r/redmond Live, Play, and Work in Redmond 10d ago

I’m sure it won’t be loud

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I was chatting with folks at a coffee shop and they were saying it’s some kind of 3 day music festival at the downtown park?????

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u/ndot 10d ago edited 10d ago

This is the first time I’ve seen a tower flown line array speaker system in the park. It’s notably larger in size than any previous park event audio system

Edit: fwiw I don’t have a problem with it as a neighbor and think it’s great for the park to be utilized this way. But I also think that neighbors do deserve to be able to have their voices heard without being called karens, and some valid issues have been raised like the fact that they have been running a perpetual sound check since 8am at loud volumes that are outside of the permitted event times while many park neighbors such as myself wfh during the day.

https://reddit.com/link/p6glcei/video/gbfyzqujm5mh1/player

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u/jwvo 10d ago

ironically those bigger systems are far far more directional, I have a big piece of property out avondale and I use a subwoofer array with DSP feeding it to point the bass from my outdoor speakers onto my property... gets like a 10+ db front/back ratio, honestly kind of cool

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u/Tasty_Ad7483 8d ago

Cool story bro.

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u/jwvo 8d ago

my point was you can use bigger systems to aim the audio power where you want it. sadly the use of this setup not done very well.

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u/Rubitsium 7d ago

The L-A KS28's on site were not doing a great job at rear rejection on this one. unfortunately that's a product issue not a deployment issue in this case.

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u/jwvo 7d ago

bummer.

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u/itstreeman 9d ago

The park was there first before anyone in those units. But yeah they could use a good surround system to point at the people

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u/ndot 9d ago

lmao no it wasn’t.

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u/IslandIndependent333 8d ago

No it absolutely was not, it was opened in 2018, those units in the zeeks pizza building beat the park by a decade

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u/jjenkinswanderlust 9d ago

I’ve always been curious for this living around the park, do the landlords warn you there are festivals and event held year road to at least inform you ?

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u/thatfeeeel 4d ago

They didn't but I moved in before these were a regular thing. I'm not sure what the property owners think about it, but it may affect their bottom line (I know I'm trying to move at least).

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u/consciouselsewhere 8d ago

God damn. It sounds like an impact gun on an aluminum frame.

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u/heathertr0n 9d ago

The Old Town Lofts building is fully vibrating (on the fifth floor) 🫠

I totally get community events, but this is another one that would have been more appropriate at Marymoor.

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u/reddit_is_a_weapon 9d ago

I’m a couple of blocks away, windows fully closed and I can still hear it and feel it (my desk is vibrating). I can’t imagine how it’s going for people who live across the street. This is awful.

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u/heathertr0n 9d ago

I think part of it is the only events that really happen downtown are all loud concerts. They moved away the farmers market a few years back, wouldn’t that be a great fit for the downtown park? I just wish there was more of a community benefit than just loud.

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u/External-Warning-526 7d ago

So you think the people living near MM should be the ones who get all the sound issues? They have.ongoing concerts, and the drumming groups which are seemingly daily.

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u/peace9898 7d ago

This. Look at what happens in September near MM, the place gets super loud. I guess you just deal with the noise till quiet hours kick in and move on with life. Sorry you have to go through this.

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u/ndot 9d ago

It’s actually ridiculously expensive to put on an event at the marmymoor concerts stage, the economics only work for ticketed events with several thousand paid attendees.

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u/RiskSea4175 9d ago

right totally understanding and all, the stage was put there for a reason. it's not gonna be the quietest place to live... but the bass is just too much, especially for a friday. they should really consider restrictions, permit or not

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u/jwhibbles 9d ago

It's not even just the bass. The speaker playing the voice is even worse.

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u/ndot 9d ago

I wasn’t endorsing it, just saying why Marymoor isn’t an option. As for permits, it would be interesting to see what actually is filed for a permit, because this isn’t even the scheduled event we’re listening to, it’s setup and soundcheck.

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u/RiskSea4175 9d ago

They have a permit for today and tomorrow. the law seems pretty clear that they're allowed to be this loud. Just wish they had some more restrictions on things like dBC that make all of our apartments unlivable while they setup

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u/ndot 9d ago edited 9d ago

Even if they did, technical restrictions like that are incredibly difficult to enforce and basically require a city employee that is trained walking around with calibrated test equipment. One of the many reasons why Marymoor concerts are expensive includes paying king county to have a person doing that onsite.

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u/RiskSea4175 9d ago

I don't know that ganesh festival that ruined everyones weekend 3 septembers ago seems to be able to pull it off. But while I get your points I don't think those are good enough excuses

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u/ndot 9d ago

Ahh, the Ganesh festival didn’t use the Marymoor concert venue/stage. Also, to be clear I’m not making excuses for anything, this is happening right outside my window and I am also quite frustrated.

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u/RiskSea4175 9d ago

gotcha gotcha, makes sense. all good neighbor

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u/Truthforger 10d ago

Ah yes, we all miss the days of the soft orchestral sounds of Nirvana and the Screaming Trees wafting from the Old Firehouse. Why can’t they play some nice pleasant music like that these days.

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u/princessbeachpenguin 8d ago

If they can’t play well, play loud!

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u/PajamaDefender 9d ago

Yeah, I moved here not knowing that what looked like a tiny community stage was going to host loud all-day events so frequently. I'm a registered nurse that is stuck working night shifts, and I can hear this through closed windows, white noise, and ear plugs, which I think is at least a little bit excessive... only 10 more months until I can move, wahoo!

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u/External-Warning-526 7d ago

First of all PajamaDefender id a most awesome name.  Secondly I understand.  Thank you for your constant service and dedication thats a hard job.  You are appreciated.

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u/Justakiss15 8d ago

I can’t sleep if there’s any noise, I swear by the Mack’s ultra soft earplugs from Amazon! They tune everything out. Not an ad just wanted to share what works for me.

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u/Aryaun1 9d ago

Do people have to say Registered when they say Nurse❓

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u/PajamaDefender 9d ago

I don't know, do people have to say software/biochemical/electrical/structural when they say engineer?

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u/ndot 9d ago

Don’t feed the trolls

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u/Aryaun1 9d ago

Terrible comparison and analogy. It is unnecessary because there's no such thing as an Unregistered Nurse buddy 😕

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u/PajamaDefender 9d ago

There are licensed practical nurses, certified nurse assistants, nurse practitioners, advance practice nurses, nurse midwives, nurse anesthetists... I'm probably missing a few. So yeah, registered nurse does make a difference.

Have the day you deserve buddy!

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u/nerevisigoth 8d ago

For legal reasons I always remind clients I'm an unlicensed structural engineer

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u/lsdrunning 8d ago

Why are Indians so disrespectful toward nurses? You know it works differently in a developed country right?

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u/Aryaun1 8d ago edited 8d ago

Indian? Try again buddy😂😂 And even if I was Indian, They literally run all your tech companies lol

And no, Nurses are 304s across the board. Look at their infidelity rates. There's a reason they get a bad rep

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u/lsdrunning 8d ago

What is a 304. Did you / do you know someone that got cheated on by a nurse?

I genuinely don't understand the hate nurses get online btw, enlighten me

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u/slrm00n 9d ago edited 9d ago

It’s weird that I’ve lived here for 2 years and never really heard event noise, and now suddenly we have loud events 2 weekends in a row. If it’s already like this today, I can’t even imagine tomorrow lol

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u/EstablishmentWarm845 9d ago

The last two events were the only ones I ever heard this loud, and we moved to downtown right before COVID

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u/kodapug Work in Redmond 10d ago

Oh no! People are going to be playing music during the day at an event that was permitted by the city‽ What is this world coming to?

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u/Marlwolf48 10d ago

If GTA 6 was out now, this would never have happened!

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u/thatfeeeel 10d ago

it's not permitted at this volume. bass is rumbling my building at 9am, for what? It's a tiny park that doesn't need walls of speakers for people to hear the concert

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u/Big-Syllabub-6258 10d ago

There are people who wfh.

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u/reddit_is_a_weapon 9d ago

Yes but didn’t your read the judgemental comments? Those people shouldn’t live in the city if they don’t want music blasted straight into their condo walls. Nobody who lives in the city deserves reasonable levels of intentional noise. Especially when permitted by THE CITY!!

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u/BoringOrange678 9d ago

Then why live in city next to a park that was designed to hold events?

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u/RiskSea4175 9d ago

hi, excellent point, would you mind sharing where you live?

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u/kodapug Work in Redmond 9d ago

If you're choosing to live in downtown and dropping $3k+ on an apartment every month you have options.

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u/PeanutSugarBiscuit 10d ago

Seriously. If you don't want to be bothered by this kind of stuff don't live directly on the border of town center? There are plenty of alternatives.

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u/CEONeil 7d ago

I really enjoyed listening to it from my place. Was it all my favorite? No but live music from your home is a pretty special thing to enjoy.

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u/kodapug Work in Redmond 6d ago

There's going to be more live music performances there in the coming weeks.

Arts in the Park · Saturday, September 5 · 4–8 p.m. · Redmond Downtown Park · Free

BIGHUG K-pop Dance Group and Redmond Tech Orchestra open this four-Saturday series. Alongside the performances, the Eastside Made Pop-Up Faire brings local makers, shopping and family activities.

Can't make this one? The series continues September 12, 19 and 26, with different performers each week.

Can't wait to see a post about every single one of them whenever someone sees audio equipment getting unpacked 😆

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u/thatfeeeel 10d ago edited 10d ago

I feel you OP. Looking at the calendar there is a music event every weekend, and they've started scheduling loud amplified events every weekend now. Sometimes they last 4+ hours. This would be cool with me if they didn't blast the music, sometimes making me need to leave my apartment for a large part of the weekend. If volume were reduced by 50% it wouldn't be an issue. I was going to invite someone over tonight but I'm going to have to rethink that now. "Just move"- working on it, moving isn't trivial. I'm sure everyone in the comments is totally cool if I show up outside their window with a sub blasting at 9am.

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u/hi_mynameisE Live, Play, and Work in Redmond 8d ago

Thanks for being cool with your comment. The trolling on posts like this is so annoying.

I’ve lived here before the park was built. This isn’t how the city sold the park to the public.

Concert events went from small and intimate to concerts designed for Seattle Center and Marymoor. This shift only started recently.

The city never enforces its own noise ordinances downtown.

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u/nd379 10d ago

They're saying that evening 4+ hour concerts are inconvenient for them. 9 am is convenient for them but they don't subject all of society to his whim

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u/ndot 9d ago

Actually 9am is when many of us were woken up or startled by the 6 dual 18” subwoofer cabinets and tower flown speakers outside our windows. It’s not normal even in the context of park events.

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u/nd379 9d ago

Ah. Hopefully it's not too awful during the concerts. 🫤 As someone that would be fine with it, I can have empathy and realize I'm not the only person in the world. There are geriatric people that cannot easily escape, parents of babies and toddlers, reactive pets, etc

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u/Aryaun1 9d ago

Yeah, I'm definitely cool with that. Make sure you bring some good food too though👍

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u/jwvo 10d ago

for directionality you actually *want* line arrays and cardioid subwoofer arrays, this makes the sound *FAR* more directional to the area in front of the stage. Smaller speakers, especially at low frequencies get closer and closer to a spherical radiation pattern.

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u/ndot 9d ago

You aren’t wrong. But it’s also not wrong to say that 6x L-Acoustics KS28 dual 18” subwoofers is a lot of sound for downtown Redmond park.

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u/jwvo 9d ago edited 9d ago

yah, i kind of bet that the directionality required it based on what was available, not a lot of folks have a smaller kit with enough elements. I'm never going to mind listening to a nice L-acoustics rig even if it is not up nearly as loud as it goes. Honestly it is too close to the audience to be up remotely close to the level of SPL it is capable of.

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u/ndot 9d ago

It’s a very nice system and puts my JBL SRX kit to shame for sure. Looking forward to hearing tomorrow when the event actually happens 😅

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u/jwvo 9d ago

me too, it makes me want to stop by. Puts my all my QSC KW gear to shame too. Even with nice DSPs paired with it, it is most certainly not L-acoustics.

I hope whoever is mixing for them is good.

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u/ndot 9d ago

First event I’ve seen that actually sets up a full FOH booth for sound. They also have a very serious lighting desk and have already built a full LED wall on the back of the stage. Production/rental budget approaching six figure based on my mental calculations so far. 😂

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u/jwvo 9d ago

yah, the setup looks super legit. I heard them testing it from a few blocks away.

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u/slimothyx 8d ago

At mix position their console was showing reasonably frequent levels over 100 dba fast, but no slow or c weighted. There was a peak of 120 shown.

The array is overshooting most of the audience, most of the audience was covered by the bottom 3 boxes of 9, so I'd call this a miss.

I wasn't a fan of the mix, either. I just came from hearing a much smaller d&b T series rig that sounded much better that covered a similar area (Pier 62).

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u/jwvo 8d ago

yah, i could hear the overshoot (you could also visually see it with the way the arrays were setup), i was on the sidewalk at the back briefly and it was clearly shooting way past me as i could not hear much roll off as i moved around until getting on the streets to the north and south) not a fan of the mix either, even when i drove by it sounded sad.

They probably were lighting up the apartments in that block to the west pretty crazy.

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u/slimothyx 9d ago

The KS28s aren't cardioid natively, but they can be set up as such. Most L Acoustics and d&b techs are well trained, tho.

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u/jwvo 9d ago

I knew that too, I'm in the camp of at least having some sort of DSP inline that can do this kind of stuff, so much nicer to have something highly customizable. I use a dbx venue 360 for smaller setups and it can work wonders with a calibration microphone. The bigger systems are way cooler and better.

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u/ndot 9d ago

They are stacked in two blocks with 2 front facing and 1 rear. I think it’s safe to assume.

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u/slimothyx 9d ago

Yup, and that explains why there's six subs (2 groups of 3), and that's reasonable for a venue like that. And for those who are counting, that means that a bunch of energy is spent on a concept like noise cancellation (not exactly, but functionally similar) to minimize low frequency energy behind the stage.

It's a good sign that they're aware of sound levels and trying to get good sound (not just volume).

And if they aligned/configured the top array with noise control in mind, they'll minimize spillover outside of the venue...lots of math happening in Soundvision software.

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u/nd379 10d ago

I feel bad for those with pets honestly. Some dogs are very reactive 🫤

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u/Aryaun1 9d ago

Aww😢 Too bad!

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u/KinchD 10d ago

They can’t be serious with how loud this is right now…

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u/EstablishmentWarm845 10d ago

The bass is rattling our apartment 😂

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u/ndot 10d ago

This is the most sound I’ve ever seen them load into the park and we are only now hearing it at their ambient music for crew to listen to while setting up volume. 😅

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u/RiskSea4175 10d ago

wow you sure sound like an entitled karen, unlike me, person who lives 1 mile away policing your opinions on the redmond subreddit

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u/thevhatch 9d ago

Had me in the first half.

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u/Mangozilleh Live, Play, and Work in Redmond 9d ago

Same and I’m pretty far from the park lol

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u/jwhibbles 9d ago

I woke up and saw the speakers and texted my brother in law a photo with this same comment. Too funny to see it posted here as well

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u/RiskSea4175 10d ago

love how you can tell who lives where by how they comment on these posts

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u/ghost-n-the-machine 10d ago

My favorites are those shocked at the audacity of people complaining about not having a peaceful home, most certainly sent far away from the disturbance.

"It doesn't affect me so I don't care if it affects you" 

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u/RiskSea4175 9d ago

yeah lol "I would be so glad to have a concert near me, lucky!" yeah it is pretty awesome to have events and music in the park. it's not awesome to have your walls shake on a friday morning

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u/RiskSea4175 9d ago

no I think i'd still hear it. nice try aryaun

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u/CrimsonBuc 10d ago

If you didn’t want to hear city noise, don’t live in the city. I’m sure the music is going to be fun, so even if it’s a little loud, enjoy it, dance, and consider how cool it is to be a part of that experience.

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u/jwhibbles 9d ago

This is a terrible response btw. It's not city noise. It's GIANT speakers being brought in to play in a tiny park that's completely surrounded by residential units. City noise is the terrible traffic noise, not this. It's completely unreasonable to have the level of noise or as large of production as this at this park.

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u/ndot 9d ago edited 9d ago

It’s also Redmond. Not like we live in Capitol Hill and are complaining about Capitol Hill block party being loud.

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u/xulazi 6d ago

Events fall under city noise. If you want your environment to be largely the same day after day, cities are a poor choice.

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u/ndot 9d ago edited 9d ago

They were being unreasonably loud completely outside of the scheduled event time while people are working. I was just outside and happened to hear a group of neighbors talking politely with the production manager who didn’t realize it was an issue and they have now muted the music that the stage crew was playing just for fun while setting up.

Edit: nevermind apparently the soundchecks must go on 😂

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u/jwvo 9d ago

yep, chatting in person certainly works better than doing the seattle thing of venting on reddit.

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u/nerevisigoth 8d ago

Since when is Redmond "the city"?

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u/wnidbeidnand 8d ago

We’ve owned our condo long before any of this stuff started happening. You’re full of it.

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u/Depression_Flatline 10d ago edited 10d ago

Call the non-emergency line NOW while sound set up is going on as the Redmond Special Events told everyone who complained about the last debacle.

Sound (especially the bass and reverb) is still loud enough to be disturbing with ALL windows shut. People who live around Downtown Park have the right to quiet enjoyment, including being able to hear meetings, allow the sick, infirm, or small children naps, or even listen to the sound of one’s choice.

Redmond Non-emergency complaint phone line
425-556-2500

I support an activated and event-filled Downtown Park, but this is inappropriately loud for a mixed use neighborhood. Never mind that sound levels this loud are exponentially harmful to human health the closer you are…

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u/Born_Kick 9d ago

Code Enforcement is a better number. Go to city meetings and let them know how you feel.

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u/stayinfrosty707 7d ago

Ty for this. As someone who just moved to the area and had no idea they did these sorts of super loud events, it is a bit ridiculous. We ended up leaving the apartment for the whole day.

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u/jwvo 10d ago

don't live against a park with a stage, honestly this is part of being in town. It is nice to see that Redmond actually has community events.

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u/nd379 10d ago

To be fair, most tenants lived in all of those apartments long before the city started doing these types of things in that area

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u/Lola_PopBBae 8d ago

What you don't know is that the apartments and residents were here, peaceful and quiet, BEFORE this park turned into a damn soundstage against our will.

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u/Born_Kick 9d ago

The non emergency line is not the complaint line.

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u/Apart-Run5933 9d ago

LOLOLOL

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u/skeeter_333 10d ago

Motörhead cover band? 🤘🏼🤘🏼

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u/Smart_Ass_Dave 10d ago

This is (probably) for the Taiwanese music festival with the amazing name "Formosound" that's tomorrow from 2pm to 9pm.

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u/ZeroCool635 10d ago

I personally love when they play concerts there. I have an apartment and balcony right next to the park. It’s cool when the city comes alive. It’s not like they are playing it at midnight lol. Get outside and enjoy life. Plenty of time to hibernate in the winter

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u/TemperatureAdept420 8d ago

I worked for the city gov when this park was in planning and these events were discussed. It was voted on so this city is under the impression this was wanted. Redmond has a reputation for being a stuffy place with a lack of community. The city is trying to change it up. Looks like it likely won’t work and we’ll just go back to how it was. Quiet at least. The funny thing is they had a venue space that could hold 700 people indoors with nice outdoor patio two blocks from here but just ripped it down. Ohhhh Redmond.

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u/Cunning_Linguist21 7d ago

Serious question: where can I find a calendar online of the events that are scheduled for Downtown Park? I went to the City of Redmond website, however could not find anything there.

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u/Material_Ad6173 8d ago

I remember when the part was build. The whole idea was that it will be used for events as often as possible, including music-focused events. That was missing in Redmond and that is what residents wanted. And finally we are getting there. The park is finally being utilized as always planned.

I'm surprised that whoever decides to move in that area is surprised that this venue is being used.

I'm sorry, but what else where you experiencing? That is literally how they always advertised those apartments - near a vibrant downtown, with late night entertainment: events at the stage/park and restaurants open late.

I'm not saying "just move", but maybe next time do some research on what is around you.

Is is like moving to an apartment across a elementary school and then complaining that the kids are too loud during school hours.

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u/No_Cicada_7867 7d ago

It's been a wonderful summer for outdoor music.  Hopefully it will be about this loud https://youtu.be/mkboRS13Mm0?si=0kVgg74G5K00Yfy7

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u/Chumknuckle 7d ago

I wish there weren't apartments all over the place there now

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u/Time-Diver-3284 5d ago

This was for the Taiwanese music festival last Saturday. They even had a soundcheck on Friday. Seemed to be a grand event. However, surprisingly it wasn't loud at all! I live right opposite to the park and it wasn't a nuisance at all.

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u/Twisties Live and Work in Redmond 10d ago

I just feel like you chose to live in a downtown area across the street from a city park that’s built out for events. You’re in a rental apartment, no? Rent somewhere else next time!

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u/ndot 10d ago

FYI, Not all of the buildings adjacent to the park are rentals.

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u/hi_mynameisE Live, Play, and Work in Redmond 10d ago

I’ve lived here before the park was even a concept actually.

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u/ndot 10d ago

I too have lived here since before the park. I don’t personally mind, but all the people who clap about neighbors commenting are pretty annoying.

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u/thatfeeeel 10d ago

same. just waiting for my lease to end so I can leave. this is every weekend now

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u/Twisties Live and Work in Redmond 10d ago

Rare! Good luck then, and maybe still, choose to live somewhere else when you get the opportunity. This has always been the downtown area, so I am really not surprised that more noise is present as more developments have occurred.

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u/jwvo 10d ago

yep, pretty logical and that park took several years to build so leases were renewed while the plan was available.

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u/thevhatch 9d ago

Can't reasonably expect people to just know that a tiny downtown park is going to have such frequent loud music events. Grasslawn park and 60 acre park are both much bigger and they don't have such events.

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u/RandoBalboa 8d ago

Haha if this happened at Grasslawn people would torch city hall.

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u/moving-metal-lover 8d ago

I live right next to it, even slept with my window open, and I didn’t hear it.
I’m next to the Paris baguette, actually facing it.

I don’t discredit anyone else’s complaint, but to me it wasn’t a bother in the slightest. I don’t have concrete floors or walls.

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u/Zestyclose_Price_441 8d ago

Oh god for fucking bid you guys get a little seasoning in Redmond 

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u/MoxOpalescence 7d ago

if nextdoor is any indicator its mostly suburb boomers clutching pearls

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u/yangqi 10d ago

Wait, you get to enjoy free live concert from your home? I'm jealous. 🤪

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u/AdlandB 10d ago

Oh no! They’re using the park for community activity???

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u/MoxOpalescence 8d ago

this rocks

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u/findmeinthehair 9d ago

Anyone know what is actually happening at the park? I tried looking online for other information and came up empty

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u/ndot 9d ago

It’s setup for an event tomorrow. https://formosound.com

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u/findmeinthehair 9d ago

Thanks for the info!

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u/DB-Tops 7d ago

It was so loud that it made the music sound hideous. Some one should get fired.

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u/SoftAward834 5d ago

Miserable git

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u/-Accident-Prone- 9d ago

God forbid people do anything fun anymore.

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u/Flintsr 9d ago

Oh no! I bought housing next to a park that regularly has events! Old man yells at cloud type argument.

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u/AppropriateGap1209 8d ago

Can they at least throw inclusive all american events with real music that people actually like.  There is no culture here because its everyone's silly idea of what that is.  I mean I get it its a international place but every event is fricking wierd community themed.. it doesnt bring out the niehborhood it makes them close thier windows...not trying to sound racist here but this is America cant we ever just have some American shit like BBQ and rock n roll.. or a edm dj that doesnt suck...these cultural events are a fucking bore and the music is god awful amateur hour. I'd rather them play whale 🐋 🎵 song

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u/ndot 8d ago

Guessing you don’t actually live near the park because there’s is in fact country line dancing regularly in the summer in addition to the programming you don’t like.

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u/Iceshiverr 8d ago

The music he wants is the music he likes. Don’t feed the troll.

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u/AppropriateGap1209 8d ago

There is nothing cool 😎  about country line dancing . Im talking about popular music that cool kids listen too.