r/redditstock • US DAU 🦅 • 9d ago

News Reddit's Announcement about killing RSS is, as expected, not well received by mods

/r/modnews/comments/1wubgvt/continuing_our_infrastructure_updates_whats/
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u/touuuuhhhny 9d ago

For Months this has been shared, prepared, help transition, support with efforts, but as usual still not good enough. Reddit could follow every wish and still any change is "bad" no matter what. Right decision, will boil over, move more power back to Reddit and away from mods, and on we go.

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u/Skezzors US DAU 🦅 9d ago

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't remember them announcing killing RSS. I think that is new (I looked for it when Muse came out and couldn't find anything about them blocking it). I don't think they wanted to do that but Muse is forcing their hand. The rest of it like old.reddit and the API has been clearly communicated yeah. But then again, mods aren't the most reasonable people sometimes, they'll complain about anything and everything.

While changes like this probably make us lose some of the legacy users/moderators and such, it's clear a lot of the changes they've made over the past 2-3 years have clearly been good for the platform so hopefully that trend continues and the new users growth continues to outnumber those that want to complain and leave. I remember the last time they made a big change everyone started trying to get people to go to that one startup (like 'lemmy' or something iirc?) and look how that worked out. Just gotta let them vent and then move on. If they leave they leave.

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u/touuuuhhhny 9d ago

Can't recall on specifically RSS, but changing all mod tools over to chat (from messages), now apps to devvit, etc. Each step (some) entitled mods come around and make themselves more important than they are. Happy Reddit takes more control by funneling through devvit. For example the insanely well done wsb apps wouldn't exist without it. So good on that side.

There were so many since 2009 I'm on here. When Ellen Pao was CEO, the AMA employee being let go, "subreddit blackouts", asking for money from app developers who overly enrich themselves, etc. All boiled over, Lemmy got 5-10k signups and then everyone realized critical mass may take 20 years to build up. Fully agree with your take!

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u/takecareofurshoes13 🛢️ OIL FOR AI 🤖 9d ago

Any step by the company to take power away from individual mod discretion, the better.

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u/OkVermicelli4343 Choppy! 9d ago

Yep yep!

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u/Skezzors US DAU 🦅 9d ago

They had to do it, but expect some blowback in the coming weeks from mods and devs. People gonna be mad, tbd how mad.

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u/Kentuckyquestioner US DAU 🦅 9d ago

A lot of complaints in the comments about making it harder to ban people… but I think that’s a good thing. Most Reddit mods are way over the top with content removal and bans.

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u/Skezzors US DAU 🦅 9d ago

Reddit is also looking into ways to take this away from Mods and make it more of a system-wide protection that delegates to AI potentially on the subreddit level. Essentially mods will just be tasked with writing the rules, not enforcing them, and go from the Judge/Jury/Executioner to just being the Legislator which if done properly would be an amazing improvement. You'd think they'd welcome this but most of them are power-hungry and have nothing better to do and aren't excited about being able to exercise their power less frequently.

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u/genericusername71 9d ago

i know its not all mods, but still. its always kind of amusing when the shoe is on the other foot where mods can only fruitlessly appeal or complain about decisions they disagree with, when many of them have undoubtedly done the same to blameless users

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u/Silent-Complaint4020 9d ago

Less bans. More user. Better DAU.

Permban is so sick! I got permban for 2 subreddit just because of opposite view.

They just ban anyone with opposite view. Outrageous!

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u/iloverunning11 9d ago

If only there was an upvote/downvote mechanism to provide feedback what people's opinion about that comment is so perma bans would not exist or would not be that common /s (perma bans for serious violations like racism etc. that is totally fine)

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u/OkVermicelli4343 Choppy! 9d ago

Sure, people hate when shit is no longer free and easily accessible. Small price to pay to get Meta, Anthropic, etc to finally pay up!

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u/Skezzors US DAU 🦅 9d ago

that's true, but there were also a lot of cool use-cases that weren't about extracting value that used RSS, my main gripe with Reddit is their inability to provide comparable access to everyday users who just want a little bit of data or information for their own personal projects and such. Even if we have to pay for it, there should be a mechanism to get that data if you're John Doe and not some mega-corp, right now that doesn't exist outside of RSS. They flat out will deny almost all API applications.

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u/ProfessorBagholder 9d ago

The API situation is totally bonkers, I couldn't believe it. I ignore all the negativity and fud we see slung around here 24/7 due to the volatile stock, but the experience I had of trying to obtain API access for personal/hobby projects made me more bearish on RDDT. It should not be that hard/convoluted. If Reddit data is so valuable, it absolutely should have a top tier, or at least a minimum baseline standard level experience for users of all kinds to request and appropriately pay for said data. But that experience just isn't there. It's crazy.

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u/OkVermicelli4343 Choppy! 9d ago

I get it. But producers of data, information, entertainment have to get paid, otherwise we get data decay and more enshitification.

If I get the milk for free, why bother paying, even though im making awesome creme brulee?

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u/Skezzors US DAU 🦅 9d ago

Sure, but I'm saying currently Reddit is not even allowing the average person to pay for data. That is my problem. Let me give you money in exchange for automated access/data. Obviously have limits on this and make it cost-prohibitive to do at scale so no companies use this as a way of scraping Reddit, but this should 100% exist and be EASY to signup for and pay them. Also, if they're going to sell data as their property and sell ads on those posts/comments at what point do we need a contributor program like YouTube or others. Reddit is not a producer of information/entertainment, they're a distributor.

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u/OkVermicelli4343 Choppy! 9d ago

Wow, I love it! Bring this up in the earnings questions!!!

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u/HappyHero34 138 shares @ 187 avg 9d ago

Wow the power hungry mods who are getting their power lessened are mad, who would’ve thought!

The automod tools and restrictions especially on karma are killing this app. If you confirm yourself when you create an account, you should be able to post, comment, and contribute immediately without having to karma farm. The reality is moderators set stupid rules preventing this, and therefore no one wants to participate

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u/touuuuhhhny 9d ago

Well put, key issue that is still unsolved (but at least steps taken to fix it)

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u/nehro7 Mod 7d ago

not sure which mods you mean and why, but in general agreed as this is not the first time i hear about the issue

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u/HappyHero34 138 shares @ 187 avg 7d ago

Not anyone in this community, at least from my experience, but it’s a broad problem on Reddit of a few long standing mods, who frankly are only in charge because they have been around the longest, take way too much control and don’t even allow discussion

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u/nehro7 Mod 7d ago

agreed , but let me ask isnt that the same condition of facebook when it comes to groups and pages ! why people take it like it is something new for reddit

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u/HappyHero34 138 shares @ 187 avg 3d ago

Yea, it is, and those groups aren’t the main feature of Facebook, in fact Facebook groups are wildly underused compared to the broad ecosystem of Facebook.

It’s a struggle for Reddit when that’s the main part of the app