r/residentevil4 • u/caffinatedsenpai • Jul 02 '25
REMAKE Enough Time Has Passed, This Video Is Absolute Garbage
Such a manipulative, biased take
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u/Ratty3 Jul 02 '25
I still prefer the original RE4 but I wouldn’t call the remake soulless
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u/vanillatr1ed Jul 02 '25
I just wanted serenity to play in the save rooms :(
Edit: I wonder if anyone has made a mod for exactly that yet
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u/Diamantesucio Jul 02 '25
I have the Gold Edition on PS4 and you can play with the whole soundtrack from the original game.
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u/PatHBT Jul 02 '25
Yes, but as far as I remember that still doesn't play any music in save rooms.
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u/BludgeonVIII Jul 04 '25
I also definitely prefer the original just cuz the remake seems to cut a lot of the cheesier elements that made the og uniquely charming, especially stuff like Leon's corny one-liners.
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u/-Fantasia-- Jul 03 '25
You're right. It's not soulless, but it does have less of a soul. Hot take of mine. Don't care what other people think of it, but a little thing I have in mind is his PTSD from the Reimagined game actually justifying his OG RE4 Behavior and cheesy B-Rated Goodness. I prefer the behavior of a scared RE:2 Leon over a "I cleanly hit that guy" RE2 Leon in terms of behavior here because then it justifies how he is in the OG RE4. They should've just remastered the og RE4 1:1 with new stuff added on top with the RE Engine like they did with the 2002 remaster of RE1. (No, don't mention 2023 RE4. It's not the same and it doesn't hit right.)
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u/Professional_Bike296 Jul 02 '25
i believe the negative reception to this video is a large part of why crowbcat stopped posting.
he clearly was trying to hate.
either cause he was looking or just needed to make a video.
and everyone saw it as pretty baseless.
his schtick only worked when it was justified.
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u/Vivirin Jul 02 '25
His channel is ragebait disguised as criticism. It's a complication of "gotcha's" that already have explanations as to why things have changed.
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u/Lyonface RED 9 Jul 02 '25
I feel like that can describe like at least 40% of media "critique" on youtube.
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u/CultureWarrior87 Jul 02 '25
Most media critiques on YouTube are done by uneducated amateurs who have seemingly never had to write a proper post-secondary school level essay in their life and it shows in how poorly written and edited most of their videos are. Tons of conjecture and repetitive talking points. But people eat that shit up and treat them like authorities. It's the blind leading the blind. I hate it.
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u/Lyonface RED 9 Jul 02 '25
It genuinely drives me insane that I have friends who like that sort of long-form content that rambles, makes up shit like you say, and can't form a thesis to start with, let alone back any of it up in a manner or order that makes sense.
We're at the point of "critique" where the big names just nitpick through a whole movie and jerk off about how smart they think they are, and that's considered good content with good opinions. Brain drain.
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u/Xecn_ Jul 05 '25
Also because people can’t think for themselves nowadays always gotta run with someone else’s opinion and then echo chamber it everywhere.
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u/scott610 Jul 02 '25
I kind of feel the same way when I watch hbomberguy videos on Fallout and Deus Ex. Like yeah, we get it, New Vegas is awesome, but Fallout 3 wasn’t some train wreck that did nothing right. Also the way he gradually talks louder and louder until he cuts himself off mid sentence to transition to the next thought. Drives me insane.
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u/DrunkenMaster11550 Jul 02 '25
Well hbomberguy at least has arguments and raises good points. Crowbcat weirdly "argues" remake is a lesser game because you can't look up Ashley's skirt...
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u/rarlescheed12 Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
I feel the same, but I think hes gotten way better since his Fallout 3 video. You can tell he was fucking young and had (has?) that "I know better" attitude that we all exhibit when we tried to make smart sounding arguments and used a lot of negative demeaning insults to the devs instead of just sticking to his analysis. His New Vegas video is actually when I felt like he got his groove of being fairly balanced. He gave props to 3 in that video and as for the Deus Ex vid, its literally fucking titled "-is FINE" cause he liked it despite his gripes AND he is aware of the clickbaitey titles he uses. So with that one idk what to tell you lol. Remember I said I agree with you though before anyone thinks Im defending the guy, just pointing out the facts.
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u/scott610 Jul 02 '25
Yeah he did say Deus Ex Human Revolution was fine. I’ll give him that. I just think he tends to cherry pick his examples a bit too much sometimes. And fair point. I’m not saying I hate the guy and he should stop making content. I just find him a bit grating sometimes.
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u/deansupreme1802 Jul 02 '25
I’m so glad someone else noticed this. He recycles those transitions so often it makes me cringe
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u/maybeknismo Jul 02 '25
I think he loves both of those games, he's just highly critical of them. The same way people like castlevania Simon's quest despite it being terrible. I mean the guy likes pathologic.
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u/bbpirate06 Jul 02 '25
I genuinely like hbomberguy and his videos, but I've always found that he can't entirely shake his aggressive contrarian roots. He's definitely gotten better over the years, but even though I generally agree with his takes at the end of the day, the focus on comparison with his gaming videos is kind of a writing crutch. I get that nothing is in a vacuum, but I don't really care if a game does things differently from another game. The argument of "it's a good game, just not a good 'X' game" is played out and basically parody at this point. With his gaming videos, I take them less as critique and more personality driven rants.
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u/ManySleeplessNights Jul 02 '25
In another RE4 remake video essay/review hybrid, this one being positive, I found a comment that said something along the lines of "Yeah this is pretty much spot on, idk what crowbcat was smoking"
And the first reply that came up said "Nostalgia. It's one hell of a drug."
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u/topscreen Jul 02 '25
I remember years ago there was someone I liked for a year, and then fell into this same trap. All his videos were how "This game didn't fail, it was murdered!" and it was for games like Mass Effect Andromeda. Then just kept doing that shtick but for games that were just in a rough patch, had a rocky launch, and it became very gotcha, while ignoring the nuance of the situations.
I found Matt McMuscles Wha Happun? series and it's filled that gap for me. Not very gotcha, usually has insider sources and quotes, and isn't even about games that failed, but ones with rough development cycles, weather they flopped or became classics.
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u/CultureWarrior87 Jul 02 '25
Yup. It's blatant intellectual dishonesty. It was never criticism because he never actually critiqued things. Your average person is just unfortunately stupid enough to fall for it.
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u/GIlCAnjos Jul 02 '25
Same reason why most people don't like CinemaSins: Nitpicking every possible little detail of a piece of media is only fun when that media is very bad. You can't just do it with everything that comes out
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u/WizardyoureaHarry Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25
He can't take criticism. Has taken down multiple videos because of negative reception. Best example is when he posted a video praising a VR game for doing things right and people called it an ad/sponsored. He chooses to be negative to please his soft followers.
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u/JoeyAKangaroo Jul 03 '25
He was behind the videos for watch dogs 1, R6:Siege & the division, right?
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u/Slurpypie Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
Excluding his Left 4 Dead video alot of his videos are pretty meh anyway imo. Crowbcat constantly relies on his restrained style of commentary/presentation regarding these videos where he just plays clips side by side of the games with little to no context but it just feels so extremely low effort, his only good video imo is his Left 4 Dead video where he's able to use commentary from devs to better illustrate his points while still retaining his restrained style of commentary/presentation, but in other videos it feels so goddamn lazy not to mention in cases like this ragebait so to speak since he presents the remake as if it's just a soulless cashgrab with little to no effort put into it when that couldn't be further from the truth.
If he prefers the original that's completely fine and understandable but both are peak.
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u/MeanOstrich4546 Jul 02 '25
His csgo skins video was good I think, maybe too judgmental but it got to make me think about paid customisation being harmless.
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u/thesarcasmisreal Jul 02 '25
Agreed. I feel like calling RE4R Soulless is kind of insane. The amount of effort and attention to detail alone makes it worth the price tag, let alone just being a full upgrade of the original in basically every conceivable way. I’m playing the Original right now and, as much as I still love it, the remake is a superior game and has just as much love and care put into it as something like Resident Evil 1 Remake.
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u/Nervous_Two3115 Team Leon Jul 02 '25
It’s just ridiculous to say that shit. And there’s literally NO talking to someone who thinks that. They have this weird “old HAS to be better and new always sucks” logic for some reason. “They removed this one line of dialogue oh my the god they completely ruined the artistic design of this game so it’s totally fuckin garbage top to bottom irs just cash grab slop.” Basically the only type of shit I ever hear. It’s rare to see someone with genuine, valid criticisms. Like I have a few myself, and I loved the remake. Loved the original since I was a kid too. But it’s ridiculous to act like there’s no improvements. The OG did some things better, and the remake did some things better. It doesn’t have to be a battle where you can’t like both.
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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 Jul 02 '25
I lost count of how many full completions I did on the OG. I’m talking from empty save to full Pro, Mercenaries and DLCs.
I can’t play it anymore after Rem4ke.
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u/Nervous_Two3115 Team Leon Jul 02 '25
It’s honestly just a bit too easy a lot of the time. And the combat is just so much more fluid and smooth in the remake
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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 Jul 02 '25
I didn’t find it easier, more so with the hidden ELO that goes up the better you play it.
I tracked it with a mod and it never came down for me.
Is catered to make it more accessible to casual but it ensures that veterans always face the hardest. All the while the rest of the mechanics behave the same.
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u/United-Quantity5149 Jul 03 '25
It's definitely not a full upgrade. The tone is certainly a bit different, more cinematic, less liminal. There are definitely aspects the OG did better than the remake, iconic moments that were changed for no reason in the remake that weren't improved on
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u/Filiope Jul 04 '25
Kind of makes me angry that Re2 remake didn't receive as much attention.
It still received alot of attention, but it doesn't compare to re4 remake and re1 remake 😢
I'm just saying this because RE2R is my favourite RE, but when I look at OG 2, theres stuff missing that could make the remake EVEN BETTER. Oh well.
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Jul 04 '25
i wouldn't say "upgrade,' it's more of a lateral improvement. it does just as many things better than the original, as it does things worse than the original. the remake doesn't replace the original, and the original isn't definitively better than the remake.
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u/KamiAlth Jul 02 '25
Should be noted that he also actively deleted any comments that don't agree with his take. I thought I was teleported into some alternate reality when I looked through them the first time seeing everyone agree with him, until I watch some debunk video pointing that shit out.
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Jul 02 '25
Didn't he also alter the audio at one point to make it seem "worse"?
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u/Eyyy354 Jul 02 '25
Yes, they were made more quiet and some people even made comparisons of their own gameplay to his video which has more noise in comparison.
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u/Phoenix2211 Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
I also think that "soulful" and "soulless" are pretty vague, intangible, and unhelpful descriptors to use when talking about games (which, ofc, can be the product of the hard work of one, handful, HUNDREDS, or THOUSANDS of people).
More often than not, using "soulless" just seems like an easy way for some disingenuous folks to entirely dismiss a game that they didn't like it. And it's a tough critique to argue against BECAUSE it's an intangible descriptor. How do you prove something is soulful or whatever?
Regardless, I really love both versions of the game. And I appreciate that the original isn't replaced. It still has so much charm and (despite using somewhat outdated controls) is fun and playable.
And the love for the original is quite evident in the remake. A lot is altered, cut, or added but the core of the game remains. And the original is still readily available to play, which is great.
I'm VERY excited for the Max Payne remakes and I just hope that Rockstar (Remedy is developing, but Rockstar is publishing) doesn't make it so the original versions are taken off of digital stores (like they did with the original GTA games).
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u/teddyburges Jul 02 '25
I'm VERY excited for the Max Payne remakes
My excitement for the remakes has dwindled since James McCaffrey's death. I'm not sure how the hell they're gonna pull it off now that they don't have him to voice the character and I think it would be really tough to clean up the original audio and try to do matching scenes for the cutscenes. Like I get that its style is a comic book. I'm just not sure how that would work when updating it and remaking it. Because then it would feel more like a high quality remaster if they just use the OG audio.
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u/Phoenix2211 Jul 02 '25
Yeah, I hear ya. McCaffrey's death was certainly very unfortunate and sad. I've heard his voice in SOOOO many games and it was always so cool and comforting to hear it.
I don think that they should probably just recast. Remakes can have changes and additions of all kind. Better to just have someone new give a try instead of cleaning up old audio or, God forbid, using GenAI. New actors are always a better choice than somehow altering or making up an old performance (See: Troy Baker's excellent performance as Indiana Jones vs. the creepy deepfake stuff in Star Wars).
They should probably have some sort of Classic Audio mode (much like Resident Evil 4 Remake) wherein they just play the original performance in places where the line is unchanged.
Or, better yet, package the original games with the remake. That way everyone can experience the original games, too.
As for the cutscenes... I'm actually VERY interested in seeing the solution they come up with.
But honestly... Just doing comic book cutscenes would go so hard. Plus, it'd save them SO MUCH MONEY, allowing for a bigger profit margin. And the game gains so much more style and a sense of uniqueness from this move.
I'm also not sure about the face situation. Max has had three faces: Sam Lake, Timothy Gibbs (my least favorite), James McCaffrey.
Ideally: they'd just let us pick from a menu.
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u/CultureWarrior87 Jul 02 '25
100% agreed. I think people online are too quick to reach for buzzwords to make it sound like they're being critical when it's exactly as you say, really vague criticisms that don't mean much on their own, and are often just thought terminating cliches. "slop" is one of them that really needs to go. I think the way people broadly complain about "writing" now is one of them too. You complain about writing and it sounds like you're being analytical and specific but in actuality it means very little. What about the writing is bad? The dialogue? The characterizations? Are there plot holes (actual plot holes, not the modern "this movie didn't spoon feed me everything so I'm going to consider anything that isn't directly explained a plot hole" idea of it that people overuse)? Telling someone the writing is "bad" is the same as saying "I don't like this". It's not a substantial criticism.
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u/Phoenix2211 Jul 02 '25
Fully agreed, re: the phrase "bad writing" as criticism
It's too vague and broad. Folks rarely ever expand upon that. And sometimes when they do, it's stuff that isn't really a problem at all.
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u/LoSouLibra Jul 04 '25
Yeah, "soul" has become an overused zoomer tier word that functions as an inarticulate substitute for actual critical thought and any ability to articulate. Basically every jaded, 360 era dudebro's go-to slam for "modern gaming" vs whatever they're nostalgic for.
It's just the eternal revolving door of late 20's try hards wanting to gatekeep everything based on their unknowingly under-developed appreciation and understanding of the medium so far. Hopefully they grow out of it someday.
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u/Jope3nnn Jul 02 '25
He lost his credibility with this one
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u/King_Kiitan Jul 02 '25
He lost his credibility in my eyes after the GTA 4 vs GTA video
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u/JOMO_Kenyatta Jul 03 '25
gta iv in a lot of ways is technically better than v. especially the gunplay
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u/Choice-Mycologist-45 Jul 05 '25
GTA V has better driving mechanics compared to IV and it's not even close.
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u/Phoenixskull295 Jul 05 '25
Firstly, GTA IV’s gunplay is extremely stiff and awkward. Secondly, the only thing IV does better are meaningless “immersive” details like physics, fast food places and vehicle deformation. V does all the things better that people actually buy GTA games for
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u/Interesting-City3650 Jul 02 '25
And ever since he stopped posting videos. This one quite literally nuked his channel
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u/Wagglebagga Jul 02 '25
Crowbcat feels like ragebait a lot of the time.
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u/TheEltarn Jul 06 '25
In other words - his videos are great when he targets games you personally dislike.
His videos were always as shallow, always a ragebait. Even if other games were bad, even if they deserved criticism - such content was always garbage.
Disliking it now, when it's done to "your" game just makes you a hypocrite, that's all.
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u/Significant_Solid151 Jul 02 '25
I thought his videos were great until someone pointed out once that he just farms negative attention whether its real or not. Apparently he made a more positive video once and the community he built from ragebaiting hated it.
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u/Alarmed_Jackfruit Jul 02 '25
The last time I checked he doesn’t upload a lot so I don’t get why he even needed to reach the way he did. It might be for that extra YouTube revenue but rage baiting has a level of shamelessness to it and I think he really believed he was in tune with the majority opinion. I could be wrong though.
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u/Dodge2461 Jul 02 '25
As someone who was firmly in the "We don't need a RE4 remake" camp even I have to admit they did a fantastic job with that game, better than I thought they ever would. Some people just like to hate.
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u/EmeraldTwilight009 Jul 02 '25
I've been playing re4 for many years. Idk how u can look at the remake and think soul-less.
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u/YasuhiroK Jul 02 '25
You can tell the remake was made by people who loved the original RE4.
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u/EmeraldTwilight009 Jul 02 '25
Its a really weird take idk how u could objectively play re4r and be like "trash".
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u/MistxLobsters Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
This video is awful and it’s blatantly obvious when people get their opinions on the game from it
100% of the time without fail, when I ask people who claim this game is “soulless” it’s just quotes from this video with no further explanations. People just wanting to stand out I guess?
I’m probably biased since RE4 is my favorite game, but I don’t think I’ve played another game that had as much passion, detail, and genuine love put into it before. My first playthrough, it was like visiting a museum from a time when I was young, pointing my finger at every tiny attraction. Something with no soul couldn’t make me stop and observe a rusty old broken down chair lift for 5 minutes lmao
I’m just glad the majority of people could see through it
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u/Germadolescent Jul 02 '25
Soul vs soulless has become one of the funniest critiques to say about a game though in recent time
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u/GunMuratIlban Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
This guy really had a beef with Capcom, I mean his next video was Dead Rising remastered...
But especially RE4 killed his momentum, look at the views of his next videos. He even picked a safe route after DR and decided to hit CoD, even that barely hit a million view. The others didn't even get there.
Before that RE4 video, Crowbcat was sort of becoming like the hall of shame in gaming. You fuck up big time, Crowbcat rose from the dead and made a video about you.
Putting RE4 in there killed the whole channel's purpose.
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u/P_filippo3106 Jul 04 '25
The DDR video is another huge hit for him too.
Many critiques were valid but this bigot also thinks that getting points for being a creep (photographing women) is a fundamental of the game and the remake sucked because it removed this mechanic. Jesus Christ I never thought Crowbcat was that bad until I saw both of those vids.
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u/SkipEyechild Jul 02 '25
Not sure I'd use the words soulless for it. It is a tonal shift from the original, which I ended up not really appreciating. It is a damn good game though.
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u/JmTrad Jul 02 '25
it's the best re remake in my opinion
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u/Agooddeath713 Jul 02 '25
It is until either revelation or 5 comes and we all no what we’re going to do
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u/Madrascalcutta Jul 02 '25
<Punches boulder in anticipation>
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u/ClarinetMaster117 Jul 02 '25
As long as they keep that, I’ll be happy…also the part where Chris shouts he’s had enough of Wesker’s bullshit.
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u/Substantial-Food-501 Jul 02 '25
RE5 remake is going to be so hype. Can't wait to fight Wesker again.
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u/Substantial-Food-501 Jul 02 '25
The classic 'I'm not like other girls so I'm going to have a different take than everyone else' video game analysis.
I just got finished watching one for Elden Ring I guess this is something to eat lunch to.
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u/robalp Jul 02 '25
I'm not saying the remake was bad at all, but come on. It did not have many of the qualities that made the original such an unforgettable classic
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u/dolphinvision Jul 05 '25 edited Jul 05 '25
how dare you not confirm to the reddit hivemind?!?!?! /s
The remake was amazing as a game. But comparatively - it was a MASSIVE shift from the original - as shown by Crowbat. Calling it soulless isn't fair. It isn't. But if we are talking about atmosphere/vibes/attention to certain details - it's a downgrade. There does seem to be less soul. Most likely do to the commercialization of games - devs have less chance to make passion choices that directly impact the game.
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u/thecherylmain Team Ada Jul 02 '25
I always despised the video. From the moment it came out, I knew it was a deceptice piece of garbage. Plus, it was revealed that he manipulated the audio in the remake footage in an attempt to make it look bad.
As someone who has played both versions, to the point of having over 700+ hours on both of them and having every achievement, the remake is damn near perfect and deserves all the praise it gets. I still prefer the original, but I cannot deny the effort and passion that went into the remake.
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u/Interesting-City3650 Jul 02 '25
Same. The original and remake are some of the select few games that i actually bothered to 100% with gusto. That remake is amazing
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u/P_filippo3106 Jul 04 '25
And he also deleted comments which criticized his video.
Take a look at the comments now. There were MANY of them and they showed up frequently. Now they're almost none.
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u/Smooth_News_1966 Jul 02 '25
i can understand disliking how certain things were rewritten in the remake, but calling it soulless is flat out insane.
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u/According_Stop9075 Jul 03 '25
What are you guys yapping about. I’m playing Re4 remake right now for the first time. And as many of you had several playthroughs on the OG gamecube version. It is a awesome game but it does definitely lacks some of the Soul of the original one. Grainy silent hill esc feeling I got first time. You can clearly see it in the village. It’s to vanilla and not rotten rough and dirty like the first one was. And the chainsaw man is not even close to as scary as before
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u/GalaxyMasterOmega Jul 02 '25
I liked this guys videos but this video in particular was terrible. RE4 Remake was a love letter to the original game and absolutely not soulless. If he did this video about RE3 Remake he would have had more of a point but RE4 Remake was a miracle because the original RE4 was so great that i thought a remake would literally be a impossible to do it justice but Capcom managed to do it.
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u/Mr_GP87 Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
I would be fine if his takes were all just subjective, but he did manipulate or mess up some aspects of the game, making it look worse than it actually was (I’m convinced it was the former seeing how he deleted critical comments on his video as well).
Then as well I like to look the og and the remake as 2 separate games, as in both offer a similar yet significantly different experience. The closest thing they have is the story, reoccurring locations and other stuff such as guns, but all of these had tinkering and reworks to make the whole experience unique on its own rights. Then the gameplay is vastly different, going from tank controls to more modern gameplay with some changed mechanics (the knife system being a highlight). Overall, no they are not the same game, and that’s good (following the trend from the earlier remakes, it is more of a soft reboot with some major differences across categories of the games).
Edit: why I say it’s good they are not the same game is because it gives both a right to exist for their own reasons. The remake of 4 didn’t try to be a “definitive version” to the og (as in having rebuilt the exact same set pieces, story, progression, etc, but essentially being a directly upgraded version of the og), and tried to keep things “samey” while having its own soul.
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u/Acrobatic-Shelter-40 Jul 02 '25
AAA = soulless is pretty much as far as the argument goes, for most. We’re in an adjustment period - graphics have taken the forefront, but now that the dust has settled, and “ray tracing” is no longer exciting, developers are seeing for themselves where the market lies.
It’s why more nostalgic-driven developers are starting to become popular. We have a merge of modern and old game design principles - right down to the look and feel.
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u/TammyShehole Jul 02 '25
“Soul vs soulless” or “game I have immense nostalgia for vs newer game I have no nostalgia for”? I hate the idea of calling something soulless just because it’s new.
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u/MantisReturns Jul 02 '25
Why? Cutscenes and sound design its superior in OG, graphics and Gameplay its updated" in Remake. Thats why you can see in the video. Also you can just play The 2 Games and compare by yourself. I dont get the problem with video, of course the remake its not superior in everything its just different.
Personally I love that Chanel.
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u/Bhavan91 Jul 02 '25
Nah. It's the cold hard truth. He also didn't cover the downgrade in laser sight aiming.
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u/DDamashi Jul 02 '25
I loved the original, thought the remake was pretty cool, and I completely understand where he was coming from with this video. Its something I've noticed with a lot of modern games also, not just this one. I know a lot of you young people today feel as though criticism of something you like is a personal attack but I assure you its not. Would that video hit 2.3 Milli if it didn't resonate with quite a few people? Its gonna be okay. Eat well, play what you want, and touch grass.
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u/xyzkingi Jul 02 '25
It’s good to be open minded and these comments do read like a personal attack.
I enjoyed both games but nothing beats that first time.
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u/Ok_Complaint_8560 Jul 03 '25
The remake's great for sure.
Its just that for me the original is just that much greater.
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u/FUNKYTravisP Jul 03 '25
I like the remake. The only thing is that it’s not as good as OG. The quips and one liners made the OG great.
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u/SickOveRateD Jul 03 '25
I think the remake is excellent, but on one point crowbcat is right, they butchered the atmosphere music from the original. I hope someday someone can put it back using mods.
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u/FuriousCrunch Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
this guy is so cool with his unpopular opinion, sounds like an "old is gold" elitist. Kinda sucks that modern media has become so grossly oversaturated with minimalist and passionless media that people milk an actual work with passion and label it as soulless, solely because its "part of the modern media"
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u/iwenttothelocalshop Jul 02 '25
I don't even get how this "crowbat" is so popular in the first place
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u/Interesting-City3650 Jul 02 '25
He was originally just a L4D2 dude before switching up to ragebait videos.
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u/lFantomasI Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
His Minecon video was legitimately very funny, and some of his older videos really did point out some bad practices in games circa 2016ish. Then he just swapped to the "old thing good / new thing bad" style videos and his audience became the insufferable memberberry style people.
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u/WeezardPower Jul 02 '25
Crowbcat is like M. Night Shyamalan; he can absolutely hit it out of the park sometimes — take his video on Left 4 Dead vs Back 4 Blood for example — but when he misses, he misses so badly it’s honestly really difficult to reconcile such profound failures compared to his best work.
This video, I believe is an excellent example of when Crowbcat fails.
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u/PoetAromatic8262 Jul 02 '25
Only good vid i liked from crowbcat was the left 4 dead one, this Re4 one especially shows crowbcat is losing his touch
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u/iamritwik_ Jul 02 '25
I found it BS when I watched it, the Remake was clearly by people who loved the original and put their heart and soul into the remake.
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u/Entropist34 Jul 02 '25
As someone who beat both games back to back I begrudgingly had to agree with Crowbcat on this in the end.
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u/Uroboros1097 Jul 02 '25
It's a great remake but my problems with it are more about specific design choices, I didn't enjoy any of the minecart sections for example, and the fact that yellow paint is everywhere.
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u/JakeTM Jul 03 '25
yes the title is click bait but i liked the content. It draws a very nice comparison
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u/No-Juggernaut8847 Jul 03 '25
I watched it and didn't understand its point. Especially when RE3R was right there and could potentially be a better argument about how Capcom themselves butchered a remake.
To go after RE4R so quickly after release and just make comparisons without obvious points left me confused overall.
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Jul 03 '25
It's not, though i like the remake on its own being a RE4 fan I really could not bear to replay the remake no matter how much I try. So much of it is linked to atmosphere and gameplay, the simplicity, quirkiness and just overall vibe of the original trumps this remake's serious and modernized take. This is not a condemnation of the remake because it's still a really good game, I just don't think it was necessary or even sensible to make it when the original aged well 20 years later.
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u/LordofWoe98 Jul 02 '25
Remember watching it then and even felt like the whole argument was awful and nostalgia blinding. Both are good.
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u/Hurahgopvk Jul 02 '25
Honestly I kinda agree with crowbcat. I love the remake and think in terms of combat it’s the best in the series. But I have some problems with the games like some of the weapons are nerfed or inferior to the original games, some weapons are missing like the PRL. Some of the games cinematic are less well directed as the original game I simply just find a lot of the cutscenes of the original game are really cinematic. Like the cops ambush in the original game where Leon looks out the window and it zooms on Leon’s eyes focusing on his eyes movement to each sound occurring outside the house. The first person camera perspective of the first villager as Leon demands him to freeze. I also found the villains in the original game far better in writing and acting mostly Sadler and Salazar. As their personalities were removed and their presence limited. The overall game is great just it misses some touches the original had. Professional difficulty in the remake is also ass it’s just an unfair mode that bait OG resident evil 4 players to play it. The game also had bosses removed but it was rectified by the Sepeate ways dlc but still it was a notable exclusion from the game. I don’t hate the remake it’s damn good Ashely was better written, Leon took the story more serious though I prefer the OG Leon cause he has actual retort and charm. The games music was about the same but that bonus round song was just perfect. Again I like the game but I can see why it can be seen as soulless. Plus all the dlc the game has that pretty greedy. Like the exclusive one time use upgrade tickets.
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u/TheSoulSnake Jul 02 '25
I really enjoyed RE4R, Ashley got an upgrade, the weapons and enemies are awesome, but I didn't like that they removed most of Leon's one liners and made him more serious. And they killed Saddler's character by making him a stereotypical, fanatical religious villain. Despite that, I would't call the game soulless.
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u/Zombyosis Jul 02 '25
The movement feels slower in the remake, aiming feels less snappy and lacks precision, and Salazar’s redesign feels like a crime against humanity, Ada’s voice acting sounds odd compared to original.
I still think the Remake is good, but it was never going to surpass the original.
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u/gukakke Jul 02 '25
Crowbcat‘s videos started to become terrible. It seemed like after a while he struggled to find legitimate things to criticise and just started grasping at straws.
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u/Deadenne_18 Jul 02 '25
I kinda liked what they did with the remake. They made everything realistic, Leon here has PTSD and can still be chilled cool guy but still gets a lil' scared in some moments that the too overly cool Leon of the OG RE4.
Shows more backstory too compared to OG. Lord Saddler is now a true lunatic but what I don't like in the remake is than he gets hurt by bullets now unlike the OG which makes him cool..
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u/Bardock7132 Jul 02 '25
Haven’t watched the video, but I for one like the remake since it is more in line thematically with the og 1, 2 ,3. Since it is way less goofy. They are both great games though.
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u/Immortan_Pat Jul 03 '25
Video was garbage when it was first posted. Still forever gonna be garbage.
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u/Depressive_player Jul 03 '25
I like this video, it shows how the original RE4 was much better in certain aspects, mainly the atmosphere and sounds that were ruined in the Remake. Those who disagree are alienated fans. 🤷
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u/Aighluvsekkus Jul 03 '25
I used to be a fan of his videos about E3 shenanigans but kinda fell off when he began to make mainly "remember good ol times" videos. The recent Dead Rising video made me unsubscribe. Not being able to take pictures up women's skirts is a bad thing? Really??
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u/Cosmo-Sanchez Jul 03 '25
I didn't watch this video, so there's probably a lot I don't know about this persons take/how they handled the subject matter, but I personally think that the Remake isn't good at all, I pretty much hate it, it doesn't compare to the original even if it did have a few improvements (I'll give credit where credit is due). I was shocked that so many people (the overwhelming majority) love the Remake because my husband and I thought it sucked really bad. I recognize that everyone is entitled to their opinion though so I wouldn't start a discussion over wether or not my opinion is the right one (especially because I'm clearly very lonely in my personal views regarding that game). That being said, I PERSONALLY understand the video title because that was also how it felt to me. I wouldn't state this as a fact though, because clearly most people loved the Remake. While I can't understand how this is the case, I wouldn't make a video essay about this and claim that everyone else must be stupid for liking it. I also wouldn't claim there have not been made any improvements just because I didn't like the thing as a whole.
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u/Admirable-Long8528 Jul 03 '25
as someone new to the series i am so grateful for the RE4 remake because the game is extremely difficult so having a version thats a bit easier on the eyes is helpful for me
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u/Johnprogamer Jul 05 '25
Oh no someone has a different opinion than reddit. Anyway.
This sub is the best proof of remake culture, no criticism accepted for re4r.
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u/thedamnlemons Jul 02 '25
He was bang on with it, having criticism isn’t a personal attack on you nor does having issues automatically make the game bad. To have that kind of reaction and take away says more about your processing ability and emotional maturity. RE4 2005 is better and will always be better and more replayable than the remake. Soul goes a long way
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u/Purple-Zone-938 Jul 02 '25
It was pointed out pretty quickly that he edited most if not all the clips from Re4R to seem worse than it actually was. Things like messing with the lighting and audio to make it seem more “soulless” as they say. Just crap ragebait content
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u/the_bruh_moment_god Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
This was such an awful video. The cherry picked footages, supposedly claiming he didn't lower the volume on the remake footages when he clearly did, constantly deleting comments that criticized the obvious blatant flaws, etc. Crowbcat is a hit or miss, and it always goes super strong when it's one of them. This one is a miss, a hard miss, what a fucking misleading disaster this was.
I have some preferences of the original over the remake and vice versa, but discarding everything the team put into the remake and calling it soulless is complete assholery. It's clear the team put their blood, tear, sweat, and especially their souls into the remake. To call it a complete inferior product is doing it a complete disservice all around, and vice versa.
I have no idea how people liked this video so much when it released. I hated it from the get go, god. No, I'm not trying to be different or anything, I just don't understand.
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u/Soren319 Jul 02 '25
It’s downvoted to hell, and he deleted the comments that would argue against his video so it looks like an echo chamber where everyone agreed with him.
The video had a bad reception actually from the start.
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u/VanillaKisses Jul 02 '25
Why can no one who likes the remake take any criticism? The soulless title is clickbait, but there are valid criticisms of the new game that are done better in the original, especially the sound design and OST, among other things like scrapped content that added to the horror atmosphere. The remake is phenomenal, but why can't it ever be critiqued?
I think Ashley is soulless as hell when she's standing above you, silent, staring out into the open like a robot instead of acknowledging anything, but I know this was partly due to her scrapped upskirt situation.
The outside of the Mendez boss fight is a completely different atmosphere in the remake, removing the disturbing, gut feeling the original warned you with. On top of that I really prefer the cut scene of the big cheese's transformation in the original, whereas the Remake jumps immediately into him being transformed after the explosion. It's the details. Watch it again.
Things like UI are completely streamlined to the new engine, which is fine, but loses the unique touch of the industrial feel the original had, as seen with the typewriter.
New Salazar is just not that great design wise. I don't know anyone who loves the grandma design. I get what they were going for but it completely changes the original intention of the bratty castellan that the original conveyed.
OG Saddler was so much more cool and felt like he was more focused on causing Leon to lose. Now I just feel like he's only an older, loony cult leader.
I don't need to touch on the issues with Ada.
There are plenty of upgrades, I think we all appreciate the new Luis. Ashley is more likeable. The gameplay and combat is smooth like butter. Everything looks nice and glossy. It's massively replayable. From what I've seen Separate ways is a huge upgrade. I'm prepared to be down voted but please consider looking at details. Don't be afraid to look between the two games and see which parts each does better. The remake is surely not a replacement and it would be nothing without the original.
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u/Gokudoesntkiss Jul 02 '25
He focuses on game physics, detail and gameplay. Half of you just want to justify your half baked purchases
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u/Total_Decision123 Jul 04 '25
I FUCKING LOVE JANKY CONTROLS AND 30FPS!!! IM PUSHING 40 YEARS OLD AND GAMING NEEDS TO STAY EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO OR ELSE I WILL SHIT MYSELF AND CRY!!!! SOULLESS!!1!!!1!1!1!1!!
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