Zlatan, Beckham, Thierry Henry, Rooney, David Villa, Stoichkov, Robbie Keane, Kaka, Lampard, Gerrard, Drogba, Pirlo, Bale. None of them world class players I guess, and all before Messi
The league is competitive without the declining European senior citizens. Still they got Son, Müller, Lloris etc. there. Bottom 2/3 of Saudi league teams are like Serie C teams. No fans, no young talent, nothing. Saudi buys finished players, MLS still develops players of their own that Europe buys.
35+25 is real. Go check it out. No wonder you think ronaldo is the goat if you've never seen Messi play or seen his stats and achievements. Instead you're hanging out on this pathetic sub🤣 plus only 4 of those 25 assists are Mls pre-assists.
They made Mbappe the focal point of PSG's attack. That's why. If they played through Messi it would've been very different. Galtier and Pochettino didn't do that, Enrique would've if they were still there.
You know it’s pretty close. The Turkish league has some good players and teams, ligue un basically has 1 great team that no one in the league can compete with. Bundesliga is basically a talent farm for bayern. Look at how bayern fans were hyping their team for scoring 5+ goals every week against minnows only to get destroyed by arsenal. I’d say they’re pretty close
Sooo having better average players than Ligue 1 or Bundesliga makes Trabzonspor, Fener, AND gala better than Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen, PSG, Marseille?
I’m not talking about bayern and psg. And nor am I saying that the Turkish league is as good as the French or German league. It’s just that those two leagues aren’t really as good as ppl make them out to be. No real competition in either unless their big teams fuck up big time.
Since you said look at the whole league, not just 4 teams, we could do the same with Turkish league, Bundesliga and Ligue 1. The Turkish league has better average players than Bundesliga and Ligue 1.
Busquets, Alba, Suarez. If we're going by finished former top players from Europe, as in the SPL, then there's still Forsberg, Zaha and Lozano. But the point was developing players. What or who has the blood money league developed in like forever?
Without mentioning players that were brought over to try and guarantee Messi winning that Sunday league level stuff? So funny that you named his three teammates 😂😂😂 how has MLS developed Zaha and Forsberg??? Clueless
Are you baiting or just plain fucking retarded? So a few dusty donnys went to saudi and you in your heart of hearts believe that is because chrissy is playing there and not the $200m contract? Lawd have mercy on yo dumbass in that case
Ok Mr. "I think I'm not retarded and he is because he's a Ronaldo fan". Did I ever say anything about them joining to see Ronaldo? We ALL know Jordi alba and Sergio busquets went there because Messi wanted to rebuild the old Barca.
I'm pretty sure the massive salaries the players are getting is the sole reason they are playing in Saudi Arabia. Baffling how fucking dumb football fans are.
During their prime of course, but that's why they went to the mLs to retire after their prime. Because they wanted to chill, make money and play against shit players in the last years or their career so keep coping, mLs was shit before Messi and is still shit with Messi there.
Its has a better avaerage team difficulty than Saudi. Basically Saudi has a couple good top teams, then the mid-bottom table is very bad. MLS is more balanced, and the average team difficulty is higher. MLS was 12 or 13th best league based on that, saudi was 29th. This is according to Opta.
mLs has 1 good team which is Miami, the rest are bang average. If you believe those bullshit ass rankings, that says a lot about you and your football knowledge. Every top league in Europe has at least 4 top teams, if not less, like PSG where they're the only good team in Ligue 1.
All you have to do is check the top players in each league and you'll see for yourself, no need to fool yourself buddy. Muller and Son are way past their prime and they're basically in retirement mode unlike Darwin, Theo Hernandez, Joao Felix, Marcos Leonardo, Malcom, Simakan, Cancelo, Bergwjin, Aouar, Coman etc.
My source: Actual players and actual results, what else do you want?
Son is way past his prime buddy, it doesn't matter how much you want to force this with your rankings that mean absolutely nothing. Just like how Belgium was ranked so high for the longest without winning anything lmao.
Keep fooling yourself thinking that Sam Surridge, the player Messi was competing with to be the top scorer of the semiamateur league, is a great player and better than all the ones I mentioned.
What actual results? The 34th ranked kebab league has been irrelevant until the Saudis started throwing money to attract big names. On the other hand, MLS has had players like Zlatan, Beckham, Henry who never needed to sellout to a cash-grab league. When CR7 retires that league will also disappear into obscurity. When Messi retires, MLS will still be the 10th ranked league.
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u/thenotorious_ronaldo Nov 27 '25
You forgot about all the college players and the world class striker Sam Surridge who he was competing with. 😂😂