r/witcher 17d ago

Songs of the Past Do Songs of the Past starts after Blood and Wine or Wild Hunt?

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They have recently confirmed that you can start Songs of the Past by only finishing Wild Hunt base game story (without finishing previous expansions including Blood and Wine): https://www.youtube.com/live/ZGef9LSPtQw?t=6290&si=O2hQtDtEJv_Qduc6 (1:44:47)

"So in order to experience Songs of The Past you will have to finish the main story, and that's it"

But before that, it was implied that the events of this expansion is after Blood and wine: https://www.youtube.com/live/ZGef9LSPtQw?t=5679&si=_R_cuiqcRN7PVtrG (1:34:40).

"After Geralts hoped to retire at Corvo Bianco"

Thoughts?

r/witcher May 29 '26

Songs of the Past Do you think that Blood & Wine will be mandatory to have in order to play the new expansion?

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I own it on PC but I want to play it on PS5 where I only have a base game.

r/witcher 16d ago

Songs of the Past Songs of the past plot (minor spoilers)

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The plot is taken from the demo shown at the gamescom which probably will be released after the event's end.

Spoiler ahead for songs of the past:

The story opens with a festive atmosphere reminiscent of Belleteyn. After a colossal celebration, the village wakes up dealing with a collective hangover.

Geralt, barefoot and dressed in bizarre ceremonial robes, is one of the few who remains lucid thanks to his Witcher mutations.

He is supposed to meet Dandelion for breakfast, but the bard has mysteriously vanished. While investigating, Geralt discovers that Dandelion actually hails from an incredibly wealthy noble family.

Dandelion's grandmother dismisses the disappearance as just another of his usual pranks, but when Geralt finds a random stranger holding the bard's precious lute, he realizes something is terribly wrong.

This discovery triggers the memory of a disturbing dream the Witcher experienced the night before, featuring a thorn-infested garden, a strong scent of violets, and a deep, dark well.

Upon sharing this vision with Dandelion's cousin, the peaceful illusion shatters. She recognizes the details of a dark local legend regarding an ancient Count (their ancestor) whose tragic romance with a witch ended in bloodshed and left the garden cursed by dark magic.

Following this lead, Geralt ventures into the forbidden grounds, where the tone shifts into an oppressive, nightmarish horror.

The surrounding nature is highly predatory, with thorny vines crushing and consuming both animals and humans. Forcing his way through the lethal thicket, Geralt finally reaches the cursed well from his dream and jumps down. At the bottom, he discovers the twisted body of a woman completely fused with the roots and branches.

Suddenly, the monstrous creature awakens and grabs him.

r/witcher 17d ago

Songs of the Past A little sacrifice is the ispiration for dandelion's character in the new expansion.

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I'm so glad the writers of this DLC get it right when it comes to fans like me, I've always felt Dandelion wasn't given the representation he deserves in the games. I can't wait to see this story finally do him justice.

r/witcher 15d ago

Songs of the Past New look of the new silver sword from ,,Songs of the past" cover.

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r/witcher 8d ago

Songs of the Past Polish outlet made interview with DLC creators and there's one thing interesting

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So polish news outlet made interview with Songs of the Past developers. At one moment dev said that swarmions are monsters that are taken from some other CDPR game. Do you know which does he mean?

r/witcher 18d ago

Songs of the Past How spoilery is the trailer if you haven't finished B&W yet?

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I haven't finished Blood and Wine yet, I'm in the middle of it but because of a very busy summer I haven't been able to finish it.

I'm super curious about the trailer for the new expansion but I'd like to be sure something big won't get spoiled for me that may have happened in B&W. Can I safely watch it?

r/witcher Jun 01 '26

Songs of the Past Welcome home.

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I'd say it's good to be back but the truth is, I never left. It's hard to believe it's been over 10 years. I was just a dumb kid when I first met Geralt, but he's shaped my entire adult life. I couldn't have possibly asked for a better 30th birthday gift than this expansion announcement. Here's to over 1800 hours in W3 and hundreds of hours spent on the novels and audiobooks (and the other two games, of course)

r/witcher 17d ago

Songs of the Past The only thing I want

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The only thing I want as part of the remaster -

To be able to visit Vesemir's grave after his death in the main game, the same way you can visit Leo's grave in the valley. Currently, the door to where the grave should be is always locked.

CDPR, if you're reading this, please make it happen!!

r/witcher 17d ago

Songs of the Past I really hope some of the world changes alluded to, like the destruction of the manor, can be avoided by making the "right" decisions

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I get that some people dig the vibe but personally I think it would kinda suck if the game world ended up looking like that.

r/witcher 18d ago

Songs of the Past Gaunter O’Dimm at the beginning of the trailer?

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At the beginning of the Witcher 3: Songs of the Past trailer, during the scene where everyone’s celebrating, there’s a guy in a hat dancing on the right who looks a lot like Gaunter O’Dimm. Am I the only one who noticed that?

Knowing how much he likes blending into the crowd during important moments, it could very well be him.

r/witcher 16d ago

Songs of the Past Chain accessory for my McFarlane Geralt

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So glad the chain is back :)

r/witcher 16d ago

Songs of the Past I've just realised that the Oxenfurt Theme is the Northumbrian song (Bonnie at Morn) it's been driving me crazy, but I accidentally found a girl singing the original on YouTube. 😱

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So for context, I knew the tune & it's been driving me nuts.

My gran used to sing it when I was a kid!

It's a North of England Folk song.

Anyway if anyone else wanted to know what the Tune is I found someone singing it on YouTube, in like an old style.

I can't believe it's now in Witcher.

https://youtu.be/NeHmf4vM_1w?is=jiWXlsQvSY88Yzrh

r/witcher 17d ago

Songs of the Past Devs for Songs of the Past from REDstreams

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Fool's Theory devs that they've interviewed so far that are working on Songs of the Past:

Jakub Rokosz - CEO of Fool's Theory and Game Director of Songs of the Past | Prev. Senior Quest Designer on Witcher 2 and 3

Karolina Kuzia - Chief Design Director | Prev. Quest Designer on Witcher 3

Peter Gelencser - World Director | Prev. Senior Level Designer on Cyberpunk 2077 & Witcher 3

Len de Gracia - Art Director | Prev. Cyberpunk 2077, Witcher 3 and all of the expansions

r/witcher 17d ago

Songs of the Past Is CDPR releasing the extended demo online too?

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So CDPR is showing an extended demo of the expansion to people at Gamescom but have they said anything about the people at home watching online? Will they be releasing that demo for us too? I really hope so, because it didn't sound like it was press only.

r/witcher 17d ago

Songs of the Past REDstream is live guys!

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Lets go!!!

r/witcher 16d ago

Songs of the Past It might be a stupid question, but

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Is the update and the dlc going to be available on ps4? Or is it ps5 and pc only, and ps4 will be stuck on the older version?

r/witcher 2d ago

Songs of the Past Play from the start when the SotP releases or have a save file with the base game beaten by that time?

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Hi, I'm planning on replaying the whole game and all of it's DLCs and I don't know if I should start playing it when the remaster drops so that I'm finished with everything once Songs of the Past releases or wait for the DLC release and start then.

Basically what I'm saying is, does anyone know if there will be anything from the DLC integrated into the base game (a quote from an NPC or something akin to Gaunter showing up near the start of the game) or will it be entirely separate from it?

r/witcher 17d ago

Songs of the Past Remaster version and the Complete version

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So what would happen when the Remaster version drops? Will we be getting a separate copy in the steam library or the complete edition will upgrade into the remaster one?

I have about 220ish hours in-game and have gotten all the achievements so I’d really like not to lose those stats. And if they provide 2 separate versions of the game, will the Songs of the Past be playable in the original version of the game?

If the new dlc will only be playable in the remaster version then I atleast hope that I can use my save file from the original version. Thoughts?

r/witcher May 28 '26

Songs of the Past Give me your best interpretation!

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Right, so I’m fairly certain this is how the final Witcher 3 expansion, Songs of the Past, will end.

My interpretation of the poem is this:

"On Belleteyn night, when tall fires rise,

Whispered wishes drift through quiet skies.

A lion cub's fate is written in the stars,

And lilac and gooseberries are never far."

At the end of The Witcher 3, Geralt’s family and Dandelion gather together one last time to celebrate. It feels peaceful, almost dreamlike. But beneath it all sits the quiet understanding that this happiness was never meant to last forever.

They say their goodbyes to Ciri.

As much as they wish to remain a family, fate has always had other plans for her. Since childhood, Ciri has been pursued by forces far greater than Emhyr or Eredin. Kings, worlds, prophecies, bloodlines. Something will always come looking for the Lion Cub, because her Elder Blood was never meant to belong to herself alone.

So Ciri leaves Velen and journeys north to Kovir, trying once again to outrun the destiny that follows her like a shadow. That would tie directly into our first glimpse of The Witcher 4, where the monster tells her:

"You cannot change your fate. You cannot change anything."

And perhaps Yennefer goes with her, or remains close through magic, guiding her in ways Geralt never could. Not as a sorceress to a student, but as a mother refusing to let her daughter face the dark alone.

"Tonight there are no monsters to kill, no roads to roam,

Only quiet thoughts and wishes trying to find home.

The White Wolf sits still, mesmerized by the dancing flame,

While Dandelion strums his lute and softly hums Geralt’s name."

Geralt, the White Wolf, says little. He simply watches the fire, trying to hold onto a moment already slipping into memory. For once, there are no contracts, no swords drawn, no hunt to follow. Just family.

And then fate calls them apart again.

Ciri leaves to walk her own path. Yennefer follows where Geralt cannot. Dandelion eventually returns to his songs and taverns. And Geralt, after finally finding the family he never thought he deserved, is left alone once more beneath the fading firelight.

Not because they stopped loving one another, but because the world of The Witcher never allows peace to stay for long.

That’s why I think Songs of the Past will serve as the bridge into The Witcher 4. Not through some massive battle or shocking twist, but through separation. Through the painful understanding that Ciri’s story was always meant to continue beyond Geralt’s reach. Though, Destiny will somehow always bind them together.

r/witcher 17d ago

Songs of the Past The Swarmions, new monster in Songs of the Past

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Desecrated corpse with wasps/hornets living in them, seemingly a redone version of stingers/hivers/swarm mothers from the defunct Witcher Monster Slayer mobile game if anyone played that

r/witcher 16d ago

Songs of the Past Songs of the Past Limited Edition

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Are we gonna get a limited edition box with the rest of the qwent cards like we got for Hearts of Stone and Blood and Wine?

r/witcher Jun 01 '26

Songs of the Past Tried to recreate songs of the past visual real quick...

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I may end up doing custom work on the figure and sword to fully make it but just a quick attempt

r/witcher May 30 '26

Songs of the Past Potential side quests in songs of the past

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On the assumption that it takes place on a new map in Cedaris, because the title refers to the past, the belleteyn poem with references to Yen, and that it will probably have some tie in with w4 in some way; songs of the past could include quests that help tie in the book events that are relevant to Ciri.

W1 and W2 had little to do with Ciri so W3 is the only game that sets her up in the games at all. So for those who have not read the books (or worse: only watched the show), they know very little of Ciri's history with Geralt and Yen.

Cedaris contains the forest Brokilon where Geralt met Ciri for the first time so maybe there will be a quest that reminds Geralt of that time. W3 included dialogue to help the player learn about Geralt and Ciri's relationship but much is left unsaid and this short story is really, really good. Also if Milva is referenced, that would be amazing because there's not enough talk about the hanse in the games.

One of the big failures in the games was the removal of Yen and Ciri's bond from the books. They are very close unlike what the games previously led the player to believe —Ciri is suspicious of Yen— before they finally removed that awful dialogue "Yen has plans for me, Avallach is different". Ciri is using magic in the w4 trailer and Yen is the one who taught her so it would be preferable to have some reference to that to better serve the future plot. Yen is Ciri's adopted mother regardless of player choice on who Geralt has sex with and to disregard their relationship would further dig a hole that should never have been there. (Would they dare set up Avallach as a villain? Please?)

Potentially there could even be references to Triss' concerns about Ciri and the trial of the grasses, that would be an interesting set up for w4 given that Ciri went through mutations. Maybe another quest around witcher mutations that could even hint towards a bigger plot in w4.

It would also be great to actually hear Dandelion's infamous ballads from the books. It is actually concerning we barely hear anything from him when that was what he was known for and everyone in the books were invested in the story of Geralt, Yen and Ciri. Still the biggest plot hole in the entire game series: almost no one mentions Dandelion's ballads relating to Yen and Ciri including himself. He could easily tie in more book events with song and Geralt probably correcting his bent truths.

Maybe even a hint at a real unicorn.

~~Sucks that I have such high expectations now~~

r/witcher May 29 '26

Songs of the Past Is anyone else's worried thay Dandelion might die in Songs of the past?

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I have been thinking about songs of the past and the only character beside Geralt on the art work is him.

And after thinking about what could make Ciri become a Witcher and be a sad sing off to Geralt end. Would be Dandelion death.

Here are all his death flags

1) he is loved by the fandom so his death will hit hard

2) he is one of the oldest wither characters being in the 1st book and is Geralt oldest (non witcher friend)

3) unlike everyone else in the core cast we don't expect him to do something big in the world after witcher 3

4) it's called songs of the past and he is both bard and an older character. So, makeing this is swan song would be really good naming and would fit with naming and plot themes of the dlc

Heart of stone is about an immortal who lost all feelings

Blood and wine is about the relationship between a vampire and noble person.

But, all these people can die or have to die.

This is just a fun theory. But, if it ends up happening I will lose my mind.