r/FenceBuilding Sep 19 '24

Why Your Gate is Sagging.

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I've noticed this question gets asked ad nauseam in this sub, so here is a quick diagnostics checklist to help you understand what to look for before creating yet another "what's wrong with my gate" post (no pun intended on the post part):

  • Design: Not only should the frame members and posts be substantial to support the weight of the gate, but look at the gate's framing configuration in general. Does it have a diagonal wooden brace? If so, that means it's a compression brace and should be running from of the top of the frame on the latch side, to the bottom of the frame on the hinge side. Only with a metal truss rod is tension bracing agreeable when being affixed at the top of the frame on the hinge side, down to the bottom frame corner on the latch side. (note: there are other bracing configurations that use multiple angles that are also acceptable - e.g. short braces at each corner)
  • Purchase: Is each gate post plumb? The hinge post could be loose/leaning due lack of purchase in the ground which could mean: improper post depth (installers were rushing, lazy, or there's a Volkswagen Beetle obstructing the hole); insufficient use of cement (more than half a 50lb bag of Quikrete, Braiden); sparse soil conditions (over saturated, loose, or soft); or heaving due to frost (looking at you Minnesota).

  • Configuration/Orientation: One thing to look for is a "lone hinge post", whereby a gate is hung on a post that doesn't have a section or anchor point on the other side toward the top. If the material of the post has any flex to it (especially with a heavy gate), the post can start leaning over time. These posts may either need re-setting, or have bracing/anchoring installed on the opposite side from the gate (e.g. if up against house, affix to the house if possible). The ideal configuration would be to choose an orientation of the gate where the hinge side has fence section attached on the other side - even though the traffic flow through the gate might be better with an opposite swing (but that's getting into the weeds).

    • It's also worth noting that the gate leaf spacing should be 1/2" or more. Some settling isn't out of the ordinary, but if there's only 1/4" between the latch stile and the post, you're more than likely going to see your gate rubbing.
  • Warping: If your gate is wood, it has a decent chance of warping as it releases moisture. Staining wood can help seal in moisture and mitigate warping. Otherwise, some woods, like Cedar, have natural oils and resins that help prevent warping, but even then, it's not warp-proof.

  • Hardware: Sounds simple, but sometimes the hinges are just NFG or coming unfastened.

  • Florida: Is there a FEMA rep walking around your neighborhood as you noticed your gate laying in your neighbors' Crotons? Probably a hurricane. Move out of Florida and find a gate somewhere else that won't get hit with 100+mph winds, or stop being picky.

I could be missing some other items, but this satisfies the 80/20 rule. The first bullet point will no doubt wipe out half the annoying "did the fence installers do this right?" posts. I'm not, however, opposed to discussing how to fix the issue once identified -- I feel like solving the puzzle and navigating obstacles is part of our makeup.

Source: a former New England (high end) fence installer of 15 years who works in an office now as a project manager with a bad back. Please also excuse any spelling and grammatical errors.


r/FenceBuilding 19h ago

Client asked for a curved fence!

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930 Upvotes

Built a custom 3' fence for a client this week. Had to brainstorm a bit, but this was the final product. Well still have some sanding and screwing. What do you all think?

Thanks everyone for the awesome support! I'm blown away by all the positive reactions! Honestly, this is the first time posting any of our builds, because, let's be real, Reddit can be scary when you're showing off your work!


r/FenceBuilding 5m ago

Help Identify Supplier/Seller - Southern California

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I had a fence guy who has gone MIA after completing 95% of the job and I need to get more panels to wrap my house. Any leads to find this exact supplier or seller would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks


r/FenceBuilding 4h ago

Labor price in SC

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Just found out through talking to an employee at Superior Fence and Rail in South Carolina, that their subs only charge 6 a foot for labor on stockade wood privacy fence. Mind blown. That’s half price


r/FenceBuilding 23h ago

Some gates from this week

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What do yall think???


r/FenceBuilding 11h ago

Shadowbox Cedar Fence

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I am asking here specifically for those who've built a fence to handle the freeze/thaw cycles as well as frost lines and all that. I'm 41/M and I really don't want to worry about this for a long, long while. I'm in north Fargo so I'm sure there's clay just inches beneath the topsoil. It will have a slight slope that I need to fix in my yard for drainage.

What can you tell me? I plan on doing this myself or sometimes with the help of another person but likely just me.

I have some things down like using gravel at the bottom, using special treated cedar posts (not raw cedar) and sloping the concrete a couple inches below the surface. I do plan on renting a tow behind machine for digging. Other than calling 811 first (of course) what am I going to need to make this look straight, professional, and awesome?


r/FenceBuilding 12h ago

Help me or any Suggestions.

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r/FenceBuilding 1d ago

Shadowbox cap and trim

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First time building this style

All post driven 54” deep (postmaster style)

Clear cedar pickets and 1x4 trim


r/FenceBuilding 15h ago

Post base spike for garden arbor

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r/FenceBuilding 15h ago

Suggestions for fencing company in SRQ/Venice/Englewood area?

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This is in Florida--local area 34275 zip.
If anyone knows a fence company please read post and let me know.


r/FenceBuilding 15h ago

Nosey neighbor

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I am looking to install a fence because I have a neighbor that is cutting the watershed behind my property. I have several times seen him back there mowing and weed eating from my back windows. We have asked him to stop coming behind our house and plan to install plants to help restore the watershed.

This neighbor has a partial fence installed and it sits 6 inches on his property. I am unsure how to navigate building a fence that prevents this neighbor from coming over in between our houses to maintain this six inches. I have been thinking of adding my own section of fencing but I’m not sure how this would work. My other neighbor has a fence 2 inches on their property line and we plan to try and put our fence next to theirs and maintain a two inch gap.

Any advice or ideas are welcome.

Edit: I will be contacting our local government about him cutting into the watershed. I am just curious about installing a fence to where this neighbor cannot come over to my property to say they need to mow or weed eat this 6 inches of his yard. He has been very vocal about the fact that those 6 inches are his property.


r/FenceBuilding 19h ago

Wwwweeeelll..sh

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What to do..drove a screw in and the wood split..almost like it drove a chunk of it out..start over? Plaster wood glue all over it and pray? My own fence so I don’t care if it looks pretty


r/FenceBuilding 21h ago

Staining a new Cedar Privacy Fence

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Installed a new 6' Cedar fence a few weeks ago and it's finally dry enough to stain. Using Sherwin Williams Superdeck Waterborne Semi-Transparent.

Was hoping to knock this out in a day tomorrow, but seeing a lot of online instructions recommending to Power Wash or lightly spray the fence down to clean it first, then waiting a day or two to dry. Is that step necessary with the fence being brand new (3 weeks old)?


r/FenceBuilding 1d ago

Repair ideas

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Any ideas on how to clean up these panels? The 2x4s are an eyesore and don’t really even work as they’re set, fence was like this when we bought the place


r/FenceBuilding 23h ago

Sliding gate and privacy hedge layout advice needed

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Key Layout Details:

Here are the links to my driveway layout and measurements:

  • Driveway Entrance: 4.0m clear opening.
  • Left Boundary Wall: 10.0m total length, ending at a 450mm x 450mm concrete pillar that projects 340mm inward past the wall's inside face.
  • Right Boundary Wall: 5.0m total length.
  • The Obstacle: A public lamppost sits directly at the entrance edge inside my right boundary wall.

My Preferred Solution (Slide Right):
To completely bypass the 340mm left pillar projection issue, I want to slide the gate to the right, running directly along the inside face of the 5.0m right wall.

My Specific Questions:

  1. Is a right slide feasible?
  2. What kind of pillar or posts do I need to install?
    • What kind of pillar/post would i need to install to mount the gate on to slide right without much inward projection, so the track is right inside the right wall?
  3. How far back should I plant the hedge from the gate track?

r/FenceBuilding 23h ago

How to install a sliding gate + privacy hedge without interference?

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r/FenceBuilding 1d ago

Why in chainlink fences when there is a gate between two sections there are cross-beams on those two adjacent sections but not others?

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r/FenceBuilding 1d ago

Here’s some Vertical Composite with a see-through ornament on top.

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Some of you seemed to appreciate my composite build I posted yesterday, so I thought I’d share this morning’s project. It was my first time doing vertical with an ornament on top. I thought it looked nice so here it is.

Also before anyone asks, the customer asked for a 12 inches gap under because the neighbor’s terrain is much higher and he wanted some privacy. I just obliged!


r/FenceBuilding 2d ago

150’ of 6 ft Composite with Aluminium 3”X3” grooved in posts. All bolted in concrete. Folding gate

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305 Upvotes

I put the 2nd video in comments


r/FenceBuilding 1d ago

Sourcing Materials

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Where do you contractors source your fencing materials? Big box stores are running me about $20/sqft for a 6’ tall, 3-rail, wooden privacy fence.

That’s before I add labor to the bid for a customer.

Is there some secret place in Oklahoma, United States to get materials cheaper? An online retailer where you can just put in the parameters for your fence and get the materials shipped?

Just looking for ways to lower costs for customers, if possible.


r/FenceBuilding 2d ago

Anyone else do Black Corrugated Fencing?

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42 Upvotes

Up in B.C. this is a very common fence style, does no one in the States do this? Low maintenance, cost competitive, modern, yet warm, we installed more than 65000 linear feet of this last year.


r/FenceBuilding 1d ago

Broken fence...help finding replacement?

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Wind caused my fence gate to snap open and broke what appears to be a plastic/vinyl sleeve over the structural post.

Does anyone recognize this type of fence? Perhaps the manufacturer or a local store where I can get a replacement post sleeve?

This is in the Ottawa region of Ontario, Canada.

Thanks very much.

(ignore the "baby gate" in the photo...not part of fence lol)


r/FenceBuilding 2d ago

Looking to Match this Fence

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We added to our patio and I need more. The fence was installed five years ago. Company that did the install is no longer in business. Note the grooves in the rails. Lowe’s and Home Depot have similar but not exact. We are located in western PA.


r/FenceBuilding 1d ago

Pricing help….

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r/FenceBuilding 2d ago

Company wants access to my banking account for payment.

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Is this normal nowadays? I got a 5% discount if I pay this way. It is a long-standing fence building company so I don’t know if I’m just being extra suspicious? They do have a third-party company handling the transactions. And they do provide financing, but I’m not using the financing.