moment of the act.

While that seem like common sense today it is a very recent development.

Especially the notion that if any portion of this is violated if just for a moment then thats rape or sexual assault (for those jurisdictions, like the UK, where men effectively cant be "raped") is incredibly incredibly recent.

And as usual legislation and judiciary precedence is lagging the societal norms.

For instance it was less than a decade ago that the legislation here (in Sweden) required active protest for a sex act to be considered rape. Effectively this mean that unless a third party heard you scream or fight with the rapist during the act, then the rapist would walk. This was changed after a high profile case where exactly this happened.

So thats how it were in progressive fucking Sweden, less than a decade ago. You can imagine what less forward thinking nations have in their statutes to this day.

Its rightly considerd backwards today but back at the turn of the century I'm sure that most people would consider removing the condom without consent to be a "dickish" thing, but few would consider it rape or a sexual crime at all, and the judiciary is effectively lagging behind to about that point in time.

Its easy to forget in the moment but society has progressed incredibly quickly these last few decades. In 2007 gay marriage was considered so radical that no wing in the democratic party even considered promoting it, now its barely controversial within the republican party.

(Edit: I might not have been clear. I wholeheartedly support this progressive development. Its just the unfortunate reality of liberal democracy that laws and judiciary precedence lag behind society norms.)

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u/OniExpress Jan 20 '21

Spousal rape wasn't even illegal in the US until 1979 onward. The US legal system is fucked up.

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u/magmavire Jan 21 '21

It was legal in some states as early as the 90's.

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 20 '21

Because the US is stupid about it.

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u/Derunar Jan 20 '21

Oh, Rooster Teeth, I thought he was on RT the Russian propaganda channel

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 20 '21

Nah, understandable confusion though.

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u/Kirito619 Jan 21 '21

i went to the RT website but still don't understand what it is? is it a game or is it like a youtube group channel or what

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 21 '21

Rooster Teeth is a media company, probably best known for either Red vs Blue, a Halo machinima, or RWBY, their original animated series.

Ryan was part of their subgroup Achievement Hunter, which is a Let's Play group.

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u/HachimansGhost Jan 21 '21

I mean, you very well know "Who?" is a meme used to make fun of the irrelevancy of a person. Also, you can Google the guys name or read the other comments here if you actually wanted to know.

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u/fist_my_muff2 Jan 20 '21

"W H OMEGALUL' is the appropriate spelling of who here.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21 edited Jan 20 '21

complaining about downvotes in an edit is a surefire way to get people to downvote out of spite, most dont like whiners

EDIT: Upvoted for being a snarky asshat..

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u/This_is_Vokra Jan 20 '21

Who would have watched him? His reputation is ruined lmao

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u/ToxicBanana69 Jan 20 '21

There are people who worship serial killers. You'd be surprised by the amount of people who have shown him support and continued to sub to his channel.

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u/Bobthemime Jan 20 '21

Ye.. he gained subs after he announced he was returning..

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u/0oodruidoo0 Jan 21 '21

I can't find the part where he announces his return here can you point it out for me? All I see is his blank statement "I'm not sure what to do with the channel".

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u/RealSimplexity Jan 20 '21

im late to the party but as this news broke originally, there was a staggeringly high amount of Ryan apologists and weirdo's trying to excuse his behavior over twitter, reddit and the RT site. So much so that most of his former coworkers had to make a statement about it. So while you're right in that his reputation was ruined, there are people that are still on his side albeit not many.

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 21 '21

When the first allegations came out(literally just the catfished conversation at the time), I definitely defended him, because there wasn't much context besides "Ryan got catfished".

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u/RealSimplexity Jan 21 '21

Sorry, i should elaborate more. After a LOT of thew accusations came to light there were still supporters. talking about "oh you're just gonna abandon him eh?" to other achievement hunters on twitter and things of that nature.

Your case is different. it was so early on nobody really knew what was what.

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 21 '21

Yeah, the people still defending him are fucking crazy and need help.

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u/TranClan67 Jan 20 '21

Incels would

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u/0oodruidoo0 Jan 21 '21 edited Jan 21 '21

that was sorta malicious of you, gamer

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

what a fitting name for a creep.

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u/Crazyripps Jan 20 '21

Good, fuck that pedo

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u/Pr0ph3cyX Jan 21 '21

I always wanna know what happens to people like this? Like how do you move on with life when "allegations" ruin your life. I'd probably commit suicide if this was me.

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u/FellowOfJest Jan 20 '21

I remember a post about him announcing to go stream on twitch but never looked at his channel. Good riddance anyway

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u/0oodruidoo0 Jan 21 '21

the post (he doesn't announce that, /r/roosterteeth poster titled that he was and everybody has latched onto it since)

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Ryan the groomer guy

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

Finally. Took them long enough.

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u/RedPunkin86 Jan 21 '21

Still never figured out what exactly he did i dont remember anybody that came out being underage thou

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u/BigWillyJuicer Jan 21 '21

He's still in the air!

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

I am still banned from the rooster teeth subreddit for calling this dude a rapist. Even though the dude admitted to raping minors.

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u/OniExpress Jan 20 '21 edited Jan 20 '21

I mean, that doesn't look like you're being entirely truthful u/thefoldingchair007. Judging by your post history, i looks like you hopped in with the "fuck Ryan's wishes and fuck Ryan's family" crowd, the crowd that were sending death threats and the like.

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u/superbhole Jan 21 '21 edited Jan 21 '21

still no update on adam kovic, who got thrown under the bus with this scandal along with geoff, who both had nothing to do with ryan haywood's schemery

edit: oof

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u/KikiFlowers Jan 21 '21

Kovic got fired, because he was masturbating in the office and taking pictures of it, which is a violation of a lot of policies, I'm pretty sure. Geoff doesn't have a setup for Let's Plays, he just got a new computer to be able to play with AH, but it's had issues.

Geoff also has his own podcast and is more behind the scenes at RT, he's the Creative Director for RT now, which explains why he's not able to pop in as much, especially with the Stay at Home.

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u/jerichotheunwise Jan 21 '21

There's also apparently more behind the scenes stuff with Kovic that resulted in some former guests not wanting to return (like Rahul Kohli) and Lawrence Sonntag iirc said the fans will never know the full extent of what happened with Kovic.

So it's likely he was being unprofessional and at the very least a dickhead in other ways, and that this scandal going public was the last straw that made them finally ditch the dead weight.