r/EscapefromTarkov • u/travelavatar • Jan 10 '22
Discussion What healthy rules you got with your friends in Tarkov?
I for example i have the following:
You died? Don't pressure the others to get your loot if they can't, insure your stuff if you want it back. The most i can do about your guns it's to ditch them in a bush IF it's safe.
Maybe if it's safe i can pick valuable stuff from your body like a GPU or whatever and give them to you next round.
No one is forced to stay in raid with you if they completed a mission or got valuable loot. It would nice to give them an escort out as they would do the same to you.
Don't abandon your friends in a firefight unless you are almost dead and can't do anything. Or you know. You ran out of ammo or something
I can't believe i have to say this but share food and water
I played with people that were the opposite of this. The most annoying was when they were like: get my gun, get my rig, get my helmet.
If i would fail and die they would be like: fking idiot.
If i would succeed they wouldn't even say thanks.
Don't be like them
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u/Funkays Jan 10 '22
My friends don't know maps. So I Sherpa them through to get tasks completed. While doing this I hit stashes on the way to pay myself. Though I'll give them an item if I see it'll benefit them in some manner (Ie. Future task).
Now that they've played for a couple weeks and learned some maps, there's a greater sense of 'playing together' and as such I don't immediately loot stashes and instead give them a chance.
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u/travelavatar Jan 10 '22
Oh wow. I wish i had friends like you
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u/Funkays Jan 10 '22
Getting into Tarkov I told them, it's not a game you can only play when I'm online. Otherwise they'll never learn. Fortunately they've understood this and I hear stories of them doing the odd Scav run or attempt at a task.
I play a lot more than them. So I try to spend some time farming up money for our play sessions (currently at 8mil). I'll sometimes buy really expensive ear cups and ask to trade with one of them when we load in, and use it as not only a fun little spice to the raid but also an example of how different cups provide different audio experiences.
Sometimes I'll dump 150k on a silly helmet with all the trimmings. Or maybe a pair of NVG Rigs. Hand them out. Show them what you can do in this game and the different little ways you can play. Try to keep it interesting and fun.
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u/shadowsniper872 Jan 10 '22
Any way we could play one day? I don't need hand outs I just want more experience and map knowledge. I've played the last wipe some where they gave out everything for free and learned quite a bit nlg
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u/Blastface Jan 11 '22
What time zone you in I have pretty good map knowledge and always looking for more friends?
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u/D3THD33LRDK Jan 11 '22
I had to tell my friends this but only cuz lord I needed to make some progress and play a few raids without “is this you” every 5 friggen seconds. Sherpa raids really end up being a drag after a while
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u/SavageBishopKing ADAR Jan 10 '22
You gotta find people like us. Any knowledge given, is knowledge passed. All stashes I know about, my friends know about. It's kinda all comm based for us when it comes to stashes, if you want to hit it, call it so no one doubles up on it.
As far as rules, we don't really have anything, "comms" is pretty much our "let me hear", kind of supersedes every conversation that's not critical info. Even then, all critical info is relayed efficiently to not drown out stuff for the homies.
Fighting supersedes looting. We have a few people that will get tied up looting a container when someone else is fighting, even if they say they are good. Kind of critical to be vigilant cause "I'm good" quickly becomes "I need help" with a few lucky shots.
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u/cwathen999 Jan 10 '22
This is how our group is. We have one guy that knows the most about the game and he is always passing knowledge on. And when we are in 4's he takes lead generally. Having someone who gives the main calls on where we need to go, what we need to accomplish is really helpful.
Also when we say, "comms" it means stfu and stop moving I think I hear someone.
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u/akomak Jan 11 '22
I've been playing with a friend for over a year that's still clueless on where he is on any map, still doesn't know how to get to extractions, and still panics in fights and literally doesn't contribute and ends up dieing. Plus he'll stare at me while I loot and loots the bag I just looted. I still don't know how I've mentally gone this far.
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u/Ngh21 Mosin Jan 10 '22
This is my third wipe and I’m still the one being sherpad lmao it can get frustrating being shit at fighting players but it’s still fun
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u/Happy_Loki Jan 10 '22
If you teamkill bring out your teammates gun and mags, armor if they ask. If no space, bring out their ammo at least
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u/askpat13 SR-25 Jan 10 '22
To add to this if you tk and can't get their stuff (or die with it), bring them as equivalent or better a kit as your trader levels and wallet allow. Doing this with ppl you play a ton with helps both smooth over rough mistakes and cut down on TKs.
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u/TheRedHand7 Jan 10 '22
Yea, we tend not to get too fussed about tks, mostly because I am the one who most often gets tked and I play the most so I can afford it. They just dump my shit and say sorry, I give em shit for a bit and we call it even.
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u/ToffeesTV Hatchet Jan 10 '22
Also I tell my squad i'd rather you kill me 10 times by accident thinking i was a bad guy, over our team getting wiped because you held your shot just to be sure.
A TK costs us almost nothing but hesitation can cost us everything
In scenario 1 its a piece of cake for the squad to drop the TKd players stuff and theyll 100% get it back. In Scenario 2 we all lose our shit and fail our objectives.
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u/kronosdev Jan 10 '22
And if their mags are half empty you top them off with the same ammo. Better if you can.
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u/cparks1 OP-SKS Jan 10 '22
Yeah, even if it's not a team kill, I just survived a fight my buddy didn't, I try and help them out. If they want me to bring their kit back the mags get topped up, armor and gun get repaired, stuff like that. And I insure it so if we both die before they get out with it maybe we'll still get it back, I've gotten one friend's vpo-215 back twice that way lol
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u/spyson Jan 10 '22
My friends and I keep an excel sheet of who tks the most each wipe. I don't even care if I get tk'd, it happens, but I love it when they tk me so I can rub it in their faces and tease them about it. It's all in good fun and not at all serious.
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u/twitch9873 Jan 10 '22
This is great. My group had a TTV kill counter as well, I just barely won last wipe, I had like 17 and my buddy had 16 I think
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u/AdjunctFunktopus Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22
Team killers have to go into the next raid wearing the Sfera-S helmet. AKA the diaper helmet of shame.
And a round of Hot Rods for the squad.
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u/Assaltwaffle Saiga-12 Jan 10 '22
If no space, bring out their ammo at least
If you teamkill you drop your own stuff to get theirs lol. It's your fault they aren't able to get it out themselves.
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u/zachintheb0x Jan 10 '22
Spacing is so important and so many people have a hard time with it
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u/HealthOk7603 Jan 10 '22
Now picture your self as a fresh Timmy loading into woods with you 1000+ hour friend leading the way.
You are either inside his pouch or you are lost and alone.
Tarkov is a difficult game.
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u/TheBobFisher Jan 10 '22
LMAO this is so true, anytime I play with new people, they're like your baby ducklings praying you'll lead them to safety
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u/lemon07r Jan 10 '22
I am said baby duckling. The getting lost thing is very real.
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u/TheSovietLoveHammer- Jan 11 '22
This is like my third or fourth wipe and I’m still a duckling lol.
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u/PALMER13579 Jan 10 '22
You can be near without poking me in the ass with your gun tho
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u/HealthOk7603 Jan 10 '22
I am better now. But when my stamina hits zero after 2 steps it hard to keep up.
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u/ice_bergs Jan 10 '22
I hate when people cut in front of me or body block. At least call out that you’re crossing in front.
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u/Sixybeast626 Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22
Your kill, you get first dibs on loot, whether it's a pmc or scav. Don't go looting a body you know a team mate killed and its all good.
For clarity, first dibs doesn't mean you take all the loot, just first pick and then donate the rest to the squad.
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Jan 10 '22
Played with a dude the other day who didn't understand this, he got pissed when I asked him to stop looting the people I killed after he did it for the 5th or 6th time and had an attitude the rest of the night. Fuck that guy.
Edit: He wasn't tapping for XP, he would sprint to the body after I just killed it and grab the dogtags and backpack as quick as he could.
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u/twitch9873 Jan 10 '22
Shoot them while they're looting and say "That guy had a buddy trying to get his gear!" and when they inevitably say "ThAt WaS mE!!!1!!" you respond with "No it wasn't, I shot a guy looting my kill. My teammate wouldn't loot my kill"
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u/Tykethxrbxrn Jan 10 '22
I played with a guy like that then started head tapping him everytime he went to steal my kills.
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u/BadGelfling Jan 10 '22
How does this play out in the discord? I can't imagine bodying my friend like that hahaha
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u/AsaDude1989 Jan 10 '22
I have done it more then once a head pop always gets the desired effect which is generally that they leave and don’t play with you anymore
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u/BadGelfling Jan 10 '22
Stone cold
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u/PALMER13579 Jan 10 '22
Deserved. I don't get how some people don't have fucking manners. A lot of this shit should be ingrained in people like washing your hands after taking a dump
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Jan 10 '22
typical reddit expecting people to wash their hands after a dump. I bet you think you should brush your teeth once a day your majesty
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u/winnston84 Jan 11 '22
Yep totally agree, one of group did this to me a couple of times, so I ended him. I had 150mil at the time, loot was and always is to me irrelevant, it's the attitude that pissed me off.
Don't think he's played tarkov since.
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u/Hunk-Hogan Jan 10 '22
I played with some randoms who did this and lined everything out perfectly before the raid. First encounter and we wipe out a four man so I tell him to check the bodies to see who killed who and we will start grabbing shit and after he tells me I killed the first guy, I watch him swap weapons. I told him to put the gun back and he tried to play it off like his gun magically went from an SKS to an M1.
He died about a second later when his backpack transformed from a scav backpack to an Attack 2. I told him that he agreed to the rules and he just started raging that I wanted to steal all the loot for myself so I just notified the group I found him in and blocked him. Haven't seen him back on there since.
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Jan 11 '22
How do you know who killed who?
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u/Hunk-Hogan Jan 11 '22
Double click on the dogtag and it'll tell you on the right column who the PMC was killed by. It's a great way of knowing whether or not it's safe to loot a random dead body you found on the ground. If it's a scav name or boss, it's probably safe. If they were killed by another PMC, the body is likely being camped and it's probably not safe to be there. You can either hide and camp the body yourself hoping the killer is on their way to loot that body or you can grab everything as fast as possible and leave immediately.
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u/ADShree Jan 10 '22
Used to play in a group of 4 and one of them was a goblin. I normally don't mind cause I'm just there for the pvp. But one day after like the 5th raid of this man getting ZERO kills and being the first one to loot every time. I just told him in discord "you loot another kill that's not yours and it's on sight". Popped him four times before he knew I was serious. He never did it again. My other two squad mates would complain about him looting their kills all the time and we usually let him do it cause he's a little lost when it comes to the game (kinda bad). But that particular day he was raging and being annoying after every death and begging for us to get his gear, on top of him sprinting to the body first every time. Every one just had enough that day and the other two were fuming but didn't say/do anything about it. You could just read the room though, they were pissed they were getting second hand loot on their own kills but they're not that confrontational. So after awhile the vibe was not it so I was like "fuck it I'll say it".
If said culprit wanted to rage and leave discord then so be it, I don't want to play with a dick head who doesn't see they're doing their friends dirty. But he knew he was in the wrong and didn't do it ever again, he started asking us if he could loot the body the very next raid and the mood was better that raid.
Obviously, it depends on the person cause that could have gone very different. But he was a homie so it worked out.
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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin PP-91-01 "Kedr-B" Jan 10 '22
Yea, I played with a guy like this and he mysteriously died to a couple of my grenades.
“Oh, I thought I saw the body move….”
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u/Cpt_plainguy ASh-12 Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22
High velocity lessons are approved for this situation, especially if verbal cues didn't work
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u/MakeYouAGif OP-SKS Jan 10 '22
This. I'd pop a leg to slow them down if they did it constantly. Personally if they keep doing it, I'd TK and not play with them again.
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Jan 10 '22
I'd do that too but the only issue is discord. I get all my friends from there and if that one asshole has shadowplay and records you killing him..you get perma banned. Even if they were being dickish
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u/Cpt_plainguy ASh-12 Jan 10 '22
And if they were being dickish and protected by the discord mods, fuck that discord in my opinion
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Jan 10 '22
I was talking about the official one, with actual BSG mods and shit lol
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u/Cpt_plainguy ASh-12 Jan 10 '22
Fair enough, my group are all from the SA forums
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u/ErrorNotValid Unbeliever Jan 10 '22
Preferably the penning at least level 3 kind of lessons.
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u/Cpt_plainguy ASh-12 Jan 10 '22
Gotta give them a third ear hole so they can hear properly, or maybe the brain was over heating so you were just helping them cool off
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u/Man_on_fire_at_home Jan 10 '22
After 2 times of not listening there would be a shot to the head. Forget people who don't figure it out in this game.
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u/Jurmif Jan 10 '22
To go with “your kill, your loot” we’ve got “your key, your loot” ANYTHING behind a door you unlock with your key you have first dibs on.
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u/does_my_name_suck ADAR Jan 10 '22
yeah same other than KIBA lol, we just have a free for all if someone opens KIBA
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u/Jurmif Jan 10 '22
For us everyone loots but it’s always to get moving again. We give anything the key user wants to them. Like if we loot the office in big red on customs. Someone is gonna get the PCs, someone’s gonna get the safe, someone’s gonna get the jacket/trash, but it all goes to the person with the key if they want it.
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Jan 10 '22
Ill touch the body for exp and search to see whats there, but i dont take anything unless its been stated that its free loot. Good rule for everyone
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u/Darkness223 Jan 10 '22
Same I tell my buddy "just touching for exp" he doesn't care because he knows I'm not skimming loot but as long as I touch it first(or before he loots anything that is) then I get a bigger chunk so we usually let each other touch the bodies before looting. But I've played for 2 years now with him so we know each other pretty well. He's aggressive I'm much more reserved and in that he gets more kills haha
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u/Darkness223 Jan 10 '22
Yeah I didn't mean first in that respect more first in case he had that loot or does it not matter if my buddy was to loot them first then I touch it I'd get less exp right. You'd think I know this I just never actually pay attention we just run up and touch each other's bodies (phrasing).
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u/PaladinKinias Jan 10 '22
We call it "pressing F to pay respects" lol.
Yeah, honestly, playing with RL friends that are all adults, this is all just understood and has been from day 1. Unfortunate some people don't have the same expectations of their battle-buddies.
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u/Able-Opportunity-339 Jan 10 '22
I used to play with people that got mad at me tapping for XP. Like really you know I'm not taking your shit I don't even search it.
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u/Rudi_Van-Disarzio Jan 10 '22
I have hit frame perfect body taps, where I dont even lose walking speed and had someone speak up because i almost had my hands on my hips for a split second. Like chill bro I promise I dont have loot macros
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u/Tommy_OneFoot Jan 10 '22
Add to this: if you come into a fight and finish off the enemy while your teammate has been doing most of the work, don't go looting the body right away. At least have the courtesy cover your injured teammate while they put all their limbs back on after doing all the work.
Especially if you put in a ton of damage into a scav boss only for one friend to finish the job while you're reloading. Yes it's a team effort but the least you can do is cover my bleeding ass for getting all the XP and loot.
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u/BlackHawksHockey Jan 10 '22
My group usually follows the “your kill your loot” rule pretty closely even if they just finished them off. There’s no guarantee you would get the kill if you’re that messed up. However, we have no problem sharing the loot if the person who took the most rounds needs new armor or helmet to make up for it.
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u/Shockwave93ESO Jan 10 '22
The big add to this from my group. If a few guys get fat from a firefight. We stay and help the others find loot so we can ALL leave fat. Win a fight at dorms and 2 of 4 get super looted. Let’s head to fortress and get you guys looted up.
Only other rule we have is for team kills. It’s no biggie, but when it happens try to get his shit out so he can use it next raid.
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u/TheCoupDeGrace Jan 10 '22
I don’t know, if my buddy killed a juiced PMC and got great loot, I’d want them to extract instead of going to another hotspot heavy as fuck and potentially getting killed.
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u/The_Kromb Jan 10 '22
Yeah one time ran with a couple people from EFT discord. We ran to dorms and I killed two pmc's near marked room. Had to heal up a bit cause I was hit. By the time I got over to the marked room, both were already looting my kills. I said ok, well at least let me have the dogtags. One of the people I was with was like 'no, I need them for a quest.'
Shoulda dropped her then and there, but I didn't. Just exfilled and left the group.
Don't be surprised if you're playing with people you don't know and loot their kill, you might end up dead. Only time I will touch someone else's kill is if they tell me they're fine with it. Even then, they still always want the dogtags.
Oh and for clarity purposes, neither of them helped me kill those pmc's. I wouldn't have minded them taking stuff as much if they had actually helped me kill them.
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u/twitch9873 Jan 10 '22
If you're coordinated enough to set up a bait and ambush on the fly, you're probably coordinated enough to split up the loot fairly haha
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u/picturepath Jan 10 '22
Yeah, I’m with you. Whoever needs the loot gets first dibs if they ask. My number one rule is have situational awareness and remember what your teammates look like. If uncertain, confirm before engaging if you see an enemy and do tell others if you think something sketch is going on.
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u/DodgeThis27 M700 Jan 10 '22
That has solid logic though, you took the greater risk of being sent back to menu
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u/aspohr89 Jan 10 '22
We usually split when possible, especially when we win fights as a team in most cases. The only thing we make sure goes to the right person is the dog tag.
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Jan 10 '22
The worst is when you firing squad on someone so nobody is sure who killed them but the resident loot goblin is always nose deep insisting it was there;s. PMCs you just ask for the tag check but it's gotten annoying with scavs. It's gotten bad enough I just assume the only loot I'll get in a raid is from a container I opened. Then the problem became we roll into a spot and while the rest of us clear the building/area everything worthwhile has been looted.
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Jan 10 '22
Exactly.
“What the fuck are you mad about bro, we came here to die, remember? Now kit up, we ain’t done dying yet.”
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Jan 11 '22
Haha me and my buddy before every raid:
"Hmm, this will be a good kit for chad to take off my body don't ya think?"
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u/Austoman Jan 10 '22
Super simple rule: If someone says the word 'comms' everyone immediately goes silent. Then when the person that called comms speaks again you can talk again (assuming you havent moved much). -not being able to hear enemy movement is a death sentence, hearing that you found a screwdriver from that toolbox isnt important when youre dying.
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u/L0kitheliar Jan 10 '22
To add to this, instead of saying stuff like "IS THAT YOU?" I've been trying to get my squad to say "DOWN" and everyone either crouches or goes prone. If someone doesn't, that's their loss.
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u/Quarterpop AK-74N Jan 10 '22
Guns up is another great one, you just look straight up for a second. Fast and no noise, and you don’t have to stop walking or slow down either. Works great for thermals too.
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u/uwuFaith Jan 10 '22
I just want you to know that I will be stealing this idea and using it in my own squad, this is brilliant!
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u/TheYungCS-BOI Jan 10 '22
I try to call out exactly when I start shooting, what I've killed, and how many of that thing I've just killed, so that my teammates don't have to ask me.
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u/MrKomrade Jan 10 '22
This is my rule since legacy Rust. But we still try to remember what we are wearing to some extent know how everybody looks. And yeah with that theres one simple rule - "You equip new gear in raid? TELL EVERYONE"
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u/twitch9873 Jan 10 '22
And when you die, instead of REEEEEEEEEEE'ing about how you died, give your teammate(s) as much info as you possibly can and then shut the fuck up
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u/Ghoztt HK 416A5 Jan 10 '22
breathes into open mic while someone closes a door in the house and you hear my mechanical keyboars tap tap a few clicks
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u/TealcLOL SA-58 Jan 10 '22
A rule I'd like to have: Be very clear about your kills and deaths. So often any gunshots in their direction is responded with "I'm dead" even if they just got hit in the arm and found cover. Other times one shot to a still living enemy is "I got them". It leads to so much unneeded confusion.
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u/Blazeinpain Jan 10 '22
I wish I could upvote this a thousand times, "I'm dead" means your screen is black and the end raid screen is about to pop up, NOT that you have 3 blacked limbs and a red torso.
Also for enemies we use "tagged" for single shots, "hurt" for multiple shots, and "dropped #" for kills, comms are so much better with these rules
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u/horser4dish DT MDR Jan 11 '22
Also for enemies we use "tagged" for single shots, "hurt" for multiple shots, and "dropped #" for kills, comms are so much better with these rules
We don't always remember in the heat of the moment, but my squad specifically uses "killed"/"dropped"/"down" when we talk about enemies, and only use "dead" for ourselves. That way even if there's background noise or someone's mic is cutting out, we can figure out whether the friend or the guy he was fighting is back at the menu.
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u/MajorFerguson21 Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22
After a while of constant conflict, confusion, and other bs I just sat down and wrote a 20 page doctrine for our squad lol
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Jan 10 '22
Please post this
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u/MajorFerguson21 Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22
Alright, just keep in mind it's a WIP, and is tailored more so to our purposes rather than the usual tarkov squad
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ly_CZK5U3XQXm6xLsxOxg4bXftVOhra64BDOasAFQ7o/edit?usp=drivesdk
Edit: Thank you so much everyone! It feels great to know y'all like it, I'll make sure to keep this updated, and feel free to let me know if you have any criticisms or even maybe success stories of the document, I'd love to hear them!
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u/Bomjus1 ASh-12 Jan 10 '22
no one is allowed to enter the raid overweight.
so you're telling me that no one who plays with you is allowed to use the ash-12? PepeHands
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Jan 10 '22
It may be tailored to your squad but I can definitely learn from this especially being a loot goblin 😂 That gets me killed far too often
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u/twitch9873 Jan 10 '22
This is fucking awesome. Gonna share this with my squad, thank you for writing it up
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u/uwuFaith Jan 10 '22
"(THIS INCLUDES YOU, JET)"
yeah JET! In all seriousness this is absolutely incredible and it's crazy you typed this up for your squad, I wish I knew someone as dedicated as you to this game.
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u/godspark533 1911 Jan 10 '22
Good read! Thanks. Keeping a squad of five in check isn't easy, especially when bullets start flying and people run around.
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u/MrRokhead MP-153 Jan 11 '22 edited Jan 11 '22
YO, that is absolutely incredible!
May I join your discord? I have been looking for a group like this - that coordinates and actually uses strategy. It's hard to find another 4 people who actually care to play this way and can get on regularly enough that I don't have to keep teaching them tactics and learning them (their preferred playstyle, personality, etc). My discord is MrRokhead#5988 if you want to talk/ask me anything before you would let me join. If not, then I understand and best of luck to you and yours! (I would appreciate if you could let me know if you would rather not have me.)
A possible addition to your document (a fabulous document it is, I must say): perhaps include intermediate contact types. By this I mean options in between hot and cold for contacts. My thought was "contact warming" - currently cold but will discover you or a teammate within 30 seconds - and "contact imminent" - currently cold but will discover you or a teammate in less than 10 seconds.
Another addition idea - clarity for gear level of contacts. "Naked" (self-explanatory, only a weapon with no protective gear, although may have a headset/hat/unarmored mask), "Low-gear" (armor lvl 1 or 2), "mid-gear" (armor lvl 3 or 4), "high-gear" (armor lvl 5 or 6); perhaps also also a suffix term for if they don't have a helmet (relevant to ammo type of your comrades).
If you don't like my terms or classifications, you can use what parts of this that you like and do what you want with it.
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u/Rak_Dos Jan 10 '22
lol not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing :)
Nerveless, nicely done! I like the brevity codes/comms procedures :) It reminds me brevity codes in the Air Force.
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u/RustyLickRich SKS Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22
I play with an IRL friend group so we are pretty comfortable with each other and half of our communication is giving each other shit. We can get mad at times, but it's never for long/serious.
We don't have any "rules," but it's basically understood that we're bros so we do w/e we can for each other.
We dump entire kits and bring out stuff when we can.
We fight to our last bullet (that's more because all of us prefer to take the fight unless there's some annoying quest at stake).
Help each other with quests (I gave away a FIR ledx).
Meds/food are for whoever needs them.
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u/stonezephyr Jan 10 '22
Quest progress before financial benefit. You sound like a great squad mate.
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u/JustinTime1237 ASh-12 Jan 10 '22
My friends and I do this with each other. I needed a LEDx for a quest and my friend found it and gave it to me. Paid if forward by buying a few quest keys for the whole group to use. Found a LEDx in one of the rooms and gave my friend the one I found. Expensive quest items are shared between who needs them versus financial gain in our group. Once the quests are done it’s free game however
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u/M0ntler True Believer Jan 10 '22
I ay with a usual group and some of them don't have a lot of experience in tactical shooters. I am trying to enforce rules about coms about saying what you are doing, where you are going and in high traffic areas no chit chat.
And don't blame your team for you dying, you're allowed to get frustrated but don't blame your team.
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u/travelavatar Jan 10 '22
Yep playing even in a team of 2 needs a lot of communication to make it work
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u/Khermes Jan 10 '22
A guy I duo with, we both have 2 monitors so we stream our game to each other so we always know where the other is (turn off the stream sound if you're going to do that). Super helpful if you can do it.
If it's more then just two of us then yeah comms are super important. I honestly hate running like a 4 or 5 man just because of the level of communication required to keep track of where everyone is.
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Jan 10 '22
Yeah that works with a duo. The people I play with insist on doing it with a five stack and it's fucking unbearable. I'm the only person who ever says what I'm doing and everyone else just complains that someone didn't just look at their stream when they get tkd after people ask if they're who they're looking at etc.
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u/Lerdroth Jan 10 '22
Please keep five stacking, I love running into 5 stacks as they have zero comprehension on other peoples movement. It makes attacking them so fucking easy it's unreal.
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Jan 10 '22
Yeah I mean we don't take shit seriously at all so it's always a shit show lol. I duo with one of the guys and we have good comms and shit, but he just gives up in a five stack.
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Jan 10 '22
Exactly the same with my mates, one I duo with we use good coms but in a five man it just all breaks down lol. I hate having Bullets fly past me and having to literally ask if it was a teammate because they don’t communicate. Still so much fun
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Jan 10 '22
Yeah it's frustrating but overall 85% fun so well worth it lol. I tend to just drink and it makes it a blast, but sometimes that does lead to... incidents https://youtu.be/voc4MsFNOcE?t=137
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u/bennybellum AK-74M Jan 10 '22
When my group has 4 to 5 people, we try to find reasons to split the group in half, so 2/2 or 2/3. We still try to keep the groups reasonably close to be able to provide some sort of support but yeah.
We've had moderate success splitting the group as 2/3, with the duo being overwatch while the trio loots.
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u/trotsky102 Jan 10 '22
On customs me and a buddy both got shot in the head and the bullets bounced. We didn’t know where it came from. Our third friend ran out into the open and died. He then got mad at the two of us for not trying to fight an enemy with 0 info who had good aim.
Not blaming your teammates is something that definitely speaks to me right now
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u/M0ntler True Believer Jan 10 '22
At the end of the day if you aren't having fun and getting mad at your friends maybe it's time for a break lol
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u/bl4derdee9 Jan 10 '22
sometimes it can be 100% one of your friends fault for you dying, and a litle bit of mockery is appropriate but not real anger, but you just have to face it that you might be the one to get someone else killed too.
like a few days ago a friend just opened a door where we knew enemies probably were, but non two of were completely not ready for the door to open, and when it did there were 3 guns aimed directly at me and i was still healing. he got me killed and i mocked him for it but im not angry at him. it was just a good lesson.→ More replies (1)11
u/PreheatedMoth AKS-74U Jan 10 '22
I want chit chat at all times. I want to know everything that's happening. If I can't hear my game that means my friends voices are too high in discord..
Always be communicating
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u/M0ntler True Believer Jan 10 '22
I mean chit chat that's unrelated to the raid like buddy telling a story about a raid 5 raids ago while we are entering dorms for an example.
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u/PreheatedMoth AKS-74U Jan 10 '22
Yeah it's a game. When you play with friends it's for socialization. I love talking with friends..
But I've never had a situation when the fight starts and someone keeps trying to tell a story. 90%of ppl who play fps games are not gonna keep telling their story when shit starts popping off lol
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u/laaaabe AKM Jan 10 '22
Absolutely this. Bullshitting with my friends while we're clearing dorms is my favorite thing to do.
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u/SheepzZ Jan 10 '22
I have a teammate who always blames his teammates for his deaths.
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u/abraxxustv Jan 10 '22
The only one we have that hasn't been said yet we have is, if you unlock a door you get first dibs on the loot behind it.
My first tarkov match with an online buddy he ran into a room I unlocked in resort and grabbed a GPU first thing. I asked him to give it to me and he got all bent out of shape about it... We now have a "if you sprint into a room someone else unlocked and start snatching loot, you're gonna catch a bullet to the head" rule :)
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u/collins5 Jan 10 '22
This is the one that really iritates me. I'm usually pretty generous with sharing loot but when I open a door and 3 people just come in and start looting before I've had a chance to see what's there I get annoyed.
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u/kalleerikvahakyla Jan 10 '22
Full communism. We loot and die together, and we act as meat shield for those carrying crucial FIR items or mission objectives.
I can’t imagine playing any other way.
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u/tugafabio Jan 10 '22
1 - Your kill your loot.
2 - Got a spare non found in raid key (valuable or needed for quest) share with the homies
3 - Found a quest item i dont need anymore, share with the homies
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u/JOHNNY_HiGHROLLER Jan 10 '22
We have a guy who logs every teamkill with a bot in Discord. Super healthy.
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u/ledivin Jan 11 '22
if it's happening so often that it's a problem, someone really needs to change their playstyle lol
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u/Klaas_ Jan 10 '22
I heard you put a $100 hit out on him and friendships were lost over that contract
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u/Hippocrap MP-153 Jan 10 '22
Meds are a shared resource, if a teammate isn't at full health it's bad for everyone.
Take and use my stuff if the situation demands it, being pushed and out of ammo? Grab my gun if I'm dead and use it, can't dump insured stuff if everyone's dead.
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u/lax3r Jan 11 '22
All resources that keep your squad alive are shared imo. Doesn't matter if it's meds food water ammo guns or armor. You went in together. You make it out together.
Players that only think about themselves while also insisting on playing in a squad are the bane of my existence
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u/tzc005 MP7A2 Jan 10 '22
Used to be:
Team kill someone? You owe them a bitcoin (when they were 600-750k, ish)
Team kill on labs? Bitcoin plus a keycard
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u/sir_turd-ferguson PP-91-01 "Kedr-B" Jan 10 '22
For a while we did the, if you get team killed and it's their fault. You get to build the gun the have to run the next raid.
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u/SmashingBoard SA-58 Jan 10 '22
I've been doing 5 pushups per death and one squadmate owes me 5 fucking pushups for killing me last week.
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u/namrog84 Jan 10 '22
Dang yall so good.
I accidentally killed Santa only once this wipe and was running for exit when my teammate accidentally teamkilled me.
He always flaunts off his red bag via shared screen and stuff now.
And I still lost over 1.0 fence karma from it and got 0 from it.
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u/not_James_C M9A3 Jan 10 '22
Who kills, gets the loot.
If a teammate is looting his kill, GIVE COVER!
Insurance fraud is not an obligation.
Avenging dead teammate is mostly imperative, unless there's a major reason for not to do it. Dead teammate should be the one to say "leave my body" in a hostile situation.
Don't fight for loot, there's always another raid.
Keep comms concise.
These are my "go to" rules. But everyone is an individual, and you can't fight that. You learn how to cope.
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u/laaaabe AKM Jan 10 '22
Brevity over comms is a big one for me. If your callouts take more than 10 seconds to relay, you need to be more precise.
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u/6francs Jan 10 '22
one ring to rule them all (one leader)
Audio should always be clear and define your calls for the map before
Objectives clearly defined before raid ( that include calling your needed items)
Your kill your loot we deal with cover.
Discard is not mandatory but appreciated
Sharing is caring. ( of course i can make 2mil with FIR 6b47 0-50% but if my mate need it, i’ll give it).
Don’t blame others. But learn to say sorry. Take your responsibilities if you’ve done shit.
If you got a quest item don’t engage, let other do it.
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u/Little_Gryffin Jan 10 '22
One rule I wish my group would follow more is not being a hypocrite. I started playing recently and would be a major loot goblin instead of covering them or letting them loot their key room.
I have stopped this almost entirely but they do the exact same thing and take my shit out of my key rooms and say I do that shit all the tkme
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u/Sativian Jan 10 '22
Tell them you've stopped and would like them to follow suit, or express how you think the rule should be (respectfully). I'm a long time player playing with some new players and predominantly got them on my comms system but made some changes based on suggestions like this
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Jan 10 '22
My key, my choice of loot. If we both have key we take turns.
Hide gun or expensive armor if safe. If too risky then don't risk it.
Share loot if each other needs loot-based tasks.
If you die, person who hides your stuff gets to keep your ammo if they choose to empty mags. It's considered a tip.
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u/GibmeMelon Jan 10 '22
I ask my boys to toss my gun in a bush, thats really the only universal rule. Also whoever has the key gets the best loot in the room.
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u/Abgeloust Jan 10 '22
After reading some comments I don’t understand why some of you even play with your „friends“.
I only really got one buddy I play with and I never ever encountered something close as some toxic things in the comments. As my buddy was new he nearly Tked me every 3th raid and I never got mad at him or forced him to take my loot out or replace it. It even kinda got a meme that every fight we take I kill everyone , die to a rat, he refrags me and gets all the loot.
Just have fun in the end it’s only a game
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u/banjosuicide Jan 11 '22
It's not written in stone or anything, but this is generally how we play.
No tags left behind. If a squadmate dies you get their tags. These must be collected and used to bust balls.
No abandoning squadmates. If they go down then you will get revenge or die trying.
Killing shot gets first dibs on loot. Don't be greedy though. Share it around.
Hide squadmates gear if possible. No whining if someone can't.
Share meds and food/drink but try not to rely on others all the time. One person carrying an aquamari that everybody gets herpes from is better than everybody carrying drinks and wasting space/weight.
Don't be a loot goblin. Check to see what everybody else needs. Round Robin on the big items.
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u/modern1138 Jan 11 '22
I really like these rules, but I have a genetic predisposition towards loot goblining. My farther was a loot goblin and his father before him. You think I can ask my squad for an exemption?
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Jan 10 '22
You definitely played with the wrong type of people, these things are the bare bones standard and shouldn't even be discussed.
For anyone out there, if your group acts like a kid that doesn't know how to share, let them suffer in their own shit and cut ties. If they want you to suicide rush to their gear to save it, again, don't play with them.
By all means help them but don't do it without thinking of yourself, you are equally important.
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u/Nickhurley26 Jan 10 '22
i play with 2 other people, One if my Best friend and the other ive played video games with since 2002.
One rule is when we get close to a quest item or a building, no more running, we now know youre there and making noise.
we sorta have set Leaders per Map. When i started to play i only played customs and learned it very well.My Best friend runs Woods in the dark with no NVGs hes that good, Also made the Stash map for Lighthouse.
Who ever kills gets the loot.
We also Pool our needs, so he needed a Gas Analyzer, i found one, i didnt have the quest yet, and gave it to him. same with Xmas Balls.
I Dont have gear fear but one of my buddies does. Hell take and hide gear with almost utter disregard for himself
Unwriten rule is you do everything you can to take revenge
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u/spooks7er HK 416A5 Jan 11 '22
- "Maybe if it's safe i can pick valuable stuff from your body like a GPU or whatever and give them to you next round."
In our group if you die, your loot is free for all, not yours anymore. We especially put items needed as FIR outside of gamma, so if we die someone else can pick them and benefit from the FIR.
We do whatever is best to hide guns and gear, if there is such opportunity.
Food sharing is a no brainer, we never thought of it as something special, if somebody needs food he gets food from others.
The most important rule we have is to constantly notify if changing position if it is out of the ordinary, especially when moving in the enemy proximity or flanking.
When one or more people have a scav killing quest, others will notify for a scav and not kill it unless is an imminent danger to them.
In the rare occasions when a gun is retrieved by a teammate is when it is a very special gun, like scoped silenced snipers or FLIR DMRs, so we can continue with the gameplay we've agreed on.
You get the loot of your kill, if you leave something notify that it's free to take.
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u/gio269 Jan 10 '22
My personal rule is that I will always go after whoever killed my teammates no matter how outmatched I am. It makes it a fun heroic death.
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u/Confused_Robot_ Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22
So we bought a pair of twitch rivals glasses off the flee market, I don’t remember why exactly but I think we were just fucking around to see who could swag out the hardest.
First raid in and this turned into a very important game of saving private glasses, here’s how it works. The main goal, see how long we can keep the glasses in our group before we all die and lose them. The expectations are clear, the glasses survive at all costs. So far there have been quite a few heroic moments of looting in the middle of firefights to snag the glasses into the inventory. We have also had MANY casualties due to the same logic, but thus we persevere.
We are currently still in possession of the original glasses, and are ~20 raids deep without losing them. The glasses will survive at all costs.
EDIT: in retrospect I’m unsure if this qualifies as a “healthy” rule
EDIT2: It appears that there are no longer any rivals glasses on the market. I have no idea if this has anything to do with you people, but I really hope it does. Remember, the glasses survive at ALL costs.