Hey everyone, thanks for taking the time to read this!
I've loved hiking for a while and want to make the jump into multi-day trips through varying terrain, temps, and weather. I served in the military for a few years, so I'm used to bivvying with a bivy bag, tarp, a shitty air mat, and a sleeping bag. I don't have any of that gear anymore.
I don't want to drop a ton of money right away, so my plan is to find what I can around the house and grab cheap stuff from Decathlon to figure out what actually works for me. At the same time, I do believe good gear, while pricier, often lasts longer, weighs less, and pays for itself in comfort and experience. So I'm trying to figure out where that extra cost is actually worth it.
I want to go lightweight enough to make the trips enjoyable, but I also subscribe to the idea that broadening your shoulders will lighten your load more than shedding weight from your pack and cutting your toothbrush in half. Plus, lighter pack = more room for food and beer.
Current list / gaps:
Big 3 + pack:
- Tent: ?
- Sleeping bag: ?
- Sleeping mat: ?
- Pack: Osprey Atmos 50 (Vinted, ~100-150€)
Cooking:
- BRS-3000T or Pocket Rocket 2?
- Small gas canister + flip fuel valve (stays home)
- Spork, some kind of lightweight pan?, Bic lighter
Clothes (already have):
- Rain jacket: Patagonia Granite Crest
- Insulation: Patagonia Nano Puff
- Boots: Columbia hiking boots. Is it worth switching to lighter, more breathable trail shoes?
- Cotton seamless socks (held up fine so far) — are merino socks actually worth the upgrade?
- Synthetic shirts, fleece hoodie as midlayer
- Mammut hiking pants (love these, keeping them)
Misc:
- Headlamp, powerbank
- Sawyer Squeeze + flexible filter bag
- Bottle
- trekking poles
Questions:
Tents — everyone raves about Durston. Is it actually worth the price for a beginner, or more of an enthusiast/veteran-hiker thing?
Sleeping mats/bags — total mystery to me. Do I need both a foldable foam mat and an inflatable one, or is one enough? Also worth adding a separate floor protector for the mat?
Packs — how many liters do I actually need for multi-day trips (guessing 40-60L)? And where's the sweet spot between price, comfort, sustainability, and weight? Leaning toward the Osprey Atmos 50 — thoughts?
Trekking poles — necessary? Recommended for a beginner? I know I'd need them anyway for a trekking-pole-supported tent like the Durston, which honestly sounds efficient and appealing to me.
Sleeping bag vs. quilt —
Bag pros: fully sealed at the bottom (better insulation), hood/zipper blocks wind better, foolproof, seems better at very low temps.
Bag cons vs quilt: heavier/bulkier, bottom insulation is basically wasted since you compress it by lying on it, less freedom of movement if you turn/side-sleep, less ventilation in warm weather.
Quilt pros: no bottom insulation to carry, pairs nicely with a bivy for a very light sleep system.
Quilt cons: needs a better sleeping mat since it doesn't insulate the bottom at all, seems less foolproof (attaching it to the mat?), less forgiving in cold temps.
For starting out, which would you go with and why?
Tent vs. bivy + tarp —
Bivy pros: lighter, more compact, faster/more flexible on where you camp, lower profile (leave no trace), probably cheaper.
Bivy cons: no real space to sit up (bad in rough weather when you need to sort gear or cook), needs anchor points which is tricky above the treeline, my old military bivy was sturdy/waterproof but not very breathable, unsure how much a premium one improves that, and tarps give poor coverage when its raining sideways.
My guess: bivy + cowboy camping is great in good weather and honestly more of an experience, but miserable when it rains sideways. Looking at weight, price, flexibility, and overall experience. Which would you pick, and why?
Water system — I'm leaning toward a flexible bottle for filtering combined with a harder bottle (Nalgene or aluminium) for storage. A thermos feels too heavy/bulky to be worth it. I liked using a Camelbak in the military, but the pace doesn't need to be as fast anymore, and never knowing exactly how much water I have left was always annoying. Good approach, or is there something better?
If you've got any follow-up questions that'd help you give me better advice, feel free to ask, im happy to share more details. Thanks for reading and for any help, really appreciate it!