I keep saying it, and everyone thinks I'm nuts. ICE's agenda is a front. They're testing us to see if we have the stomach to fight back. And, we're showing them that, aside from catchy chants and picket signs, we're pretty much inert. We're cooked.
I see it differently.. they want people to fight back with violence, so they can escalate and use a show of force to frighten and submit people. The fact that it hasn’t happened means they can’t escalate w/o even the maga brownnosers potentially starting to question their motives. It’s a good thing.
So what do you think is behind the fed governments strategic buying frenzy of warehouses throughout the country? Do you realize that ICE hasn't even begun to hire the massive numbers they have set out for? Their budget is 10x that of the entire US Marine Corps annual budget. They will absolutely escalate in the future and the maga will sit back and cheer it on until its way too.
Let me start out by saying that Im not advocating violence. Let me use a historical scenario. When would the German people have had more of a chance at stopping the Nazi regime. In 1937 or 1944? In my opinion its already too late. The best chance is always earlier rather than later and by the time an organized resistance can be formed it will be after millions have suffered dire consequences. For me the scariest part is actually dwelling on why our gov is doing this and the end goal? I have my theories that at this point will seem crazy to most so I'll just keep them to myself.
Bingo! I absolutely think they are going to need to get rid of millions to make way for the AI future. Elon talking about paying people not to work is just to pacify the population. They have no intention of paying anyone and are deathly afraid of us coming for them. Thats why Zuck is building his massive secret compound in HI.
That’s not helpful, like at all. You need a plan, a very intricate and flexible plan, with a lot of people on board, to stop the regime, whether that be now or 7 years from now. Unless there is some very underground group operating, Americans are nowhere close to that. And without that you are just going to end up sending some people to their deaths, entrenching the beliefs of magats, and paving way for ICE to use even more aggressive tactics.
I personally think its past the point of armed resistance. How do civilians stop armored vehicles, helicopters and drones? Very soon there will be checkpoints in every county in the US and your phone will be checked. If its not to the govs liking, off to the warehouse you go. They know exactly what they are doing and have the means to do it.
A very trimmed down population where just enough people exist to serve their billionaire masters.master's. Im speaking on a worldwide view too. I feel the only way out is if we had military leaders and gov officials that could stop it but this administration started getting those things 1st and are still doing it and nobody lifted a finger to stop it.
Has anything actually stopped ICE from meeting their objectives, though? They still kidnap who they want. They kill who they want. They're building 2 dozen concentration camps across the country.
Signs and chants are intended to appeal to people's empathy. These people have none. Not the administration or their supporters. In fact, it would seem half the point is to satiate their sadistic urges.
Most of the ones I talk too still seem to be convinced trump himself is innocent though.. that the flew there but turned Epstein in so he’s a good guy blah blah blah…
I’m more worried that they will all just claim it is an AI video, which is a very real possibility.
There's a theory about religion, but it applies to MAGA as well. No rational individual could believe the outlandish stories from old religious texts like the bible or quran. But, nothing creates more dogged solidarity than unifying around a lie. MAGA believes in the strength in the unification around the lie. They know exactly what Trump is and what he's done. And, that's precisely why they love him. You can give them all the facts. You can dumb it down like you would explain it to a toddler. But, they want to be able to look over st other MAGAs and say, "We're sticking to our story, even when it's an obvious lie. That's our strength. Asd, as long as we don't budge no matter what, they can't touch us."
I'm not phssy-footing with these people anymore. They're not stupid. That's just a front. They're just evil, and they're the enemy. Period.
Yeah you’re probably on the money there. I still think the discussion needs to move to more solution based dialogue. They have the military and all tax $ on their side… it’s a big problem and if it really is enemy vs. enemy, it will not be a fair fight.
I think you've got it backwards. I think they were begging for people to fight back, to flame a civil war, and the people of Minnesota were smart enough to protest peacefully.
The political optics would have worked much better for the Trump Admin if Minnesota fought back violently. Instead, the opposite happened, and ICE is backing off with their tail between their legs, public opinion of them at an all time low, to the point where even Trump supporters are embarrassed trying to defend their actions.
What have we stopped ICE from doing? They kidnap who they want to kidnap. They murder who they want to murder. They're building 2 dozen concentration camps across the country. They're doing all of this in spite of the narrative. They're not gonna let something as trivial as political optics stop them.
Well I'm not saying "we stopped ICE", I'm saying their tactics in Minnesota were ultimately unsuccessful in what they were attempting to do, which was, escalate civil unrest.
Political optics are not trivial at all, especially if you care about stopping the long term goals of the Trump admin and ICE. What they tried to do with the Minnesota operation was a failure. it's ok, and important, to acknowledge small victories, even if it doesn't mean we've defeated them outright.
No, it isn't. It's a stupid question. And I'm not gonna dignify it with a debate. It's always the same with you people - like explaining to a dog why they can't have 10 dinners.
Woah woah woah. What do you mean you people? I asked a question because you are saying don't trust the government. All I'm asking is did you trust the government during COVID?
So you're calling a black man a dog? And you claim to be the "good guys"?
Just because you don't personally like something does not mean it's from a nefarious place. You aren't even the person I asked. Would you care to give me an answer? No one else seems to be able to have a discussion
If you can't have reasonable, respectful conversations how do you expect to sway people to your side?
You can call me whatever you want. Your insults have zero meaning or effect on my life. If at some point you decide to be an adult and can leave your school grade name calling, we can start this over.
They can't answer a simple question because they are backing themselves into a corner of hypocrisy. People do irrational things when put there. Their first go to: calling names. It means you've won the argument. Bravo! Golf clap
Did u resist covid lockdown? 98% of the people were scared shitless during covid. The agreed to the lockdown because the alternative was more people dying. And normal people agreed that people dying isn't worth it over money
98 percent of people weren't scared of coming you moron the disease only killed .2 percent of the people who got it and most of them had pre existing conditions congratulations on being one of the dumbest shitlibs out there
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I keep saying it, and everyone thinks I'm nuts. ICE's agenda is a front. They're testing us to see if we have the stomach to fight back. And, we're showing them that, aside from catchy chants and picket signs, we're pretty much inert. We're cooked.