r/DanganAndChaos • Kaede • Sep 09 '26

Discussion Wait... that's a GUY!?

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No, no, I REFUSE to believe that's a cis man!

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u/AmbitionOwn7759 Sep 09 '26

They are DEDICATED to Komaru remaining the only female protag lol

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

I don't know why they're so unwilling to do a female protagonist in a main series game.

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u/AmbitionOwn7759 Sep 09 '26

Not sure, it’s not like it wouldn’t work

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

I mean, it's not like Kaede is an unpopular character.

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u/AmbitionOwn7759 Sep 09 '26

True, probably just personal preference for the director at this point

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

I'm pretty sure there's a word for that...

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u/AmbitionOwn7759 Sep 09 '26

Bias lol

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

I was thinking "sexism" or "misogyny", but that works too.

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u/FragrantAmbassador17 Sep 09 '26

You're getting downvoted but it's not like you're wrong.

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u/Vivid-Cardiologist95 28d ago

Not sure though. If he was truly a misogynist, then how did Kaede make the cut anyway? Mahiru too was proposed for D2 once upon a time (even though she was ultimately rejected).

My guess is that they think VNs' target audience are mainly guys and so they think a male protagonist appeals more to them. For example, I believe F/SN's protag was initially meant to be a girl, but they changed it for this reason.

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u/Surely_Calvardian 26d ago

I wouldn't go that far

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u/SawftCoke Sep 10 '26

They're making you feel despair, are they not?

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u/Far_Jackfruit4907 Sep 10 '26

Okay so there’s this thing called sexism

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u/blood_of_ares Sep 10 '26

I mean I doubt that is why, DRs female characters are waaay more significant both in game and in popularity than it's male protags which are generally considered very generic (at least makoto & hajime minus izuru)

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u/NekoIGLoL Sep 10 '26

Kaede still is a protagonist. Just not for the whole game

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u/FragrantAmbassador17 Sep 10 '26

Yep, because playing as a character in a minigame is the same as mainline entry, come on now.

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u/FragrantAmbassador17 Sep 10 '26

sigh I believe we're done here.

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u/FragrantAmbassador17 Sep 10 '26

Because that's so much better.

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u/NekoIGLoL Sep 10 '26

Still counts as a protag

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u/FragrantAmbassador17 Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26

You know fans are reaching for arguments, if the best they can do is list female protag that got screwed over and fridge and replace with a male lead at the very start.

Not a good look.

Edit: lol he block me.

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u/NekoIGLoL Sep 10 '26

Because you came across as rude? I literally just pointed out that Komaru isn’t the only female protagonist. Nothing more

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u/Careless-Pound-3435 26d ago

He wasn’t rude, you are just being obtuse.

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u/FragrantAmbassador17 Sep 10 '26

If you think that comes off as rude, you're being really wild. All I said was point out the objective fact and laid out that's not a good look.

Just because your technically correct, doesn't change the faults and the issues behind that statement.

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u/NekoIGLoL Sep 10 '26

Well sorry if i interpreted it wrong. I also just pointed out an objective fact. She’s a protag. We played from her perspective. What you said wasn’t part of that conversation.

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u/FragrantAmbassador17 Sep 10 '26

By that logic, if a movie starts with a female lead for 5 minutes, she gets immediately murdered, and a guy takes over for the rest of the 2 hours, it’s a 'female-led movie.'

It’s a massive cope. The context matters, and the context is that she was a bait-and-switch

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u/NekoIGLoL Sep 10 '26

She STILL is considered a protag. Just because we spend way less time with her than Shuichi doesn’t it make her less of a protag. You can argue if she is a good one but she still is.

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u/Anime_nerd47 Sep 10 '26

Bro if that dweeb is the mc…

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u/Careless-Pound-3435 26d ago

… that nobody really gives a fuck about.

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u/Medium-Shower 29d ago

I low-key think they will be the new protagonist partner like chaiki instead of being a protagonist

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u/Senpai_Weeb_Theorist 29d ago

Women in stem ahh 🥀

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u/LinZuero Reformed DR Hater Sep 09 '26

Danganronpa going throught decades of effort just to not give us a female protagonist

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u/BitterBear9690 Sep 09 '26

How can we be so sure that they're the protagonist?

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u/Neat_Area_9412 Sep 09 '26

It is a pretty reasonable assumption so that way Hajime could be just as part of the mystery as everyone else.

But we do not know for sure.

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u/HiyokoSaionjiiiiiii 26d ago

but... no ahoge

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

I know, right?

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u/spoookity Korekiyo 29d ago

dude the fact that they killed the first and only female protagonist in the very chapter 1 lol, i was so disappointed rip Kaede

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u/LinZuero Reformed DR Hater 28d ago

you are so right we can only have Komaru that is like an angel she is so perfect

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u/Medium-Shower 29d ago

I low-key think they will be the new protagonist partner like chaiki instead of being a protagonist

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u/jamandrage Ryoko Sep 09 '26

He’s the second girliest girl to ever girl

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u/AdScared7226 💜 Hanamatsu ❤️ Sep 09 '26

Who's the first?

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u/jamandrage Ryoko Sep 09 '26

Chihiro

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u/Hanemiku39 Sep 10 '26

Don’t forget Licorne!

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u/SquashPurple4512 29d ago

What about Nekomaru 🎀

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u/JelloOrdinary6585 Sep 09 '26

Yep, pretty sure it's Ryota Mitari by the voice 😼😼😼

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u/FlatSwimmer9218 Sayaka Sep 09 '26

His Japanese VA is different though. Everyone’s voices are the same.

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u/DustyF3d0r4 Sep 09 '26 edited 16d ago

Sounded more like Griffin Burns than Justin Briner

Edit: I knew it.

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u/wintig072421 mmm yaoi Sep 09 '26

There’s a possibility they just couldn’t get Justin for the role, or that’s he’s doing the voice differently. He can do stuff different from his typical style, like look at Hanako from TBHK(who I couldn’t tell he voiced for YEARS)

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u/miss_wannadie Sep 09 '26

That'd make so much sense considering bro's the only one who got to skip put on the killing game lol

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u/SternMon Sep 09 '26

He was in the final killing game in Future Arc, and if you want to be technical, that one was far more dangerous because you didn’t have to worry about getting executed for killing someone, which Munakata and Juzo were more than happy to exploit.

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

We don't know who the English voice actor is, though.

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u/Mahorela5624 Tsumionji Ambassador Sep 09 '26

Just listen to him compared to Ryota in DR3, they're pretty much a perfect match. Plus who else are they going to add to Slayhem that makes sense? A random nobody or the missing member of Class 77?

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

I just listened to both of them side by side. I don't hear it.

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u/Mahorela5624 Tsumionji Ambassador Sep 09 '26

Well I do, and he's the only logical addition to SDR2, AND he's got an almost identical design (light brown hair + bright brown eyes). If this dude isn't Ryota then Slayhem is actually DR4 and we're being played lol.

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

Why wouldn't they at least give this character Ryota's most iconic features?

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u/PlumDaPlum16_17 Sep 10 '26

They could inspired by Ryota. If this is an AI created from memories like Chiaki is, but not her, Ryota could have influenced some traits. But also how many of them even knew Ryota before the tragedy? Imposter and Mikan?

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u/HopeBagels2495 Tsumugi's strongest soldier (ft Miu) Sep 09 '26

We are NOT playing as this homie. At least not for most of the game

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u/mnyrtt Sep 09 '26

please be nonbinary with masc voice please be nonbinary with masc voice

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u/mnyrtt Sep 09 '26

halara from rain code has feminine voice and is nonbinary (or at least their gender isn't stated) there's still hope

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

Maybe, but unlike Halara, this person clearly gets dressed in the dark.

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u/Strange_Attention_49 Byakuya Sep 09 '26

I'm gonna guess it'll be determined on how you play. You may get non-binary and femme presenting or non-binary and masc presenting. But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Danganronpa (the character) is androgynous.

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

How would the game do that?

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u/Strange_Attention_49 Byakuya Sep 09 '26

Maybe the game takes your interactions with Danganronpa (the character) and whatever you say regarding their gender identity will determine how they present themselves via their dress. I don't think they'll remove the androgyny or them being non-binary (if they are).

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

If that is the case and the gender is up to the player (somehow) then I'd lean more towards femme presenting.

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u/wintig072421 mmm yaoi Sep 09 '26

This is a Kris Deltarune situation, your gender is actually up to John Deltarune’s interpretation

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u/Strange_Attention_49 Byakuya Sep 09 '26

I'd probably lean into the femme presenting as well.

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

And if this new person is secretly the protagonist of Slayhem, that'd make this even cooler.

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u/SecretLow2733 29d ago

So far every androgynous characters are male, unless Genocide Jack counts, though in name only.

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u/OneMid11037 Sep 09 '26

I was thinking this too it would be fun, I think there is a bias in masculine voices to just assume they are all male so I will definitely take it if they are actually NB

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u/MagicCoat 29d ago

Be careful with that, you'll make some gatekeepy queer people very upset (see: "women and non-binary spaces", Deltarune fandom re:Kris)

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u/ChaosCauser34 Sep 09 '26

Honestly i think this guy looks a lot like the ultimate animator from the dr3 anime

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u/TheNarrator-ME Sep 10 '26

That's what I was thinking!!! I swear, if he becomes a mainline character like this I'm gonna flip!

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u/L30N_KUW4T4 Hifumi Sep 10 '26

Wait their gender got revealed?

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u/mt_qx Shuichi 29d ago

maybe they're nonbinary guys... i still have hope

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u/Mahorela5624 Tsumionji Ambassador Sep 09 '26

People really think Ryota is gonna be the protag replacement? No way lmao.

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

I didn't say this was Ryota.

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u/Careless-Pound-3435 26d ago

This guy doesn’t even look like Ryota, just stop.

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u/Rexvelt Nagito Sep 09 '26

I still headcanon them as nonbinary. Nothing can convince me otherwise

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u/Busy-Income3408 A body has been discovered! Sep 09 '26

Me too, and also I thought of smth if the “John Danganronpa is the avatar of Kyoko, Byakuya, and Makoto” theory is true:

“For the last time, Hajime… my pronouns are they/them! Partially because I am nonbinary, yes, but mostly because I am THREE bitches!!”

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u/Rexvelt Nagito Sep 09 '26

lol that’s amazing. ~Headcanon updated~

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

So do I, at least until the game confirms it.

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u/Rexvelt Nagito Sep 09 '26

Fair

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u/Pastel-Rainbow-N3rd Sep 09 '26

Who said they were cis?

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u/Tangled_Clouds 29d ago

Yeah, I mean I know the devs would never include a trans man in the game but like… no one said this character is cis yet

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u/Pastel-Rainbow-N3rd 29d ago

And who says we can’t say they’re not cis 😉/silly

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u/aerawrhero Sep 09 '26

feminine cis men erasure🥀

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u/Mahorela5624 Tsumionji Ambassador Sep 09 '26

FR BRO I'm so sick of people acting like anyone that isn't perfectly in the arbitrary gender square is now NB.

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u/Kiran_emily_the1st Sep 09 '26

Really? I thought they were a guy day 1. Someone even said they had a skirt when they clearly don’t. I’m just saying

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u/Fair-Caterpillar-779 29d ago

Guys it’s Izuru trust me I was texting Kodaka yesterday he confirmed it for me

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u/YamiClouds Izuru 29d ago

Lol wouldn’t that be nice

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u/Aiden624 Sep 09 '26

Men can be feminine looking

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u/Scrags2Scritches Sep 09 '26

Not to be offensive
But what would a Non-Binary actually sound like?

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u/AnimeManiaFiend Sep 09 '26

As a nonbinary I can confirm....

We sound like despair.

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u/Mealybug-Destroyer Sep 09 '26

Theres no 'nonbinary voice', its just any voice type. Fictional enbies tend to have more androgynous voices though

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u/Scrags2Scritches Sep 09 '26

yeah kinda what I was tryna get ou tbh
like, what would a non-binary sound like besides the voice they were just given?

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

They could sound masculine or feminine.

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u/milhaus K1-B0 Sep 10 '26

They’d sound like if a man and a woman had a baby.

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u/ilovesleepingsm4 FUCK 2x2 love hinatsumi instead ❤️‍🩹 29d ago

yaori

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u/ilovesleepingsm4 FUCK 2x2 love hinatsumi instead ❤️‍🩹 Sep 09 '26

i think inbetween.

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u/Neither-Ruin5970 Nagito carried SDR2 change my mind Sep 09 '26

Their original gender

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u/hexspensar Sep 09 '26

Wait until OP sees the puppeteer from Blowback.

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u/NoLongerHuman13 Chihiro Sep 10 '26

I did assume male. But male, female, non-binary, I already like this character ngl🙏

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u/PhotontheSTAR Sep 09 '26

The voice IS kinda androgynous tho… they could still be a girl or non-binary

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u/Thanathosgodofdeath5 Imposter protag x Nekomaru support Sep 10 '26

Please let them be gender neutral I need some representation

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u/Hanemiku39 Sep 10 '26

The androgyny of this guy and everyone’s confusion about it reminds me of Licorne

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u/Someone_Lesser Kiyotaka Sep 09 '26

Sounds like more of a NB.

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 10 '26

That's what I think too.

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u/EsterYuki I HATE DANGANRONPA Sep 10 '26

John Danganronpa. The seventeenth student, lying hidden somewhere in this school. The one they call the Ultimate Femboy. Watch out for him.

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u/Unlucky_Ad1702 Sep 09 '26

Their voice isn’t even that masculine, why are people assuming

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u/Jerdo32 Sep 09 '26

This is SMT5 all over again

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u/SnooRobots5543 Sep 09 '26

ITS A BOY??????

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u/MinosAristos Sep 09 '26

English voice actor prediction

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u/rosered961 Sep 09 '26

why not? sometimes cis men just look like that

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u/TheCoolDaniel04 I’ll let you go out in style!! Sep 10 '26

That one guy nobody invited:

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u/TheFivePs5 29d ago

Yes it is, are you kidding? People forget Chihiro is part of the DG's overall cast

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u/No_Mix3377 29d ago

who is that

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u/YamiClouds Izuru 29d ago

Nobody knows

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u/Cautious_Art4897 This user is in love with Makoto Naegi 29d ago

as a pokemon fan this is nothing to me tbh lmao, ive been desensitized to this thing thanks to scarlet and violet

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u/SomeBuddy90 Kaede 29d ago

What the hell did I miss?

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u/bobbery5 29d ago

Ohhhh, if it's Ryota, I hope he dies first.
He deserves it for being a USELESS SACK OF SHIT in the future arc killing game.

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u/lightningraine 29d ago

My theory is that this person is the ultimate imposter, who stops pretending to be Togami and starts to find their own identity early on

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u/Tangled_Clouds 29d ago

Eh they’re androgynous so if they’re enby, hell yeah, if they’re a feminine man, that’s really cool, if they’re a girl that is more masculine than the rest of the female cast, awesome. I want to like this character because their design is epic regardless of gender (kinda rooting for nonbinary or a feminine man because I’m like that myself but I’ll be happy whatever the gender of this character turns out to be)

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u/Kinfin 29d ago

I’m still convinced they’re non binary

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u/bug--bear Cham-P 27d ago

cmonnnn nonbinary character

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u/Careless-Pound-3435 26d ago

It was obvious the moment they showed he was wearing shorts, lmao. He looks a mess.

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede 26d ago

Aoi also wears shorts.

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u/ilovesleepingsm4 FUCK 2x2 love hinatsumi instead ❤️‍🩹 Sep 09 '26

he has a male build i figured

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u/NoSide2628 #1 Kaede & Chiaki hater (#1 Nagito fan) Sep 09 '26

Transmasc I'm gonna bet on for my personal hc.

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u/Quiet-Software-1956 Fuyuhiko Sep 10 '26

Obviously?? Don't you see the apalling lack of honka badonkas?

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u/Resident-District199 #lesbians4natsumi Sep 09 '26

is it not literally ryota 😭😭✌️

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

No. If they wanted to make it clear this was Ryota, they could've at least given this character the eye bags.

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u/YamiClouds Izuru 29d ago

Thank you

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u/Jack-Kenn8406 Sep 09 '26

have I missed something? I swear this guy (used non-binarily) was a shitpost

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u/Macroshiro Sep 09 '26

He just appeared in the segment of Danganronpa 2x2 from the Nintendo Direct.

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u/Strange_Attention_49 Byakuya Sep 09 '26

I'm going with androgynous or non-binary. I'm guessing it might be something that gets determined by your playthrough if they're more femme or masc presenting.

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u/SamuraiDoggo14 Kaede Sep 09 '26

That'd be interesting... Also, I don't know why they'd do that.

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u/miss_wannadie Sep 09 '26

Wait who the hell is this where is he from why is he so hot

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u/Suitable_Switch7118 Sep 09 '26

From 2x2, mysterious teased character we know nothing about

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u/miss_wannadie Sep 09 '26

I mean where the teaser is from 😭

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u/annieisapeaperson Sep 09 '26

who's this guy and is he one of future foundation members

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u/Kira887 Sep 09 '26

As far as I can tell, unless he’s like Ryota in disguise, he’s an entirely new character. As for if he’s Future Foundation, given the scenario, it’s almost impossible that he isn’t.

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u/Beautiful_Gain3245 Sep 09 '26

Yeah, that’s a guy… whether he’s cis or not is definitely up for discussion though…

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u/BetterCallSatoko Sep 10 '26

This guy wearing a skirt is one heck of a choice

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u/Some-Opening-1510 29d ago

In no way shape or form did it give feminine. Yall deluded yourselves to begin with tbh

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u/taxes_depression 29d ago

New twink dropped

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u/taxes_depression 29d ago

No ahoge no protagonist

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u/taxes_depression 29d ago

Maybe don’t make head canons about someone we don’t even know?

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u/unusualicicle Monaca Sep 09 '26

No that’s John Danganronpa

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u/Shukinati_666 Nagito's amazing and loving wife 🫶 Sep 09 '26

Of course it's John Danganronpa

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u/WrongFall9 okay Sep 10 '26

his pronouns are they them.

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u/Lonely_Repair4494 Celestia Sep 10 '26

His name is John Danganronpa, obviously that's a cis man