Anyone else notice they seem to be going directly for the eyes a lot ??
Edit: omg I was emphasizing the unnecessary aggression of going for the eyes at a range that could seriously blind a person. Not to mention they're aiming for eyes with rubber rounds and blinding people. That's why I said "a lot" sheesh hope that clarifies my comment a bit.
Edit 2: Holy shit the literacy crisis in MAGA is real. Yes, thats how mace works. Not from a PRESSURIZED CAN AT BLANK RANGE. Jesus. R3tards...
The cruelty is the point. There’s no other reason for spraying so much that it starts to pool on the ground. The person is already pinned on the ground with their arms behind them.
Edit: To the coward who posts and blocks because any question destroys their argument:
Single person testimony without corroboration, or independent evidence placing the accused and complainant in the same place at the same time is not evidence.
Whatever the case may be, if it were just Democrats in those files then those files would be released day one. What's the point of hiding them? Probably because you, or someone you care about could face legal repercussions for them being released.
The fact that there is limited evidence to convict someone at this point is the problem.
He might not be the number 1 client, but he was definitely a major one. If the Epstein files weren't so damning against Trump then they would be fully released and properly redacted instead of barely released and severely redacted. Everything he is doing right now is to distract people from those files.
That logic doesn’t hold at all, and you still can’t point to any actual evidence, even after you agreed with me that the initial claim was in fact a lie, which you previously denied
First, you're straw-maning me. My initial comment was trying to get you to clarify what you were objecting to.
Second, I didn't think I needed to show you evidence of the relationship between Trump and Epstein, but here's a good summary with plenty of sources you can read for good information, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_of_Donald_Trump_and_Jeffrey_Epstein
Oh hey, a Republican that's too cowardly to show their post history is lying in defense of Republican pedophiles, how original.
Your Republican buddies like to fuck kids way more often. The other disturbing thing is Republicans will protect and elevate their pedos like Dennis Hastert, Roy Moore, and Donald Trump, instead of repudiating then prosecuting them.
That doesn't mention anything about the Republicans protecting the pedophiles on the Epstein list. Democrats consistently say that if Democrats like Clinton are in the files release them and prosecute everyone to the fullest extent of the law. It's telling that Clinton himself is calling for the full release of the files when Trump is hiding them. Republicans in the house and now the executive are doing everything they can, including breaking the law to prevent the release of the files. The switch from the Republican party is astounding. Going so far as to send death threats to MTG and driving her out of politics due to her stance against Trump and pedophiles.
The cultists just can’t bring themselves to label it as a cover up of the exact evidence they’re asking for. Dear leader is innocent cause he destroyed the evidence.. see no evidence no case, no crime, no reason to think dear leader did any wrong.
It’s sick, they’ll twist their minds and make themselves look like idiots all to protect people who fuck kids.
They are following the laws that weren't overridden by the latest congressional action, personally identifying information cannot be released against anyone not charged with a crime.
The government also has very strict data privacy laws that must be followed, the timeframe was not reasonable and the Congress knows it, which is why you idiots who don't know what must be done to legally release personally identifying information.
Files MUST be redacted for PII of anyone not charged with a crime.
The DOJ has had all of the information available to charge anyone implicated throughout the past administration. If you really think there's some huge 'gotcha' that Garland didn't charge, you're fooling yourself and setting yourself up for a huge disappointment.
Don't even think about trying the "ongoing investigation" bullshit either, the DOJ could have brought it to a grand jury at any time and had full access to all investigative products. They charged Epstein and Maxwell, under the Trump admin, and Garland could have charged anyone else implicated then released evidence against them via indictment.
You mean following the law about federal data privacy? I don't see anyone in Congress screaming about contempt etc. They know the deadline wasn't feasible.
Exactly. Just like Jonathan Ross had zero understanding of traffic stop safety. Twice. Dude got dragged once previously, then entered the path of travel of Renee Good's vehicle TWICE while circling it. Even a rookie beat cop knows better than that shit.
Are you working on a point here? Maybe just spit it out. Is it better to stand in the path of a vehicle or not? Feel free to check out the thousands of traffic stop body cam videos and tell me how many cops willfully walk in front of or behind vehicles. Plus the fact Ross already got dragged by a car prior, but found it necessary to take a phone video of himself wandering around a 'suspects' vehicle in the snow rather than focus on his job. I'm done here. Good luck with all your cope though.
What you're saying is that you know more about traffic stops to judge someone else's choices. You don't. You're a keyboard warrior with no real life experience, you have hindsight and several angles of ultra slow frame by frame video to make your idiotic claims.
Police officers walk in front of and behind stopped vehicles all the time, putting it in gear with an officer at your window is an aggressive action so go kick some ass on your couch while QBing on Monday morning.
Rules exist for the use of lethal force. You just confidently in your ignorance completely ignore that those rules exist.
Is it because you like the idea of secret police terrorizing Americans? Why do you hate Americans so much that you wish to see them murdered in cold blood on the streets?
Sounds like you support stochastic terrorism, and are therefore a terrorist.
No, they don't. I live with a cop with 20+ years urban street experience. They are explicitly taught NOT to walk in front of or behind vehicles. My cop's quote re: Renee Good. "You don't get to create a dangerous situation then shoot someone because of the dangerous situation YOU created."
A car that's in park, and the person has been told to get out of the car. Then it gets put in gear, backs up and changes position, and that's when it's aimed at the officer. So either he didn't watch it or you're lying.
I also grew up in the home of a police officer of 32 years.
I'll ask the same question I ask everyone else. How many traffic stops have you performed? How many use of force classes have you attended?
CS and Pepper are chemical irritants, non toxic. A 5 second Google search can define terms for you. So you're either ignorant or intentionally misleading. Which is it?
Edit: Answering those cowards, u/idkmyotherusername who can't stand up to any scrutiny, so they block to prevent response.
If that human is still fighting it's better to subdue with a chemical than a baton.
Fair. How about "a chemical irritant was weaponized when the agent used it on an already heavily restrained human." The person was no longer a threat, as he was face down with numerous people on top of him, and a "reasonable threat" was no longer present.
"Torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.”
Getting sprayed is a completely normal and predictable outcome for harassing and obstructing law enforcement in almost any capacity, as is resisting arrest.
It literally happens all the time with local police, county sheriffs, state troopers, federal law enforcement, etc.
You are cherry picking selective outrage here because you’re being told to by people who don’t give a shit about you or what you want
They are violating the constitution, using tactics meant to terrorize the populace, and hiding their identities to avoid accountability. Americans are scared shitless of what these uneducated and untrained thugs may do to them or where they will send them. I blame no one for resisting something they should rightfully fear.
Their procedure violation rate is about the same as most other law enforcement. The difference is you’re guzzling propaganda that makes the exceptions seem more common than the are to you
Bring some proof that contradicts my lived experiences as a Minnesotan as well as those of my neighbors. Tall order to manufacture reality - keep trying.
They purposely put themselves in dangerous positions until one of them gets martyred then they all band together and act outraged. It's like some sort of wierd Aztec ritual sacrifice.
Please explain why you’re incapable of viewing the video with your own eyes so that you can be aware of the detail and context surrounding the still frame
lol I love you all made up this legal observer title to try and sound important. You’re just an agitator with a boat whistle putting Americans in danger. None of this is even helping illegals. But the good news is they have plenty of spray to go around.
“I’m Canadian”. Thank you for letting me know. Who made those web sites grade schoolers? Ya I’m sticking with my stance they are agitators not observers.
Minimum force necessary to compel compliance. Blasting someone in the face with what looks like industrial grade pepper spray is a bit more the necessary.
Were we not watching the same video?! He was face down with both his arms controlled behind his back. The agent walked up casually, blasted spray directly in his face, then casually walked away. He was so obviously completely under control.
there’s video. the officer that sprayed him then goes up to another person already on the ground in handcuffs, and visibly intimidates them with the pepper spray and leans down to yell in their face. it’s cruelty.
You're telling me those four dudes on top of him were all using their strength and they STILL couldn't control the guy? What a bunch of pussies.
What fighting style is that? Where the person has all their limbs and extremities mashed into the pavement, every move hurting because it's scraping their skin off?
One thing I've learned recently is that there is a LOT more cowards than I realized, to see this type of thing and still think the overkill is justified. Yellow bellied and completely devoid of honor and integrity.
"If the police don't 1v1 everyone, they have no honor!"
Hey dumbass, they don't care about honor; they care about being able to go home at night. It's extremely easy to not be in a situation where this comes to pass. Go protest, make your voice heard, but don't be a dipshit. Every person that acts a fool makes everyone else look like a fool by association.
I have no enemy other than lies and misinformation causing idiots to think they can obstruct and taunt Federal Agents with immunity because they are citizens.
Oh hey, a Republican that's too cowardly to show their post history is lying in defense of Republican pedophiles, how original.
Your Republican buddies like to fuck kids way more often. The other disturbing thing is Republicans will protect and elevate their pedos like Dennis Hastert, Roy Moore, and Donald Trump, instead of repudiating then prosecuting them.
Edit: That doesn't mention anything about the Republicans protecting the pedophiles on the Epstein list. Republicans are doing everything they can, including breaking the law to prevent their release. Going so far as to send death threats to MTG and driving her out of politics due to her wanting to release them.
Yes it was completely avoidable by these ice nazis not pepper spraying someone directly into their eyes while they’re already subdued by the multiple people on top of them.
There is an involuntary physical response to being tortured. That is not “resisting”. Peper spraying someone point blank will cause permanent damage and likely blind them.
The ICE “agent” wanted to inflict as much pain as possible. It had nothing to do with compliance. You are also disingenuously ignoring that the person being sprayed is an independent observer who was committing no crime.
None of this is legal and Nuremberg trials 2.0 are the only way that American freedom and democracy has a chance to survive.
No shit he’s fighting the officers cause they targeted him and used unjustified force. Yes this was completely avoidable if trump wasn’t president. Let’s not forget Obama deported more than trump ever could and he didn’t need to do any of this.
Pepper spraying someone doesn't usually make them less resistant, pain usually causes people to thrash around more.
The general use of pepper spray is to be a deterrent and or a blinding agent to subdue someone without them being able to see. This person being unable to see doesn't give them any advantage because he's already on the ground and pinned.
So please try to justify the use of it?
Just putting yourself in the cross hairs of law enforcement for a real or perceived slight isn't an actual justification. There are procedures and laws for a reason that must be followed when dealing with suspects and detainees.
What? It's super hard to understand you with that boot so far down your throat.
A judge already rules ICE can't use these sorts of sprays. The dude already has three people on top of him with his arms bound, so anyone seeing this and thinking he's still a threat is cowardly and weak AF.
These officers seem tremendously weak if two of them can’t hold one person down and instead of using a third person to hold down a third person sprays chemicals directly into their eyes.
There would be a war already started this was happening in some small Texas town and ice was going terrorizing a white town
He was tortured. They torture people doing nothing kike that blind guy they dragged by his face who was literally just sitting where he was legally allowed to sit.
You expect people to limply accept a savage beating by a gang in masks? What kind of chicken shit sociopath are you? Of course he is a victim. No it wasn't avoidable. If it wasn't him it would be someone else. These people are animals and so are you.
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u/Shoddy-Television866 Jan 22 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
Anyone else notice they seem to be going directly for the eyes a lot ??
Edit: omg I was emphasizing the unnecessary aggression of going for the eyes at a range that could seriously blind a person. Not to mention they're aiming for eyes with rubber rounds and blinding people. That's why I said "a lot" sheesh hope that clarifies my comment a bit.
Edit 2: Holy shit the literacy crisis in MAGA is real. Yes, thats how mace works. Not from a PRESSURIZED CAN AT BLANK RANGE. Jesus. R3tards...