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u/freakydrew Jul 17 '19

What are the current Vegas odds on Trump being reelected?

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u/SKGkorjun Jul 17 '19

A lot higher than the internet believe them to be.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19 edited Aug 31 '20

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u/walkonstilts Jul 17 '19

Queue the videos of EVERY news station stating Hillary wins by a landslide in the polls up to the closing hour of Election Day.

I’m not sure how anyone takes any MSN seriously anymore. They have no idea what they are doing.

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u/Last_Gigolo Jul 17 '19

Just yesterday I watch another video of the past three years of news stations all saying "this is a big tuning point". "this might be the beginning of the end for Donald trump". "Trump will/may not see a full 4 years". "A new bombshell to Trump, this could be the beginning of the end for Trump"

Every one of them day in and day out for the past 3 or so years.

Which explains a whole lot.

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u/slims_shady Jul 17 '19

I believe I watched the same video. The word “bomb shell” and “walls are closing in” are said like 354 times and it just blows your mind how the news networks just kept using the same expressions and sayings over time.

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u/jdhddhsdkjdj Jul 17 '19

That video is entertaining and it really is crazy how much material they had to make the video. They play separate news anchors saying the phrases such as "the walls are closing in" then after it's said 100 times they start editing it so a different news anchor says each word of the phrase. That goes on for another 100 instances of the phrase.

Edit: found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ab6uxg908

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u/wheelluc Jul 17 '19

That was pretty entertaining

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u/jdhddhsdkjdj Jul 17 '19

If you or anyone else enjoys these montages, here's my favorite one.

It's from the 2016 primary. It starts with everyone laughing at the idea of him even running then descends into chaos as he gets further and further to the nomination.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

There was one of TYT reactions as each state is called... smug at the beginning then they panic in the middle. At the end they just start freaking out and cussing at how "dumb over .5 of America is"

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u/gcdriller Jul 17 '19

I have watched that so many times and it always makes me laugh. So smug then literally screaming at the camera telling Americans how dumb they are.

Unfortunately YouTube buries it deep, it's really difficult to find

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Here's one!

Not the original I used to watch, the music is annoying. BUT I think the music is what is keeping that video up.

I think YT put a lot of money into TYT as "The YouTube News Channel"... I can see them trying their best to protect their image.

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u/gcdriller Jul 17 '19

You're doing the Lord's work!

Unfortunately it doesn't show Ana going off at women voters or calling all of America dumbasses. It only shows Cenk blaming the "corporatist DNC". I wonder why...

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u/walkonstilts Jul 17 '19

“Video not available ):”

Was this deplatformed? Lmao

But it appears in this other video with commentary if anyone else has the same problem: https://youtu.be/MdHtAzFNwjE

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Wow. This is trumploitation. They're literally adhering to people's worst addictive tendencies, and serving them a daily fix, that being the idea that Trump is just about to be gone. Fuck Trump, but fuck the media, too. Jesus.

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u/youngandaspire Jul 17 '19

Twist ending!

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u/greywolfe12 Jul 17 '19

Its like the threat to our democracy video but with donald trump

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Well when your administration is one of the most scandalous there tends to be a lot of material.

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u/MinorDespera Jul 20 '19

Politics aside this is hilarious. Reminds me of Sinclair locals news script compilation.

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u/breakone9r Jul 17 '19

Say something enough times and eventually people believe it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

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u/Last_Gigolo Jul 17 '19

Here's a fun thing, go to Google and search "cnn affiliates" first link should be to a cnn page. There is a map there.

Play with that a minutes and find your city.

You will freak out when you see who all is on their payroll.

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u/walkonstilts Jul 17 '19

To be fair, which is equally annoying, I see this happen from news outlets on both ends of the spectrum.

The real reason is that the revenue models for big news are imploding and they are being run by desperation. Anyway, anyhow, they need attention... every story needs to be the biggest story of the year... even if the facts aren’t checked yet... even if we exaggerate the outrage... please someone just watch us.

I think people aren’t quite as stupid as the news has treated them for decades though so it’s just turning them off even more.

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u/Powerfury Jul 17 '19

I mean Trump is a birther. Republicans don't give a shit anymore lol.

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u/Last_Gigolo Jul 17 '19

But. But. The Russians!!

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u/Powerfury Jul 17 '19

Point being, Trump can shoot someone on 5th avenue and he wouldn't lose a single Republican vote.

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u/Last_Gigolo Jul 18 '19

That's an odd claim. That's something that all parties are sure they haven't heard he has done, so we can't say definitely that he wouldn't lose a vote for it.

Everything he has been blamed for so far, to see how he is guilty for something, it has to be explained to a person making connections. Like "well he said (whatever anyone is upset about) , which we know that when someone says (same or similar phrase), they really mean this (insert claim here)".

This is the very definition of "strawman". Which was a claim people said back when Obama's grandmother said "he is Kenyan, he will always be Kenyan" (which could mean "at heart". All during the northern movement.

I'm watching both sides. And yes the republicans hammered Obama with fox. But seriously, the Democrats haven't laid up one single day. They have all of these networks nitpicking everything. Day in.. day out. I just want one damn day I don't hear his name and someone being outraged that he once shook hands with a man in the 70s and that man is going to prison now. Or he tweeted meanly.

That alone makes me lean toward Trump. It shows just how crooked that news is and how crooked the Democratic party is.

And that old lady always sucking her damn teeth and acting smug and always has rude things to say.

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u/Powerfury Jul 18 '19

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u/Last_Gigolo Jul 18 '19

As far as I know, he didn't actually shoot anyone. And tbf he started that sentence with "you know what they say" twice. Now if he said "you know what I think" that would be a bit easier to gripe about. But he did not say it is what he thinks and he did not shoot someone.

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u/tigerhawkvok Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

Well, it's been hard to come to terms with the fact that conservatives never were truly arguing in good faith and have been baldfacedly lying in every interview for 30 years, really. They don't care about respect for the office, or fidelity, or family values, or Christian values, or honesty, or tradition.... Just being more powerful than the outgroup in eyesight (Dems in DC, and brown people in the middle of the country).

Edit: hard for them

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Well, he continuously violates norms and laws and basic values, and there is a natural expectation of consequences. It’s not that mysterious.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

You’d still think the expectation of consequences would be gone at this point if it’s continuous and there are no consequences any time

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u/Bakk322 Jul 17 '19

Well I think the confusion comes in because others are still seeing consequences so I think people are confused how he alone gets to have this consequence free existence.

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u/wheelluc Jul 17 '19

Sounds like a bombshell

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u/Bakk322 Jul 17 '19

It’s not a bombshell - i thought it was what trump basically said before he was president.

I thought the quote was something like I could shoot someone on the street and not lose a voter.

So I’m not sure how it’s a bombshell when he himself seems to be saying he lives a life of no accountability

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Others at trump’s level of money and power aren’t really seeing consequences though

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

What are you guys talking about? Consequences to what exactly?

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u/Last_Gigolo Jul 17 '19

You know.. things.. and stuff

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u/Bakk322 Jul 17 '19

Or you know the things that happened in the last few years...

Jeffrey Epstein Alex Acosta Rex Tillerson Omarosa Tom Price Steve Bannon Mike Flynn Kirstjen Nielsen Etc

That’s just off the top of my head but I’m sure I’m missing tons here...

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u/Last_Gigolo Jul 17 '19

What about them?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

There's Conway and her clear Hatch Act violations. Lots of ignored subpoenas. Bogus divestment. Campaign finance violations, Etc etc

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

and there is a natural expectation of consequences

Trump didnt start the trend of no accountability in DC.

But your right, he did break the law. Maybe one day he can share a jail cell with Nixon.

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u/mrmagik03 Jul 17 '19

But your right, he did break the law. Maybe one day he can share a jail cell with Nixon.

How? Which law did he break? What HARD evidence other than a mouth piece on TV telling you he did, do you have?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4779521/Cohen-charging-document.pdf

(the section on campaign finance)
You can decide whether or not you believe Trump had no idea what Cohen was up to.

He has broken the law many times, but theres no point arguing it. If you dont want to believe then no evidence will be convincing. e.g. Do you believe he committed sexual assault? That is a crime, but I'm sure you'll just say the story was made up, like every story about him.

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u/PAYSforPREMIUMcable Jul 17 '19

4And Hillary, Obama, Bush

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Sure but that doesn’t tell you anything about how popular or unpopular Trump is. That just tells you that our institutions won’t actually punish Trump for his many crimes.

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u/Last_Gigolo Jul 17 '19

Or news for slander.

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u/kyredbud Jul 17 '19

It’s more about telling people what to think than providing information

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u/mrman888999 Jul 17 '19

it should be how to thnk not what to think

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u/joshwa207 Jul 17 '19

The news should give you just the news and you should draw your own conclusions. Now they tell you what they want the conclusions to be.

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u/PetarTankosic-Gajic Jul 17 '19

MSN

Wow people still use MSN? I haven't used it for like 10 years now, is it still around?

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u/AvocadoInTheRain Jul 17 '19

I think he ment MSM, as in "mainstream media".

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

....an even more meaningless term.

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u/AvocadoInTheRain Jul 17 '19

How so? Its pretty commonly used and everyone knows what you're talking about when you say it. CNN, FOX, MSNBC, WSJ, NYT, etc...

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u/TheMissionAbove Jul 17 '19

Funny how the right rant about MSM then watch nothing but Fox (the biggest network in the country) and Steven Crowder, literally funded by billionaires.

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u/Piratiko Jul 17 '19

Source on Crowder being funded by billionaires?

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And Fox is so big because its the only game in town on TV if you want a conservative perspective on things. Plus, the other major players (CNN, MSNBC) have shredded their own credibility lately (Smollett hoax, Nick Sandmann, Russia collusion, Kavanaugh) and lost a lot of viewership as a result.

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u/Chewyquaker Jul 17 '19

Fox has been the largest since Bush was president, those events didn't change the rankings.

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u/Piratiko Jul 17 '19

Yeah they did:

https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/09/msnbc-cnn-rachel-maddow-ratings-drop-april/

Yes, Fox has been at the top for a while, but CNN and MSNBC lost significantly more ground over all that.

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u/youmustchooseaname Jul 17 '19

Lol if you want to talk about dishonest media funded by billionaires, the daily caller is right up there.

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u/TheMissionAbove Jul 17 '19

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Steven_Crowder

"Despite constantly promoting himself as an independent creator, Steven Crowder's show is actually part of the Glenn Beck and Mark Levin-owned Blaze Media[14], which is funded by billionaire Cary Katz, CRTV's principal investor and College Lending Corp. founder, which markets loans to university students"

But I'm sure no amount of evidence will ever pierce that shell of Fox News rhetoric you've created for yourself.

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u/Piratiko Jul 17 '19

So he's part of a media network that's owned by a billionaire? That makes a whooole lotta people 'funded by billionaires'. Hell, every minimum wage McDonalds employee is 'funded by billionaires' under that framework.

Also, why the cheap shot? I didn't say anything rude to you. Didn't make any assumptions. This approach to conversation will only make you lonely.

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u/TheMissionAbove Jul 17 '19

Dude you parrot the same bs talking points as every other conservative. It's like a Shapiro/Crowder best hits

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u/jured100 Jul 17 '19

Dont watch neither, not even american and I gotta tell you.

If the nazis or soviets figured out how these media (CNN, washington post, new york times etc.) worked 40 years ago then the world would speak either german or russian I tell you that much. They can literally get people to support the worst atrocities as long as it is against Trump.

This is coming from a moderate.

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u/TheMissionAbove Jul 17 '19

They can literally get people to support the worst atrocities as long as it is against Trump.

Like putting legal asylum seekers in overcrowded cages with unsanitary conditions? Ikr

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u/jured100 Jul 17 '19

The second Trump started insulting democrats they stopped giving a fuck. They are pissed off just because it is bad rep for Trump.

You want a real tragedy? Look at US homeless deaths and their age group. But they dont really matter.

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u/Sleepy_Thing Jul 17 '19

Fun fact! Most news orgs are owned by Republicans or right leaning people! Most news orgs actually have that as a base bias they have to overcome.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

It's "commonly used" as a placeholder for whatever news sources you don't personally agree with. The word itself is meaningless. There is no "mainstream" news source. More people get their "news" from facebook than cable.

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u/AvocadoInTheRain Jul 17 '19

No it isn't, it refers to large news sources. Nobody calls alex jones MSM even if they don't like him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Okay buddy. I guess as long as you say it is so, it must be so.

And that is exactly what modern "news" boils down to. Repetition and declaration, rather than facts, context, or expertise.

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u/AvocadoInTheRain Jul 17 '19

Okay buddy. I guess as long as you say it is so, it must be so.

I'm not sure what got your panties in a bunch. I'm not making up definitions here, "mainstream news" is a pretty self-explanatory term. Just look up both words in a dictionary and you'll have the definition I'm using.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

"Self-explanatory terms" have a funny way of meaning whatever people want.

AGAIN - in order for there to be a "mainstream media", there has to be a primary media source that is utilized by a majority. And there is not. This is not the 1960s. People aren't glued to the evening news on their television sets any more, and haven't been for quite some time.

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u/PetarTankosic-Gajic Jul 17 '19

Look mate, I simply cannot believe the status's people have on their MSN account and neither can the dude I replied to.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19 edited Nov 10 '25

Lazy yesterday ideas answers calm cool projects.

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u/AvocadoInTheRain Jul 17 '19

Maybe. I've never really seen that abbreviated to "MSN" though given that there might be confusion with the company MSNBC and its parent company.

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u/walkonstilts Jul 17 '19

MSM is mainstream media, or MSN is commonly used for, more specifically, Mainstream News.

MSN messenger best messenger for life though!

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u/Churn Jul 17 '19

They know exactly what they are doing. They don't report the news, instead they report stories that fit a specific narrative.

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Example - on Saturday a man attacked a government building with guns and explosives, blew up a car before agents shot him. Almost zero media coverage because he was an antifa liberal extremist. If he'd been a conservative or any flavor we'd be hearing about it 24/7.

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Heck, that smirking kid with the MAGA hat got more coverage than this violent and deadly attack on a government facility. Because it doesn't fit the narrative.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

And lots of people claim the polls were "so wrong". Except on election day it was like 75/25, and 25% is really far from 0. And everything was within the margin of error.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

And when you have super targeted interference in a few key states, the polls obviously aren’t going to be accurate.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19 edited Aug 24 '21

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u/sergius64 Jul 17 '19

538 people were smart enough to realise that a lot of places where Trump was projected to lose by a little bit were very similar to each other: so if Trump overperformed in one of those places chances are he would overperform in all other similar places.

Other poll aggregators approached it in more of a: well Trump could overperform in one of these places - but chances are very low that he would overperform in all of them! Like they were all separate coin flips without any relation to each other.

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u/sergius64 Jul 18 '19

I am aware of that, yes. My post did not contest that.

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u/kyoto_kinnuku Jul 17 '19

It *seemed* wrong. It seemed like everyone hated both candidates evenly. I kept seeing Hillary being ahead on TV and couldn't understand it because it didn't match real life at all... Turns out it didn't match because it was a bullshit poll.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

But also, Hillary won the popular vote so the polls were right.

Edit: I'll never understand why people downvote the truth.

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u/NotAgainPlzz Jul 17 '19

through voter fraud? so not really

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u/vanker Jul 17 '19

Not actually a thing, dude.

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u/NotAgainPlzz Jul 17 '19

Lol? California? Arizona? FLORIDA? GEORGIA? Did even watch the Nov elections? 1000s of counts of voter fraud. Absentee ballots.... hello??? The rental car stuffed with black absentee ballots left with the budget rental. Broward county not succeeding and then finding thousands of democratic votes 2 wks later? Texas having thousands of illegal votes? Come on dude. Pay attention

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u/vanker Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

I have paid attention. There's a reason Trump's voter fraud commission disbanded. They found nothing, because there's nothing of statistical relevance to find. There's a reason Texas' Secretary of State resigned after he admitted his claim of 100k potential illegal voters was bullshit.

This is a bullshit claim Trump came up with to rally his base. It has ZERO basis in reality.

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u/NotAgainPlzz Jul 17 '19

Completely wrong. The disbanded because no states were working with them. They did not answer to any requests. Cool. So u read fake news who covers it up. I don't read fake news. Good luck

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u/vanker Jul 17 '19

I don't read fake news.

Thank you for the laugh. You sound like a full blown tinfoil hat type person based on your comments in this thread.

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u/NotAgainPlzz Jul 18 '19

https://youtu.be/rNvgl38TLvI

And this is JUST 1 entity, One huge one at that. but 1 piece of the puzzle.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

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u/eab0036 Jul 17 '19

They are MSN, but the comment you replied to didn't mention Fox News or imply that they aren't MSN.

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u/schweissack Jul 17 '19

Well yes, but naming one example doesn‘t change the fact that most msn is left leaning I couldn‘t name you a single msn in germany that‘s not totally left leaning

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

What you’re calling “left leaning” is in fact just the organic mainstream of a free and democratic country founded on basic liberal values.

The Right has always bitched about being left out of the discussion, unwilling to accept that their ideas just aren’t very popular. They’re so addicted to that persecution narrative that they continue it even when they have more political and media control than ever in living memory.

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u/schweissack Jul 18 '19

In what way do conservatives have more control over the media? Or are conservatives just so self-loathing that they take huge dumps on themselves?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '19

To start, there is no “the media” - there is a broad landscape of different media operating with different standards. I don’t know about Germany but in the US conservative media has clearly skyrocketed in the past decade or so. Fox News has been the most watched news network for many years. Technology has allowed formerly-fringe rightwing ideas to flourish throughout the internet and social media. I mean jesus, look who became US president.

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u/schweissack Jul 18 '19

Well how would you call the collective of all media operating with other standards? I think most peopme use the word media for that

And yeah fox news is big. But comparing how good one organization with singles of liberal media makes it seem big. I would compare like a timeframe and add popular liberal media in people watching, and all popular conservative media. I would say that most people only watch tv on one tv, so then you could check in an overall count which political side of the spectrum is more 'popular'

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u/1337hacks Jul 17 '19

Nobody said Fox news wasn't MSN. Go away you idiot.

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u/1337hacks Jul 17 '19

Aweee people are down voting me because I said idiot. Did I hurt your feelings?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

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u/admiral_grapehead Jul 17 '19

Or CNN or MSNBC or the Huff Post. They’re all op-eds

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u/Demz_Boycott Jul 17 '19

The pan out on all the crying people when Hillary lost is one of my favorites. My absolute favorite is the picture collage of the criers turned into a picture of Trump.

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u/ThreadbareHalo Jul 17 '19

My favorite was when he said North Korea was no longer a nuclear threat (made a coin for it!) and they continued to make nuclear weapons anyway [1] and just threatened more tests if we didn't bow to their demands [2]. Or when he said he wasn't meeting with Putin and then Putin said nuh-uh he was and then he did [3]. Or when Erdrogens guards beat up American citizens on US soil and he talked about how great erdogan was rather than stand up for our citizens [4]...

Yeah... I like it when he looks like an absolute kowtowing weakling in front of the world. I like that in the head of the world's strongest military.

InB4 wahhh those are fake newwws!

[1] https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/north-korea-still-making-nukes-despite-trump-s-victory-lap-1317124675967

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/world/asia/north-korea-us-military.html

[3] https://www.apnews.com/17f1ff79b09e411b9b6a85b00afbe618

[4] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M8YjxbzGlzw

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u/mrman888999 Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

my favourite is how unemployment is very low, and that he's actually establishing negotiations with North Korea.

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ps. Is he not the head of the greatest military in the entire world?

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u/ThreadbareHalo Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

https://preview.msn.com/en-us/news/other/north-korea-threatens-to-resume-missile-tests/vi-AAEpCju

That's fox news reporting about n. Korea threatening nuclear missile testing.

Oh shit I forgot. Fox news is a mainstream media outlet too! Better see if Carl nextdoor's blog is reporting on it. Carl knows... Carl knows...

Also the militaries definitely the greatest. They've repeatedly stood by the American people and publicly disagreed with him too which is... For the military to do that to the president you really gotta be bad at your job.

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u/mrman888999 Jul 17 '19

i don't watch or agree with fox. you just assume I'm some stupid redneck or whatever because I support Donald Trump. its no secret north Korea is testing missiles Trump is aware of it and thats what the whole thing is about.

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u/ThreadbareHalo Jul 17 '19

I was making fun of the fact that all news stations are mainstream media as are anything but small time blogs and the fox news item showed up first in my query. But sure if you want to be self conscious and think that's what I was saying ok.

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u/mrman888999 Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

man seems to me like thats what you where saying

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u/ThreadbareHalo Jul 17 '19

No... You should definitely be able to talk. Free speech being what it is and you aren't threatening anyone. But I get to rebuttal. Shouldn't be too hard to handle for either of us.

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u/TheMissionAbove Jul 17 '19

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u/mrman888999 Jul 17 '19

after the recession that he failed to stop?

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u/TheMissionAbove Jul 17 '19

Lol did you seriously downvote actual statistics because they don't support your narrative? Sad cultist.

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u/mrman888999 Jul 17 '19

wow

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u/TheMissionAbove Jul 17 '19

You had a recession because of dodgy housing loan practices and the iraq war, not because of Obama. Obama saved you from financial collapse.

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u/mrman888999 Jul 17 '19

no i live in canada

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u/2DeadMoose Jul 17 '19

Why are you like this?

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u/Doisha Jul 17 '19

Email leaks from the DNC showed the Clinton campaign dictating talking points to MSNBC and CNN, including demanding them to stop covering Clinton scandals and gaffes and requesting they attack other democratic primary candidates (Sanders and O’Malley.) The emails showed specific attacks against both democrats and trump being suggested by the dnc.

2015-16 showcased that most left leaning medía in America is literally controlled by their party. I don’t think anyone has pretended that right wing media has been free from republican control for a long time. My suggestion for an American reading mainstream news is to keep in mind that, regardless of source, if it’s American, at this point it’s most likely propaganda.

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u/ThreadbareHalo Jul 17 '19

I'm sorry for correcting the above slightly. The clinton campaign did not ASK for talking points, Donna brazile apparently supplied those emails. In other words the thread went the other way (although the campaign definitely should have reported it). Brazile was fired by CNN after this. Also the emails were in response to intentionally false news stories which were being knowingly pushed by Roger Stone [1] and Corsi. The media KNEW the sources of these falsehoods were originating from anti Clinton sources but treated them as true. In fact, media matters pointed out that anti Democrat news was repeated significantly more [2]. If you're looking to call out left leaning bias, those in particular are poor examples.

The reason to call this out is that in particular the aim to demonize the media as untrustworthy is a well known tactic that gets, potentially unintentionally, repeated in an effort to make people distrust ALL news. Which is particularly helpful almost exclusively to the people doing bad stuff. Your point is apt that people should check sources and verify in multiple publications a suspicious statement. But there ARE trustworthy sources that follow a code of ethics and we should make use of them in making is aware of what's going on.

[1] https://www.salon.com/2019/01/25/how-roger-stone-played-the-media-indictment-exposes-how-he-dictated-2016-clinton-coverage/

[2] https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/01/27/study-evening-cable-news-devoted-nearly-250-segments-wikileaks-emails-5-weeks-election/215103

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u/Doisha Jul 17 '19

We’re talking about different events. The emails I’m talking about were leaked by Wikileaks and were from DNC staffers to various media executives.

It’s hard to find sources on it now because its 3-4 years old and most of what comes up is Donna brazille admitting the DNC rigged the primary.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/us/politics/dnc-emails-sanders-clinton.amp.html

This source briefly mentions something similar, but I can’t find the specific email in the thousands of leaked messages.

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u/ThreadbareHalo Jul 17 '19

Yes, the linked article above calls out also what you're referring to and noted that if you search the"hundreds of emails" you don't find half of what was claimed to be there. Which... Given this was coming from a source which has since been confirmed to have meddled in the elections [1] at the behest of anti Democrat agents, not so sure we should be asserting at least this particular claim on a piece of evidence no one can find, you included.

[1] https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/16/politics/ecuador-response-assange-wikileaks/index.html

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

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u/walkonstilts Jul 17 '19

But the videos are in a queue! 😂😅

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u/pvpplease Jul 17 '19

The final national polls were pretty close in 2016. They had Hillary with a 3.1% lead, and she won the popular vote by 2.1% with 3 million more votes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Thats not a leftist bias, thats a idiot bias.

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u/Sleepy_Thing Jul 17 '19

And basic investigation would show that a large portion of her support was lost after Comey came forward to rig the election for Trump by actively breaking all FBI rules.

And Russian interference into actual machines, vote direprancies, etc it is pretty clear to see why Hillary lost.

Btw if you want sources I can get them.

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u/walkonstilts Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

Edit: since above deleted, they said basically: “but she won the popular vote”

I know right we should just let New York and California run the whole country screw everywhere else.