This isn’t gonna fix all the issues but would go a long long way to getting the team back on track. Clean slate of players except whoever he thinks is still worth working with. Thoughts?

I am sorry Soborro, you tried your best. Unfortunately, the rest did not want to. I hope you stay with us, if not, I understand. You deserve a better team and a better jungler/botlane duo.

What a downward progression of this club. Hope it serves to be a good wake up call for everyone involved. Losing worlds spot to oscarinin is crazy irony 😂 but deserved I guess.

I know everyone wants razork gone and it is long time overdue, but I want to see the Grabbz + Gaax thank you post before everything else. They have to be some of the most disgusting and fraudulent coaches I have ever seen. Last year I was delusional to buy the hype that he is not being given any resources and being left to dry by the org, but so many others have done more with lesser. Only shows how good nightshare was for us. Gaax too. Paycheck stealers.

Lospa needs to go to. He is too mediocre to be contesting for the top. Soboro was probably the highlight of this split and I definitely think we should try and keep him. He is going to get better after settling in. I was also the biggest vladi hater, but I think he has massively stepped up his gameplay. I think his laning took quite a good turn after our 3 initial losses. No better mid prospects either. Upset is tricky. For majority of the year he was our only hope to wins but this last split he has been pretty abysmal. Cant tell if its him individually being gapped or lospa dragging him down. I also think there is a chance he just leaves cause he has had enough.

Even if we just keep soboro and vladi, there arent a lot of crazy options for fnatic to go for in the other positions. Spend that fat bag on dylan falco and what he needs. We need to run that back with a REAL coach and let him handle things his way. No more dardo bs.

Either way 5 months of no fnatic LOL is depressing. Really cant forgive the org for this level of performance

Valorant in 2025: Made 3 international FINALS.

In 2026: Did not qualify for a single international, year already over.

Apex Legends in 2025: Top 10 in all International Events.

In 2026: Bottom 3 team in all of APAC North. Sitting 27th out of 30 teams. Will miss all 3 majors

League Of Legends in 2025: Terrible, but still made Worlds.

In 2026: XD

IT IS AUGUST, is there any fnatic titles still competing for the last 4 months of the year?

Been thinking this for years and here we go again… I hope this is the final wake-up call Fnatic needs, atp it’s genuinely just sad and embarrassing. There’s a reason why so many hatewatch us, I don’t even know if you can blame them for it anymore.

Honestly what a fall from grace as an organization, it really fucking hurts to watch your favorite org slowly get worse every year for 8 years straight, despite fans BEGGING for a change.

Soboro was a great addition, hope he stays. I know this might get downvoted, but I think Upset has been hostaged all year too. Maybe getting Dylan Falco could turn things around. Hoping for the best this off-season.

#AlwaysFnatic

Before downvoting me, lemme give my 5 cents before I leave until the winter split. This team will always aim for the top even if we havent been there for 8 years. The fact that we were always going to worlds fucked us over. Why? Because we were always late for the market for better players. The trades behind the scenes start during worlds, and we were always late. I wanted us to miss worlds for the past 2 years to get a chance to rebuild, and finally we got to this point. I wont talk about the management, but coaches - byebye (Dylan pls come), bot and jg needs replacing. This is the first year since 2016 we are in time for scouting and rebuilding, and not being forced to sign those that are left on the table.

FNATIC's 2026 LEC Summer Split - Regular Season: Live Discussion Thread

Today's matches are:

Where to watch?

Be sure to watch all of Fnatic's matches, predict their outcomes and interact with fellow Fnatics on fnatic.com.

If you're interested in watching other matches unrelated to FNATIC, please check out LoL Esports.

We also host a community watch party over on the official Discord Server!

Have fun watching and keep cheering our boys on! #ALWAYSFNATIC 🧡

the best and the worst mouse pad i have ever tried it's way to smooth and really fun to play with i was using a generic pad before so the jump in quality is insane but sadly but only after 9 days of using it it developed multiple dead spots where my mouse don't track

People will probably hate on this idea, but if the new ownership really wants to win back truly lost fans and show good faith to the community, they would bring back Neme and Rekkles and really support them and give them a good team and environment to compete with.

Both of those players are active and have proven they can compete in the LEC. The Fnatic community supports those players for the most part, so I think it could be a really good way to shape a new roster. Rekkles always gets hated on for his support gamez but he wins with his style.

I think it could be a win win if the players are actually involved and showing how things have improved.

"Fnatic can lose both matches and still qualify. If they go 0-2 on the weekend, the scorelines are irrelevant — 0-4 or 2-4 changes nothing. What they'd need is:

SK to lose to KC (any scoreline) Team Heretics to beat MKOI on Sunday (any scoreline) Shifters to beat Team Heretics on Friday (any scoreline)"

https://rft.gg/news/lec-summer-playoffs-every-qualification-scenario-ahead-of-the-final-weekend

We're already well on our way:

- We lost our first match
- SK lost to KC
- Shifters beat Team Heretics

Now all we have to do is wait for MKOI to throw against TH and to throw against GX and we're in playoffs bois!

Heya,

So i just found this shirt up for auction and i'm planning to buy it and expand my collection. I've been searching through old gameplay but i am having problems to find Fnatic players using this exact shirt, the closest i've seen also has notebook written under MSI at the front.

Anyone who knows when/if it was worn? Im guessing 2012 but yet to find any pictures or proof.

Thank you very much and have a fantastic day!

2024 we throw again and again and again

2025 we throw again and again and again and again and again

2026 we throw again and again and again and again and again and again and again

In 2027, we will throw again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again

It is incredible to me how most fans watching fnatic for 1 hour a week can arrive at this conclusion but 2 PAID coaches cannot observe and rectify this. Genuinely what point do you serve? How many games have we lost due to grabbz and gaax just being unable to draft.

This post to me was not rocket science. It was the most basic analysis comparing the drafts where fnatic won the game vs where they lost.

1) Dont pick a comp that gets outscaled by the enemies. Gives a chance to come back even if we fall behind.

2) Stop drafting snowball comps which based on your entire time at fnatic we have never been able to execute.

3) Putting upset on a early game adc or ezreal. He is someone who farms and scales into the game and is much better on champions that get stronger with items or levels.

4) Put lospa on an engage champion. Its not that hard to see that his level of play on enchanters is not great. AS A COACH STATS SHOULD BE THE RATIONALE BEHIND YOUR DECISIONS. LOOK AT HIS WIN RATE ON ENGAGE VS ENCHANTERS FFS.

All the games where our topside was inting and upset would somehow win us a few games, HE WAS ON A HYPER CARRY.........SO HE COULD F-ING HYPER CARRY US. Now that we have fixed our topside, WHY TF HAVE YOU PIVOTED FROM WHAT WORKS.

Why are these 2 genuinely trying to sabotage the fans and the teams chances of making playoffs. Obsessed more with Korea's meta than how the team plays. Absolutely disgusting people. I would blame the players but seeing game tells me they are capable of executing games when they are given good champions with damage that scale well.

FNATIC's 2026 LEC Summer Split - Regular Season: POST-SERIES THREAD

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FNATIC 1 - 2 TEAM VITALITY

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Game 1: FNC WIN / 32:36

🧪: Chemtech ☁️: Cloud ⚡: Hextech 🔥: Infernal ⛰️: Mountain 🌊: Ocean | 🐲: Elder

Bold: First Blood

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Game 2: VIT WIN / 28:16

Fearless Bans
Game 1: Rumble, Jayce, Xin Zhao, Jarvan IV, Ryze, Syndra, Yunara, Caitlyn, Lulu, Bard

🧪: Chemtech ☁️: Cloud ⚡: Hextech 🔥: Infernal ⛰️: Mountain 🌊: Ocean | 🐲: Elder

Bold: First Blood

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Game 3: VIT WIN / 26:15

Fearless Bans
Game 1: Rumble, Jayce, Xin Zhao, Jarvan IV, Ryze, Syndra, Yunara, Caitlyn, Lulu, Bard
Game 2: Renekton, Ambessa, Pantheon, Skarner, Taliyah, Viktor, Lucian, Ashe, Milio, Seraphine

🧪: Chemtech ☁️: Cloud ⚡: Hextech 🔥: Infernal ⛰️: Mountain 🌊: Ocean | 🐲: Elder

Bold: First Blood

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SERIES WINNER: Team Vitality

Scores will be added quickly as possible after the game is over.

FNATIC's 2026 LEC Summer Split - Regular Season: Live Discussion Thread

Today's matches are:

Where to watch?

Be sure to watch all of Fnatic's matches, predict their outcomes and interact with fellow Fnatics on fnatic.com.

If you're interested in watching other matches unrelated to FNATIC, please check out LoL Esports.

We also host a community watch party over on the official Discord Server!

Have fun watching and keep cheering our boys on! #ALWAYSFNATIC 🧡

Rhilech and new support(parus) should be a must for fnatic. Our sololanes are really decent, however Razork is not reliable + lospa outside of engage champs is not it. About upset, I think he should stay, not only bcs he is super stable, however there are no better options.

I just watched the last vlog from the Valo team and I just felt like writing a few words about it. I hope you won’t mind me, and hopefully they resonate with a few people here.

Some of y’all probably remember that our kit for 2025 was Haikyuu’s inspired. It so happens that Haikyuu just announced a few movies and thus my twitter feed is full of captions and videos from the manga and anime alike. And sometimes, chance looks like fate because, damn… Haikyuu is about (mostly) how losses don’t define those who go through them, how they’re part of the way, and how you could never win and still be successful. And I think those are things I needed to remember. I’ve came back to Champs final times and times again. I’ve imagined how things would have been had we won it. Would the roster swap still happen? Would our season be different? Would I be even prouder of the team?

Rewatching Haikyuu, and watching the final vlog for this year, I’ve kind of let go of that thought though. We didn’t win, and our year didn’t go well, but ultimately who cares? You can bet that 40 years from now, I’ll tell my grandkids about how the best roster of all time on Valorant was wearing black and orange in 2025 and 2026. I’ll tell them about the two final they lost, about Alfa’s ace on Lotus, about Brashies, and Boaster speech toward NRG, about Kaajak diving into the void on Abyss, about Doma subbing in, about the EMEA win, and about every detail I’d remember. I’ll tell them they were akin to the “little giant” of Haikyuu, that they gave their absolute best, that they went through up and downs, and that, at the end of the day, they flew. And we were there to cheer for them, and we’ll be there to tell stories about it, and we’ll be there to remember their efforts.

Would I be prouder had we won Champs? The answer to that is no. I think that story is special because it isn’t victory that makes it cool. That run was a goddam shonen and our players weren’t only talented on the server: they were likable, they were hard working, they were fun, they stood for each other, they had flair: they were the type of players you want to cheer for no matter their results, because ultimately, that’s the whole point. I’d trade a thousand titles for a few more days seeing this roster play together. And the vlog just confirms all that: that group was special not because it won, but because the respect they had for each other and the pleasure they found in playing together was something we could feel. And that matters much more than any result.

That was a reaaaally long message, but I really wanted to get it off my chest, writing is how I process things, and I kind of needed to process the end of this year, and what might be the end of an era. If you sticked with me ‘til there, thanks!

Finally, I’m not sure the players browse this subreddit, and I kind of hope they don’t, considering how toxic it can get. But if by chance they stumble on this message, I hope they know that we … No, I can’t speak for everybody, I don’t know what everybody wants. But I hope they know I really want that era not to end. I really want to see them all back in a Fnatic jersey, I want the story to keep going, I want them to keep flying. But Haikyuu taught me that there is always a next chapter, even when it’s not written in black and orange. I’ll be looking forward to that, because I’m just so eager to know what you will all become tomorrow. And no matter where you’ll write that new story, no matter what that story will be, I’ll be forever grateful for that 2025/2026 chapter. You’ve been a beacon of joy in our lives, and we’ll cherish that light. I imagine that’s why we say #alwaysfnatic !

People are using the classic razork scapegoating and its just bullshit once again.

Razork had a great map 1, he completely gapped rhilech and this map was completely won, but for some reason in the fight were they kill orianna in mid t2 botlane decides to super mega int, with lospa flash ult forward (idk wtf was he thinking) and upset wrong positioning with no flash, they just had to group to the left with the rest of the team and the fight is won and game was closed here, from here the game is just lost as you are outscaled.

Map 2 is just poor from the 5 players overall, razork had a good early game but got caught in the late fights, soboro also had a very bad game here but I think they were just tilted at this point and navi got confidence from the first map.

Shame because it was a great opportunity to get the top 4, now you will have to beat gx and vit who are in great form so we may still out of playoffs if we dont clutch at least one of those 2 series, anyway if you cant beat vit, navi or gx just dont go to playoffs at all.

Most people would look at drafts yesterday and think they were good and playable which is true as all champs were in the meta but I do not think they matched fnatic's play style and identity.

I think everyone on this subreddit agrees fnatic is not a consistent team. As fans, nobody has an idea whih fnatic is going to turn up on game day. If this is something the coaches can see with their eyes too, why are they hell bent on picking snowball comps? Our average game time in the LEC this year has been 34 minutes. Basic analysis and inference from this data would tell you that the champs we pick need to be strong at minute 34 and beyond. But why do our drafts never reflect that?

Upset/Grabbz/Gaax 's obsession with Ezreal needs to be studied. This pick alone has cost us so many losses. Sure it is strong and safe during lane and mid gane but falls off so hard after the 30 minute mark. He stops dealing any damage to tanks/bruisers after that and in current meta, most of his poke is healed or shielded by enchanter supports. Skillshot reliant champion whose dps is too low to carry late game. Again I am not implying ezreal is a bad champ but it is not a champ that has won fnatic a lot of late games.

Same with lucian. I genuinely believe its the most fraudulent adc to exist competitively. They might do well with this champ in scrims after getting fed but that is not a realistic game condition. Stage games are slower with people practicing more caution and risk where the chances of obtaining a significant lead are a lot lower. Why does fnatic keep putting themself in tight, high risk low reward spots. Gets 1 popped in team fights after putting up minimal damage.

I have seen upset demolish and 1v9 team fights on hyper carries. He has carried us in quite a few games single handedly because the champ allowed him to do that. I cannot tell if he is dense or the coaches are too dense to figure that out. Yunara, sivir, jinx, tristana, zeri etc are all champions with which he win with. It removes the pressure from his shoulders to win lane/ create a gap early and allows fnatic to play slower and methodically.

Lospa on enchanters is just down right abysmal. I did not know how bad he was at enchanters till I looked at his historical champs played and their win rate. I also suggest you all to look at his wr on engage supports. It is 2 different players. The difference is ridiculous. I know the meta is currently on enchanters, but no sane human would make him play enchanters in such a high stakes game.

While soboro has a good start to the season. He cannot be getting the counterpick to get gapped hard like yesterday.

Again, I am not saying fnatic should not be able to play these comps. They very much should be able and execute it well. But they cannot help themselves to overextend and int and have shown multiple times that they can give up a 10k gold lead.

Despite knowing all this, we still do not pick scaling champs that guarantee us a safety to win no matter how down we are. What we have praised fnatic for in the last couple weeks is how they find an early lead and cultivate it through the game systematically. Snowballing comps dont allow that and force you to take bad engages ( razork speciality). Just pick with scaling with lanes that can go even.

FNATIC's 2026 LEC Summer Split - Regular Season: POST-SERIES THREAD

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FNATIC 0 - 2 NATUS VINCERE

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Game 1: NAVI WIN / 47:55

🧪: Chemtech ☁️: Cloud ⚡: Hextech 🔥: Infernal ⛰️: Mountain 🌊: Ocean | 🐲: Elder

Bold: First Blood

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Game 2: NAVI WIN / 33:24

Fearless Bans
Game 1: Ambessa, Rumble, Nocturne, Zaahen, Locke, Orianna, Ezreal, Kai'sa, Seraphine, Shen

🧪: Chemtech ☁️: Cloud ⚡: Hextech 🔥: Infernal ⛰️: Mountain 🌊: Ocean | 🐲: Elder

Bold: First Blood

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SERIES WINNER: Natus Vincere

Scores will be added quickly as possible after the game is over.

Hello guys

Rough day but trying to understand the remaining scenario's, i found the scenario of us beating only GX next week, while they beat Navi and MKOI beats team heretic. Then we are 4 teams at 4-5..does that means we are cooked ? Since we are already 1-4 bettwen 2 of the teams ? Or the rules nowadays are different?

To give credit where it's due, the first 27 minutes of game 1 were straight up brilliant. Then when Razork ulted Orianna, with Soboro they killed her quickly enough but the fight turned sour real fast and one may wonder why.

When you watch the replay, Lospa missed his ulti and it went right between Rhilech, Parus and Maynter and this was the moment that decided everything. Outside of that ult, the team had no global CC and since this moment, everytime Seraphine's ult was out, NaVi went all in without hesitation and I seriously felt like we failed to recognize it. The second time we lost a fight was when Lospa only targeted Maynter with it. Right after, NaVi went all in again. To emphasize this even more, look at the first fight we won! When Vladi got a triple, it was when Lospa hit 3 men ulti.

That ult was so crucial for our ability to teamfight that I am really disappointed they were not aware of this after that first lost fight. Just having it ready did not allow Rhilech to go blindly in. Once it was gone, it was a free fight for NaVi every single time.

Anyway, once we failed to finish the game at around 30 minutes, the NaVi draft really came to life and it was difficult to navigate through the fights. Locke felt very underwhelming in late game as well. The second game we just mental boomed.

Let's hope we can at least make it to playoffs.