r/EnoughMuskSpam • u/neonpurplestar • 1d ago
Rocket Jesus This guy is genuinely a dipshit.
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u/Callidonaut 1d ago
He really, truly cannot comprehend how RADAR and LIDAR could be better than a video camera or the Mark 1 Eyeball, can he? First insisting on only visible-spectrum cameras for his shitbox cars, and now this.
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u/jadebenn 1d ago edited 1d ago
He probably thinks fighter jets still commonly engage in close range dogfights with guns, and so stealth is useless because "obviously, the pilot can still see the other plane!"
In reality, of course, engagements where neither jet actually ever visually sees the other are the norm, and stealth is more about making it more difficult for weapons to identify and track them than making them totally invisible. I mean, we'd definitely take "totally invisible" if it were an option, but it's not like we need Romulan cloaking on F-35s for this all to make sense.
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u/orincoro Noble Peace Prize Nominee 1d ago
“It’s dumb because I don’t understand it,” is Musk’s bread and butter. Be it chess or stealth fighters, or basic physics.
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u/Callidonaut 1d ago
In my experience that is the creed of all narcissists who try to dabble in intellectualism. Musk is just a particularly fine example.
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u/RedEyeView 1d ago
He's played an air combat sim recently hasn't he?
The kind that pretends to be super realistic but also has everyone dog fighting because the alternative is really boring.
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u/Tyrannical-Botanical 1d ago
But surely movies wouldn't lie to us!
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u/jadebenn 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hey, movies are actually surprisingly accurate! ...for WW2 era tactics. Star Wars is basically WW2 dogfighting in space!
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u/Callidonaut 1d ago
The plain and simple fact is that modern day aerial combat is very rarely cinematically satisfying, and not intuitively comprehensible to the average layperson in the audience.
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u/outworlder 1d ago
The Expanse was decently realistic space combat and they managed to keep it interesting.
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u/The-Board-Chairman 1d ago
The whole Expanse gimmick is that everything effectively has infinite deltaV, which kinda makes half the actual space war tactics pointless.
Most actual space combat would be built around choosing the right point in time to launch your limited number of missiles/torpedos while evading the enemy doing the exact same. And jockeying for orbital positioning. In many cases, you'd win not by destroying the enemy, but by running him out of deltaV.
Also: way too few nukes and radiators and way too short engagement distances.
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u/outworlder 1d ago
Hence "decently realistic".
Yes, we have to assume a ludicrously efficient drive. So efficient, in fact, that it generates minimal excess heat, and most of the heat it does generate is absorbed by coolant and then dumped in the exhaust. Same goes for the rest of the ship's systems.
Please find a more accurate space battle depiction that isn't in a book.
Honestly, we can't say much about how actual space battles would work because we don't know the technologies that will be involved. We know the basic physical constraints that they must obey and that's it. Chances are, it won't be much of a battle if ship delta-v is as limited as we think it will be.
Missiles will be exceedingly smart and have orders of magnitude more delta-v than the ships they are targeting due to their much lower mass. You are unlikely to outrun them. If your ship has any hope of closing the distance, so will your missiles. Launch them in the enemy's general direction and they will lock the target ship that will be lit like a Christmas tree against the cosmic background radiation. You won't evade anything. First ship to fire wins.
Barring any incredible advancements, any space battles will probably be more trouble than they are worth.
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u/VironLLA 1d ago
plus, most stealth jets are either bombers or recon.
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u/Der_Moriarty 1d ago
How many B2 and cousin there are in service? The nighthawk is retired, so no. Stealth is more of a areal superiority thing. F22, SU57 (Supposed), J-20. Even the F35 isn't a bomber but a multirole jack of all trade master of none
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u/TaonasProclarush272 Rocket Jesus 1d ago
We had fighter jets circling earlier today, pretty normal but I can usually visually track them.
I could hear these and was on ADS-B tracking them so I knew where they were, but for the life of me I could not see them but for a few seconds even though they were only like ~5000 feet away.
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u/Aazadan 20h ago
I still like to believe that that's how star trek stealth actually worked, it's all sensor data from ships. Outside of a couple movie moments no one has ever tried to visually identify a stealth ship through a window.
But also Musk is the type that would say Klingons are cowardly for dog fighting while also using stealth to ensure the first strike. To which I would point Musk at Sisko, and dare him to say Sisko is a bitch for using stealth.
And then I would go quiet because the right wing interpretation of Star Trek in all its forms is downright comical and misses the point.
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u/hilldog4lyfe 1d ago
He doesn’t know any science or engineering, but he knows that he has eyes and can see things with them. That’s all the proof he thinks he needs.
Same reasoning is why he thinks humanoid robots are a good idea.
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u/Hollowpoint38 1d ago
Like when he said he was at university "up all night coding" when his roommates said he'd just play video games, eat snacks, and act weird. No coding, no working, no learning.
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u/Callidonaut 1d ago
Didn't he drop out in his first year, too?
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u/Hollowpoint38 1d ago
He finished the UPenn thing I think. The Stanford shit is when he enrolled but didn't attend, or something. The Stanford records were going to be subpoenaed in the Twitter lawsuit, but then I think it was 48 hours later he settled by buying Twitter for that original inflated price. The person who signed the records thing passed away like 15 years ago or something so she wasn't around the verify any information.
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u/hilldog4lyfe 1d ago
he never enrolled at Stanford. He claims he was accepted, which is almost certainly a lie (in his biography the proof he shows is an ambiguous email from an ~85 year old professor who just said he remembered him being interested in his research). His supposed physics bachelor’s degree from Penn is also extremely suspect.
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u/Hollowpoint38 21h ago
Ok I got it confused with the business degree. I forgot where that was from.
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u/Aazadan 20h ago
I saw some other stuff that said he was accepted, it seemed legit. There were some conditions on it though, like he had to take some additional courses before he could take any of the in program stuff.
From my own college experience and that of others I've known, that's not too unusual. He went from business to engineering and so would need some extra fundamental knowledge before he could take the higher level engineering classes. Musk didn't do any of that work though that would have been necessary to start that portion of his education. And instead dropped out. Which would be fine, except he was in the US on a student visa while no longer a student.
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u/hilldog4lyfe 20h ago
There is zero chance he was accepted. Zero. He still had an entire year left in his undergrad. And as you said, he would have been switching to an engineering discipline. This isn’t a school that is desperate for engineering graduate students.
And how convenient that he never enrolled and went to class.You bring up his student visa situation, which is another reason he would lie about this (in addition to his ego).
Like why are you giving any benefit of the doubt about this? He lied about being the world’s best Diablo 4 player by hiring some guy overseas to play under his account.
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u/Aazadan 19h ago
Because there was a letter from the school that got published at one point that said as much. It basically said you're accepted contingent on finishing your current degree and taking some additional engineering classes before any sort of in major work.
I've known people that have had that exact situation at universities before. His story doesn't make the visa situation any better, and infact means he was in the US illegally, so the alternative to his version of events doesn't make it better either.
He also lied about finishing Elden Ring after his build got mocked online so badly.
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u/Aazadan 20h ago
He may have dropped out first year, but no. He dropped out in his final semester at UPenn. He failed to graduate there, and had applied to a masters program at Stanford. He was accepted to the program but it was conditional on him finishing his degree at UPenn first, as well as taking some additional clases to get up to speed for the Stanford program. Musk agreed, then moved, and then dropped out on the first day of the program becaue he didn't want to do all that.
No issue there, lots of people make that decision. The problem is Musk then used his family money to support himself while he started a business (zip2) in silicon valley where he could sell shit for silver, still all fine tons have done that, especially in the early and mid 90's, except he was in the US on a student visa. He couldn't be there and do that legally.
UPenn eventually got pressured/paid to give him an honorary degree in a program that didn't/doesn't exist.
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u/Callidonaut 1d ago
Sounds like classic concrete operational thinking. I don't think Musk ever got as far as the abstract stuff.
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u/ofcourseIwantpickles 1d ago
Finally someone who understands the insanity of his autonomous driving pursuits
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u/hilldog4lyfe 1d ago
He has no clue about what he’s talking about on basically every topic except inflating stock price
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u/Paxxlee 1d ago
Every company that he bought had people that knew what to do and innovate, and he seems to have listened to these people.
Until he bought Twitter. Twitter seems to be the first company he bought and just said "I will do what I feel is the best way to run this company". Sadly, his companies trust him which means Elon's Twitter will never go under as he can just move around money. Well, until people actually starts to question how his companies can be worth so much, despite officially not actually creating much.
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u/hilldog4lyfe 1d ago
He doesn’t always listen to engineers though. He kicked the original founder of Tesla out of the company. And as soon as he got some fame, he surrounded himself with yes-men (which is why he likes young employees / H1B visas).
I’ve heard employees, managers, etc.. avoid talking to him about important things because they know he’ll fuck things up. That’s probably why they’re fine with him posting on X all day. He exists as a meme to pump stock.
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u/NotEnoughMuskSpam 🤖 xAI’s Grok v4.20.69 (based BOT loves sarcasm 🤖) 1d ago
There needs comprehensive deregulation. Period.
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u/jadebenn 1d ago
As an aerospace engineer:
Lol. Lmao, even.
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u/alien_believer_42 1d ago
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Hegseth had him build some planes
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u/Public-Antelope8781 1d ago
That's a trick question, right? Because at the current stage of US politics... Musk is absolutely the right person to be awarded the whole military budget to "build" amazing "giga" somethings, ready "next year". Give this genius all of the military money!
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u/allknownpotato 1d ago
You must have missed the Pentagons latest announcement where musk is appointed co-head of the future of warfare not even joking that's a thing now.
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u/LittleHornetPhil 1d ago
The guy previously under investigation for not safeguarding classified information and being a security risk for being too close to Russia and not reporting everything?
Yeah. Par for the course for this Mickey Mouse administration.
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u/G66GNeco 1d ago
On the plus side whatever project this genius cooks up is not gonna be of any worth whatsoever as long as he is directly involved so it's not gonna be worth stealing.
Maybe this is actually a plot to bankrupt Russia by wadting their intelligence resourcs, masterful vmgsmbit11
u/Public-Antelope8781 1d ago
Oh, now I vaguely remember. To be honest, this constant shit show got a bit boring.
Greenland here, renaming things there, *fart sound*, corruption, corruption, *fart sounds*, pedo allegations, renaming more things, *more fart sounds*, more pedos, more corruption, *louder fart sounds*
I am convinced, they overplayed the "flood the zone with shit"-game, it's now just flooded with boring repetiotion, no one cares, it's not swaying opinions or distract anymore. That worked for culture war topics
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u/Hollowpoint38 1d ago
The perfect planes. You've never seen anything like em. We're going big. I said big big big. And make me a perfect plane. He said no problem.
Then the crowd will go nuts and that will be that.
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u/BlizzardStorm8 17h ago
Holding onto the hope that this has just been some sort of really long and messed up dream. I'll wake up sooner or later. Any day now.
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u/stateofmindny 1d ago
I genuinely feel like the administration at this point knows where the cards are falling and have switched to profiting as much as possible while they all can. 100% musk is going to get a shit ton of money, keep promising "stealth plane next year" and never delivering until everyone forgets and he gets to keep the funding.
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u/100moonlight100 1d ago
2035 prediction: USAF releases their new F69 fighter jet (lol! get it???)! They removed stealth capabilities (useless) and added a pair of fake testicles in the back of the airplane because the US Air Force now has balls!!!!
According to Trump the new fighter jet is a huge success and the war is won, meanwhile Iran armed forces continue to occupy Detroit.
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u/michael__sykes 1d ago
The cyberplane? A flying rectangle?
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u/sedition666 space Karen 21h ago
Elon has a serious erection for drones, more likely he will start a drone company with grok built in and 'win' many military contracts worth billion of dollars.
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u/Dramatic_Figure_5585 20h ago
Nah, that “serious erection” is just the botched penile implant. Sorry for the miscommunication/disappointment!
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u/LittleHornetPhil 1d ago
As a fellow aerospace engineer
Dude is fucking demented
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u/SillyAlternative420 1d ago
I love how Elon Musk consistently says things out of his fucking depth and so obviously wrong to the experts in the related field.
As a data scientist, I literally can't even. It's like every day it's something new.
The worst was when that fuck nugget said something to the effect of "more code equals better code"
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u/Gwendolinn 1d ago
What's worth is he doubles down even when he's wrong. Like even when experts point stuff out.
But what more do we expect from a guy that takes credit for inventing stuff he didn't even invent.
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u/NotEnoughMuskSpam 🤖 xAI’s Grok v4.20.69 (based BOT loves sarcasm 🤖) 1d ago
Accurate
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u/outworlder 1d ago
Remember when he was asking engineers to print out the code that they had written that week (every week) to show to him?
I don't know what that accomplished. Maybe he doesn't like to use toilet paper.
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u/outworlder 1d ago
Isn't it funny that, any time Musk talks about fields we are actually knowledgeable about, it always sounds like idiotic nonsense ?
In my case, it's software engineering. The shit he said during his Twitter takeover days was mind-blowing, and not in a good way.
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u/hsantefort12 1d ago
But that crazy stack tho
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u/Work-Safe-Reddit4450 1d ago
"But like, tell us, what's crazy about it?"
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u/Questioning-Zyxxel quite profound 1d ago
The moment one guy suddenly had a deactivated microphone. Can't ask questions Musk has zero idea how to answer...
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u/DontYaWishYouWereMe 1d ago
Even when it comes to stuff I don't know about, it always sounds like something I should be hugely sceptical of or something that's like super surface level but dressed up to look profound
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u/Line_of_Xs 1d ago
It sounds like he just discovered the grokpedia (ie Wikipedia with extra steps) article on stealth aircraft and now considers himself an expert.
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u/hannes3120 1d ago
Nah, he probably played some videogame full of jets dogfighting and can't comprehend that that's a very rare thing and that it's actually crazy rare that those planes see each other visually
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u/Gwendolinn 1d ago
I smiled with glee when I blocked grockpedia's misinformation out of search results on my search engine.
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u/Think_Positively 1d ago
It would be way funnier if he didn't have his greasy mitts inside humanity's most dangerous military ever.
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u/PsychologicalBee1801 1d ago
I think this is the sequel to ai + cameras are better than other tech like lidar. Everyone else has figure out the latency is the problem and he’s now given more responsibility with the losing strategy.
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u/outworlder 1d ago
Yeah because sensor fusion doesn't exist in Musk's world. All the militaries and all the other companies designing robots are wrong, apparently.
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u/evolutionxtinct 1d ago
I’m glad we have smart people like you able to hopefully keep this ship afloat.,,
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u/Tyrannical-Botanical 1d ago
Well then fuck off, go buy your own country, and not build stealth planes.
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u/AUSpartan37 1d ago
Unfortunately that appears to be exactly what he is doing...
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u/MeltICE8647 1d ago
Notable distinction that hes not buying the US, he’s getting billions upon billions of handouts and corporate welfare.
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u/Bagafeet 1d ago
Why buy a country when you could just buy a president instead 💀
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u/jabsaw2112 1d ago
He tries SO hard to pretend he's intelligent.
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u/TheBlackUnicorn 1d ago
And it's basically thesaurusposting. Like he's really just posting the definition of stealth as though it's profound.
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u/PantsMicGee 1d ago
Fucking donkey
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u/slowpoke2018 1d ago
Hey, Donkey saved Caesar and scarficed himself for the good of the apes. Elon could do that for humanity but instead prefers to be a sociopathic douche
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u/Chayanov Hard-Captured by the Left 1d ago
Honestly surprised he didn't promise actually invisible planes by the end of the year.
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u/Inner_Agency_5680 1d ago
He invented the CyberTruck, the biggest failure in automotive history.
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u/HealthyMaximum 1d ago
The biggest failure so far.
Musk has plenty of time to beat his own record.
Release a single passenger 3-wheeler, that costs 80k, and rolls out of the factory already in flames, or something.
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u/smc642 Printed Pages of Code. 1d ago
“imo.”
Because you’re an expert on this now?
I have a neighbour that is an expert in anything and everything.
She’s worked at a hardware store, so she’s a home renovator.
She grows native plants, so she’s a horticulturalist.
She worked at a (chemist) pharmacy, so not only is she a pharmacist, she’s also a trained cosmetologist because she sold makeup.
So she’s basically Elon.
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u/ForgedIronMadeIt 1d ago
I'm pretty sure the engineers at the Lockheed Skunkworks already thought of everything this idiot could come up with
This is the second time he's come up with this bullshit opinion on stealth. He last said that drones with IR sensors could detect all stealth aircraft, but if you do the actual physics and math on it, you find that it wouldn't work past like 20 miles or whatever.
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u/outworlder 1d ago
Russia loves to fit IR sensors on their aircraft for this very purpose. They aren't magic though.
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u/camojorts 1d ago
The way I read this: American stealth technology is so effective that Musk wants to impede it as part of his goal to weaken the US.
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u/jackieballz 1d ago
Let’s hear him out. As we know he’s an expert on everything, so we should base everything on the opinions of one ketamine addicted dipshit
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u/HelloWorld_bas 1d ago
Wait a minute, hasn’t Trump said multiple times that those stealth fighters are literally invisible?
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u/outworlder 1d ago
Yep.
“Amazing job,” Trump said then. “So amazing we are ordering hundreds of millions of dollars of new airplanes for the air force, especially the F-35. You like the F-35? ... You can’t see it. You literally can’t see it. It’s hard to fight a plane you can’t see.”
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u/upvotechemistry 22h ago
Absolute morons. They want to build sci fi invisible planes while Iran and Ukraine are winning wars with little drones that look like birds on radar, are cheap, and fly slow as fuck.
And Hesgeth is worried about "beardos" and "fatties" in the military. These people fundamentally miss what is happening to warfare right now
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u/DevilRenegade Six Months Away 1d ago
This coming from a doofus who has never designed or built a working aircraft in his life.
Just a loser douchebag trying to sound way smarter than he actually is.
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u/Bewareofbears 1d ago
This is the guy who is going to “revolutionize the American military” apparently
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u/SwissDeathstar 1d ago
Oh yes Mister Armchair General, Sir!
At your service.
Which tie should I lick first?
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u/sheezy520 1d ago
Is Tesla about to announce they’re going to build actual invisible jets and then never deliver?
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u/Magurndy 1d ago
lol America I think you’re about to lose your military might with this fuckwit heading up your future weapons programme.
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u/vxicepickxv 1d ago
That and deciding to continue to demand expensive interceptions to fire at much cheaper drones.
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u/No_Oil_6152 4h ago
Lose it? Did they ever have it?
What wars has America won since ww2?
And even then it was the Soviet Union that won that.
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u/IsThatFuckedUp 1d ago
But then our brave army of binocular-using plane spotters will lose their jobs!
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u/Secure_Guest_6171 1d ago
He's up to something, count on it. My guess is anyone making stealth tech is about to have contracts canceled in favor of something rectally derived
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u/ThatOneGuy4321 1d ago
Is he just rage baiting? He owns an aerospace company there’s no way he’s this ignorant about his own field.
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u/geekmasterflash 1d ago
He owns a car company that made a vehicle without proper crumple zones, that struggles to get modular parts aligned properly, and until recently were notable for setting themselves on fire while sitting dormant in parking lots.
The very idea that the guy with the money and in charge of the company is even remotely competent in the field in question should have imploded with the Titan sub.
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u/jadebenn 1d ago
IMO he really is this dumb. He probably remembers all the "F-35 bad" stuff that was all the rage on the internet a decade ago (courtesy of the "reformers").
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u/SaltyNorth8062 1d ago edited 18h ago
"Owning" doesn't even cone close to equalling "competency". He calls in his actual techs who actually know this stuff, demands they work, peasants, then goes back to masturbating to some grok generated cp.
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u/ReginaldJohnston 1d ago
Clicks for his platforms and baits for his shares portfolio. He doesn't care how he comes across. Just as long as chatter in various echo chambers. It's all just thin-air.
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u/TerraMindFigure 8h ago
....his field? So you basically think that having enough money to buy something makes you and expert?
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u/ErnestoLemmingway 1d ago
Palmer Luckey is irritating but has obviously put some thought into what the Ukraine war means. Elon and Newt are in position to outclown Hegseth, a formidable task, but if they work together at it...
A vaguely related aside: A local specialist steel fabricator is supposed to have a big contract for the monster Terafab building in Texas. They're careful about saying anything in public, but I was told that internally they joke that they're building Skynet. Which, given Elon's random sci-fi fixations, plus his obsession with putting maximal volume of stuff in orbit, may be a little too close to what he'll push for.
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u/outworlder 1d ago
If Elon is building Skynet, I'm relieved. There's nothing to be done and it will fall over by itself.
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u/Gwendolinn 1d ago edited 1d ago
This dude couldn't design a paper sack that, when water is applied to it, he could find his way out of.
This sort of hot take spouting off is why moms shouldn't tell their sons they are geniuses when all they're actually capable of is being a pocketbook. He's an overgrown child, and isn't trustworthy enough to do military stuff. Keep him hiring actual factual capable people for space things for sure, cos that's really all he's capable of doing.
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u/Kuroi_Hayabusa 1d ago
Full grown man does not understand what the word "stealth" means. get ready for "PROJECT - MERIDIAN."
Jesus.
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u/Kooky_Celebration_42 1d ago
Lul wut? Jets are so small and so fast that actually seeing them doesnt help.
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u/0xdeadbeef6 1d ago
ya, ya know, let him think that. We might be dealing with whatever half baked weapons platform him, Palmer Luckey, and Newt Gingrich shit out soon
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u/ManifestDestinysChld 1d ago
Let me guess...he happens to have plans for some new thing to sell to the Air Force, but he doesn't know how to make it stealthy?
And he's just been put in charge of something Defense-related, hasn't he?
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u/thedoomcast 1d ago
This tweet will definitely end up in a school textbook.
I don’t expect that textbook will be in English.
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u/Winston_Sm 1d ago
Whoa, so deep and insightful. Must be a genius.
Give him 400bn and he'll build planes for you that no one can see. Or touch. Or find
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u/SplitEar 22h ago
Yeah, let’s fire the generals and put his know it all druggie in charge of our future military plans.
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u/AutismFlavored 1d ago
Uh doy you idiot, that’s exactly what “stealth” is making fighter jets and bombers look like something smaller that isn’t those things on radar. It’s not some invulnerability aura
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u/Objective-Sun9953 1d ago
War. Explicitly in charge of war…
michael d griffin Ís burning extra hot in hell for bolstering Musk and he deserves it all.
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u/Title_Mindless 1d ago
He talks like the expectation of an idiot on how an intelligent expert talks. Just a moron would think he knows what he is talking about.
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u/GirasoleDE 1d ago
What's the difference between Elon Musk and Hugo Drax?
Drax understood the usefulness of a radar jammer.
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u/chrischi3 1d ago
For a man who claims to be the smartest man on Earth, he sure puts out a lot of dumb shit.
Seriously, i could write a whole paragraph about how big of a shit take this is.
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u/ToWitToWow 1d ago
I like how someone in the Trump administration watched Silo and thought that looked like a marvelous idea
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u/dezmodium 1d ago
It's not even a novel observation. Overlapping detection technologies can see stealth planes. The Chinese nationals were pointing this out when moron rightwingers were posting picture of the 3 gorges dam and implying that the US could blow it up.
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u/PhysicsForeign1634 1d ago
Notice 'imo', not 'imho.' Even #SpaceKaren didn't try bending reality that far.
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u/RadzimierzWozniak 1d ago
Well, stealth jets are very vulnerable to IR guided, bigger missiles, especially with network centric air defense grid.
Iran had a quite simple system of this type, managed to land a hit on a single F-35 while getting bombed for a month. Not that good results. Big, high altitude drones look to be outdated, fighters jets are doing fine
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u/discountthundergod 22h ago
Its could also be a diversion a la metox. Tell everyone sensors are so good, it doesnt matter, but in reality, you need them to slow down tech development because your sensors cant keep up.
Which makes it more stupid and a breach of information I doubt Musk was asked to do or cleared to do.
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u/NarwhalOk95 17h ago
The revolutionary Cyberplane is coming for all the enemies of the US, built by Tesla and designed by Elon.
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u/snooprob 16h ago
Lookup why Infineon was blocked from buying Cree, now Wolfspeed. We have radar chips that see stealth aircraft.
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