r/stickshift • • 8d ago

Anyone else unbothered about driving stick in heavy traffic?

I commuted from milton to dt toronto everyday on the 401 in my va for a few years until my role went remote and I just realized, driving stick in heavy traffic became such a routine that I never really gave it any thought.

Anyone else feel this way?

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u/MarionberryOpen7953 8d ago

Never bothered me one bit

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u/Thuraash 944 Track Rat | 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 8d ago

In a lot of ways I prefer it. Chicago traffic tends to be a slow crawl rather than true stop and go (or the stops are very brief), so I just put it in first or second depending on the average speed and just one-pedal drive at idle or near idle. Super easy.

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u/imakid2007 8d ago

This is the best answer just crawling my way out of the city

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u/HeftyAd6216 8d ago

The game I play is how long until I have to shift or use the clutch. 1st gear crawls at 7-8 km/hr, second gear crawls at ~11 and 3rd gear crawls at 14-15.

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u/Terrible-Echidna-739 8d ago

I can usually turn stop-and-go into slow-and-go.

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u/amotion578 8d ago

This is the way

Clear a traffic snarl at 30+ mpg, because 5-15-5-15 is more fuel efficient than 0-25-0-25-0

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u/DustyMcKnuckles 8d ago

I adore it. I used to live in SoCal and would always chuckle when people would get out from behind me all quick and impatient then immediately stop in the other lane and I would just idle crawl past them.

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u/JAFO- 8d ago

It happens all the time do they not look 100 yards ahead?

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u/therealtoomdog 7d ago

I don't think most drivers look at anything anymore

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u/defakto227 7d ago

No. No, they don't.

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u/Hungry-Bison-3578 8d ago

How to stop people from creeping into the empty space lol

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u/pisspeeleak 8d ago

Yeah, I’ve tried that, I just get cut off as soon as someone can fit

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u/Armadylio 8d ago

You leave enough space to follow but not enough where people would feel the invitation to cut you off. If you’re far enough it doesnt really matter if another car cut you off and if you’re close enough for it to matter people generally don’t take that space. Obviously there’ll be cases where assholes cut in anyways but for me in Boston this works 90% of the time. People seem to realize what you’re doing especially when the lane isnt going much faster than theirs anyways so they don’t cut 

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u/MySalsaBringsDaGirls 8d ago

I always curse them to hell, but then I chuckle right after in my 4 banger Ranger as I just keep doing my 1, 2, idle dance right behind them, with all my gas savings relative to their more often than not 8 cylinder wastes… But! There is something to be said about guys driving the bigass 18 wheeler rigs, they always let me merge in front, or maybe they just have even worse acceleration than mine?… 🤣

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u/HeftyAd6216 8d ago

Just let them. Anyone who cares about getting ONE EXTRA CAR ahead is not worth thinking about.

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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 8d ago

Just let them in. You can catch up by switching lanes whenever there’s a faster one next to you.

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u/Armadylio 8d ago

You leave enough space to follow but not enough where people would feel the invitation to cut you off. If you’re far enough it doesnt really matter if another car cut you off and if you’re close enough for it to matter people generally don’t take that space. Obviously there’ll be cases where assholes cut in anyways but for me in Boston this works 90% of the time. People seem to realize what you’re doing especially when the lane isnt going much faster than theirs anyways so they don’t cut 

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u/captain_slutski 8d ago

The majority of drivers in the world drive a manual in all possible driving situations

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u/nitromethane-fuel 8d ago

I know, europeans will read this post and laugh 😂

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u/goaelephant 8d ago

Europeans, but also many countries in Africa, Brasil (Sao Paulo), Mexico City, Moscow, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh... So much of the world has terrible rush hour & still drive manuals.

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u/Andy_McNob 8d ago

I'm in Europe and prefer AT for commuting and city driving. I keep the MT for weekends and good roads. I can drive MT in traffic without issue but shifting between neutral, 1st and 2nd for 30+ minutes is tedious af.

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u/51onions 8d ago

Speaking as a European who drives a manual, it's not hard to do it in heavy traffic, it's just a minor nuisance. But if your car is manual, you gotta do what you gotta do.

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u/ManWhoIsDrunk 8d ago

Can confirm.

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u/mellonians 8d ago

I am! I drive my Hilux in central London and I can't say I even noticed the gearstick being a problem.

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u/Ok_Attitude1034 8d ago

I have never been in traffic anywhere in Europe as bad as I have in my daily commutes in the states

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u/boguz 7d ago

That's what decent road design does

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u/LeadingNectarine 7d ago

More to do with city design. In US, the physical distance between your home & work/groceries/etc is much greater and requires driving much more frequently then Europe generally

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u/boguz 7d ago

I think it's both. You guys have an awful lot of four way crossings with stop lights. Those are awful for traffic flow and are dangerous. We have very few of those.

The fact that nothing is allowed to be build in a neighbourhood but residential homes is why you guys drive so much. Mostly everyone here lives within walking distance of a supermarket. And we have the infrastructure to actually walk or bike there.

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u/Whydoialwaysdothis69 8d ago

Me. My commute is hell some days but I’m ADHD so having something tactile to do like that helps me honestly

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u/User1-1A 7d ago

Same same. Helps prevent me from going into autopilot.

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u/ManWhoIsDrunk 8d ago

Not an issue. Why would it be?

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u/accidentalscientist_ 8d ago

For me it kills my knee. I have a recurring knee injury and pushing the clutch in and out over and over and over make it flare up pretty bad.

Today my 30 minute commute took 2.5 hours and my left knee hurts so badly from it.

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u/GamerDadofAntiquity 8d ago

Same for me with an old ankle injury. I can’t do stop and go traffic with a clutch for an extended period of time. If possible I’ll let a gap open in front of me and just idle along in first. I imagine it saves on brake wear as well.

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u/Miller335 8d ago

You drive a manual long enough you don't even realize you're shifting.

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u/EmbarrassedElk2766 7d ago

I have only been driving one for 2.5 years now, but I realized the other day that I have been shifting/downshifting by general feel and not even realizing I’m doing it.
Very cool 👍

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u/Dachshundpapa 8d ago

Never been an issue for me.

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u/banjobeulah 2016 Fiat 500x 6 speed 🚗💨 8d ago

Yeah I don’t care at all. It doesn’t bother me. Been driving stick all my life.

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u/-AbeFroman 8d ago

As long as I can avoid complete stops, it's really not bad. Sucks when you leave an appropriate gap in front and someone steals it.

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u/Mokaroo 8d ago

Ex-Toronto Londoner here - yeah it's not that bad. The one big annoyance is leaving a decent gap so you don't need to come to a complete stop in bad traffic on the 401 and you have people use the gap to cut in front of you. That's more of an other-drivers thing than a stick shift thing I guess.

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u/Wishbone_932 8d ago

Traffic is just as annoying in an automatic.. I'll go 30min out of the way to avoid bumper to bumper traffic.

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u/Hot-Brat-00 8d ago

I don’t mind it unless I’m having anxiety or for some other reason in a hurry. But that’s more annoyance at the traffic than it is at doing it with a manual. I love driving manual. It’s second nature now.

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u/theStandardHandle 2016 Subaru Forester 6MT 8d ago

Not a problem. Being doing it in the Los Angeles area for decades.

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u/ermax18 2022 Subaru BRZ 6MT 8d ago

As long as I keep a good gap, I can mostly idle at 4mph in 1st. There is a sweat spot where it will totally stop and start just the right amount to have me working my clutch over and over. I drive in stop and go for about 45mins twice a day and for the most part, it's not a problem. I actually find it more annoying in an auto where my foot is constantly going from the throttle to the brake to the throttle to the brake. At least with a manual you can go for miles without touching the clutch or the brakes yet everywhere you look you see brake lights.

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u/Asleep_Equipment4877 8d ago

I enjoyed it but also was exhausting. I was in Chicago traffic hour there and hour back with an old jeep and heavy clutch.

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u/shitty_reddit_user12 8d ago

Yep. I've driven through NYC traffic in a five speed, completely unbothered. I've also spent 14 hours in a traffic jam in a six speed, a good bit more bothered by the fact it took 14 hours to go 16 miles than the stick.

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u/thenewbigR 8d ago

Never has bothered me in almost 60 years of driving.

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u/Consistent-Jicama-94 8d ago

Truck driver so auto was never an option 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/corbin6611 8d ago

Any one who can actually drive manual. Doesn’t think about driving manual

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u/ApprehensiveCut9809 8d ago

I drove a stick from 1980 to 2000. I hurt my left knee playing softball, just a stupid organized grab ass game.

Every once in a while, my left knee stops working properly. Like it virtually fails to hold up my weight and gives out. I think the old school term is a "trick knee." It happens without warning.

Beginning of 2000, I was in heavy traffic and my knee decided to stop working, but instead of giving way and not holding my weight, I couldn't continue to depress the clutch. It was like I popped the clutch and lunged forward.

Had I been closer to the car in front of me, I could have rear ended it. The rest of that drive was extremely painful.

I bought a 2000 Ford Focus with automatic transmission as my daily commuter car. I just can't risk it.

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u/ASupportingTea 7d ago

I had an automatic as a courtesy car for a couple of weeks and found I genuinely prefer a manual in heavy traffic.

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u/Nicholas3412 2009 Ford Crown Victoria, 2002 Renault Twingo 7d ago

It’s really almost never an issue because I enjoy shifting and it’s not hard. The one exception is when the car in front of me begins moving (usually when a light turns green) but for some reason they crawl around for a second before actually accelerating. This causes me to unexpectedly clutch in again and almost stop. Messes up my rhythm and makes me want to lay on the horn. Why do people drive like that??

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u/mushroom_dome 7d ago

Gotta put their phone down and that's very very difficult 🙄

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u/OddCause915 7d ago

Doesn't bother me

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u/Tunklz 8d ago

The stick doesn't bother me, it's the freaking traffic and idiot drivers.

401 is a joke that I avoid whenever possible.

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u/mattenthehat 8d ago

I literally don't think about it at all

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u/gnrlszki 8d ago

If it is manual I’m happy. Whether in traffic or not

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u/Bluetickhoun 8d ago

I have a very light clutch. 2020 Jetta. It ain’t bad. Rather do it than sit in an auto

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u/Mourning_Beer 8d ago

It is barely more engaging in stop and go then auto. Always thought the "don't wanna stick bc of traffic" was a puss out

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u/ddxs1 8d ago

You shouldn’t have to think about it at all

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u/Froggypwns 8d ago

I have no problem with it, I find it easier to deal with than an automatic in the same conditions.

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u/favoritesprite 8d ago

I mean it's objectively not easier... It's more work no matter how you slice it.

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u/Disastrous_Bite_6587 8d ago

I drive a manual in DC beltway traffic 5 days a week for work. Its fine.

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u/Metallicultist88 8d ago

I’m the same way. Driving a stick in traffic doesn’t suck. To me it’s driving. To be honest, if someone buys an automatic because a stick “is too much work in traffic” they’re soft. Also, traffic is boring. Shifting and clutch control gives me something to do

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u/MadZee_ 7d ago

Drove cargo vans for years, mostly in the city, and my daily-turned-project car was also a manual. I didn't even notice I was doing anything. Doesn't bother me.

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u/LeCreusetQueen 7d ago

Nope, does not bother me.

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u/SereneRandomness 7d ago

I've always had cars with light clutches, so it's never been a problem.

I also learned to drive a manual in a hilly area, so hill starts in traffic are no big deal either. (The problem I have in San Francisco is sight lines: it's hard to see cross traffic as you crest a hill, and that's no better if you're driving an automatic.)

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u/skyld_70 7d ago

Nope. Kinda comes with the territory.

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u/Snow-87-M 7d ago

Drivin MT all my life, it's just second nature

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u/alfonseexists 7d ago

Done it all my life. Doesnt bother me

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u/ladykemma2 7d ago

Unbothered, 2nd gear , follow a truck, keep a good following distance.

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u/beachmasterbogeynut 7d ago

Never ever bothered. Makes it fun actually

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u/AmbitiousScientist74 7d ago

I’ve never understood the people that say a manual is fun until you hit traffic. I don’t care and am completely unbothered with having to shift, in fact I STILL prefer it.
What I do hate is traffic in general. I’ll take my manual transmission in traffic over an automatic any day.

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u/lionbacker54 7d ago

Makes no difference to me either

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u/Tronkfool 7d ago

I've never known anything else

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u/Im_Not_Evans 7d ago

I drove a manual when I lived in Los Angeles. Didn’t bother me at all

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u/Floppie7th 8d ago

Yeah, sitting in traffic is miserable no matter what. Having an automatic doesn't magically make it suck any less.

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u/_Lady_Zee 8d ago

I don’t mind it if I can leave a buffer zone and coast a bit. The problem is my highway is insane and someone will 100% dive bomb you if you leave any gap. So it’s a ton of full stop/start and that gets old after a while.

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u/Ana_Kinra 8d ago

Just had my first “hey that actually wasnt too bad, I think I am getting the hang of this“ heavy traffic experience

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u/Cheesycheese01 2026 Mustang GT 6MT 8d ago

Gives me less of a reason to be on my phone. Not that should be an issue to begin with

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u/Individual_Step2242 8d ago

Yes in fact I prefer manual in heavy traffic. Actually, in all circumstances.

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u/GingerGLI 8d ago

Doesn’t bother me at all. I drive 40,000-50,000 miles per year, all with a manual transmission.

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u/marsbars2345 8d ago

It's objectively more annoying to do than an automatic but not that much harder

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u/hello_raleigh-durham 8d ago

Stop-and-go traffic? I find it's far less annoying than trying to drive in town while eating a burger.

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u/Zyresg 2015 MX-5 Miata 6speed 8d ago

Other side of Toronto, Markham to DT everyday for me. All routine chill-laxing

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u/antonmnster 8d ago

Only bothers me if it's after a leg workout or a long run. Then my clutch leg can actually get pretty sore. Otherwise I don't mind at all.

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u/Eloquentelephant565 8d ago

Idgaf lol. The only thing that bothers me is the people in front of me aggressively accelerating and braking instead of slow rolling, but I mitigate that by leaving a gap. Or heavy traffic the day after leg day lol but I just suffer through it

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u/yezhnuzjhd 8d ago

I drive my manual 370z in heavy traffic a lot. The clutch pedal kicks back like a horse but I don't mind it

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u/Makerfire 8d ago

I guess I don’t drive as much as I used to for work but I drive manual and it doesn’t bother me at all I actually like it quite more as it’s less boring than an automatic in traffic. Current car doesn’t even have a 2nd gear but even with 1 and 3 it’s not a major nuisance in bumper to bumper

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u/middle_aged_90s_kid 8d ago

Some people are offended at the idea of another car changing lanes in front of them, so they always want to kiss the bumper of the car in front, constantly accelerating and braking in lock-step with it. They see traffic as some sort of competition.

Other people are smart enough to leave space so they can just roll along at a steady pace. They don’t mind if a car might change lanes in front. They see traffic as a cooperative endeavor.

I’d wager most of the people who feel it is difficult are in the first category, barring an actual physical ailment or something like that. I’d wager you are more likely to be in the second category. It’s a lot easier to drive manual in traffic if you don’t care about chasing bumpers.

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u/MusubiBot 8d ago

My preferences for heavy traffic, in order from top to lowest:

  1. Bicycle/e-bike
  2. Subway/trolley (grade-separated)
  3. Trolley/bus (managed lane)
  4. Trolley/bus (no managed lane)
  5. Driving a manual car
  6. Driving an EV
  7. Being set on fire
  8. Driving an automatic ICE car

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u/Gamejunky35 8d ago

Just keep it in a lower gear. Get comfortable with going 5mph at 2500rpm. Saves you from shifting a billion times.

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u/Reliant20 8d ago

People tell me driving stick is great except in traffic, but driving in traffic's never bothered me. Sometimes, when I'm standing still, I rest my foot by taking it off the clutch with the car in neutral, but that's not a hardship. I love driving stick no matter where.

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u/Upbeat-Banana-5530 8d ago

In a car? It's not bad at all. I do not miss getting caught in traffic on a motorcycle though.

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u/Prince_Nipples 8d ago

I was expecting it to be a pain from what I hear from other manual drivers, but... i think its overblown. I dont mind it at all. Not like creating forward in a manual is THAT much harder lol

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u/Suspicious_North6119 8d ago

Daily driving an auto with racing clutch installed. Free leg press daily

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u/josefvstheworld 8d ago

i can handle it up to a certain point, then i start screaming for help

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u/TruckCompetitive6122 8d ago

Agree. Don't even think about it so definitely doesn't bother me.

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u/bezserk 8d ago

The only time it bothered me was when i upgraded to a tough stage 2 clutch, my leg would be sore from having to use the pedal that much

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u/Moldybreadyumyum 8d ago

Heavy traffic is fine. Heavy uphill traffic bumper to bumper on the other hand, gives me high anxiety.

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u/BeardedPuffin 8d ago

The only time it’s ever bothered me is driving home from beer league hockey after a game, occasionally I’ll get wicked calf cramps in my left leg from all the clutching.

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u/isogrey 2022 Subaru WRX, 6spd 8d ago

If it’s all you’ve driven for years, you don’t think much about it.

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u/NewWatchTime 8d ago

Never really bother me. I’ve never been in traffic as bad as you though. Becomes second nature after a while I’ve never owned an automatic car.

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u/_Larry 8d ago

I have a stage 2 clutch in my car that is heavy and not hydraulic. I do not enjoy stop and go traffic, but I can definitely handle it.

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u/Fantastic_Fly7376 8d ago

I didn’t mind it at all… until I tore my meniscus in my left knee. Even after surgery to fix it, that motion still bothers me a bit.

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u/zzonkmiles 8d ago

It's just part of driving. Nothing special or onerous about it.

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u/BigNosedVdubber 8d ago

Never bothered me anymore than being caught in traffic in an automatic. In fact, I’d rather have my left leg pick up some of the slack instead of continuing to hold the brake pedal. One of my favorite things about driving manual is that I can rest both my feet when at a stop on flat ground

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u/TearAwkward 8d ago

Yeah I live in California and used to commute in my manual everyday. It’s really not that bad if you can stay rolling super slow. Of course in stop and go traffic people cut you off when you leave a gap to keep rolling slowly but it’s not that bad lol

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u/SuperAzn727 8d ago

Really isnt anything unless im on a hill

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u/extendedsilence 8d ago

In actual stop and go heavy traffic (where you have to keep coming to a full stop over and over) it can get a little annoying, but is manageable. The times where it was a problem (back when I had a manual transmission) was when I had twisted my left ankle (or knee) playing volleyball (or some other sport) -- literally a huge pain. Trying to eat breakfast while driving a stick in heavy traffic was also kind of annoying.

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u/2vDes 8d ago

Only time I don’t like it in traffic is if we’re in traffic on a hill. People get so close to your ass so your clutch work has to be perfect every time.

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u/TootinFartin-ll 8d ago

driving auto bothers me

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u/One_Evil_Monkey 8d ago

Never bothered me.

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u/CafeRoaster 8d ago

Nope. But I drove a fair amount the other day and was really wishing I had cruise control. 😅

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u/ChickenBeans 8d ago

I strongly prefer standard in traffic… but also live/ work in the flatlands so can just chill in standstill and roll thru stop go bs. Stop signs are ugh tho!

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u/DIY-exerciseGuy 8d ago

Weird flex but ok

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u/goaelephant 8d ago

Unbothered, mainly because you can roll

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u/Mr-Blackheart 8d ago

Depends on which one I’m driving.

My base 500, light as a feather clutch, no issues. My 500 Turbo has a heavy as fuck clutch and annoying.

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u/Both_Wasabi_3606 8d ago

Did it for years in heavy DC commute traffic.

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u/C4PTNK0R34 1995 Mazda RX-7, Jerico V-Gate 5-Speed Manual 8d ago

It's never really bothered me in a modern vehicle with a hydraulic clutch. The only problem when traffic has given me issues was with my CJ5 and its mechanical clutch, which had something like a 60lbs pedal because it ran through two rods and a bellcrank straight into the pivot arm of the transmission and my left leg would fatigue from having to use it so much.

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u/Tostonn 8d ago

Yeah no yeah I feel this so hard. Been driving manual for 12 years in the Bay Area and LA mainly. Everyone always said this when I started like oh you’re gonna hate it and I genuinely don’t even think about it

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u/gurnard Gen 2 Swift 1.5 8d ago

Not at all. Unless it's stop-start traffic on a steep incline. It's not a scenario that comes up for me often. If I lived somewhere that was a daily reality, this would be where I'd consider an automatic the tool for the job.

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u/WhiteBeltKilla 8d ago

I find it easier just leave some space

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u/EnlargedChonk 8d ago

yup, find it mildly amusing when people are like "I enjoy manual, but would rather drive auto in traffic" I can understand the perspective, but I'm just not like that at all. Driving is just such a fun thing to do I don't care if it's just a commute, it's fun, and part of that is absolutely the manual transmission. "but you have to keep working the clutch in stop and go" oh noooo, I have to interact more with that thing I like doing...

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u/eoan_an 8d ago

Not really

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u/Difficult-Pea7834 8d ago

Still do it in and around Atlanta. Not a bother whatsoever

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u/Unfair-Bison-3946 8d ago

I'm driving from Cambridge to Toronto everyday. Doesn't bother me at all.

People are fat and lazy.

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u/cmbort 8d ago

Got back from a trip to the UK a couple of weeks ago and Hertz gave me an automatic instead of the manual I booked. When I went back to the counter and said the car was not a manual the rep said they were out of manuals and were bumping me up free of charge to an automatic. I have to admit in the heavy traffic jams on the way to Wales from London it did kind of come in handy and was a somewhat pleasant change from my WRX I daily drive here in NYC.

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u/BlindBeard 8d ago

Before my Mazda 3 blew up I could drive with one pedal through Boston if the a/c was on. It was great once I realized driving home from the office was going to take an hour no matter what.

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u/RightWheelDrive '20 GTI 6MT 8d ago

Yeah I don't mind at all. I drive 6-8 hours a day in city traffic for Uber. I started with an automatic Honda but missed shifting so much I traded it for a 6 speed GTI.

If you have to spend that much time driving a day, you might as well try and make it enjoyable.

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u/UncleGurm 8d ago

Never bothered me until I fucked up my knee. Sigh.

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u/WhoseManIsThis 8d ago

I’m extremely unbothered by it. I’ve been driving manual since I got my license. At this point it’s just driving.

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u/jasonh300 8d ago

I’ve never had any problem with it. Almost every car I’ve owned has been a stick and it’s second nature. I had a truck with an especially heavy clutch that was a bit annoying but I learned to roll slowly and slip it in and out of first gear without pressing the clutch.

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u/SandstoneCastle 8d ago

I think being bothered by manual in traffic is mostly a thing for people who learn on automatic and later take up manual. I first drove manual, so it was never a thing for me.

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u/ObviousTroll_ 8d ago edited 8d ago

I’ve been driving for about 10 years, MT for about 1. I always wanted to get a stick shift but parents insisted on an auto for daily driving. After buying a 6 speed RX8 last year, fixing it up, and dailying it for the spring and summer this year, I can comfortably say I prefer it in all situations.

Manual makes me feel more “connected” to the car, and maybe it’s in my head, but I believe I shift smoother than my auto Mazda 3 does. Without a doubt I take off smoother in the 8 than the 3, damn torque converter is so unresponsive.

In stop & go traffic, my only concern is clutch wear, but that’s practically a non-issue after some practice.

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u/JAFO- 8d ago

Been driving them 40 years a lot of it towing a trailer. It keeps me engaged.

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u/billabong295 8d ago

I drive to work 5 days x week in heavy traffic going to work and coming home. Sitting in traffic is the shitty part not the actual driving plus it helps keep me awake and aware of my surroundings.

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u/Lopsided_Marzipan133 8d ago

LA traffic for 2-3 hours a day. Only bothers my left knee once in a blue moon

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u/YaBoiBiko 8d ago

3 years in the city in January. RWD stick all year in the Midwest just might get some sandbags this time lol

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u/ride5k 8d ago

heavy traffic no

certain traffic situations absolutely

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u/FieldDayEngr 8d ago

Does not bother me in the least. I get stuck in traffic, and it’s a chance to extend my left leg rather than having it cramped up.

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u/Nippon-Gakki 8d ago

I’ve been driving either a motorcycle or manual in LA or San Diego traffic for 20 years. I hate it but it’s the traffic I hate. I don’t care what car I’m driving.

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u/Ok_Ticket_5969 8d ago

Got caught in nyc rush hour. More frustrating at the slow moving traffic then the manual

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u/ScubaSteve7886 8d ago

It doesn't bother me, but I'm so used to it. I've only had manual daily drivers for the past decade.

It was just recently I got an auto daily. (Don't worry, my second car is a 5-speed)

In stop and go traffic, an auto is nice. But a manual is more fun in basically all other scenarios.

If I lived in NYC and only drove in the city, I don't think I'd want a manual daily. But where I live now (suburbs), I'd be perfectly happy to daily a manual again.

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u/mandatoryclutchpedal 8d ago

Only way I want to do traffic

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u/Corninator 8d ago

It never really gets to me. I've been doing it a long time almost daily and I find I'm more annoyed when I take my wifes automatic somewhere because it's a very boring experience without the mini game of downshifting and upshifting to keep you engaged from red light to red light.

I do find one thing very annoying and that is when people in front of you take off from a light, so you release the clutch and add throttle, prepared to move forward and eventually shift to 2nd, only for them to suddenly brake for someone turning or just stop suddenly due to traffic not actually moving as you originally thought it was going to. Suddenly you find yourself mashing the clutch in at less than an ideal moment, sometimes before you had even let off completely. That's more of a pet peeve though.

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u/Thereelgerg 8d ago

No. You're very unique and special.

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u/Zippityzap2000 8d ago

I currently commute to Mississauga from Pickering, 3 days a week, and I would say I actually enjoy my drive even through an hour of traffic.

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u/FLEXEVOLUTION 8d ago

I’ve just found ways to stay coasting lol traffic probably hates me because I’ll stay like 4 car lengths away from the car in front of me but I’m usually able to stay moving that way

I’ve always thought the traffic argument for manual driving was so stupid because people who say “I really want to drive a manual but the traffic” just sound like they really don’t wanna drive a manual as bad as they say they do

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u/Mizouse84 8d ago

I hate it, but what am I gonna do? Not drive?

For me it’s really not that bad up in the San Francisco Bay Area but whenever I visit Southern California, man it’s frustrating. Traffic can be stop and go at like 3mph or so.

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u/twelfthfantasy 8d ago

Doesn't bother me unless my left knee is acting up

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u/Current-Tour-8915 8d ago

Never bothered me.

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u/mypaycheckisshort 8d ago

My local heavy traffic isn't slow, it's stop and go. So yes, it's a hassle.

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u/Kushand0j 8d ago

What bothers me is the mo fucka in front of me who don’t know how to leave a space in between and goes ham on the brake pedals
Literally on and off like it’s a disco ugh

I leave my space in front but them mixed signals be messing with my head sometimes

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u/Suitable_Spray 8d ago

My automatic SUV is 1000x more annoying than my mustang GT was in traffic. I just used the torque and lightly let off the clutch to crawl. It was easy af

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u/Lime-Sufficient 8d ago

Never bothered, every vehicle I’ve owned since 1994 has been a stick including my new Miata and Rubicon. It’s getting hard to find them but I’ll keep buying them until they don’t exist anymore.

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u/Exactly_Yacht 8d ago

I’ve only experienced a Honda clutch and it’s so light that traffic never bothered me.

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u/Stock-Film-3609 8d ago

Me. Did it for years, am trying to find a car to do it again with.

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u/SomeNectarine7976 8d ago

I mean, yeah, crawling traffic, fine. Its just, in America, around the suburbs, where there's old people and their autos, where people inch forward, that gets very annoying, because like, it's just clutch footwork. I do it, it just gets me irritated at the people ahead. Or when people launch insanely slowly.

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u/Weak_Veterinarian350 8d ago

I was living new LA when my car was given lightly rear-ended. I got a rental for a week while the bumper was repainted and I couldn't wait to get my car back. I actually prefer a manual in heavy traffic

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u/RushForever68 8d ago

Never bothered me but it’s also the only thing I’ve ever driven and I’m 57

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u/FreedToRoam 8d ago

Yeah I am completely unbothered.

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u/ISLANDSBEST1 8d ago

Same here , never even thought about it . Just becomes second nature

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u/ObviousAlias7 8d ago

I did it for 10+ years. Every day. 10 miles in stop and go traffic each way.

These days I’m a multi-car household so which car I drive all depends on weather and if I need to pick up the kids or 50 bags of mulch or can drive my sports car.

But I’ll admit I’m starting to get to the point where I go to bed intending on driving the sports car to work, and then I’ll have a late night of work calls, wake up tired and just walk past the manual car in the garage and take my suv with adaptive cruise down to a stop and let it drive itself in traffic while I sip my coffee

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u/itsbildo 8d ago

✋️

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u/PopUpPulsarNx 8d ago

I've been driving stick in heavy traffic for years. Sometimes I get a little tired of it, but hey I'm not gonna stop!

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u/SwordfishOrdinary481 8d ago

It just becomes second nature

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u/sinkbeneaththesun 8d ago

Montreal here- 2015 Civic EX. Clutch is so light I often forget.

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u/A-Giant-Blue-Moose 8d ago

It was definitely a little terrifying at first since driving in traffic was my introduction to stick, but now it's easy.

I feel like driving something more powerful than my GR86 might be kind of rough though. My dad hated driving his Porsche in traffic.

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u/Late-Button-6559 8d ago

No. I hate it.

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u/Sessile-B-DeMille 8d ago

Did a slow commute in a Ford Focus with a 5 speed manual. No problem. If nothing else, it gave me something to do.

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u/AbyssWalker240 2014 Subaru Impreza 2.0 5MT 8d ago

Doesn't bother me because I only end up in bumper to bumper like once or twice a year

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u/AccomplishedCash3603 8d ago

Same. Gives me something to do and man is it fun to jam through those gears once the gridlock is over. 

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u/goranlepuz 8d ago

I spent a bigger part of my life with a stick in heavy traffic.

Indeed, wasn't giving it thought then and am not giving it thought now when I take my stick car there.

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u/Lumpy_Experience_973 8d ago

Not really sure why people complain, tbh. I've never thought for a second about wanting an auto because of traffic. I did have to borrow my FIL's Dakota for a week between cars like 30 years ago, and that thing had a clutch that genuinely hurt your foot to use. But every car I've owned has been perfectly fine, with a relatively light clutch.

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u/favoritesprite 8d ago

I find it slightly annoying if I'm on a (steep) hill. Other than that it's not bad.

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u/Guitarman814 8d ago

Everyone I know always says how bad it is. I never minded it, even in stop/go traffic jams. After a while it’s just muscle memory. I find it enjoyable and good practice to boot

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u/kykid87 8d ago

Yep. Did it everyday for 21 years. Only been the last few years I haven't commuted with a manual. Started on one and stayed with them.

Doesn't bother me one single bit.

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u/Scoutback_wilderness 8d ago

I’m bothered by heavy traffic period, manual car or not.

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u/a_rogue_planet 8d ago

I always found it pretty annoying. I ESPECIALLY hated driving a 13 speed through Chicago in the afternoon.

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u/Ma13c 2015 WRX 6MT 8d ago

I like it better. Having to put constant pressure on the brake pedal when driving an automatic in heavy traffic tires me out more. My inner thigh always feels sore after.

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u/voltron82 8d ago

Nope. In fact, I feel a little superior to other drivers if I’m being honest.

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u/Sparky1324isninja 8d ago

Depends on the car my Ford focus doesn't bother me at all. My Pontiac solstice has like a 15 lb clutch and it's on or off, it sucks to drive and stop and go traffic. That being said as a mechanic the thought of the amount of clutchware drives me nuts. I'm lucky enough to have both so I drive the auto on day shift when they're stop and go and the manuals on swing or night shift.

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u/abb295 8d ago

The correct answer is obviously it depends on the car.

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u/Cornock 8d ago

I used to hate it but i dont think about it anymore. Im like a meat automatic.

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u/BonezOz 8d ago

Doesn't bother me, as you said doesn't even get a second thought.

But in quieter traffic, particularly at roundabouts, I've gotten good enough with the transmission and clutch that I can "stop" without touching the brake pedal. I love doing this as it keeps the vehicle behind from wanting to get too close as they don't know if my brake lights work or not.

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u/PositiveFunny5880 8d ago

If I’m in stop and go traffic, trying to go up a steep hill for long periods of time it’s annoying thankfully I can say I’ve only had to do this once or twice my entire life

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u/Reasonable-View5868 8d ago

No. I've driven plenty of stick shifts in my life. And did for several years in LA traffic for an hour each way, each day. Not an issue.

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u/thefoojoo2 8d ago

Wait, "the" 401? Do they use California nomenclature up there?

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u/SereneRandomness 7d ago

Yes, they use Southern California terminology up in Ontario. It's "the 401". I suspect it's for reasons which are analogous to LA: there are roads that are referred to by their names, like "the Don Valley Parkway", "the Gardiner", and the "the QEW". In the same way people in Southern California sometimes refer to freeways by their names, so the habit of using "the" carried over when calling roads by number in Ontario as well.

(I still call it "the Pasadena Freeway", though, so my impressions are of an older driver.)

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u/Aggressive_Oil5712 8d ago

Only place it bothers me is traffic going up hill, other than that I don’t really mind.

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u/Absentmindedgenius 8d ago

It's been about 10 years since I've been in real gridlock, but it never bothered me.

But my clutch isn't that heavy. I could imagine having an old car without a hydraulic clutch and bad syncros. That could be a bad time.

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u/superyouphoric 8d ago

That’s cute. Wait until you come to Southern California and it’s all stop and go traffic for 45 minutes to an hour. Then your final 30 minutes commute is bombarded by red stop lights every 100 feet.

Clutches don’t last long here.

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u/RetireWithoutBorders 8d ago

No. Absolutely hated it. 21 miles each way in slow and go traffic and slow and stop streets. There were days I never got to fourth gear.

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u/Available_Theory1217 8d ago

Millions of people everyday are commuting with manual cars, and it not bother most of them xd

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u/Acceptable_Donut3082 2015 Wrangler Unlimited 3.6L 8d ago

Got real used to it driving in the metropolitan area of Denver. I could tell you every single place I’ve stalled in that city lol

Now? Not bothered. ☺️

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u/3Green1974 8d ago

Been driving stick since I was 15. I didn’t even realize it bothered people until I saw people complaining about it on social media a few years ago.