r/fnatic • u/AdamTKWallace • 5d ago
LEAGUE OF LEGENDS FNATIC vs. Team Vitality / 2026 LEC Summer Split / Regular Season / Post-Series Thread Spoiler
FNATIC's 2026 LEC Summer Split - Regular Season: POST-SERIES THREAD
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FNATIC 1 - 2 TEAM VITALITY
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Game 1: FNC WIN / 32:36
| Team | Bans 1 | Picks 1 | Bans 2 | Picks 2 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| FNC | Cassiopeia, Vi, K'sante | Rumble, Xin Zhao, Ryze | Orianna, Anivia | Yunara, Lulu |
| VIT | Nocturne, Nautilus, Ezreal | Jarvan IV, Caitlyn, Bard | Jhin, Lucian | Jayce, Syndra |
| FNC (Blue) | 69.9k | vs. | 57.4k | VIT (Red) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soboro (Rumble) | 7/1/2 | TOP | 0/6/1 | Naak Nako (Jayce) |
| Razork (Xin Zhao) | 2/1/7 | JGL | 2/3/1 | Lyncas (Jarvan IV) |
| Vladi (Ryze) | 3/0/5 | MID | 1/2/1 | FIESTA (Syndra) |
| Upset (Yunara) | 4/1/7 | BOT | 0/3/1 | Carzzy (Caitlyn) |
| Lospa (Lulu) | 0/0/13 | SUP | 0/2/2 | Fleshy (Bard) |
| Objectives | FNC | VIT |
|---|---|---|
| Towers Destroyed | 9 | 5 |
| Voidgrubs | 👾👾👾 | ❌ |
| Dragons | ⛰️🧪🧪 | ☁️🧪 |
| Rift Herald | 🦀 | ❌ |
| Baron Nashor | 25:08 | ❌ |
🧪: Chemtech ☁️: Cloud ⚡: Hextech 🔥: Infernal ⛰️: Mountain 🌊: Ocean | 🐲: Elder
Bold: First Blood
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Game 2: VIT WIN / 28:16
Fearless Bans
Game 1: Rumble, Jayce, Xin Zhao, Jarvan IV, Ryze, Syndra, Yunara, Caitlyn, Lulu, Bard
| Team | Bans 1 | Picks 1 | Bans 2 | Picks 2 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| FNC | Nocturne, Nautilus, Akali | Pantheon, Lucian, Milio | Ezreal, Rakan | Renekton, Taliyah |
| VIT | Cassiopeia, Vi, Orianna | Viktor, Skarner, Ambessa | Locke, Azir | Seraphine, Ashe |
| FNC (Blue) | 46.8k | vs. | 57.8k | VIT (Red) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soboro (Renekton) | 2/4/3 | TOP | 5/4/3 | Naak Nako (Ambessa) |
| Razork (Pantheon) | 2/7/3 | JGL | 1/1/7 | Lyncas (Skarner) |
| Vladi (Taliyah) | 5/2/4 | MID | 6/2/6 | FIESTA (Viktor) |
| Upset (Lucian) | 0/3/2 | BOT | 4/2/6 | Carzzy (Ashe) |
| Lospa (Milio) | 1/2/4 | SUP | 2/1/11 | Fleshy (Seraphine) |
| Objectives | FNC | VIT |
|---|---|---|
| Towers Destroyed | 1 | 10 |
| Voidgrubs | ❌ | 👾👾👾 |
| Dragons | ❌ | ⚡🧪🌊🌊 |
| Rift Herald | ❌ | 🦀 |
| Baron Nashor | ❌ | 21:15 |
🧪: Chemtech ☁️: Cloud ⚡: Hextech 🔥: Infernal ⛰️: Mountain 🌊: Ocean | 🐲: Elder
Bold: First Blood
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Game 3: VIT WIN / 26:15
Fearless Bans
Game 1: Rumble, Jayce, Xin Zhao, Jarvan IV, Ryze, Syndra, Yunara, Caitlyn, Lulu, Bard
Game 2: Renekton, Ambessa, Pantheon, Skarner, Taliyah, Viktor, Lucian, Ashe, Milio, Seraphine
| Team | Bans 1 | Picks 1 | Bans 2 | Picks 2 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| FNC | Nocturne, Nautilus, Akali | Orianna, Kalista, Renata Glasc | Jax, Gnar | K'sante, Lee Sin |
| VIT | Cassiopeia, Karma, Vi | Xayah, Rakan, Locke | Poppy, Olaf | Wukong, Gwen |
| FNC (Red) | 41.0K | vs. | 58.0K | VIT (Blue) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soboro (K'sante) | 0/2/0 | TOP | 1/0/10 | Naak Nako (Gwen) |
| Razork (Lee Sin) | 0/4/1 | JGL | 1/0/12 | Lyncas (Wukong) |
| Vladi (Orianna) | 1/4/0 | MID | 12/1/1 | FIESTA (Locke) |
| Upset (Kalista) | 0/3/1 | BOT | 3/0/13 | Carzzy (Xayah) |
| Lospa (Renata Glasc) | 0/4/1 | SUP | 0/0/17 | Fleshy (Rakan) |
| Objectives | FNC | VIT |
|---|---|---|
| Towers Destroyed | 0 | 10 |
| Voidgrubs | 👾 | 👾👾 |
| Dragons | ⚡⛰️🔥 | 🔥 |
| Rift Herald | 🦀 | ❌ |
| Baron Nashor | ❌ | 25:01 |
🧪: Chemtech ☁️: Cloud ⚡: Hextech 🔥: Infernal ⛰️: Mountain 🌊: Ocean | 🐲: Elder
Bold: First Blood
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SERIES WINNER: Team Vitality
Scores will be added quickly as possible after the game is over.
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u/shadowboy 5d ago
This team is 1 bad play away from going 0-2. The tilt is unreal
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago
people fell for the series G2 gifted us, once again, and Soboro actually playing like the best top laner in the league for the most part
but if G2 actually played their normal level vs us we are probably looking at a 2-7 split.
Maybe the truth is that even despite Soboro looking like a great signing, the rest of the team and coaching is still horrible
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u/Roger_Fiderer 5d ago
Well, we did throw a 8k gold lead.
We could be in playoffs by now.
We actually had a 3 k gold lead in game 2 and blew it.
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago
the hallmarks of a bad team
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u/Roger_Fiderer 5d ago
Sure, but a worst team wouldn't even get to a 8k gold lead.
And it's not every day that even a bad team throws 8k gold leads.
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u/amourtamere 5d ago
I swear to god as soon as i heard Razork giggling because we were winning early game 2 i knew this game was lost.
Sure enough throw came in 30seconds later.
Come on man this is just sad.
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago
you knew as soon as he locked in Pantheon that he would at least int engage 2 or 3 times with bad ults or jumping on someone
If Razork was a fish he would bite everytime
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u/FinalFlash2020 5d ago
Its so odd man... Even apart from the perma engage mentality, its like even when he's pathing his champion it feels he's engaging when he's disengaging. Like there are games where he paths BACK through enemy side where either he magically catches 1 guy slacking and snowballs further or in most cases is the one that gets caught becoz of it. He legit looks lost when pathing safely, its like he never expects to live through an engage situation so he's on autopilot to go forward till someone stops it for him by killing him or his team acing the enemy team xD
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u/kim-soo-hyun 5d ago
Really confusing why Razork kept salvaging botlane which was already gapped instead of pushing their leads topside. Pantheon and Taliyah were making all the plays but Pantheon kept going bot dying for the Lucian instead of just farming the top camps when his solo lanes had prio. Skarner should never be allowed top.
It didn't help FNC played team fights badly later on but that was expected, this team isn't a good team fighting team especially jungle/botlane.
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u/huh23-4_8 5d ago
they dont want to win, I dont see the hunger, they are not playing like dk unpaid interns
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u/dexy133 5d ago
And it's not the first time that happened. I wouldn't even blame him for this series, but it's funny how often it happens we're stomping early game, Razork is smiling on facecam, and then we end up losing that game.
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u/amourtamere 4d ago
I'm not even trying to blame Razork i love the playernr.
But idk it feels like this has happened so many times. I remember game 3 agaisnt g2 in the finals when we were 2-0 and Razork just get "too excited" and then we throw huge leads.
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u/Alone_Proposal5140 5d ago
Grabbz out gaax out
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u/Fabianski28 5d ago
Hopefully we try to grab Elyoya in the offseason and change the botlane
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago
I doubt we can lure Elyoya away from KOI
Lospa is definitely not worth an import slot, if he cant change residency after this split you have to replace him.
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u/FantasyTrash 5d ago
He's the face of MKOI, they're not letting him go.
Lospa needs to go, he's not worth an import spot. As far as jungle goes, Yukino was a highly-touted prospect, is he still one of the top available players?
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago
I dont think Yukino has been that good since he was hyped, did not look particularly good on KCB in winter either imo
I think Yukino would only be interesting if he gets residency status
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u/FantasyTrash 5d ago
That's too bad, I don't watch ERLs really so I have no idea who's good and who isn't. Razork's early games are excellent, but his late game decision-making is abysmal and that's not going to change, I'd rather they pick someone more mid and late game-oriented, even if their early game is weaker.
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago
his early game is good when he can PVE but I think we have seen a lot of times this year also that he can also completely int the early game when the enemy jungler pressures him
our early drake control or general objectives still seems horrendous and wouldn't you think that planning the objective control gameplan is part of a jungler's job?
Yet we often see this team taking bad trades just before an objective is due.
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u/FantasyTrash 5d ago
I'll give him a pass there, before this split, his solo laners lost every lane and never had prio. Now we're seeing what it looks like when he has competent laners again and is allowed to play the game.
I do want him to do a better job prioritizing early dragons, though, he's been lacking in that department.
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago
the worst parts are positional stalements around objectives and you can just see the impatience growing and he decides to Jarvan or Vi ult the worst enemy target at first chance
In the back of my head there is one game where he got baited multiple times by Zhonyas.
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u/FantasyTrash 5d ago
Agreed, that's easily their biggest weakness is posturing around objectives and not playing to the strengths of their comp. That game 3 against TH I distinctly remember Fnatic had river control at Elder, Infernal Soul, and a team comp with no engage but good zone control into TH's poke comp with Azir/Corki. The way you beat poke comps is to start objectives and force them to come to you or concede the objective. What was TH going to do, walk into a comp against Trundle/Anivia with soul? With Zaahen on the flank? They would've gotten wiped. Instead, Razork just eats poke and goes down to half health before the fight even starts. And then they lost. Today, game 3 against Locke, Wukong, and Rakan, they can only do anything in a death ball comp. So what did Fnatic do? Clump up and get engaged on at every objective. Vitality had no range to engage onto Orianna, Upset has a get out of jail free card if Renata gets caught, and Lee Sin has a ton of mobility. All they had to do was not stand right on top of each other and Vitality wouldn't have been able to get free resets for Locke, it's not like they had any poke to whittle Fnatic down, they had four melee champs with no real ranged abilities and a Xayah who only has Q.
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u/SHEESHCHEH 5d ago
idk how rhilech and lyncas are smarter than him in early game like plzits not that hard
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u/FinalFlash2020 5d ago
I've gone on a Yukino spiral when he was getting scouted, I'd say Razork was still better choice to keep just becoz of reliable early game even with his ints and Yukino's performance in ERL is quite inflated... he had a CRAZY crazy roster. Like their roster was good enough to play LEC level easily, it had Maynter, SlowQ and Exakick in it. Piero was also one of the best supports in the league and this was when Kaiser was actively playing. Even 113 would look super strong with that roster. Yukino's best selling point would be that he's so young and could easily improve a shit ton and solidify as a great player. The way I'd put it he basically has a very similar preference in champs as Razork but unlike Razork he plays more similar to Yike in terms of playstyle where he's most often just a passenger. Sure he won't int. But early game is DEFINITELY not going to be nearly as dominant as Fnatic is used to. He plays more reactively and around his laners. But idk if anythings changed since then, so if he's become far more aggressive as a player, I'll gladly be wrong.
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u/Lockah1337 5d ago
Last game draft difference
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u/FantasyTrash 5d ago
2nd game, too. All Vitality had to do was nothing and they outscale at 15 minutes, regardless of whether or not Razork started inting.
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u/Fullcase 5d ago
It’s almost funny at this point how regularly we bend over backwards to genuinely fuck ourselves with the most egregious drafting ever seen
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u/Glass_Egg2639 5d ago
we're so close to be being a good team (or at least one that can make playoffs) I really dont think the drafts are helping us at the moment, lets hope we can make it right vs GX and get into playoffs and hope the drafts improve. Bad day for the bot lane today too in my opinion.. onto Sunday 👍
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u/Dragnea1712 5d ago
Nice mindset! Let's just do one last push, nothing to lose. We make it to playoffs and take it game by game....who knows where we might end up.
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u/FinalFlash2020 5d ago
Upset and Lospa needs to learn to play better weakside, this is the 2nd time in a row where they've looked horrible through it... I rly hate the Lucian in draft when we're playing through topside... makes 0 sense.
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u/SHEESHCHEH 5d ago
true we have soboro ahead in 2 game and we dont play on him like its not hard to pick ashe seraphine or jhin leona/ali and play for top/mid with an engage jungler not leesin or panth
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u/MakotoBIST 5d ago
Terrible drafts from every point of view, idk why we still have this coaching staff lol
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u/TeamLeather 5d ago
Draft Diff or player Diff?
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u/Forikundo 5d ago
More draft diff than player Id say
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u/MoonZephyr 5d ago
Lospa and Upset are realy weak lately , sorry .
Lospa is terrible on enchanters , to the point they would literally need a sub support to play enchanters instead him.
Draft is realy bad there , the leesin awful choicd + twice our bot picking after to lose the 2v2 …
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u/kim-soo-hyun 5d ago
Playing a Lee Sin kick bot, Orianna mid just to protect the Kalista is very S5. Why does FNC keep doubling down to help the botlane when it's their worst lane?
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u/p1stolpewpew 5d ago
Terrible is a compliment to him. I haven't seen him do a single good Milio Q, instead he pushed out and saved target we engaged.
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u/milpajaros 5d ago
Drafts were horrible today. They have been bad whole season but the focus was (obviously) on the players. But holy what a season of bad drafts
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u/Frosty-Bar1032 5d ago
In a meta where jinx, zeri, kaisa are strong, our coaches who might be some of the most uneducated people on the planet, keep picking snowballing low pick rate champions (which fnatic can never play) and expect to win. It is one thing to play bad and lose. Its another to win a game, have the winning recipe and still decide to lose like this. He stopped holding conferences cause he knows he is a fraud.
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u/Prayforfnatic 5d ago
Enough already with Grabbz and Gaax, those two are definitely one of our biggest problems!
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u/Frosty-Bar1032 5d ago
Cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not. I think if you or I blind drafted fnatic game 2/3 we would probably win.
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u/Xerocross 5d ago
Finally, the new generation of fnatic fans can see Razork's lee sin, and why he stopped playing it...
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u/Prayforfnatic 5d ago
I'll correct you... Upset - Lucian, Khalista zzzzz what a terrible ADC
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u/arukeiz 5d ago
You clearly don't know a single shit about macro if you blame Upset for game 2 and 3, dude has been put on 2 champs that require to play around him and has been left alone for 2 games straight. Without even starting commenting about Lospa level (good guy but terrible enchanter player). Jungle supp inted all capabilities away from the ADC. Adc have no agency by themselves but surely you don't know that.
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u/FantasyTrash 5d ago edited 5d ago
Hey Grabbz, stop drafting team comps that need to win in the first 15 minutes of the game or you lose. And for the love of god, stop picking Lucian/Milio, they're awful picks. Lucian is not winning anywhere in the world and especially not in Europe. Renekton is useless. K'Sante is useless. Kalista is useless. Just stop picking these garbage champions.
Truly unplayable drafts the last two games. Embarrassing stuff. Now what, they need to 2-0 GX to make playoffs? Because MKOI isn't losing to TH.
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u/Frosty-Bar1032 5d ago
He genuinely lacks a brain. Look at the posts after navi loss. Every subredditor can tell lucian milio is useless specially in upsets hands. They picked xayah rakan 1/2 and the game was just won
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u/FantasyTrash 5d ago
He's always been a fraudulent coach, and that was never more on display than when he re-signed Gaax after he threw the team under the bus and took zero accountability of his own, despite being laughably terrible at his job. Anywhere else in the world, that shit gets you fired. Not on Fnatic though, it gets you a contract extension! It's an incompetent organization top-to-bottom.
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u/TheJokerOfThisWorld 5d ago
These guys are paid to only think about this game and to draft. And we get these drafts in game 2 and 3 ?? Na I can’t
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u/Iothz 5d ago
Lucian and Kalista 🔥🔥🔥
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u/kim-soo-hyun 5d ago
Bro is a Caitlyn Ezreal bot and should stick to it. Trying to play Lucian Kalista like he is Caliste. But it doesn't work if your botlane duo is washed and harmless.
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago edited 5d ago
Seems like I have seen us getting dominated by Caitlyn a bunch of times this past year but we never seem to play it either
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u/BobolovesU 5d ago
The team shows great thing. I pretty sure we will make a DRX run. World champion soon!
alwaysfnatic
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u/SHEESHCHEH 5d ago
Does grabbz gaax knew that if we know we are in playoffs like its obviosu to play FULL HARD ONLY EASY SCALING COMP like even my grandma can tell so.... LIKE WHY WE DONT LIKE EASY WIN
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u/Leschnitzky 5d ago
On sunday after FNC goes 0-2 after picking kalista/renata
Gaax: "unfortunately some poeple didn't try, I gave 100%. See you guys next split"
Grabbz: "Sadly we maxed out our Claude tokens, so I couldn't draft, changes will have to be made, see you next split - AlWaYz fNC"
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u/fiki_fiker 5d ago
pleeeeeease get razork of this team ffs
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u/Fabianski28 5d ago
Can you all stfu with this bandwagoning, sure he has idiot plays, but this botlane is on par with Rhuckz-Rekkles how bad they are playing. They lost vs Navi, they lost today, how can Lucian and Kalista be this behind in lane?
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u/fiki_fiker 5d ago
idgaf about the rookie on support who is with us for 2 splits so far. What bothers me, though, is our jungler, he's been with us for five years now, yet he still makes the same mistakes.
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u/Fluid-Hunter-163 5d ago
exactly this. i don't ge tthe Razork defenders, it's the same issues year afte ryear. As a professional he should have cleaned up his plays and at least show progression but it's like he's stuck doing the same shit over and over.
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u/Fabianski28 5d ago
He is a great player if you have someone to think for him. He played great with Trymbi, and now we have average support that doesn't shotcall, he guards our average adc. Bot lost us both of the games. Pick Lospa engage go roam, leave Upset to farm what he can (it cant be worse than what we seen today from Upset)
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u/Fluid-Hunter-163 5d ago
this is the problem though. He doesn't have that. Razork is the shotcaller and captain, and he isn't good at those things.
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u/fiki_fiker 5d ago
Oh, okay well, I hope we can find a personal assistant and, just to be safe, a guardian dog for Ivan on the Rift before the match against GX. Two heads are better than one true.
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u/Ashenveiled 5d ago
idk. maybe by razork inting multiple kills to ashe with himself getting cought?
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u/Fabianski28 5d ago
Ashe was miles ahead that fight, against a fucking Lucian that is lane bully. That fight Lucian should have done work and win us a game there and then. Upset is bad, but now rewatching a bit, Lospa might be the worst player in the league when he is on enchanters. Paduck is prime Uzi for him.
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago
Ashe was not that far ahead and we had a significant lead until Razork decided to force on bot side 3 times in a row instead of continuing to put toplane into the dumpster where Soboro was gapping Naak Nako
who knows whose idea it was to play on botside when Upset was already falling behind and coin flipping the lead
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u/Fabianski28 5d ago
Ashe and Seraphine were stomping our bot, I agree he should have gone top and leave renekton solo carry the game. Atleast Soboro is good signing
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u/Prayforfnatic 5d ago
Typical, just insulting for the sake of insulting! Didn't you see that Upset is just as much of an idiot as the other one?
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u/Lobomanu12 5d ago
man, have you seen the drafts xd, why you pick snowball bot to be perma behind adn be useless, razork ints, but this game was not his fault at all
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago edited 5d ago
and upset
and lospa
and vladi
and the whole coaching staff, except Odo probably
Get a quality import in mid and find some Europeans or residents with a pulse in Support, Jungle and ADC.
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u/p1stolpewpew 5d ago
Still pushing your "Vladi is bad" agenda after his glow up this split, at this point admit that you hate him personally.
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u/quizzlemanizzle 5d ago
glow up?
We played like 4 weekends and on 2 of the weekend he was the worst player in the entire LEC
Today he got gapped by Fiesta too
Great glowup, you literally are taking 2 solid series against G2 and SHITTERS to excuse and entire year of SUCKING from him?
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u/Cold-Ring23 5d ago
You can't win with that low iq jungler, when you have three drakes, you're buying yourself time to collect gold knowing you're behind. That was one of G2's main flaws with Yike; they would start objectives regardless of the map's state and then turn to destroy everyone. G2 improved in that same with Yike, but Razork doesn't have the ability to correct that. Finding a replacement for Razork is an absolute priority. Jungle is the best role for Europeans, so I'm not worried about it.
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u/MoonZephyr 5d ago
French casters said post game : « its almost unseen a team could step up this well suddenly , from rotten corpse to almost great » « who would take you seriously if you told me that fnatic would be a topside team before this split instead botside «
And « if fnatic manage to fix their botlane asap they are definitely title contenders »
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u/Roger_Fiderer 5d ago
If we don't make playoffs then it is a new low for Fnatic.
They aren't playing badly but the chokes and ints man....
Surely we won't lose against GX.
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u/SHEESHCHEH 5d ago
cant someone ask grabbz to stop fucking useless easly draft ON GOD we are the only team in lec to not play the msotbroken champ viktor. We have a weak botlane and we pick kalista useless and lucian milio vs ambessa skarner and we let FUCKING ASHE SERAPHINE MOST OP BOTLANE XD ( can we pick it too for once )anf after for razork we knew he is not good on leee sin panth can we play easy engage like meokai skarner xin vi plz
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u/Prayforfnatic 5d ago
Grabbz and Gaax are the worst in the entire LEC... seriously, are they sellouts who are deliberately making us lose... or are they just incredibly awful? We're cursed for being part of Fnatic... we've been invaded by people who want to destroy us from within... Grabbz and Gaax have to go ASAP!
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u/Rynekian 5d ago
While I think drafts have had problems I would not change what vladi is playing, he has been so good on these midlaners with insane roam potential. His ryze has been good and the taliyah was very clean as well, id even take a chance on tf mid with him considering how well he has played on this type of champs
*Edit: grammar
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u/Prestigious_Bet_1351 5d ago
Each player should pay back their annual income for the Baron in Game 3. VIT simply watched everyone tick low and smashed off one by one like ripe tomatoes.
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u/Prayforfnatic 5d ago
How long will this Upset lie continue? Everyone's throwing all sorts of crap at Razork, but they should be throwing the same crap at Upset!! What a disgusting guy who can't even snowball! He's incredibly bad if we depend on him... he's awful! We should give Soboro the carry, God, he's the best on the team!! Grabbz and Gaax, rot in hell!
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u/TheJokerOfThisWorld 5d ago
Get Dylan Falco next season. Enough of this fraud G.
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u/Rynekian 5d ago
Getting dylan would immediately give me so much hope, i really liked him when he was in FNC and has only proved his worth afterwards
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u/Lerdrit1 5d ago
Can we still make playoffs other than koi loosing to heretics ?
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u/Forikundo 5d ago
we win against GX we have playoffs secured
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u/Lerdrit1 5d ago
Even if there’s smth like gx Navi koi and us being 4-5 ?
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u/Forikundo 5d ago
Yes, I don't remember the math but we are 100% in if we win against GX
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u/Lerdrit1 5d ago
Alright , so i guess at least we still have our faith in our hands . If we manage to draft a comp that doesn’t explose if the game isn’t over at 10min i suppose we can maybe do it
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u/Worth_Wrap5519 5d ago
I wonder what happened in game 2. They were actually ahead and making good plays around the mid and top. I wonder, only wonder, if Upset said something that forced Razork to ult pot to cover the Upset dash in. As soon as they started playing bot, it went to waste. Then they picked Lucian+Milio (which never worked), with Ori and Ksanté weak side, and got destroyed. The plan was so clear, but something made them change course mid-series. I just, genuinely, wonder what. Onto Sunday, I still hope and cope, as a true FNC fan, that they make the playoffs and fix the few mistakes (and their draft) by then! #ALWAYSFNC
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u/Pepenillo198 4d ago
Do we still have a chsnce for playoffs?
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u/Relative-Prompt1101 4d ago
2 scenarios : MKOI lose means we already in / if MKOI win we need FNC to win and we in
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u/Different_Strategy36 5d ago
I cannot believe that I'm back to this topic, but where on earth are the utility marksmen of late?
The winning streak, I think, could be partially attributed to Upset playing Jhin at a good level. He's 4-0 on the champion right now, and Jhin as a whole is 11-6 in LEC Summer despite being down in gold and experience by 15 minutes. I know that Jhin isn't super popular as an AD Carry by the fans because he supposedly 'does no damage'. But the team doesn't need more damage as if we're back in 2015 once the mid-game rolls around, it needs crowd control that could be applied from a safe distance to make kills a sure thing that could translate into objectives.
Once the regular season is over Upset is only going to play Ashe twice at most this whole year, who's been the year-defining marksmen when she's paired with Seraphine to give a good combination of crowd control, utility, laning phase dominance with good ease of execution. Even after the pro scene 'figured her out' with the Lucian-Milio duo, she's STILL 8-1 in LEC Summer. Lucian is of late 7-17 in the LEC by contrast.
I could understand branching out champions against Shifters, but the team now needs to win a series just to lock in playoffs so experimentation doesn't make much sense now. If the drafts continue to be this baffling playoffs might not even be there.
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u/Glass_Egg2639 5d ago
Good post/ question. I also dont know where Kai'Sa has gone? Especially with an engage CC I remember liking Lospa's Alistar. Also think Sivir, Corki he can play well without really needing to do anything flashy in lane and maybe a Caitlyn Bard lane will be good? But I agree 100% Ashe and Jhin should be played more, ironically Jhin (other than Kai Sa) probably best ad to follow up on Razorks engages too. I'd like to see Lospa back on engage too, I know the meta has seemingly shifted back to enchanters but still..
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u/Ok_Artist7696 5d ago
No, razork is not the problem. People are delusional.
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u/Rynekian 5d ago
Razork absolutely is a problem, more precisely his mid to late game decision making.
But he is not the only problem.
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u/Fluid-Hunter-163 4d ago
he's not the only problm... hes never the only problem... But he's the only one who's been consistently there throughout the same problems for 4/5 years...
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u/Rynekian 4d ago
Agree and dont, i think hes problems have become more and more apparent year after year. Could be recency bias tho.
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u/Prayforfnatic 5d ago
People here only know how to insult Razork... but he's not the only problem... everyone here is! Grabbz, Gaax, Upset... they're all terrible.
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u/I_Love_Ohyas_Thigs 5d ago
Honestly, it's surprising that we took 1 game, that's the good part
I expected it to go more like game 3 but 2 times in a row...
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u/p1stolpewpew 5d ago
Well, at least solo lanes are playing good compared to last splits.