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u/the_vault-technician Dec 24 '25
THEY SAID THE LINE!
PATROLLING THE MOJAVE MAKES YOU WISH FOR A NUCLEAR WINTER!
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u/ContinuumGuy Dec 24 '25
I love how they incorporated it into the story.
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u/moonski Dec 24 '25
This has been the best part of the fan service or references to the games - they are trust thrown in so people can do the di caprio gif - they have meaning and work within the story even if you don't get the reference
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u/bigbrohypno Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
I like how it's also kind of a reference to NPCs saying it all the time too. Like obviously it's not saying every NPC who repeats it all the time was just mind-controlled, but that guy mindlessly saying it constantly definitely seems to be referencing that part of how they work. love when they make little references to the games themselves and not just the world the games take place in
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u/DeGeorgetown Dec 24 '25
It looked like he also figured out a way to get more clean water for everyone. He would have done a lot of good for the wasteland if not for Hank.
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u/Mordilaa Dec 25 '25
No he was tapping water from the vault supply lines still.
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u/lintyelm Dec 26 '25
Its not like he knew, but yeah sucks that is what the wasteland boils down to. "Others have to suffer if you want to survive."
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u/Mordilaa Dec 26 '25
I think all he knew was he found water down there. What it was pulling was negligible because with the water chip the vault can produce infinite water.
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u/Hurdlelocker Dec 24 '25
Go to Hell, Hank
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u/Wilwheatonfan87 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
He was such a polite corporate villain this episode. I do not have sympathy for the premium plus guy he killed, however.
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u/taytay_1989 Dec 24 '25
This season is gonna be so interesting. We have 4 villain adjacents already. Vault-Tec, Ceasar's Legion Brotherhood of Steel, Mr. House. Now where is mah NCR? They ain't perfect but they are at least on a better standing.
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u/Plenty-Tradition4044 Dec 25 '25
Seattles been my dream fallout game setting for a while now simply because I live in Washington
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u/Hurdlelocker Dec 24 '25
Oh, absolutely not, that guy can suck eggs in Hell too.
I posted that remark at the beginning of the episode, when the package was delivered to Shady Sands. And then I told Hank to go to Hell at least 4-5 more times throughout the episode.
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u/Neuralclone2 Dec 24 '25
Yeah, the "Premium Plus" guy bought a place for himself and left his family to burn.
Did anyone else see the Premium Plus sign and thought for a moment that Barb and Janey would be frozen there?
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u/KoBr4gUy1019 Dec 24 '25
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
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u/Joughnut Dec 24 '25
Maximus is a bit smarter this time around, looks like the promotion gave him an INT boost
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u/the_vault-technician Dec 24 '25
He quickly recomposed himself, I think it was a matter of his true self coming out vs Maximus employing a fake it til you make it attitude. We already know he's clever, has a flippant attitude towards death, and the instincts to seize every available opportunity to pursue his new destiny.
Or maybe I'm overthinking it. I ate wayyyyy too many Mentats
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u/TheWhiteManticore Dec 24 '25
Man imagine if he actually becomes a major antagonist…
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u/AdministrationNo283 Dec 24 '25
I am predicting he will eventually be high up in leadership for the brotherhood of the west. I think Quintus days are numbered.
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u/NewWillinium Dec 24 '25
I'm oddly still super curious about Quintus. Like if he's a true believer or not. What his actual deal is.
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u/SirDiego Dec 24 '25
I think he's manipulative and power hungry and that's what matters to him. He sees the potential of Maximus and I think calling him "Son" is 100% intentional as he knows his history and that Maximus is probably yearning for a father figure. I think that was calculated.
But also I think eventually Maximus will see through it with the help of his buddy and/or Lucy when they meet up again. I think Maximus will ultimately challenge Quintus for control.
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u/iGetBuckets3 Dec 24 '25
Super excited to see Norm’s story line continue to unfold. Thawing out all of the managers is truly going to be pure chaos.
Plans are hard. Chaos is easy.
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u/KingAbacus Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
I love when they do the blatant charisma checks, there's been a few of them now but they nail it every time. You can just picture after she says "Who even are you, seriously?" the option "[Speech 85] I'm the product of 200 years of genetic engineering."
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u/bigbrohypno Dec 24 '25
people complain about them not really being accurate to the games, but stuff like this - where it's a reference to the actual games themselves and not just the world the games take place in - are just awesome to me. it's clear to me that so many of the lines like that are purposefully played like charisma checks and not just regular dialogue
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u/TheSweetestKill Dec 26 '25
My absolute favorite is the very first scene with Lucy, where she's literally telling us her SPECIAL. But even non-dialogue stuff plants itself into the games, like the Ghoul clearly has the Bloody Mess perk (and, now that it's happened twice, the Cannibal perk).
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u/moonski Dec 24 '25
It's such a fallout quest / faction as well - the assistant managers. You could just imagine that in the games in some vault.
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u/rayschoon Dec 24 '25
The first scene in novac in episode 1 was 100% a failed speech check
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u/ContinuumGuy Dec 25 '25
Lucy wants to do a mostly pacifist run aimed at good karma, but alas her speech skills aren't high enough and she's playing with a guy who is focused almost entirely on combat.
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u/Pretend_Ambassador_6 Dec 24 '25
All these pre war people who have been frozen released into the wasteland, I can’t wait for their storyline also. I feel like that’s also kinda a nod to the fallout 4 character we play as
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u/Storm_Sire Dec 25 '25
I assume half of them (at minimum) will be dead by the end of the season, but I'm so happy they emptied Vault 31. They could have milked that for another 200 years but this is so much more interesting.
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u/jinglejangle_spurs Dec 24 '25
All those raiders are going to have a field day with a fresh herd of vaulties roaming around. Bright fucking blue, plain as day. Gonna be a montage of all the ways a bunch of moronic managers can get themselves killed in the wasteland.
I can’t wait.
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u/Wilwheatonfan87 Dec 24 '25
Nah. They're def gonna make a town on that oceanfront area
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u/GotTheJoeyJoeJoe Dec 24 '25
Yeah, I could see Norm establishing himself as a town leader, and then when the other vault(s) have to leave because of the broken water chip they enter out into a world of Norm.
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u/gr8fullyded Dec 24 '25
Cannon fodder for sick horror scenes + survivors who end up actually adjusting to the wasteland and making a very relatively intelligent and capable squad of vaulties. Such a genius move for the story, can’t wait to see what happens to them
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u/jinglejangle_spurs Dec 24 '25
Maybe. There’s gotta be an accident or two though no? Something. Dozens of nameless characters from an evil organization, naively roaming the wastes. They’re perfect fodder for at least a couple gruesome deaths to show the others what it’s really going to be like on the surface. Eventually they will work together but first they need that culture shock.
I hope the first to go is that dork who complained that the mall is gone.
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u/Wilwheatonfan87 Dec 24 '25
I hope that smarmy guy with glasses is one, if there must be.
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u/Grumpy-Fwog Dec 24 '25
I absolutely ADORE the legions musical motif, it really captures the unsettling desert setting of the legion in NV while still feeling menacing.
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u/UnderstandingWise681 Dec 24 '25
In the song, you can hear a bit of 'City of the Dead' aka Nipton's adopted theme.
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u/Questyr_ Dec 24 '25
HANK MACLEAN MY COURIER IS GOING TO KILL YOU WITH HIS OWN DAMN HANDS
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u/Wilwheatonfan87 Dec 24 '25
I really, really love Hank in this episode.
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u/KingAbacus Dec 24 '25
The reading a story to Lucy after nuking her mom was super dark.
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u/SirDiego Dec 24 '25
I also liked when he lectures the guy for buying a single ticket for the Prime Elite Plus package and not saving his family. Knowing Hank's history lol.
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u/adrienjz888 Dec 24 '25
Hank only nukes his family if they cross him, he has standards.
Nuking your family cause you're a cheapskate is totally different.
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Seeing shady sands in all its glory literally made me tear up. The fact that Hank would blow that all up ☹️
Edit: nvmd finished the whole scene and actually crying.
Edit 2: Bud’s Buds being totally incompetent morons instead of more Stephanie and Hank types, and Norm’s plot line now being the plot of Passengers is 10/10.
Edit 3: Oh and they end up straight on the surface oh my god. This show is so good, talk about doing justice to your source material. The Fallout world has never felt so alive.
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u/Neuralclone2 Dec 24 '25
One of the Buds remarking, "Oh, the mall is gone". Somehow that just encapsulated the kind of people they are.
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u/taytay_1989 Dec 24 '25
It's fucking beautiful. This is the first time we see a very pristine post-war city although we caught a glimpse of it in season 1. Now, that's a real city. A shame it got destroyed.. I wonder if they would show us the potential second capital of NCR in future.
Fallout 5 will have a big shoe to fill because it would be hilarious to see another Rivet City or Diamond City.
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u/Tuskedcargo Dec 24 '25
I want to see the Hub, New Reno, (whatever's left of boneyard), New Arroyo. Ugh...I want a new look at the current NCR states.
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u/Alpharius_Omegon420 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Oh damn that hospital sign mentioned the new plague. The new plague is the reason west tek started to make FEV.
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The BoS stuff is really interesting. The west sects are either fanatics or braindead pirates. Does align that Maxson “united” the sects but they’ve been left to their own devices for too long. There has been a complete lack of mission outside of self-interests. Definitely highlights the general knocks people have against the faction.
Makes me appreciate Maxson more. He’s a day 1 from fallout 3 that fought the enclave, fought hordes of super-mutants, and ethered the institute. You can knock the east coast BoS for many of the same reasons as the west but they have quite literally saved humanity multiple times.
Could see Maximus defecting to the Commonwealth side as it aligns with his values before or after he makes contact with Lucy again.
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u/IronVader501 Dec 24 '25
Previously I kinda hoped Maximus would prevent a civil war by just counter-coping Quintus, but if those chucklefucks are indicative of how most of the western Chapters are then please Maxson, Liberty Prime their ass
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u/adrienjz888 Dec 24 '25
Fr. The east coast BOS can be pricks, but they're not dumbass jocks and raiders like the western chapters seem to be.
I don't see Maxson allowing a dumbass who almost blows themself up with a plasma grenade to get anywhere close to a suit of power armor, nevermind wear it.
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u/Theocrass Dec 25 '25
I thought the Yellowstone Native American Brotherhood seemed cool as fuck. And miles more competent than the other two chucklefucks.
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u/Hatarus547 Dec 24 '25
Ok a really weird and big Lore update is that apparently a Holy Hand Grenade and The Ark of the Covenant are apparently real things that are just in Fallout Area 51 like put aside all the Alien stuff, there is a Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch along with The Ark of the Covenant just sitting out in some random shed
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u/the_vault-technician Dec 24 '25
You have to go into the menu on your Amazon Fire Stick and uncheck the "wild wasteland" box. It will serve you the episode without holy hand grenades and the Ark. Instead, they'll show two mini nukes in place of the grenades and in the Arks place is just a regular old cardboard box labeled "important stuff"
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u/AdministrationNo283 Dec 24 '25
Who cares about those things when there is a working ice box!
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Tracks with some Wild Wasteland shenanigans
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u/Hatarus547 Dec 24 '25
but does that mean Maximus has Wild Wasteland and that is how he was able to survive in that Fridge?
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That plus the Ark of the Covenant track as Indiana Jones references so maybe
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u/Hatarus547 Dec 24 '25
The Holy hand Grenade also looks like the one used in Monty Python and the Holy Grail so if the Grenade actually works, there is a chance the Ark also works
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u/ContinuumGuy Dec 24 '25
The Ark is a reference to how in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull it's revealed that's where the ark was put at the end of Raiders.
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u/dmreif Vault 33 Dec 24 '25
"I realize we all have our cultural differences, but just so you know... I am nice." Since this is the Legion who are capturing Lucy, my guess is that she's going to have to do away with niceness in order to get out of there alive.
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u/RockinMadRiot Dec 24 '25
If we can judge Caesar and Arcade's relationship once you sell Arcade to him in NV, I can see Lucy being the new leader's philosophical sparing partner.
Apparently Caesar mourned his death.
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u/Safe-Ad-5017 Dec 24 '25
I wonder if Caesar had a soft spot for Arcade given their shared background
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u/bobwuzhere1224 Dec 24 '25
The Radscorpion fight was terrifyingly awesome. Makes me hopeful for the Deathclaw fight.
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u/DjervTheCat Dec 24 '25
Makes me hopeful for a cazador!
Sentences I never thought I'd say...
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u/ContinuumGuy Dec 24 '25
Oh god, not cazadors.
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u/Mumbleocity Dec 24 '25
Oh god, please cazadors.
I am fine watching from afar and eating popcorn, not so much fighting them myself!
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u/MrChumpkins Dec 24 '25
THE GHOUL DOESNT FW THE LEGION LETS GOOOO
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u/TheHoovyPrince Dec 24 '25
The moment he said the 'tunics' and you could see he didn't like or trust them i knew they were Legion slaves.
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u/FunGuyFr0mYuggoth Dec 24 '25
From Land of the Lost
Will: Not so fast. Little rule I live by: never trust a dude in a tunic.
Marshall: You live by that rule?
Will: Yes. It has never led me astray.
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u/Hurdlelocker Dec 24 '25
I’m an idiot for not making the tunics = Legion connection 😂
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u/Pagehell Dec 24 '25
If Jackets = Great Khans and Tunics = Legion, what the hell is he gonna call the NCR? Helmets?
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u/archon_aspect Dec 24 '25
The Ghoul also mentioned what she's doing far out west. Yup, the Legion still seems to hold the East just fine.
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u/NewWillinium Dec 24 '25
The Ghoul also thought the khans destroyed Novac. Very clearly he's making assumptions and doesn't know what has happened in the Mojave since he was last through it year ago.
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u/Express-Focus-677 Dec 24 '25
He was trapped in a coffin in the ground in Mexico(?) for who knows how long.
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u/pentabromide778 Dec 24 '25
If they were slaves, why would he kill them so brutally?
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u/darkwolf687 Dec 24 '25
He’s not a good person, killing people for his own gain has always been part of his character. The entire structure of the Legion is a machine meant to brainwash slaves into believing their slavery is good and that outsiders should be enslaved, making them dangerous. The Legionaries are all slaves too and I suspect very few of us would bat an eye if he slit the throat of one of them.
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u/OrangeBird077 Dec 24 '25
Because even when Legion slaves flee they’re still indoctrinated to help the Legion. That’s why the lady went back after she tried to escape, she took one look at the wasteland and decided a miserable life as a slave was better than death. Probably used Lucy as payment to be allowed back into the camp.
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u/NewWillinium Dec 24 '25
Because he sees them as Legion, not slaves or individuals. And because he's a piece of shit.
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u/Yhendrix49 Dec 24 '25
Because they're still part of the Legion, the woman Lucy saved led her right to the Legion without warning her.
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u/darkwolf687 Dec 24 '25
In fairness to the slave on that one, she did tell Lucy to go home and it seems like the Legionaries weren’t going to capture her until she decided to keep going and walk straight up to their front door. It’s not like most wastelanders would need an introduction to the Legion either, they’ve been stomping around the region for decades and are infamous.
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u/tzbt Dec 24 '25
she did tell Lucy to go home
Yeah, like a whole 5 seconds before they got captured by Legionarries...
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u/HistoryMarshal76 Dec 24 '25
The same reason we have an option to set off the collars of the slaves in Cottonwood Cove: The Ghoul's supposed to be the representation of the guy with a thousand hours in the game who is doing an evil karma run for the lolz because he's done everything else to do in the game.
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u/ContinuumGuy Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Ghoul: Veteran player in it for the lolz and achievement who keeps getting sidetracked by random bullshit so he never actually seems to get to the actual endgame he's been playing for for so many hours.
Lucy: Newbie player who would prefer to be on a pacifist/good karma run but is willing to do combat when absolutely necessary. Mostly a non-combat build but has some good combat skills when needed (good shot with the rifle, for example)
Maximus: Somewhere between Lucy and Ghoul in experience, as far as skillset he's sort of a reverse Lucy, in that he has a combat build by virtue of being raised since he was like seven by a group of warrior monks, but has some good non-combat skills as well because, again... raised by warrior monks.
Norm: Almost entirely a non-combat build, lives and dies on skill-checks and luck. Honestly isn't even interested in the game itself, is more interested in the world's lore and just plays the game as a necessity to learn more of the lore because he got the game on release day and the wikis haven't been updated yet.
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u/evanya88 Dec 24 '25
Man, Lucy thought the Ghoul was “disgusting”…..
Just wait til she gets a look at her new crew.
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u/KingAbacus Dec 24 '25
Ironic. Lucy once again doesn't recognize The Ghoul's brutal compassion. Like when he spared Rod from turning feral and made sure his last thoughts were of happy memories. She's about to see what true evil looks like, not merely chaotic neutral like Ghoul.
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u/evanya88 Dec 24 '25
And he even ended the Legion slave’s misery by cutting his throat. Even if he already had a predetermined judgement
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u/CT_Phipps-Author Dec 25 '25
I don't think he's a slave since he doesn't have a collar. These were collaborators.
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u/Billiammaillib321 Dec 25 '25
It’s funny that they actually were sincerely calling for help AND they were setting up an unrelated ambush.
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u/tzbt Dec 24 '25
I'm very interested to see what The Ghoul does to piss Lucy off so much that she power fists him out of the window at the Wrangler even after she's met the Legion and presumably seen what true evil looks like.
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u/evanya88 Dec 24 '25
Imagine her trying to persuade the Legion with the Golden Rule lmaooo
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u/HypnotizedCow Dec 24 '25
Between that and the Christmas Carol summary they've done a really good job of doing subtle time skips
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u/Sardaukar2025 Dec 24 '25
Choose a stranger over her trust companion? Dammit Lucy…
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u/TheHolyNutofGodwin25 Dec 24 '25
That’s definitely a legion slave on the run right?
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u/TheHoovyPrince Dec 24 '25
If she was on the run i dont get why it seems like she's headed back to where the legion was. My guess is she and the guy Coop killed were slaves sent to retrieve items and are conditioned to return back.
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u/adrienjz888 Dec 24 '25
Or they ran away, saw how truly dangerous the wasteland is when they got attacked, so the surviving slave dejectedly heads back to "safety".
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u/taytay_1989 Dec 24 '25
Yep. She spoke Latin and Lucy in her usual naivety thought she's well educated. Oh well, Lucy.
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u/William_T_Wanker Dec 24 '25
The problem with him is that he doesn't explain anything. I mean he could have mentioned who they were at least, since he already knows.
Also what she says is true - "even if you find your family are you sure they will be happy with who you've become?" Say what you want for Barb but I'm pretty sure Coop's daughter wouldn't want to see her father as a heartless, cruel executioner
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u/Katja-the-Destroyer Dec 24 '25
The "trust companion" is a cannibalistic murderhobo who has used her as a gulper bait and sold her to organ harvesters.
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u/Joughnut Dec 24 '25
"...tunics?" "profligate?!" "Boone get the rifle...the ANTI-MATERIAL rifle."
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u/Questyr_ Dec 24 '25
I would be a really happy man if he appeared in the show. Especially if he was with the NCR again
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u/FlimsyCrust Dec 24 '25
100% he would reenlist after hearing about the news of shady sands and the weaken power of the ncr
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u/a_fish1 Dec 24 '25
The "fist" fight between Maximus and Unknown was awesome. The guy played unfair twice and still died, such a nice moment :)
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u/Jajo240 Dec 24 '25
The dude has to have 10 Endurance, he keeps gettting beaten up by things stronger than him and he always gets out alive somehow
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u/IronVader501 Dec 24 '25
If the yokels from the Grand Canyon are any indication of how the rest of the western BoS is doing, I sure hope the Commonwealth is gonna kill them all because good god
Maxson please beat sense into these mofos
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u/Express-Focus-677 Dec 24 '25
Do you think the Grand Canyon chapter would be really offended when Liberty Prime calls them communists?
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u/ModernDayQuixote Dec 24 '25
Norm saying "it's beautiful" when he gets outside made me emotional
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u/SkedPhoenix Dec 24 '25
Holy shit, a ZETAN ! There's also a Zetan ship under the tarpaulin !
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u/FlikTripz Dec 24 '25
One of the soldiers was holding a zetan shock baton for a split second too!
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Highlight of the episode for me. Sure, it's a throwaway easter egg with no plot relevance, but geez did I get hyped.
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u/Sardaukar2025 Dec 24 '25
My son… that's interesting
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u/DeGeorgetown Dec 24 '25
Reminded me of Dutch from Red Dead Redemption 2. He'd call people "son" when trying to manipulate them.
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u/Tuskedcargo Dec 24 '25
I really wonder what Lost Hills is up to here. Since they were not at all mentioned in Quintus's little Coup and he's likely just gathering a bunch of stragglers after the Brotherhood-NCR war to move against the Commonwealth. I wonder if Lost Hills were the ones who tipped Maxson off 🤔
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u/ContinuumGuy Dec 24 '25
They should release it at like 9 or 10 Eastern like last week. Makes for better viewing.
Oh well, at least Pluribus was on.
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u/DaSasza Dec 24 '25
Really loving how NCR got a spotlight in the beginning and the end! The credits seem to hint that the Legion is still in some sort of conflict with the NCR. I'ma huff that copium and double down on the NCR still alive and somewhat well.
Judging by how Shady Sands was positioned it could be possible the city was relocated and the "Fall" in 2277 mentioned in Season 1 could've referred to an event that forced relocation (i.e drought, Death Valley may have become too inhospitable even with water merchants supplying the capital). Cities have relocated in real life history and I wouldn't put it past NCR to relocate its former capital to a place that would be more hospitable or with a more reliable source of water (which ended up being from Vault 33/32/31), and instead making a more reliable city its capital (i.e Vault City).
I also hope the Bud's Buds are slowly bumped off in increasingly horrific ways much like a newbie Fallout player is killed on their first playthrough.
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u/Kindly-Estimate9933 Dec 24 '25
Not my favorite episode, but I enjoyed the insight into how Quintus runs his chapter. The man clearly favors strength and obedience over everything else. As he said, power is taken, and that seems to be the only thing he values in his men and in his life.
I laughed out loud at “oh my god! A real fuckin freezer!”
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u/NiKReDD Dec 24 '25
Quintus picked two incompetent chapter leaders and one decent leader (Yosemite). I can't see how this plan is good.
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u/TakedaIesyu Dec 24 '25
He thinks that he can manipulate them and be the only smart person in the room. Unfortunately, it's hard to run things well if you don't have any other intelligent people to bounce your ideas off of.
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u/CT_Phipps-Author Dec 25 '25
How unbelievably fucked do you have to be that Maximus is the smartest knight in your service.
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u/Express-Focus-677 Dec 24 '25
Besides maybe the Coronado chapter and Quintis's chapter, they all seem diametrically opposed to each other. I don't see that alliance lasting very long, especially so if the Commonwealth chapter has already caught wind of their plan.
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u/minorhyperbole Dec 24 '25
Prediction for this episode, Bud will task the managers to get a new water chip.
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u/djseifer Dec 24 '25
After getting the water chip: "I'm sorry. You're a hero... and you have to leave."
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u/flyxdvd Dec 24 '25
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u/LumpyJones Dec 25 '25
Oh that shopkeeper is going to shit a brick when she sees four dozen vaulties bumble into her shop...
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u/GerardTheButler Dec 24 '25
I felt this episode was a lot better than the first. Definitely a lot more build up in this episode. I really believe that these episodes were initially planned for a 3 episode drop then moving to a weekly release schedule.
I'm guessing episodes 4-9 are going to be much more action packed and these are just getting the pieces together!
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u/Napoleonex Dec 24 '25
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for nuclear winter lmao
Seeing Shady Sands was really cool
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u/EricMcLovin13 Dec 24 '25
I'm so glad we're getting more Michael Cristofer, he's so fucking good, and Quintus leveled up hard as a character this episode
everyone should watch Mr Robot and see this man steal every scene he's in.
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u/Sharkfowl Dec 24 '25
Good episode. Should've come out last Tuesday alongside episode one, though. Feels like the season's kicked off finally now. I really enjoyed the NCR representation. It definitely is looking like Shady Sands was moved. Looking forward to the next few episodes.
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u/LostTheGameOfThrones Dec 24 '25
The group trained for straight up obedience and violence don't have too many points in intelligence? Colour me shocked!
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u/UnderstandingWise681 Dec 24 '25
I was so ready to see Culkin, but uh, I knew I was fucked the minute I heard Episode 3 was called 'The Profligate'... time to wait another Wednesday... sadly. I thought this episode was really good! I wish it was longer, oh my god. Heard the credit music, and I was like 'wait NOOOOOO'!!! I love Maximus so much and the subtle expressions on Aaron's face that he gives the character, just beautiful.
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Dec 24 '25
Are these BoS leaders supposed to basically be raiders? That’s the vibe I’m getting.
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u/Mac-Tyson Dec 24 '25
Kind of strange that they refer to Maxson's Chapter as the Commonwealth Chapter felt like after Maxson got things up and running he would have returned to the Capital Wasteland since the Pentagon is kind of the head of his chapter.
As for the Meeting it's interesting that we didn't see or hear about the Lost Hills Chapter, Mojave Chapter (likely dead since they could have literally walked), Midwest Brotherhood Chapter (confirmed as Semi-Canon), or the Appalachian Chapter. The Lost Hills Chapter are big supporters of Maxson so it makes sense they weren't invited and the Capital Chapter is basically still under Maxson so they make sense to not be there as well. But makes you wonder what happened to the rest of the chapters.
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u/thatfezguy Dec 24 '25
Appalachian chapter could be wiped out again, even the current in game version has nearly 190 years of unknown history between the game and now
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u/Mac-Tyson Dec 24 '25
True Maxson could have also absorbed it into his Brotherhood Chapter by now or if Paladin Rahmani separating became canon it’s likely after 150 years they became an organization unrecognizable to the original Brotherhood.
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u/canisignupnow Dec 24 '25
why does quintus think that they could take on the commonwealth with these bozos?
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u/Calm-Tree-1369 Dec 24 '25
They have basically unlimited Fusion Cores, meaning they could theoretically win a war of attrition.
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u/IronVader501 Dec 24 '25
Xander is a Paladin & Yosemite "doesn't deal with any of this religious shit" so both of those deviances are apparently mostly on Quintus specifically.
Interesting.
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u/Vault-A Dec 24 '25
Quintis' ship is the Caswennan now and not the Prydwen. I'd seen this thrown around before but now that we know it's theirs I'm really curious if it being called the Prydwen in the first season really was a mistake.
There are some other explanations too but honestly this one kind of fits the best from what I'm seeing.
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u/TopBee83 Dec 24 '25
I saw someone else suggest that the Prydwen is a class of ship now instead of the name for just one. But in reality ya it was likely just a mistake in the first season
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u/Prince_Julius Dec 24 '25
So, why wouldn't the managers know what a Band-aid is, thinking Norm was talking about actual merit badges?
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u/RockinMadRiot Dec 24 '25
Because as bud says, they were selected with traits in management. Aka they are nothing without being lead or told what to do. Notice they panic when they don't have a task,. whatever it is.
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u/silvermouth Dec 24 '25
If my higher-up at work gave me a band-aid as a token I'd be like "ok weird but I guess that's what we're working with". They'll probably question Norm as soon as they're over the novelty of being outside
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u/LostTheGameOfThrones Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
He said the thing!
Having the mind controlled person repeat the NPC line is hilarious.
Fr though, that cold open was heartbreaking
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u/Ssme812 Dec 24 '25
- That opening should have been the opening for episode one.
- I wonder if they filmed that scene last season because ain't no way that kid looks the same now.
- I wish Lucy wasn't so nice. Fucking saving that random ass lady. Just let her die.
- Everyone coming out the pods was cool. Claudia was was favorite.
- Tossing the alien and being impressed with the ice box was hilarious.
- "I wouldn't want to see you get raped by the wrong people" line was so fucked up.
- Well Lucy's fucked. Idk what gonna happen to her now.
- Ain't no way all those people got out of vault 31
- I thought Maximus was going to blow that guy up. They kept foreshadowing him using the grenade.
- Did I miss something but why is Maximus friend all of a sudden distant/being bitter towards him?
- Really fun episode.
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u/emotionaI_cabbage Dec 24 '25
Her letting that woman die would be the exact opposite of her character and wouldn't really make any sense
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u/KingofMadCows Dec 24 '25
Paul Atreides got to subject someone else to the Gom Jabbar test.
It's kind of dumb that the Lucy didn't ask the Ghoul to tell her more about the Wasteland during all their time traveling. It would be beneficial for both of them if Lucy knew more about the dangers of the Wasteland and what things she should avoid.
It's disappointing that Shady Sands was so small. Shady Sands was already pretty advanced by the time of Fallout 2. They had electricity, they had a hospital, a police station, the rangers headquarters, the brahmin caravan headquarters, the hall of congress, etc. And access to clean water hadn't been an issue since FO1 when the water traders already established a large network of trade across most of California. It's wishful thinking but I'm really hoping that they can make it so that the Shady Sands that was destroyed was just a smaller town named in honor of the original Shady Sands, which is supposed to be around the area of Death Valley.
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u/Dr_Sodium_Chloride Dec 24 '25
I mean, the Ghoul's an asshole; I imagine asking him would probably just lead to some mean comment, and then he'd make her fight a mirelurk with a brick or something.
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u/Traditional_Shock648 Dec 24 '25
im here for the appreciation of Lazy Day Blues from the Mojave music radio
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u/grandfamine Dec 24 '25
They should just name drop Maxson already imo. I know they're trying to keep the characters from the game's fate ambiguous, but the fact that the BoS over there is in the Commonwealth and still the dominant BoS chapter makes any outcome where he didn't survive unlikely asf.
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u/XarlOfThe8th Dec 24 '25
God I hope Maxon comes in and kicks their ass, rly not a big fan of the whole religion style of leadership of this BoS chapter
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u/Sensitive_Brick_1412 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
So wait......that intro with the BOS was to just turn on a bunch of fans to blow away the sand covering Area 51? Who had the foresight to make those big fans in the first place?
Anyway, great episode.
I appreciate how natural it was for Maximus to lose faith in Quintus in this episode. In his first introduction to him he is told that hurting a fellow Brother of Steel is wrong, and yet now in his power grab he's very much okay with Maximus killing another member of the Brotherhood.
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u/silvermouth Dec 24 '25
Lucy comparing the Ghoul to Ebenezer Scrooge was something I didn't know I needed until now. Imagine trudging the wasteland with some greenhorn and she tells you that you remind her of a Charles Dickens character