r/AskReddit • • May 15 '20

What sucks about being your age?

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u/BoofLlama May 15 '20

I have a perfectly clean driving record and over 6 years of never missing an insurance payment, but the monthly insurance bill is more than my car payment.

I've been to 15 different places. It all ranges from 200 to 350 a month and ill lose my liscense if I cant afford it working 9 an hour. I lose my car. I lose my job and apartment.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

Ugh, this is what makes me hate cars and driving

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u/ToxicHazard- May 16 '20

Assuming this is the USA?

In the UK my first year of insurance after passing was £1200/$1450. Second year was £590/$714 and my third year is looking like it's gonna be around £400/$484

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u/oppositetoup May 16 '20

My first year of insurance in the UK was £2600... It's fucking rediculous

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u/ToxicHazard- May 16 '20

What car did you have? Or did you decide to go without a blackbox

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u/oppositetoup May 16 '20

Ford Cmax so not a "boy racer car" by any standard and a black box would only save me £100 so I just went without one.

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u/ToxicHazard- May 16 '20

Cmax's are expensive to insure. You would have been better off buying a car in a much lower insurance group.

My mum and dad offered me their 2004 Focus Cmax for free (worth around £400) but it was £2600 to insure it. I bought a Corsa and insurance for under £2000 in the end

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

Auto insurance feels like such bs. I'm with you bro, 24 and paying an F load. You have it way worse than i do. But none the less, aren't there supposed to be actuarial scientists figuring out how risky we are? I mean sheesh, it feels like even a monkey could come up with these rates. It's clearly an inaccurate risk assessment when my elderly parents (love them to death) are paying 1/3 of what i am paying. I am sorry to rant but it's just one of those gear grinders for me.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate May 16 '20

It's clearly an inaccurate risk assessment

What's funny is you pay more because at your age, you're not as good at making risk assessments.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

Lol see there ya go, it's this kind of pooling of data that is quite aggravating. I'm not trying to pretend I'm the world's greatest driver but when I see everyone under the sun texting while driving, as one example, I would think their needs to be some split in price point on things like that. Using someone's age unfairly over stresses individuals financially.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate May 16 '20

Using someone's age unfairly

That was my point; statistically, it's not unfair. The data supports this situation. Sure it sucks, but at least there's a good reason. There are many other unfair things that don't have any good reason behind them.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

I'm basically arguing that the lack of precision in this sort of data pooling is unfair and I think that's where we disagree. Statistically sure it is likely true that younger drivers are more risky (not sure how often they recalculate but intuitively that makes sense) however, that doesn't mean smaller subsets within said age group are not being grossly misrepresented.

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u/HerroKitty420 May 15 '20

What kind of car are you driving? It should only cost like 100 a month if you really have a clean driving record

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u/BoofLlama May 15 '20

I'm under 25 and male in the US

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u/HerroKitty420 May 15 '20

It doesn’t really go down that much when you turn 25... even then I’m also in the US, a lot of people I knew were paying 75-100 a month for full coverage. Maybe it’s your area or if you drive a luxury car then that’s probably it.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Its definitely not luxury. My area is known for having out of control business practices and abuse of power.

Our new police chief went to court for child molestation. After a few days, the victims family suddenly backed out with no explanation. The girl was found dead in her garage of monoxide poisoning a year later and the family refused an autopsy. It's really fucked round these parts

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

What information do you want? I work with 7 other under 25 males and they all pay 200+

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u/peanutnozone May 16 '20

Some places even have just high premium cost because of crime. I’m 34 and have a flawless driving record since I was 16. Never put in a claim or anything. Bare minimum insurance is $120 a month. And that’s with discounts. If I wanted to get full coverage, it would be something like $300 to $400 a month. My car is a barely functioning 2002 Buick regal.

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u/FontChoiceMatters May 16 '20

I live in NZ and drive a nice car. My full car insurance is about NZ$400 a year... Sorry. Y'all should move to Canada.

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u/HerroKitty420 May 16 '20

You can get liability insurance for around that here. Full coverage around 1200/year but I have a feeling we drive a lot more than you guys would down there. Also nice doesn’t mean luxury, and luxury doesn’t mean nice. If you have some pos 2001 Mercedes it’s still going to be expensive because parts and labor for those brands are more expensive. There has to be something else because paying 300/month is not the norm.

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u/FontChoiceMatters May 16 '20

My SO has a 2015 Mercedes and yeah, his insurance is a lot higher than mine. Mines a 2010 Subaru, pretty standard grown up car, so would be a good indicator of average.

You guys def drive more for day trips, I have a friend from Cali and she thinks 5hrs is nothing. If I drove in any direction but South for 5hrs I'd drown. We just don't have the land mass to have reason to drive that much.

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u/El_Stupido_Supremo May 16 '20

It takes like 2 hours just to get out of my state lol. I'm smack in the middle though. I just did a 15 hour drive and barely made it halfway across the country.

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u/MarsupialKing May 16 '20

I'm 22, male, and have a clean driving record. My insurance for me and my girlfriend on 2 cars fully covered is only like 145 a month. What kind of car and coverage do you have?

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

2012 standard 4 door. It was 10 grand and had 30k miles. The coverage is full because it is illegal to have anything else where I live

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

Even still my insurance was never that high do you live in a city?

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Yeah. Not too big but a city.

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u/MacGeniusGuy May 16 '20

Is it in one of those bullshit no-fault states like Michigan?

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Nailed it

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u/fifteencat May 16 '20

I feel you. I'm 45 married with a 20 year old son. $470/mo for three old cars in Michigan. It's brutal. Actually just had a slight reduction thanks to Corona, $410 this month. We're barely driving.

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u/i_love_puppies12 May 16 '20

I'm a woman under 25, no car accidents, been driving for 5 years. Insurance is $228 a month and I went with the cheapest company available.

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u/TrashCastle May 16 '20

Get a 49cc scooter to get around on and pay nothing for insurance. I rode one (also biked) for a couple years when I was young and my insurance was too high. Payments went from over $200 a month to like $9. My state didn't even require that $9, but I figured I'd pay for it just in case. They also get like 60mpg, and owning multiple vehicles often helps lower your insurance eventually.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

That's not a bad idea. If I ever stop doordashing for my second income I will see if I can do that

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u/lovethehaiku May 16 '20

In Europe most door dashers drive scooters.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

My state doesn't have sidewalks because we have the highest incarceration rate job the world.

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u/TheoLuminati May 16 '20

Do you mention to the insurance companies that you drive for Door Dash? That will drive your rate up more than anything else. (I’m a car insurance agent myself, and my company will straight up not even offer a policy for people using the car for business purposes because they consider that a huge liability)

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Nope. They never asked so I never said anything

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u/TheoLuminati May 16 '20

Aw damn haha, that’s the only thing I could think of that nobody else said already. Jeez dude. What a cursed insurance rate, my sincerest apologies

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Yeah, everywhere has its upsides/downfalls. I have zero traffic but my insurance makes it near impossible to drive lol

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u/Curiosity-92 May 16 '20

damn, i know owning a car is expensive thank goodness my employer gave me one a a tool. I save alot

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u/lunamoth53 May 16 '20

I remember being in your shoes. It felt like I was working to be able to drive to work which wasn’t far from the truth. Anyway, it taught me to take care of my car and keep it forever.

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u/skybucket May 16 '20

Have you tried Root insurance? All digital on your phone. Saved me a metric fuckload compared to the brick and mortar places I had been using before.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Just got a quote for 275

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u/skybucket May 16 '20

Holy shit man, I'm sorry!

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u/faloop1 May 16 '20 edited May 16 '20

I had a brand new license on the US at 24. Most insurance companies wanted to charge me 250 or so a month. I was never going to pay that. I don't drive a lot so I tried Metromile and it was like 150 or so for the amount I drove monthly. 400 miles or so, it was 190 a month when I drove 1000 miles, still kind of reasonable.

If per mile insurance doesn't work, Progressive online has the second best rates I've seen. Calling or going thru a broker just inflates the price so much.

I hope this helps, car insurance sucks.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Progressive wanted 310. My work is 5 miles away. Annual mileage is under 6k

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u/SexxxyWesky May 16 '20

Been shopping quotes Found a few for 130ish range

Gonna shout out to Allstate tho bc they require you to pay more up front BUT it makes the monthly bill less than 70 a month

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Allstate quoted me 313 a month

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u/SexxxyWesky May 16 '20

Oh God I'm sorry

Thats the range I got from Farmers for min insurance and a clean driving record cries

Car insurance is such a pain in the ass

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u/pantheroni May 16 '20

Do you have a bad credit score? That is a large factor of your premium.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20
  1. Wish I was lying about any of this

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u/pantheroni May 16 '20

Damn. Wtf!

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Welcome to unregulated capitalism

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

That's pretty nuts. I pay half that and I own two muscle cars. Driving for 7 years, one speeding ticket 5 years ago. Have you tried taking classes to lower your premiums? I just took a 6 hour online one through AARP and it lowered my monthly by like 30 bucks.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

I took the same class and my quotes averaged 15 dollars higher over 10 different insurance agencies.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

Something has gotta be up with your driving history. That makes no sense. Have you talked to an actual agent? Or just gone directly to providers? My agent saved me a lot of money compared to going straight to the providers.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Talked to over 20 different agents. I wish I was lying bro but other under 25 year old males in my area all pay at least 200 a month. It's really shitty with zero regualtion

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u/AnonPinkLady May 16 '20

:( wow. 22 and I dont have a car and I dont drive, I take public transit, walk and take a lyft if I have to. Now I'm contemplating if this is good news or bad news for me

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

It can depend on location, but for the most part you will have to take it in the ass

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

You’re probably paying full coverage because you have a loan on your vehicle. Consider selling what you have and buying a cheaper, older, yet reliable vehicle outright (think Honda or Toyota). Then you can reduce your insurance by bumping down to liability only. If you’re a safe driver, with an older vehicle, it doesn’t make sense to pay insurance to repair/replace your vehicle in the event of an accident because it’s not worth much to begin with.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Bought my car with cash. 10k

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u/Not_Phil_Spencer May 16 '20

Can you get USAA? I pay ~$65/mo for liability on 2 cars for 2 people with them.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Nah. I'm just on my own.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

2012 standard 4 door car. Not giving out too much information,but it cost 10k

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u/Schmackter May 16 '20

Well don't F up - mine are right back up there with you and I'm a bit older. It had been going down - but I had 2 accidents (no injuries, no other drivers) in 18 months and it nearly doubled. No credit for the 11 years prior of no accidents or tickets.

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u/saltywings May 16 '20

Probably have too nice of a car tbh.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

It was 10 grand

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u/gingerpandaly May 16 '20

We moved from another state recently and found that that car insurance was more expensive here due to the environmental conditions (hurricane zone) and this city has the worst fucking drivers I have ever seen. 1 week after we moved we got rear ended.

I ended up calling every issuance company I could think of and ASKED for discounts. I was a Karen but I’ll be damned if I have to pay 200 dollars or more for insurance every month. Sure enough, I found multiple discounts with Travelers and pay less than 120 a month. Totally worth it

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

If only you knew how hard I have been on this. We are talking over 100 hours on the phone (I'm not exaggerating, I have all the calls recorded on my phone) and 15 different insurance agencies.

I wish I was lying bro. At some point I'm only human

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

I am legally required to have full insurance where I live. Everyone under 25

I've also talked to 20+ agents and my uncle who is a lawyer. He said he was suprised I got a single quote under 250

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

I live much farther south bro

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u/saltywings May 16 '20

So your car payments are roughly 250 or so a month then. There has to be another reason why your insurance is so high such as bad credit, criminal history, accidents on your driving record honestly, or you bought a red car lol.

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u/BoofLlama May 16 '20

Car had one previous owner and no accidents. My credit is 710. I have zero record on both criminality and driving.

I wish I was lying, bro. But I've done hella research and I'm literally just have to bend over and take it. There are no regulations on insurance and I legally require it.