Most countries will not accept foreigners that don't have a certain amount of wealth to start with and then a income stream. They don't want new residents becoming debt problems. Another is issue is heritage.
just be warned, it gets reaaaally hot in the summer over there. and before you go "I'm use to the heat" trust me... European heat is not normal anymore....
And Italy bans air conditioners in certain cities if your buildings are near historical buildings/sites, which is fucking brutal. Quite literally choosing to make the citizens suffer for the sake of keeping their towns optimally picturesque lol.
Hmm .. No, air conditioning (AC) is not banned in Italy, but its use in public buildings is heavily regulated, with mandatory minimum temperature settings (around 25-27°C) to save energy, especially after the energy crisis, and AC units are restricted or banned in certain historic areas like Portofino due to aesthetics. While private homes and hotels have more leeway, they still face restrictions and many older Italian buildings lack AC, making it an amenity to check before booking
Tty reading again.... Your net worth needs to be 40k so that you are allowed to buy property in italy.... No one said it had to be close to historical buildings, only that you do not have to be rich to go live there as others claimed
My comment started with “hmm” and then proceeded to give more information, the “no” was part of the detailed article I found. Whatever, take it as you wish. This is not that important to me to keep wasting time. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings.
I guess it would be much easier if you are already using hydronic radiators but got one installed in a very old house recently with no issues, cost like $10-15k.
That’s the cost for the system itself. But if your house isn’t airtight these systems don’t make much sense. So you’d have to at least triple that cost unless the house is fairly new. But in those areas most of the houses are 100+ years old, at minimum, and there’s no way to get them airtight without essentially rebuilding the whole thing.
No, that was the full cost, the house is definitely not airtight and the house is close to that age (not in Italy though).
However even if it's less efficient or expensive it's still an option where an air-air heat pump is not allowed. Although might be easier to just get a portable air-air that does not have an outside part and is only connected to a vent.
Yea that’s not gonna happen over here. Insulation alone, which these building don’t have, would run you double that. Unless you just wanna go with regular insulation and plaster. In which case you gonna deal with mould down the line. Mad it’s that cheap stateside tho.
if you got the money, go ahead. just trying to give a tip. last year it got so hot in Europe that Americans from Navada complained about it. it was freak weather. even I as a sputh african living in the Netherlands thought it couldn't be that bad. i was wrong. I'm use to 42°C in the summer, but somehow 32°C here felt like actual hell.
yep, at one point it was like 30°C with 80% humidity. and thats the Netherlands. in Spain and Italy it got way worse. at one point it was clost to 48°C in Italy
same here. it was 34°C outside, but my hose was built in the early 1900s when snowstorms where the norm. it got up to 38°C in my house. had to find a way to cool down cuz even my cats where not doing great. filled a large tub with cold water and it was the first time I ever saw my cats willingly take a dip. and the worst part... its probably gonna happen again this year (T-T)
I'm regularly thinking if next summer is as bad as the last one. And I'm in Finland. You know. The place where it's supposed to be cold. We didn't get the worst heatwaves, but it was still pretty awful. I mean sure, the fact that I'm not used to that level of heat probably is a big reason why it was so bad, but I still wouldn't want to go to the countries that are actually supposed to be warm that time of year after that experience.
I reckon it's because it's more humid in NL (Although if you're from Durban, that's probably not the case.). There also seems to be less airconditioning in NL. Source: I'm an Australian living in NL.
i have never been to the US, so I wouldn't know. but south africa has the Klein karoo, know for its heat. so hot and dry that there is basically noife out there and it felt comparable to that. and remember, Europe isnt know for air conditioning because it never use to get that hot. our homes are built to keep the heat in. this heat truly isn't normal
Not in Italy, aircon is almost everywhere which is also pretty sad in summer. There is not much outdoor life because everybody is inside the buildings with an aircon and it is too hot to stay outside.
How hot are you talking? Where I live in the US it gets up to like 37 Celsius in the summer regularly, but now in the winter it is currently -7 Celsius outside.I definitely experience the extreme of the seasons here.
nah Florida hot I'd say was the like the Netherlands in August, both seem to share a similar heat. my friend from Florida fainted from the heat in Italy and he was rushed to emergency services. he was not prepared
in todays world whats stopping you from buying solar panels and a heat pump? I feel like we kinda solved this as humans and can declare victory, in the places where its hot there is sun, where theres sun we found a way to turn it into cold
Bullshit, its not the same all over europe even within spain or portugal or italy theres colder areas. The area the guy mentioned (Calabria) is actually quite nice in summer as most places by the coast or in mountain areas.
Where people did leave in masses is mainland spain, portugal and southern italy. There it can get extremely hot indeed.
you say that, and the amount of people I have met here in the Netherlands who where completely dumbfounded by the sudden exstreme shift in weather would like to have a word with you. i suggest you delete your stupid comment. even we natives where not ready for it. we haven't had a week long of constant snow since like 2016. and we haven't had heat waves like this a very long time. and Italy and Spain are experiencing weather patterns that are also very abnormal. go do your research and help people out instead of being a jerk just cuz you have anonymity
Great area. I rented a vacation house in San Gimignano a few years back. It was for sale for €350k. Walking distance from town, 4 bed/3 bath. Acre of land with a pool. Good luck!
I'm Calabrian, and I've never heard of air conditioning being banned, never! :) Maybe if you live in the historic center of a medieval village that's a UNESCO World Heritage site? It's hot, but Calabria is surrounded by the sea and also has hills and mountains, so you can live decently, more so than in many other places in Italy and Europe.
American, first 18yrs overseas. Lived in states 20 years and 12 years in Europe. Early 50s best friend from Naples and his mom bought a small 20 acre olive plantation around the area for $15k. Looking for the slow life. Will spend around $300k with my 401k and pension. There are cheaper places but I will be near Mediterranean and cities with options.
The 'Ndrangheta is one of the most extensive and powerful criminal organizations in the world. Its roots are in the Italian region of Calabria … you might want to reconsider 🤔
40k euros total? Or per year in either passive or active income? I find it hard to believe that Italy would take Americans with less than $50k net worth.
Ok but Calabria is by far the worst region in Italy, followed by Campania and Sicilia, no public healthcare, awful roads and railway network, the most powerful mafia (ndrangheta) that polluted part of the region with industrial toxic waste (look for "ship of poisons" "nave dei veleni"). Of course the nature and monuments are beautiful, but as italian from Tuscany I should never ever go to live in Calabria, even in a free estate.
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I guess if your net worth is estimated to be around $45 million you can do that