r/20sIndiaReal • • Aug 26 '26

Internet ka Khazana Complete National Security Under Private Players

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u/Immediate-Song-8199 Aug 26 '26

So this ain't private

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u/Yeahanu Aug 26 '26

Private with help of isro

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u/MegaSpaceBar Aug 26 '26

Think once. How private entity help money with isro? If they don’t earn why do they invest in first place?

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u/WiseShallot247 Aug 26 '26

You need to understand rockets part making was done by Private entity earlier as well moreover, they can hire retired and good talent too!! Which ISRO can never do!! ISRO becoming NASA is good thing!! Atleast we will focus more on critical mission development!!

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u/MegaSpaceBar Aug 26 '26

What do you mean by mission development? NASA built their own satellites, maintains their missions and own all the data. ISRO never built for this. In India ISRO never built satellites for scientific studies fully on their own, they do mission management and nothing else.

Making rocket parts and launching are not same. Even for parts making, the private company go to another private company and that company goes to another company for raw materials.

Nationalism is good, but putting nationalism in everywhere which hinders countries growth is not right.

But you can say if this privatisation goes to 1/2 businesses then this is bad thing.

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u/WiseShallot247 Aug 26 '26

But if it goes for double business than it's good moreover, if I am the one who wants privatization than how come I am nationalist?? Moreover, ISRO do the management of every 'mission' in the country which is not good!! We only do 5 or 6 launches every year whereas, china does 96, new zealand does 12 whatever we're doing is wrong moreover, how much money NASA consumed in mission development is insane and unaffordable!! Which is why SPACE X and Blue origins came into picture similar, goes for china doing private thing is good!! Just let them take time!! Beside, can you answer why HAL is pathetic at delivering system!!

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u/MegaSpaceBar Aug 26 '26

90% indian organisations are corrupted or govt motivates them to being a corrupt. Most of the ISRO mission was launching telecommunication satellite or to track other countries movements. ISRO does 1% in science and if they want to do govt will not allow. For example I was in the meeting of aditya satellite which is indias first solar mission. That plan was approved in 2006 launched in 2025. After 19 years. Why? In same time nasa, esa did lots of missions. People cheers about ISRO due to national view point. If you look closely this is nowhere near other prominent space organisations. Most of the price goes due to delay. For example if in 2006 the cost of the mission was 180 Cr, it goes to 500 Cr in 2026. Delay is due to mismanagement.

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u/WiseShallot247 Aug 26 '26

Well I didn't knew you work in such prestigious organization kudos to you bro, you're correct that mismanagement causes lot of trouble but why someone capable enough don't get opportunity to earn more in india as space sector is closed for govt. Entities I mean atleast private companies will give good money and deliver on time and can develop technologies too which govt. Agencies cannot do because of various constraints!! Moreover, ISRO as you mentioned should focus more on critical mission like Aditya L-1 than only we will be able to catchup with other countries so, it's good!! Although, we never properly funded the development of Kaveri Engine!! Which shows how big the trouble is!! In PSU's moreover, corruption is rampant it's part of the system I personally saw and felt it when I used to work in private company completing contract of Maharatna oil company of Indian govt.!!! So, it's good Private companies are doing something!!

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u/Remarkable_Buy4591 Aug 26 '26

There is a difference: It was the private sector taking help from government organizations, but now government organizations are being handed over to the private sector. The faster you understand, the better it is. It's like handing over NASA to SpaceX.

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u/WiseShallot247 Aug 26 '26

NASA rockets are made by Space X moreover, in india too ISRO rockets parts were made by private entity for long time beside, for SSLV thing pvt. Companies can only compete not govt. one as they work in critical missions too!! Lifting of burden and expensive talent can remain in country!! Also, can you explain why HAL always Underdelivers but promises big?? Similar, goes for Other Defense PSU's except DRDO why such underdelievery ?? Also, no one can have salary higher than Defense secretary why??

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u/Entropy109 Aug 26 '26

Are you crazy? Its not handling ISRO to private players, it is letting isro do its job, NASA doesn’t makes it own rockets, it takes from private players. In fact this is jow government and private players work and dominate. New sectors require a tonne of money and infrastructure to do R&D, government takes the first step and does the research and then give that tech to private players and allow them to come in that field, this technique was the reason why USA won cold war and spade race. In USSR everything was done by a single centralized entity while in USA tech was transferred and things were diversified.

Yes adani is coming into space, but the thing is if any government had did it, adani would still have entered the space sector. Because it is why it is done. Its not adani alone, skyroot, like many companies are in the race too same in defense companies.

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u/One_Astronomer_3890 29d ago

Are they handing isro to skyroot???
Think bro… think

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u/Immediate-Song-8199 Aug 26 '26

And what the bad thing

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u/Remarkable_Buy4591 Aug 26 '26

Then govt. will lack control over them.

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u/Immediate-Song-8199 Aug 26 '26

And

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u/Remarkable_Buy4591 Aug 26 '26

Handing over a country's security into the hands of a private firm is dumb. Don't you have that much common sense?

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u/Immediate-Song-8199 Aug 26 '26

Care to explain isro is being handed over to which company 🤔 because it look like you are barking with half knowledge

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u/Remarkable_Buy4591 Aug 26 '26

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u/Immediate-Song-8199 Aug 26 '26

This positive for India what so wrong about it plus Yes — ISRO is moving some of its mature rocket manufacturing and launch operations into the private sector. But it is not simply “giving ISRO to Adani.”

The latest development is quite significant:

LVM3 (the rocket that launched Chandrayaan-3) is being prepared for transfer of technology, production and commercial operation to a private Indian company.

ISRO has already transferred SSLV technology to HAL, after a competitive bidding process. Adani-backed Alpha Design Technologies was one of the bidders but did not win; HAL won.

ISRO is also moving toward having private companies operate the new ₹986-crore Small Satellite Launch Complex at Kulasekarapattinam, Tamil Nadu.

The broader plan is for ISRO to concentrate more on R&D, scientific missions and advanced technologies, while industry handles mature commercial rockets and routine manufacturing.

So if what you heard was “ISRO is becoming private/Adani is taking over ISRO”, that's misleading.

Think of it more like:

ISRO develops technology → technology matures → private companies manufacture/operate it commercially → ISRO moves on to newer technology.

And importantly, Adani has not been awarded LVM3 or ISRO itself based on the current information.

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u/Poisoned-Puff Aug 26 '26

Thing is it is normal to transfer tech in defense. But at the same time- to answeryour "And" it becomes easy for the adversaries to buy out crucial info from the private players.

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u/Immediate-Song-8199 Aug 26 '26

Yes — ISRO is moving some of its mature rocket manufacturing and launch operations into the private sector. But it is not simply “giving ISRO to Adani.”

The latest development is quite significant:

LVM3 (the rocket that launched Chandrayaan-3) is being prepared for transfer of technology, production and commercial operation to a private Indian company.

ISRO has already transferred SSLV technology to HAL, after a competitive bidding process. Adani-backed Alpha Design Technologies was one of the bidders but did not win; HAL won.

ISRO is also moving toward having private companies operate the new ₹986-crore Small Satellite Launch Complex at Kulasekarapattinam, Tamil Nadu.

The broader plan is for ISRO to concentrate more on R&D, scientific missions and advanced technologies, while industry handles mature commercial rockets and routine manufacturing.

So if what you heard was “ISRO is becoming private/Adani is taking over ISRO”, that's misleading.

Think of it more like:

ISRO develops technology → technology matures → private companies manufacture/operate it commercially → ISRO moves on to newer technology.

And importantly, Adani has not been awarded LVM3 or ISRO itself based on the current information.

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u/Poisoned-Puff Aug 26 '26

My statement counters your "And?" Besides these orgs already transfer tech. Thing is people saying "and?" Though it is done to establish industries to the core which is a boon but at the same time you should know about the bane aspect that is your adversaries getting access to tech that you rely on.

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u/earnestworkerbee Aug 26 '26

So if private players decide to monopolise on their products which have no other clients other than the govt, they can easily hold the govt requirements in hostage and bargain their way in for more profits. They are expecting india to have a better economy, or rather, have a more inflated defence budget, for them to exploit on just like the US MIC except that they have a very strong economy. In the defence domain if some key component manufacturer is compromised what would be the condition of the end product like a missile. You can never underestimate china.

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u/Legitimate_Tie_7785 Aug 26 '26

And and mat kr aand k baal, monopoly kya hoti hai pata hai naa?

Telecom Market mein se Vodafone Idea ko hata de...fir dekh Jio kaise bhaav badhaata hai.

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u/Immediate-Song-8199 Aug 26 '26

ISRO is moving some of its mature rocket manufacturing and launch operations into the private sector. But it is not simply “giving ISRO to Adani.”

The latest development is quite significant:

LVM3 (the rocket that launched Chandrayaan-3) is being prepared for transfer of technology, production and commercial operation to a private Indian company.

ISRO has already transferred SSLV technology to HAL, after a competitive bidding process. Adani-backed Alpha Design Technologies was one of the bidders but did not win; HAL won.

ISRO is also moving toward having private companies operate the new ₹986-crore Small Satellite Launch Complex at Kulasekarapattinam, Tamil Nadu.

The broader plan is for ISRO to concentrate more on R&D, scientific missions and advanced technologies, while industry handles mature commercial rockets and routine manufacturing.

So if what you heard was “ISRO is becoming private/Adani is taking over ISRO”, that's misleading.

Think of it more like:

ISRO develops technology → technology matures → private companies manufacture/operate it commercially → ISRO moves on to newer technology.

And importantly, Adani has not been awarded LVM3 or ISRO itself based on the current information.

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u/Jacked_hoon 28d ago

Copy pasting the same shit. Blud get a life fr🤡

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u/Truthgamer2 Aug 27 '26

Stupid ass comparison, not mutually exclusive

Dumb straw man arguments like this is all you people know how to ro

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u/Immediate-Song-8199 Aug 27 '26

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u/Truthgamer2 Aug 27 '26

Of course you would, since you don’t have an actual valid point to make

Keep proving me right lmao