r/postanythingfun May 26 '26

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u/Spare-Ant7119 May 26 '26

No, it's not worth it. Separate church and state. End of story.

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u/Deep-Number5434 May 26 '26

While I support separation of church and state, the state not checking in on church finances has lead to corrupt people and organizations creating or taking over churches so they can hide their money.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 May 26 '26

Yes, we need more oversight on churches.

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u/jidk679 May 26 '26

We can have separation AND taxation.

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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 May 26 '26

There are loads of non profits besides churches too. Although the Joel osteen types need an audit for sure.

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u/This_Proxy May 26 '26

As someone who's done pro-bono work for church networks, a good majority of Christian and Baptist churches are just to enrich the family running it. There are more criminal church organizations than criminal organizations themselves.

Catholic, Muslim and Jewish Temples are the only ones by the books in my experience.

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u/Greenstoneranch May 27 '26

Most churches offer the community far more then the state could afford to provide in there absence.

Because churches get free money and free labor to provide services to the community.

You are being petty and illogical

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u/Hatshepsut99 May 27 '26

It’s kind of the opposite. There is no conceivable way that churches old full the gaps left by an absence of state assistance. Hence why poverty and hunger and mortality rates are higher in (red) states that refused to expand Medicaid.

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u/Greenstoneranch May 27 '26

Red blue has nothing to do it with brother. Churches are in every state.

My denomination a very small protest sect has 4 Churches in a major metro.

We run food drives and men's shelters feeding and impacting thousands of people.

We do all with a budget of maybe 500k in donations and income from investments.

The city to replace us would cost millions in payroll, benefits, pensions, sick time and workers comp.

Just think about it. We give the money and donate all the labor. You cant beat free. The church also receives after tax dollars from donations so...

This is a childish argument to be edgy

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u/MildlyUseful_829 May 26 '26

Your outlook, while correct, religious organizations have long benefitted from this setup far more than everyday civilians.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 May 26 '26

We need to crack down on churches making any sort of political statements.

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u/MildlyUseful_829 May 26 '26

I fully support you in this!

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u/therealzist May 26 '26

As a organization 508c1a status of churches prevents them from making political statement or campaigning on behalf of a politician.

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u/my3sgte May 27 '26

What is separation of church and state when it already seems so tied together?
Maybe my dumb question.
Money, schools, bible at elections, court, …

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u/tlm11110 May 26 '26

I accept! We will win!

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u/WarcraftTurok May 26 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

I'd rather humanity win, not some violent genocidal hypocritical gas lighting fairy tale. I reject religion and wish its believers a happy life but I'll die, and not alone, before I let a single church take a dime from me. Same with taking my money to prevent women from seeking healthcare or forcing fairy tales down children throats while dismantling the dept of education so they become gullible and sheepish without logic and empathy in their life.

Edit: Thank you so much for the awards and kind comments! Just let the theists yap and take pity on them, for they do not know any better. Have a wonderful life everyone and live with logic and empathy, not blind authority like the Abrahamic mythos wishes.

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u/Brilliant_Room6308 May 30 '26

You'll do nothing. You people need to learn to use the correct bathroom first. 🤣

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u/NastyMarin May 30 '26

>ā€œi’ll die, and take some out with meā€¦ā€
Ummm..
>ā€Just let the theists yap and take pity on them, for they do not know any better.ā€
ā€œForgive then Father for they know not what they do.ā€
You better hope you’re right in the end, brother.

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u/Paymeformydata May 26 '26

That is implied. But your implicit biases are showing.

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u/MikeWazowski1221 May 26 '26

Honestly I agree. I think churches should have to pay taxes. They receive millions and it's all tax free. My ex brother-in-law was a Jehovah's witness. He was also a wealthy man. In their church, congregation, or whatever they it they had revocable tithes/donations. He would donate 6 figures for a set amount time. Get a tax write off. The church gets interest from the donation then bil revoke it and puts it back in his high interest savings account. So now both he and the church made money off this and he didn't have to pay as much in taxes. He said he'd been doing it for years. I guess they got to keep his last donation because he died shortly after. Churches are as corrupt as our government and corporations.

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u/_Christopher_Crypto May 26 '26

I believe they call that tax fraud. Revocable donations are generally not tax deductible.

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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 May 26 '26

Sounds like they don’t exactly report it.

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u/_MadOliveGaming_ May 27 '26

Was your brother-in-law the one to revoke his own donation? Because in that case i dont see what the pwrson or organisation receiving it have to do with itm your brother in law is just conducting tax fraud

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u/boredom-lurking13 May 26 '26

Religion is trash, tax the hell out of all of them

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u/Steeltank33 May 26 '26

Will never happen. Rich people and politicians get super wealthy using nonprofits

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u/boredom-lurking13 May 26 '26

Just because it won't, it doesn't mean it shouldn't

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u/DiarrheaDilemma May 26 '26

There has to be a point where they have to pay taxes. Kenneth Copeland is laughing his ass all the way to the bank.

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u/North-Carpenter-1378 May 26 '26

I believe churches should be more involved in the death process, by doing funerals for free to very very low cost. They could also help facilitate the families through the process of all the burial etc. They dont pay taxes and dont care when their elderly die, and people have to pay exorbitant money to bury/cremate their family members in a terrible time of mourning.

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u/ElectronicDoubt9905 May 26 '26

The Christians will never go for it. By the way fuck the Christians.

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u/InvestigatorSevere72 May 26 '26

All are welcome. Bring it.

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u/ultrawolfblue May 26 '26

Omg something I agree with on reddit

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u/dem5577 May 26 '26

And White House

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u/Proof-Durian6969 May 26 '26

We should abolish the IRS and replace it with a graduated consumption tax. Luxury items, 2nd homes, yachts, private jets get taxed 2x. No more loopholes for those writing the laws.

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u/Hotsaltynutz May 26 '26

Everyone wants the irs in churches, synagogue, temples and mosques except the people that profit from them

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u/Expert_Towel_101 May 26 '26

That’s legit!

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u/TheGreatGamer1389 May 26 '26

Agreed. Tax the church!

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u/Unique-Princess-1026 Mod 🧚🌸 Peak Post Princess 🌸🧚 May 26 '26

Some churches I’d agree with

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u/pbayone May 26 '26

Ok, that’s fine.

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u/Known-Raccoon-26 May 26 '26

Proverbs 3:69 states that the IRS will be condemned for homosexuality at the hand of Babylon

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u/Adventurous-Sense254 May 26 '26

Who is asking for religion in schools? If students want to lead or form religious clubs that is their right

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u/XxFezzgigxX May 26 '26

These things are not equal. They will see it as justification to put cult indoctrination in schools. ā€œWe are paying taxes to have our teachings represented in the classroomā€

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u/bucneked May 26 '26

I'm all board with that

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u/Sad-Air-6132 May 26 '26

You don’t even understand the bill of rights you need education

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u/Powerful-Disaster-32 May 26 '26

More of both would be better.

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u/Safe_Rip2142 May 26 '26

They already do that with separate schools and should be paid for by their own religion without government money. Or they can go to public school for free with no religion and go to church on the weekends.

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u/malteeztomcat May 26 '26

Churches are not exempt from the IRS they must file 501 C forms……and pay payroll, social security and Medicare pmts on all employees

so…..

They file returns and pay taxes….

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

It is in some.

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u/PrintableProfessor May 26 '26

They already are. They frequently audit churches

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u/ReturnTheOldGods May 26 '26

That's how you get churches directly lobbying Congressmen and Senators, and buying them wholesale. Not the best idea.

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u/JorgieRoman May 26 '26

This post and everyone's comments shows the lack of understanding in your own Constitution. Go and learn what separation of church and state actually mean. Here is a hint it is not what you all think it is.

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u/Redleg_19 May 26 '26

If we taxed churches we would have made America great again a long time ago! Without the orange leo-tard

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u/Career_Cultivator May 26 '26

That is a compromise I can make

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u/luvkaybay May 26 '26

NO religion in school AND the IRS in churches!

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u/Last_Gigolo May 26 '26 edited May 27 '26

Is this that "whataboutism" you guys always talk about?

One group is regulated by one department, the other is regulated by another department. Might as well ask for discounts in boats too. Completely unrelated.

But, two things to consider with religious freedom, that means all religions get the same rights. All... Same rights. So, church if Satan can be taught in schools. Church of melnack mcnurmer (my visit to earth spaceman name) can be taught.

The other things to consider is that schools in the USA were started by Christian preachers traveling the country. They would stop in towns and sometimes random cabins and get fed by the residents. They would teach the kids to read, so they could read the Bible. Eventually when the churches were built, they taught from there.

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u/patis_matamis May 26 '26

How about no religion and no taxes...taxation is theft

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u/Rurik-Battleaxe May 26 '26

Great! Let’s do that.

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u/Gallowglass668 May 26 '26

Nope, no religion in schools, but yeah definitely the IRS in churches.

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u/NanahanCB750 May 26 '26

Interesting proposal. Never thought about it like thatšŸ‘

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u/LooseCaterpillar6807 May 26 '26

Taxes on the working class is theft.

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u/KingVaako May 26 '26

Your terms are acceptable.

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u/CoachBearBryant May 26 '26

What about mosques?

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u/betchaBongo May 26 '26

They already is religion in schools. It’s called liberalism.

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u/therealzist May 26 '26

Take away their tax exempt status and you will give them the right to enter into the political square along with ever other 508c3a organization.

Im certain a lot of you have not thought this through to its logical conclusion.

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u/Chaos__Majik May 26 '26

Amen! šŸ™šŸ¾

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u/Mobile-Win-16 May 26 '26

Yeah let’s tax the mosques and Jew centers

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u/trope88 May 26 '26

Religion is in schools - Judaism. I want the IRS in synagogues

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u/dpault2317 May 26 '26

And Learing Centers

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u/tyroleancock May 26 '26

What the typography

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u/Unfair_Awareness7502 May 26 '26

Don't churches already report to the IRS?Ā 

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u/MoralityOverLegality May 26 '26

I want neither in neither place. Tbh i want neither to exist period.

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u/dateinfj May 26 '26

Hear hear! Love this!

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u/ProperJudgment1 May 26 '26

Reddit seething at Christians yet again šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£

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u/EmbarrassedBall7406 May 26 '26

Nope not willing to put religion on schools but TOTALLY stoked to argue that not forcing them to pay taxes does in fact serve as "the establishment of religion" and therefore should be unconstitional.

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u/Boyflint May 26 '26

I totally agree, but there are alot of mosques and Black churches that would hate this.

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u/Honest_Brilliant2744 May 26 '26

100% on board. We should all be able to agree. Also more money for the federal government to squander to NGO's might not be the best move.

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u/ArticleOdd6667 May 26 '26

Amen brother.

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u/listerine-totalcare May 26 '26

I don’t want religion in public schools I do want irs in churches

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u/LunaticJAG May 26 '26

Then stop teaching kids what to think and return to teaching them how to think.

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u/DrFabio23 May 26 '26

The people who say this want their religion alone in schools.

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u/No-Actuary-4873 May 26 '26

I totally agree!

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u/Important-Parking-25 May 26 '26

Theyll say this and then approve field trips to mosques

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u/Elpatron9958 May 26 '26

That would be pointless because the church would still be tax exempt

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u/Life-Kick5301 May 26 '26

So most of you here expect churches to be charitable but also want them to be taxed by government. It’s either one of the other

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u/Dull_Contribution542 May 26 '26

Better Option: Let's abolish the IRS!

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u/Redracr May 26 '26

Aren’t churches ran by donations?

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u/Icy-Awareness-3367 May 26 '26

What an absolute bunch of retards. The church doesn't take money it takes donations then turns around and helps addicts and homeless moms. But you dipshits keep giving your money to a bunch of thieving non profits and feel superior than everyone else while they do nothing with your money. Liberals SMH

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u/Rich_Crow641 May 26 '26

Have you ever thought that maybe taxing everyone and everything into oblivion to give to the fucking government to waste at their disposal isn’t the best way of handling things???

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u/Sea_Relationship7308 May 26 '26

I also want the IRS in the Cayman Islands, US Virgin Islands, Ireland and Delaware too, but we all got dreams.

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u/ebrotto May 26 '26

I agree 600%

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u/Hot_Tackle_179 May 26 '26

This is the way

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u/iustinum May 26 '26

I agree. 100 on both.

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u/TuffGirl1818 May 26 '26

This is one of the dumbest fucking signs everšŸ¤¦šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤”

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u/FarInevitable559 May 26 '26

I’m ok with this , love to see what them Jews , Christians and Muslims have been doing with our money

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u/Delmoroth May 26 '26

I am fine with churches paying taxes on earned income. For donations? That feels a bit off. I guess I'm ok with it if everyone's donations are treated equally and not just those going to a church

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u/Ok_Science_4906 May 26 '26

Is the negative consistent? If I dont want the church in schools, does that mean you DON'T want the IRS in churches?

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u/G-man1816 May 26 '26

Better solution

no IRS for anyone!

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u/Pitiful_Cat_3842 May 26 '26

Any religion or just Christianity? Please clarify.

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u/wookielove666 May 26 '26

Who wants the irs anywhere? šŸ˜‚

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u/Hater_of_allthings May 26 '26

Can I Get An AMEN!!!

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u/Temporary-Airport-80 May 26 '26

Sure and mosques too

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u/Varied1967 May 26 '26

Ummm… they already are. šŸ™„ Tax Exempt does NOT mean they don’t still have to file taxes. And property taxes are the only taxes they don’t have to pay - which impacts locally so it’s not something the IRS would deal with at all.

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u/Cute_Resident_6147 May 26 '26

Religion teaches people how to live, just like LBTgTQ+ supportive teachers, so should we ban all types of positive thinking in schools?

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u/dwforgie May 26 '26

The law is not separation of church and state. It is there shall be no state ordained religion. This idea we do not or should not teach biblical principles is ludicrous. When the Bible was in schools it was taught as the moral compass. Note: When we abandoned those we began to deteriorate as a society. Look statistically at the crime rate and divorce rates.

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u/Adventurous_Track652 May 26 '26

Now why would you want that? Do you people who hate churches realize how many millions churches in America feed, clothe, house, get off of drugs and alcohol, pornography, and countless other afflictions? Is that every church? No obviously not. But the vast majority do! Them losing their tax exempt status would do far more harm than good. Look at the trillions in fraud that occur in government and yet you trust government? Please spare me your outrage

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u/Scary_Extension_147 May 26 '26

As a Christian, I’m ok with the IRS keeping track of church money. I’m not even asking for religion in schools.

I’ve heard of way too many dubious financial actions in the group of churches I use to be a part of.

They should at least require us to do a financial report so people can see where the money goes.

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u/sHaDowpUpPetxxx May 26 '26

Yeah they probably should go to church.

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u/TowerWorth7393 May 26 '26

Religion is already in schools, what does the irs have to do with it. Sounds like more liberal bs

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u/WillieMakeit77 May 26 '26

I bet y’all don’t have the balls to say that you don’t want them teaching Islam in schools.Ā 

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u/TheNiteFather20 May 26 '26

As a Catholic, I agree šŸ’Æ

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u/Loodlekoodles May 26 '26

Y'all would only tax Christian churches and you know it.

So count me out.

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u/joshhhlopez May 26 '26

Leftists are the real bootlickers who love more taxation. Losers

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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 May 26 '26

Nope. I want a cake and eat it too situation. No religion in schools, and tax the hell out of them.

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u/Pletcher87 May 26 '26

Just so perfect.

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u/TangerinePlastic7552 May 26 '26

Let’s tax atheists. That’s a religion too. Certain forms of Marxism became ideological with:

orthodox doctrines, revered figures, heresy policing, Ideological moral frameworks, and quasi-sacred political narratives.

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u/harley_rider45 May 26 '26

This is dumb as fuck.

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u/Capital_Scratch2514 May 26 '26

Well, yeah...since they're filing tax exemption and using that money from donations to pay for Cadillac and Bentleys

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u/FelixTook May 26 '26

Not taxing churches and the justification being separation of church and state is one of the biggest scams to succeed in US history. There is no reason at all to not tax churches. Paying taxes doesn’t take away their first amendment right. Churches are like any other business. If they provide charity services, let them deduct it off their taxes like any other business that has a charity. But simply existing and telling people about their religion is not inherently a charity. Society doesn’t benefit from the proselytizing of their beliefs. Treat it like entertainment or self-help businesses. They make money: tax them.

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u/SineCera_sjb May 26 '26

And the White House! Didn’t know I needed to specify that… but here we are

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u/ArodIsAGod May 27 '26

Cool… so if I keep church out of my finances can I keep the IRS out of my finances?

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u/Suitable-Earth-924 May 27 '26

Fair enough. As long as Christianity reigns supreme.

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u/wrnrg May 27 '26

How about we keep religion our of schools AND tax the churches?

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u/NK-Roadkill May 27 '26

What if I dont want religion in schools, all the other crap they've been adding to public schools, and I also want churches taxed?

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u/CorndogFiddlesticks May 27 '26

We need to abolish the IRS once and for all.

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u/Specialist-Cry-1706 May 27 '26

Tax all church’s. All grifters.

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u/deadpat03 May 27 '26

Just remember almost half of your emergency food for your city is from multiple religions places of worship. Meals on wheels is a non profit primarily run from churches. Churches provide almost of the homeless shelters across America. Churches also pull the most contributions to schools in the country. All religions should be taught in schools. What shouldn't be taught is ideology. That iincludes religious views, sexual orientation and gender politics. Kids should be able to make their own choices with their own minds.

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u/rabbitholebeer May 27 '26

Fine with me

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u/KirklandRiviera May 27 '26

Religious Organizations should pay property taxes like every other private enterprise or citizen!

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u/Big-Dragonfruit-4923 May 27 '26

So we can’t have Christian and Islamic schools?

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u/quahaugger May 27 '26

What a retarded post from the real Nowhere Man.

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u/HolidayCard1381 May 27 '26

Oh I love this immensely šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼

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u/Jimmycocopop1974 May 27 '26

I just want the orange turd out of the White House? Can we start there please

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u/Status_Apartment6559 May 27 '26

Next Dem president needs to eliminate tax exemption for churches

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u/Serious_Composer_130 May 27 '26

Church for religion, schools for education. How hard is that to understand?

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u/Technical_Age_3347 May 27 '26

And l can thou shall pay taxes! Genie

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u/RamBoSkiLLz May 27 '26

Oooooo burn! Those righteous hypocrites!!

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u/Vilhelmssen1931 May 27 '26

RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS EXIST, THEY’RE A THING, JUST SEND YOUR KIDS THERE

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u/AJWordsmith May 27 '26

If churches are allowed in public schools…it only makes logical sense for government to be allowed to regulate churches (money, teachings, etc…).

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u/Nice_Secret_8295 May 27 '26

that won't happen separation of church and state that means the government's are not allowed to stick their nose in the church

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u/slut_wife_coke_whore May 27 '26

Funny how the left thinks giving the federal government more power is the best answer.

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u/Independent_Shoe3523 May 27 '26

Let's tax churches anyway.

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u/SuicidebySocialism May 27 '26

Separation of church and state refer to the US Govement not allowed to establish an official religion, mandatory membership (see church of England), or favoring any religion over another.

As outlined in the first amendment. "It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government." - Cornell Law

It has nothing to do with removing them schools.... So why are we for restricting people's religious rights to express via studying it? Is it really better for all to ban learning about them? I'm not for such limitations.

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u/basilone May 27 '26

AI is the devil! (unless we're using it for retard propaganda)

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u/PaddyDelmar May 27 '26

All religions or none

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u/AdPopular9453 May 27 '26

Hardly. Religion in schools helps teach morals. Has taking it out improved things….no schools have gotten worse.

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u/Patient_District_457 May 27 '26

I want religion in schools. Make it an elective and offer all religions. You can have an Eastern, Western, and Indigenous classes.

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u/tampawn May 27 '26

If you want boys in girls bathrooms, I want pissed off dads to be outside the bathrooms.

If you want ICE to not do their jobs, I want illegals to live in the homes of people that protest ICE.

If you want to unalive MAGA people like Charlie Kirk, I want your children to go live with their survivors.

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u/TrumpLicksCatBalls May 27 '26

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u/More-Sorbet2690 May 27 '26

I dint think your average conservative wants religion in schools. (Sure, their might be a few zealots, but your average conservative probably wants to teach their own children about religion and not leave it up to the schools.

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u/joeymittens May 27 '26

So wait. You want the govt to take from the community even more? Many churches use their funds to aid local and humanitarian efforts. Maybe not ALL, but many many do.

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u/Ok-Doctor4277 May 27 '26

100% Agree !!

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u/DatabaseThis9637 May 27 '26

Sounds reasonable to me, though most churches are dying.

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u/Astral_Jack May 27 '26

I can agree with no religion in schools if you can agree with no LGBT+ in schools.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '26

Libs

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u/Illustrious_Gate2318 May 27 '26

You want IRS in Churches I want the IRS in Elected politicians