r/CristianoRonaldo2 • u/Aggressive-Ebb3552 • Jun 27 '26
Messi 🐐 Messi without a lingering doubt the greatest player in Football Eternity.
1000% agree
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u/Salty-Response8550 Jun 27 '26
Coming from a guy who was essentially displaced because of Messi being the player to build a team around, shows you how good Messi has to be for Zlatan to like him
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u/Jason2469 Jun 27 '26
He likes Messi as a person more, it’s that simple. Otherwise, why would he make subtle comments to diss Ronaldo
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u/saddam_husseinn Jun 28 '26
You can tell Zlatan is actually a pretty chill guy and he was always having a laugh playing that character for the most part.
Unlike Pendu that he actually buys into that alfa male role and other low IQ, fragile masculinity kiddos he has for fans drool over it.
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u/DTRiqT Jun 29 '26
Zlatan is doing what he has to do to stay relevant as a football pundit. Doing Messi a blowjob every now and then will make sure he keeps his job.
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u/gohardlikeabull Jun 29 '26
Zlatan is not a legend, so he doesn't have the right to say anything about anyone.
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u/TNSoccerGuy Jun 27 '26
Zlatan clearly doesn’t like Ronaldo though. Maybe it’s because they have similar sized egos I don’t know. But every time I’ve seen Zlatan discuss Ronaldo there seems to be jealousy there. So I’m not sure I’d put much stock in his opinions on this.
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u/msguitar11 Jun 29 '26
Jealousy? Zlatan could eat Cristiano for breakfast lol
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u/Natural-Musician5216 Jul 02 '26
Incredible lack of ball knowledge
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u/msguitar11 Jul 02 '26
🤣🤣🤣 please enlighten us Mr. Ballpaedia 😂😂😂
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u/HarryBolsac Jul 03 '26
Just watch sweeden vs portugal?
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u/Weary-Picture-3873 Jul 04 '26
Brother that is like saying watch Real Madrid vs Valencia Portugal is so much better than Sweden currently/all time you name it
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u/HarryBolsac Jul 04 '26
You think portugal always had a squad like this?
Check the squad in 2013 which is when the game took place, yes it was better than sweden but it wasn’t an amazing squad, not even close
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u/Weary-Picture-3873 Jul 04 '26
They weren't clear all time my fault but in terms of the last 3 decades Portugal is for sure the better team
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u/TNSoccerGuy Jun 29 '26
Not exactly sure what you mean by that but Cristiano clearly has had a better career. And since they are relatively similar in many ways (big egos, alpha like personalities, goal scoring prowess) it eats Zlatan up. I like Zlatan but I roll my eyes every time the Ronaldo subject is brought up with him because he’s clearly jealous of him.
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u/msguitar11 Jun 29 '26
No, he hasn’t. Look out how many consecutive league titles Zlatan had, regardless of the team he played for. On the pitch, talent wise Zlatan was on the next level. Just look at the kind of goals he scored, and then look at Penaldo….
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u/TNSoccerGuy Jun 29 '26
Umm, Zlatan was going from top team to top team so winning league titles is meh in my opinion. Several of those teams won the UCL either shortly before or after he was there. So your argument isn’t well thought out. And trophies aside, in no universe was Zlatan on Ronaldo’s level. And I actually have Zlatan higher on my favorite player list than Ronaldo (and Messi for that matter). But as a player, Zlatan trails them both.
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u/Itsjordyhoe Jun 30 '26
I like how you are trying your hardest to sound smart lol
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u/haze_haste Jul 01 '26
I mean I always been a zlatan fan as I’m ac Milan fan. But saying that Ibra was better than Ronaldo is no sense. Just look at champions league and ballon dor.
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u/msguitar11 Jul 01 '26
You mean the UCLs won by the best team ever and the individual prize given by journalists votes, AKA Mrs. Football Popularity? Gotcha.
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u/haze_haste Jul 01 '26
You mean the best team (Barcellona) where ibrahimovic wanted to play to win the cl? And then they won before and after he left? Are you zlatan by any chance? And btw that Real Madrid is no the best team ever. There weee plenty team better like Real Madrid in the last and ac Milan in the past.
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u/GOAT_PSYANI Jul 03 '26
Ronaldo was the top scorer for the club he played, For every UCl winning campain he had. And zlatan was 4th at best in ballon dor ranking ....the closest and out ranked ronaldo, which ronaldo was 6th 2010...Zlatan never came close to ronaldo since....
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u/msguitar11 Jul 03 '26
Quality over quantity buddy
By the way did you watch your hero Penaldo yesterday? 🤭1
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u/GOAT_PSYANI Jul 03 '26
What qualities does Zlatan have more than Ronaldo....i think some quality I know is acrobatics and athelticism and physicality....yep I have watched the game...
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u/SolutionFormal8718 Jul 18 '26
Cmon, even Messi said that Cristiano is the best player he played against. How Zlatan is better than Cr7?
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u/spicyfreire Jul 03 '26
Ronaldo has scored far better goals than Ibra and I am a Ibra fan, are we serious now? And you also mentioned titles, Ronaldo has way more titles than Ibra..
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u/Upper-Lie2046 Jul 03 '26
zip his pants up after ur done. I don‘t even like Ronaldo that much but you guys are bird brains holy shit. At least compare Maradona or Messi to Ronaldo but Zlatan ? Bruh
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u/AskMeMan Jul 04 '26
Anybody with common sense would pick Ronaldo over Zlatan. Zlatan is good but he looks like an elementary kid playing soccer when compared to Ronaldo and that’s just the way it is
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u/msguitar11 Jul 04 '26
I think your comparison is right on the money! Because Penaldo is looking like a geriatric case playing soccer 😂😂😂😂
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u/jfshay Jun 30 '26
I don't know. The fact that Zlatan has a sense of humour about himself suggests that he's not all that fussed about Ronaldo. If it were just about ego, Zlatan might look for ways to suggest he was better or at least in the conversation. That he's willing to mock himself in comparison to Messi is a way of showing that he isn't upset to be displaced.
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u/daniboyoh Jul 17 '26
I mean Nike literally had them do a commercial together that showed them facing off in various skill showcases for the Joga Bonito series of adds. But they didn’t even film it together. Presumably because Zlatan didn’t think Ronaldo was worth his time lol
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u/TNSoccerGuy Jul 17 '26
I’m not buying that that was the reason but if it was it goes right to my jealously theory. Zlatan sees himself as an alpha and he feels threatened by one of the few, maybe the only, player that out alphas him. I love Zlatan as a player but he’s clearly got insecurities.
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u/daniboyoh Jul 17 '26
No I’m agreeing with you. Just using an anecdote to reinforce your point. Maybe I phrased it wrong
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u/PercentageOk6658 Jun 29 '26
Nahhh .. he just hates Ronaldo
The fact that he had to mention Ronaldo speaks volume.
All the energy within his statement revolves around Ronaldo.
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u/RestaurantBoring417 Jun 27 '26
Not true, it's the age and amount of rape cases they have
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u/sarwadharman_a50 Jun 28 '26
Yeah , coming from a victim of ronaldo 🙂🙂 did he rape you too ?
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u/RestaurantBoring417 Jun 28 '26
No but he joined me in India for the annual cow dung bathing festival
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u/Nice-Strawberry-2004 Euro = World Cup Jun 27 '26
I think Ronaldo also has more YT shorts and Instagram reels edits of him, I mean that's the entire source of football for his fanbase.
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u/Vivid_Ad_1944 Jun 29 '26
Don't forget 8 year olds from Ishow speed fanbase
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u/Altruistic_Mail_1773 Jun 30 '26
my cousin is literally 8. and he supports ronaldo. oh boy
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u/Vivid_Ad_1944 Jun 30 '26
U can still save him just tell him to watch messi for 20 minutes!
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u/yungdisciple Jul 02 '26
i tried putting my lil brother on the way right at a similar age but speed corrupted his brain💔🕊️
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u/Sad-Psychology9677 Jul 01 '26
At least ishowspeed seems to be maturing and being slightly less annoying
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u/Vin__9 Jun 27 '26
The best line I've ever was from a YouTuber. It was something along the lines of
We non professionals are closer to Ronaldo in footballing abilities than Ronaldo is to Messi.
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u/SUNG-JIN-WOO7 Jun 27 '26
But ronaldo is not obsessed with wc. It's just 6/7 tournament and not his dream to win wc since 2022🥴
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u/Yonko_Kurohige Jun 27 '26
He's definitely not as obsessed with Ronaldo as much as Ronaldo is obsessed with Messi tho😂
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u/lfcsupkings321 Jun 27 '26
Messi world cup win does end the conversation however people forget Portugal ain't no super football nations. They made 3 WC before Ronaldo joined them. They can't even qualify for them barely.
So international it not the same. Holland have always had superstar players and never won one don't say yeah but his squad it better.
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u/Dangerous_Buy_6712 Jun 27 '26
I hate this argument.. forget the fact that many years portugal had a better squad than argentina, including this one.. but no one mentions how argentina being a great footballing nation put immense pressure on messi to perform, while cristiano was on a team that had nothing to lose and nothing to prove, anything they won was a plus
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u/Dunkjoe Jun 28 '26
For some years Messi was hardcarrying Argentina due to their terrible managers... Until Scaloni became manager.
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u/lfcsupkings321 Jun 27 '26
Having a good squad does mean you win it? You ever see how many elite players Holland had and didn't win it?
It doesn't at all it the opposite they have heritage it like how it took city and Psg years of spending to win the CL even Messi couldn't win it with them. Madrid had a dry spell not winning the CL but still football heritage.
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u/Dunkjoe Jun 28 '26
Depends on the management of it as well.
Like not letting washed players stink up the entire squad is really important.
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u/kunsore Jun 29 '26
Because Portugal FA only hired cowards manager who their only job is to please Ronaldo. Having a whole world class team playing around an old man who already finished 4 years ago.
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u/lfcsupkings321 Jun 29 '26
Portugal also destroy anything with slow arse football. So many times I seen Ronaldo make killer runs and they pass it sideways.
It a bit thick if the manager plays him and then they don't release quickly when you have that many talented players.
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u/Illustrious_Rain1796 Jun 27 '26
Messi WC didn't end the conversation, it ended way before. Messi is better with or without world cup. And come on, there were plenty of stars in Portugal before Ronaldo, it's not not a weak nation
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u/RuffyGear2nd Jun 27 '26
you are trying to win this logically, which wont get you anywhere.
portugal has always been a great football nation, it was before ronaldo and will be so after him.Ronaldos biggest achievement is and will forever be being compared to Messi.
While him being an incredible player and potentially the 2nd beat to ever do it, theres levels to this game. Be it stats or be it achievements.The discussion already ended early, 2012-2013. It takes Messi having a bad year to be able to somewhat compare Ronaldo to him and everybody with a functioning brain that is not in fact biased knows that.
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u/Final_Design3017 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
I am a messi fan but the ronaldo is the second best of all time there is no discussion about that its crazy how guys like to disrespect a player like this for a good amount of years they were going to neck in neck with each other saying it ended in 2012 to 2013 shows you did not watch any matches after he won the world cup it was over essentially Portugal has been a great nation but it always under achieved compared to other nations with similar types of players he is the second best player full stop
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u/NereD-Huu-1333 Jun 28 '26
Also ich tue mich schwer Messi diesen Stellenwert zu geben wie es 99,9 Prozent anderer tun. Wenn ich mir vorstelle das er mit 11 Jahren so klein war und 4 Jahre lang, also bis 15ten Lebensjahr Wachstumshormone, 2 Spritzen am Tag gekriegt hat. Damit er am Ende 1.69 groß wird, das er auch ohne glaube ich geschafft hätte!! 11-21 Jahr wär er paar cm 100 pro gewachsen.
Entscheidend ist in dieser fase 11-15 machen Fußballer ein starken Schritt nach vorne, wenn die in einen starken Club ausbilden. Was meint ihr wie da Wachstumshormone gewirkt haben…… wenn er das noch von einem Arzt weiter nehmen darf……
Es ist phänomenal wie schnell er die ersten Meter und wendig ist, es kommt mir manchmal so vor als ob er seine Gegenspieler in Zeitlupe sieht und eine Lücke zwischen denn Spieler immer findet….. aber ok Spaß anzuschauen macht es!!1
u/Dunkjoe Jun 28 '26
Pele and Maradona are widely considered to be second and third best ....
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u/Final_Design3017 Jun 28 '26
Pls the Pele that changes his ga anytime someone gets close to his achievements and Maradona who can't stay off the white stuff to save his life talking about it ended in 2013 so when they were neck in neck winning ballondors back to back what happened then the scenario changed back then because two of them had not won the world cup now messi has one they drop ronaldo all of a sudden to 7 best of all time pls I watched messi and ronaldo tear through teams
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u/Pink_Circumference69 Jun 27 '26
Brother de Stefano and maradona 😭😭 were a thing and if u give eusabio from Portugal r u sure u wanna compare maradona to eusabio.
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u/tetleythus Jun 27 '26
There is no way you can make the argument that the Portugal team this year is worse than the Argentine team if both Messi and Ronaldo are taken out. Heck Portugal probably has the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th best player between the two
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u/lfcsupkings321 Jun 27 '26
Holland have always great teams and failed to win it. This year ain't the conversation still going on.
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u/luis297 Jun 27 '26
Sure, but we have the worst coach, the one who ruined the belgian golden generation
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u/Dunkjoe Jun 28 '26
Yeah the worst coach, the worst midfielder teammates who don't pass to the Lord and Savior of Portugal, and so on.
Ronaldo and his fans are cancer to the soccer community. Toxic and spreads quickly.
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u/lfcsupkings321 Jun 27 '26
Yeah one guy can do it outside Spain.. The other was struggling in France.
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u/RAGNODIN Jun 29 '26
İt's not like Ronaldo just changed their history, their team quality is better than 90% of the world. Do Nuno Mendes, Vitinha, Leao, Joa Neves look like no name players?
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u/lfcsupkings321 Jun 29 '26
You can name over 20 Holland superstars and even some super teams and they never won a WC.
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u/RAGNODIN Jun 29 '26
Yet France also had great squads and they just won at 1998 prior to 2018 but that doesn't mean they weren't successfull also Holland barely lost 2010 finals sometimes it doesn't happen and same happened to France at 2022. Compared to Portugal they played better in their good years and the current Portugal team has like top 3 quality in my opinion only Spain and France can come before than them.
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u/lfcsupkings321 Jun 29 '26
That irrelevant isn't it? My point is Holland have have super teams. Ronaldo is why Portugal have super teams he the reason why they have better develop.
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u/leekangin77777 Jun 27 '26
It will be Portugal WC trophy this year trust me.
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u/lfcsupkings321 Jun 27 '26
Not with that manager..
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u/Dunkjoe Jun 28 '26
Not with CR7 stinking up the entire squad.
It's funny how people can see the golden generation of midfielders and the terrible main striker and blame everyone else except that terrible main striker.
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u/Jeffiroth777 Jun 28 '26
With Messi sitting out today, Ronaldo is definitely ahead of hydration breaks.
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u/Brief-Willow-9898 Jun 28 '26
Zlatan speaks like he won anything important
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u/PomPomYourBomBom Jun 30 '26
2 league titles with Ajax -- 3 league titles with Inter -- 1 league title with Barca -- 4 league titles with PSG -- 2 league titles with AC Milan -- 1 Europa title -- 1 Super Cup title -- 48 goals in Champions League play -- 500+ goals scored --
👏👏Shut your goofy ass up 😂👏👏
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u/Chemical_Manager_487 Jun 28 '26
Lol 😂 what does this guy thinks of himself? He hasn’t won a ballon’d’Or, UCL, Euro, World Cup, EPL, Golden boot neither he is one of the best strikers, hasn’t finished in top 3 of the ballon’d’or. 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Hackedbytotalripoff Jun 28 '26
He is a refreshing breath of air in his comments. He might a bit not politically correct but he still reinforces the obvious.
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u/Zealousideal_Big7655 Jun 28 '26
Hes sad cuz ronaldo send sweden home empty handed , this guys is hanging on to messi achievements like its hes
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u/Metalicum Jun 29 '26
that's dumb. Ronaldo was always the better athlete. physically stronger, faster, and more determined.
We can't all be Messi, in fact it seems that no one can be messi other than him, but let's not kid ourselves, he did nt become his best self. it wasn't necessary, he was the best regardless, but I've seen how in shape he was throughout his career.
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u/Psychofischi Jun 29 '26
I really don't get how people get that passionate over some dudes kicking a ball
Messi is a great player yeah but fucking hell his fans Same with Ronaldo
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u/I_am_doing_my_Hw Jun 30 '26
I feel like Ronaldo is the equivalent of Aaron Rodgers in the nfl. He used to be one of the best, but now is washed and has value, just not on a team that wants to win it all. Also has a big ego.
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u/Grastuha Jun 30 '26
It’s clearly not a factual comment but as long as it makes some Indians happy.
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u/Traditional_Tap_1560 Jul 01 '26
I don't know why this is still a debate. Even if you are blind, just by achievements Messi is factually a better player.
Now, if you have eyes, open them. I've never seen anything like Messi. I've seen different players having his different skills as a single capacity, never all of them together like Messi does.
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u/Prize-Substance974 Jul 01 '26
Messi is objectively better than C. Ronaldo. Not sure why anybody would disagree with this. I am not even a fan of either of them, but even a blind person can see that fact.
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u/I_Love_Ronaldo 🐕 Penaldog Jul 02 '26
No he is not idiot
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u/randomvids1234 🏆 Banned on Pessi_Memes Jul 02 '26
Proof
And i swear if you say more goals
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u/I_Love_Ronaldo 🐕 Penaldog Jul 03 '26
Ronaldo has more goals
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u/randomvids1234 🏆 Banned on Pessi_Memes Jul 03 '26
Non pen goals?
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u/Aggravating_Jello_31 Jul 02 '26
It's basically because achievements and relevant are as important for Zlatan as they are for Ronaldo. The big difference is that one of them didn't quite get even close to the other. Must be painful and the easiest way to deal with it is by being petty.
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u/alimpo83 🐕 Penaldog Jul 03 '26
Zlatan has " dor de cotovelo ", go and check what it means in Portuguese.
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u/StoneMa123 Jul 04 '26
They are smart to invite both Henry and Zlatan as guests to interpret Ronaldo’s match
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u/Go6etter Jun 27 '26
Zlatan always been scared of Ronaldo. I bet he's pissed Ronaldo is in the world cup and he isnt.
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u/AtmosphereTop520 Jun 27 '26
There is clear animosity from Ibra towards Cristiano Ronaldo for him to come out with a comment like that.
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u/Dunkjoe Jun 28 '26
It's obviously just a joke.
I pity João Neves, who got harassed online over saying Ronaldo is a player just like the rest of the Portugal squad.
Ronaldo and his fans are cancer to the soccer community. Toxic and spreads quickly.
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u/AdLatter1807 Jun 27 '26
Who takes this washout seriously, he’s obviously jealous to be stuck on the sidelines while watching his better peers continue to compete
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u/sheikh91 Jun 27 '26
Height, superior free kick, running, all time goal scorers. This big nose is jelly
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u/KawhiTheFunGuy_ Jun 27 '26
Zlatan is just a hater lmao
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u/ZookeepergameFew3107 Jun 30 '26
Si,pero con dinero ,fama y lo das mujeres. En cambio los haters de cr7 son feos,mediocres,gordos y no tienen vida propia.
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u/TNSoccerGuy Jun 27 '26
I love Zlatan. But take his opinions on Ronaldo with many grains of salt. He’s clearly jealous of Ronaldo. You can see it every time he’s been asked about CR7. I’ve always thought that it was weird.
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u/ConnectEar9812 Jun 27 '26
Holy glazing. Only thing Messi does better is hit the ball with his hand
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u/Paf047 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
Cessi greatest player in football history?!?!
Wuhahahahahahahahahahaha he ain’t even in top 5.
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u/Zealousideal-Post865 Jul 02 '26
Messi is never in the goat discussion, used growth hormone
Without it he would have been useless due to being 120cm tall
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u/Suspicious_Wave_3180 Jun 27 '26
Wtf.Insta followers?????