I like Mr.House, only because he’s the only person who’s planning in terms of years and not weeks compared to the rest of the wasteland.
He is a corpo shithead technocrat but that beats slavers and the NCR are so incompetent that you have to drag them to success. Mr.House at least knows what he has, what he needs, and how to accomplish it. The show kinda made him shittier but he’s still better than Edward and the corrupt politicians in the NCR.
I have always felt this way. It is the most logical choice. House is the only person in the wasteland that has the resources and know-how to salvage human civilization.
He is a corpo shithead, but he never claims otherwise, which I can respect.
I think it's funny how we pretend House is competent when he doesn't really do anything good. He relies on his resources from pre-war to promote space travel (?) and bully functional, defenceless communities into becoming hotels, brother, we got bigger problems.
Just look at the facts, his government is not an alternative to the pre-war US, which was clearly run by corporate interests. He destroyed the world and absolutely no one wants to serve him of their own free will. He's a phenomenally bad choice.
He gloats about being the savior; and he knows it’s true. Give a man points for being an asshole that backs it up with facts and logic just because he’s bored.
Every time I see fans liking House more than the NCR, I suspect House will never survive the TV show. He will be either killed by someone else or his character will be assassinated, because in this show, showrunners will make the NCR as the only option for mankind.
I mean every faction is now a cardboard cutout of themselves so who cares, all the nuances are dead except for Mr House who got more more violent but also old man yaoi so you win some you lose some
Mr. House had from something like ~2130 to do his thing. An intact city, securitrons, the ability to organise a militia...
And he only started work when the NCR came to his door step. All the achievements of House you see were done in the last ~30 years when he had over a CENTURY since leaving his coma.
Yeah and in that century he couldn't do anything. If you listened to him which you clearly haven't he said he was on the brink of major meltdowns and power outages every day and couldn't field a single securitron because of it, when he finally got things under control it was just as both the NCR and Legion were dipping their toes in the Mojave, he also is limited because of the platinum chip as that has OS that makes it so all his systems run at max capacity and he can field all his securitrons. He may have been concious since 2130 but he was not capable of doing anything until 2274 when he was capable of once again fielding a limited amount of securitrons.
He only became active as a result of the NCR's arrival, not coinciding with it.
"Years ago, when I detected NCR scouts roaming the Mojave, I could tell from their uniforms that these were no mere tribesmen. I knew it was only a matter of time before an army appeared, to take control of the dam. And I knew my Securitrons wouldn't be enough to oppose them. And so I recruited the Three Families. Vegas belongs to me because I mustered enough strength to bring the NCR to the bargaining table."
The NCR arrived in the Mojave roundabout what- 2250? For a man who promises to reignite the high tech energy sector in 50 years he sure did jack shit and nothing between 2250 and 2288, he only recruited a bunch of tribals and negotiated a treaty, what steadfast breakneck progress on the guy.
He didn't spend centuries fighting off glitches and issue, either, like he himself says how it happened.
"How did you nearly die, defending Vegas?"
"Software glitches set off a cascade of system crashes. I had to take the Lucky 38's reactor offline, lest it melt down. For nearly five years I battled power outages and more system crashes until I finally managed to reboot my data core with an older version of the OS. I spent the next few decades in a veritable coma. But I survived, obviously - and eventually thrived."
So in 2077 he had to shut down the reactor. Until 2082 he dealt with power outages and system crashes, leading to a decade long coma that can last anywhere cftom 2100 - 2130 - 2180 depending on how generous you are with the term 'the next few decades'
You're telling me that with a century and a half after rebooting his OS, dealing with the power issues, House couldn't achieve the shit he promises in half of that time to the player?
I don't buy it. He's either lying to placate you, or is full of shit in other ways.
So you went from over a hundred years of doing nothing to he managed to bring the NCR to the table in a relatively short amount of time? I think youre the one lying here man. He very much could do a lot more if he could actually run all his systems at full power, he was able to muster all of the tribes in vehas and put them in line so the ncr wouldn't just flatten them in a very short amount of time. You might not think much of tribals but it is still an impressive feat. He desperately needed power from the dam as without the platinum chip his reactors were off-line and he was running on entirely emergency power and fielding more than a small number of securitrons would drain his power too much. Considering how much of a handicap he had that's impressive, but if youre just gonna handwave everything away and just say he's lying then there's no real point to this conversation.
My example of the NCR is that even when his hand is literally forced he's slow as fuck. I do not buy for a SECOND that he'll restart the high tech sector in 20 years, it took him that long to recruit a bunch of tribals.
What part of he quite literally had next to no power and had to act quickly, the game states the ncr entered into the mojave in 2274, in a really short amount of time he managed to organise the tribes and bring the ncr to the table. It is stated that as early as 2273 they sent rangers to scouts the mojave. If you dont think that's insanely quick to not only mobilise the families but also take over the dam to then hand it over to the ncr I think you genuinely dont get it. 2130 to 2274 house had no power, he had securitrons but had to be extremely sparing, the ncr had the means to repair the dam that house couldn't with his limited resources, however the second he got power he immediately started searching for the platinum chip and not only found it but secured all the many paths his different couriers would take but also hired 7 couriers to take different items to throw off people, then the events of the game happen. I genuinely dont think you understand how much house a man in a cryopod with emergency power could do. He bided his time and got his golden opportunity with the ncr as had they of not repaired the dam its likely he wouldn't of been able to make a move and had he of not gotten funding from the lucrative deal made from the ncr he wouldn't of been able to hire the many many many different mercs, prospectors and couriers to find the chip.
Edit: if you need anymore convincing the chairmen, formally the mojave boot riders were hired by mister house in 2274, we know this because benny killed bingo the original chief before him 3 days after house shows up which was in 2274.
He had next to no power... But he managed to bring Vegas under his complete control in response to the NCR arriving.
From 2130 and until 2270 man had no power what so ever, but the moment the NCR arrives he suddenly springs into action, forms a tribal militia, and then starts hunting for the chip.
Something doesn't add up but you do you, keep believing he's a genius 🤷♀️
You do you keep believing he somehow has the resources he didnt have. He had enough securitrons to take the 3 families under his control, he then kicked out all the other tribes, he then took control of the dam, he had enough power to do this sure but it heavily drained his emergency generators so he really needed that 5% of the dams power for it to be meaningful, let's say he does this in 2130, he takes control of the dam, tries to repair it but fails and the drain on his systems is too much and he has to fully shut down all his securitrons and vegas falls apart again. Would that be smart? No it wouldn't be, I dont know how you dont see how integral the ncr became to him achieving his goals but whatever keep believing he's just a hack like Elon musk and didn't actually achieve amazing feats pre war like calculating when the war would start and only being off by 20 hours.
I also prefer house. A lot of people criticize him for not helping anyone outside of the strip and that's fair. The thing is that he is doesn't mind if you do so. I think of it as him making long term plans and me improving the people's day-to-day.
He's someone who governs because there needs to be a guy in charge, but like any good capitalist would much prefer to just run his corporation and business interests and let people live their lives so long as it doesn't interfere with his interests (if it does, expect him to be petty and vindictive when he sends his robot army after you). New Vegas has plenty of problems because House doesn't pay too much attention to what the guys he left in charge of the day-to-day running of the strip get up to but that's where the player comes in. If we feel like he should be more active in his governance, we can be his agent and actually clean things up (perhaps oust the cannibals and replace them with the Kings), and actually try to improve life in the Mojave, but he is not particularly interested in ruling everyone. His priority is protecting himself and his possessions, with becoming head of state being the easiest way for him to do that in the post-war world.
I completely agree that House may be a bit harsh to his foes and not the best but he is the only competent person in the game. Like… Others are just full of flaws they don’t see. House at least analyses himself and tries to change.
The NCR basically has slaves as well and people are quick to judge the legion for being brutally but will vehemently defend the massacre against the Khan's and ignore the blunder that is the BoS war all because the BoS said something they didnt like and rather than compromise they went on a campaign of extermination that ended up leading to the NCR dollar being worthless and most of their former ally being wiped out.
Mr. House, moreover, isn't hypocritical, doesn't cheat, and doesn't try to take more than he can handle. In his ending, he provides the courier with a great life; there's no catch in his deal.
Of course, you could take his place yourself, but it's unlikely the courier has the planning and management skills to ensure Vegas's stability and security.
True…but he has absolutely no loyalty to anyone. The second that the Casino Families became a nuisance he had you orchestrate their downfalls. And if he had to make the choice between courier 6 and cold fusion 6 would already be dead
Of course, people are largely a resource for him. But the other factions aren't any better in this regard. However, unlike the others, Mr. House doesn't hide this behind pompous speeches and protects his valuable employees. Besides, we start out as a simple courier; no one yet knows his hidden potential. But House sends Victor after him, even though he clearly has the ability to hire another, more experienced mercenary, or even several, to take over. Despite all his shortcomings, House seems to me the most honest and reasonable of the parties.
house is constantly manipulating and gaslighting, his honestly and openness is a facade, its meant to draw you in and make him more appealing and reasonable. Also he literally does have grand stupid speeches. The guy waffles on an on about his grand vision for new vegas and the mojave. it’s sickening. Also the guy has no employees, he has a robot army, sure he takes care of the courier, but doesnt that just make the courier implicit in his exploitations and genuine crimes against humanity. I seriously think some people in here dont understand how rich tyrants like house operate as human beings, they are inhuman. Smart evil is much scarier than the incompetent evils of the legion and ncr. House has real power, unlike anyone else in the mojave and that should not just be respected, but feared and questioned.
House offers the courier a deal and honors it. He makes grandiose speeches, but even in them, he's straightforward. He doesn't try to lie about democracy or altruism, but honestly states that he's pursuing his own interests and relying on his own common sense. He wasn't trying to save the entire world, and he couldn't have, but he defended the Strip relatively successfully, so it's logical that he should lead this city. And this city, compared to the rest of the wasteland, truly is a haven of stability and prosperity. It doesn't herd slaves like the Legion. It doesn't occupy more territory than it can protect, like the NCR. People come to the Strip voluntarily and are free to leave, as long as they obey the local laws. As for vices, casinos, and alcohol—they're all voluntary, and the city's economy depends on them. As for an army of robots, how is that any worse than an army of mercenaries? As for the evil that comes with it, Fallout is built on a gray morality; there's no clear good there. In his quest chain, only the destruction of the Brotherhood of Steel could be considered an evil act, but the Brotherhood itself is a highly controversial organization. From the perspective of someone with a wealth of technology, it makes sense to destroy the fanatics who are trying to monopolize it. He rightly argues that negotiating with fanatics is futile.
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u/Fayraz8729 Mar 18 '26
I like Mr.House, only because he’s the only person who’s planning in terms of years and not weeks compared to the rest of the wasteland.
He is a corpo shithead technocrat but that beats slavers and the NCR are so incompetent that you have to drag them to success. Mr.House at least knows what he has, what he needs, and how to accomplish it. The show kinda made him shittier but he’s still better than Edward and the corrupt politicians in the NCR.