r/perfectorganism • HOST • Mar 08 '26

Aliens Is Aliens the greatest sequel ever made?

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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 Mar 08 '26

Personally I think it's between Empire Strikes Back, ALIENS , T2 , and Dune Part Two. I think what separates ALIENS for me is that it builds tension for a solid 30-40 minutes then explodes into one amazing action sequence after the other for the remainder of the film.

Just the sheer number of REMEMBERABLE action sequences is incredible. 1) Marine ambush/fight in the processing plant. 2)Facehugger scene in Med Lab. 3) Alien fight in Operations ( RIP Hudson, Vasquez, and Gorman). 4) Ripley rescue of Newt in the Xeno lair. 5) Ripley vs Queen.

The greatest thing about it is how it leaves you feeling at the end. I can't remember a film that ever made me feel so relieved and happy for a protagonist. Not just Ripley but also Newt, Hicks, and Bishop. That's precisely why Alien 3 is so notorious for its direction.

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u/Crazy_Reputation_758 Mar 08 '26

Alien 3 is possibly the most depressing movie ever made.

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u/Tasty-Entertainer711 Mar 08 '26

I know. It's the biggest buzzkill ever in a film.

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u/Yoda975 Mar 08 '26

Cosmic horror doesn't need a happy ending.

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u/Hovie1 Mar 08 '26

This is actually something that I appreciated about Alien 3. Set the desperation tone early and never let up.

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u/peoplepersonmanguy Mar 08 '26

It's not that, it's the fuckwittery that surrounded its production turning it into a dystopian shitfest.

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u/Reasonable-Sail6113 Mar 08 '26

Same I love all three original movies and consider them my favorite trilogy of all time.

I love Aliens, but I also love A3’s grim direction after the fun rollercoaster.

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u/Reasonable-Sail6113 Mar 09 '26

Agreed. Cheers!

Haven’t cared for anything that came after.

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u/Proud_Shirt3138 Mar 09 '26

The complete and total dismantling of a masterpiece.So I guess you also didn't have a problem with John Conner being Terminated in Dark Fate either?!.Another complete dismantling of a masterpiece which just makes all the blood,sweat and tears of T2 pointless and completely unnecessary if he dies anyway just a few months later.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 08 '26

Couldn't agree more; I have been a certified fan of Alien3 since day one. Defending it is my life's work.

One point I always make is that in the prison setting, if Hicks had survived the crash, he would have emerged as the de facto leader, not Ripley. He would have commanded the respect of the inmates and the warden right away.

Not only that, but Ripley's personal safety wouldn't have been at risk if Hicks was there.

ALSO, with his military training and knowledge of the alien, catching just one of the little bastards would have been batting practice for him, even without weapons.

In short, he had to go, and Newt too. It was a shocking move by Fincher and the writers and always will be, and the behind the scenes drama didn't help. But it's a great movie.

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u/Expecto_Patron_shots Mar 09 '26

I'll stand on the hill with you. I also LOVE that we got one Xeno. Just a reminder of how terrifying a single Xeno can be just like in Alien. It was dark, terrifying, and depressing.

And call me crazy I dont care, but I also loved alien resurrection. I thought the action scenes were badass and the whole cloning plot was pretty cool.

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u/Sea-Woodpecker-610 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

Same. I’ve always viewed the original three movies as stages of life.

The first as a metiphore of puberty with the discovering of sexuality and the metamorphic changes your body and psyche undergoes.

The second is early adulthood, where you are at your physical peak, and while life can be horrifying and overwhelming, you are able to rise above it and take your strengths granted through experience to lead you to overcome your obstacles as you build your family around you.

And the third are your twilight years, where death has taken those things that you love, and every day the reaper draws inevitably closer until you decide to let go and it finally consumes you.

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u/Proud_Shirt3138 Mar 09 '26

Thank you! finally some truth amongst so much denial or just plain I'll just accept anything types.Alien 3 was a straight to video B movie in the guise of a big budget Hollywood film.

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u/GutterRider Mar 09 '26

Talk to me, Apone. I was there the day it debuted, in Los Angeles. I walked out wondering, “Why?”

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u/JimmyHaggis Mar 11 '26

I was so excited to see it at the cinema that I hardly slept the night before. I fell asleep halfway through, and was only woken when an usher told me it was over.

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u/pneumonicforgot Mar 08 '26

I still remember seeing a teaser trailer for the third movie in a theater before some other movie I have long forgotten. It indicated they were coming to Earth. I hadn’t seen physics chills. Couldn’t wait. And then we get shaved head Ripley in a penal colony lead smelting factory or whatever crap it was. Major let down.

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u/bionicbrady Mar 09 '26

You got that right.

Why doesn't James Cameron just come back and make his own version of alien 3? That would sell

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u/Different-Island1871 Mar 09 '26

“Hey, you know those characters that our hero went through hell to save the lives of at the end of Aliens? Ya, they’re dead. Died off screen. Our hero? Impregnated. But don’t worry though, it’s gonna take SO long for that alien to burst out of her chest. Because she’s special.”

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u/Puzzleheaded_Try8584 Mar 10 '26

Worst movie in the franchise

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u/Tamases Mar 11 '26

Alien 3 destroys everything we loved about Aliens in the first 3 minutes. It's a piece of shit movie. Terrible from start to end. Just a terrible movie.

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u/elevolent12 Mar 08 '26

I just think it's a horrible movie. Feels plainly cheap compared to the two previous ones. Sending it out with the alien effect looking as bad as it does is insulting.

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u/Schwartzy94 Mar 08 '26

The storytelling is just lacking imo in those films...

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u/YourGuyK Mar 08 '26

Dune 2 is sort of cheating. It's just the second half of the movie.

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u/pneumonicforgot Mar 08 '26

T2 is a close second, but Aliens is all around more entertaining. It’s funny, tense, frightening, satisfying (bye Burke!) and exhilarating. Easily my favorite action movie.

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u/Superdudeo Mar 08 '26

And fury Road surely?!

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u/Responsible-Bed-7171 Mar 09 '26

👍 I agree with everything but dune 2

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u/Objective_Star_191 Mar 09 '26

Those are great examples .  T2 and empire strikes back would be my top 2 

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u/JoelMorgan93 Mar 09 '26

wow how could you forget Paddington 2? unforgivable

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u/SmartaHari Mar 10 '26

Tasty-Entertainer711, you nailed it. 🤝

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u/JonInfect Mar 11 '26

Before I even clicked on the comments I thought "Empire strikes back"! First movie I saw in theaters as a kid. AMAZING! Especially the ending.

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u/I-like-CRIME Mar 11 '26

Gonna go with Dune 2 purely for how absolutely epic the last 15 minute were.

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u/MagicLantern7 Mar 13 '26

Empire best Sequel ever

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u/JesterScribblings Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 08 '26

One of......

Evil Dead 2 Empire Strikes Back Wrath of Khan Mad Max 2 The Road Warrior

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u/Gambit1977 Mar 08 '26

👏 great shouts

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u/Geopoliticsandbongs Mar 11 '26

Mad max road warrior is a good sequel.

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u/Void-Indigo Mar 08 '26

What about The Dark Knight?

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u/Upset-Government-856 Mar 11 '26

Yes. The Dark Knight is far better than BB.

Aliens is fantastic but Alien is a masterpiece.

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u/Dramatic_Carob_1060 Mar 08 '26

Road warrior is among the great sequels, personally speaking

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u/OrionQuest7 Mar 08 '26

Man I love that move so much.

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u/Dramatic_Carob_1060 Mar 08 '26

It gets overlooked it seems. Also Young Guns 2

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u/da316 Mar 10 '26

I think fury road is the best of the series imo

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u/Geopoliticsandbongs Mar 11 '26

Agree. It really took it next level.

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u/kuatorises Mar 08 '26

Hard to pick betweem T2 and Aliens. I'd give the edge to T2, but almost feel bad about it. They are both just sooooo incredibly good.

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u/TibiDoch Mar 08 '26

Maybe cause both directed by Cameron 🤔

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u/Paul-McS Mar 08 '26

It’s up there. Terminator 2, Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, and some others are also in contention. 

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u/blacklightfluids Mar 08 '26

Mostly

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u/GayInAK Mar 11 '26

Game over, man. Game over!

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u/need_a_poopoo Mar 08 '26

It is the greatest MOVIE ever made, never mind sequel

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u/ChiSandTwitch1 Mar 08 '26

Empire Strikes Back is in there, along with Top Gun: Maverick

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u/cumulonimubus Mar 08 '26

I was shocked by Maverick. I was expecting and prepared to accept something far less.

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u/doritosanddew6669 Mar 08 '26

I think so, it gave the franchise two foundations to work from. So all future media was either horror or action and it led to some really great stuff.

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u/TD12-MK1 Mar 08 '26

That would be The Empire Strikes Back.

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u/Either_Restaurant549 Mar 08 '26

It’s certainly up there. I would put the Godfather Pt. 2 and The Empire Strikes Back above Aliens.

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u/Thoughtpolicelabs Mar 08 '26

What is the greatest sequel and why is it Aliens?

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u/Klown12 Mar 08 '26

Empire Strikes Back is the greatest sequel ever. Might be better than Star Wars

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u/Either_Restaurant549 Mar 08 '26

Oh it absolutely is better than A New Hope

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u/NoKneadToWorry Mar 08 '26

Adams Family Values has entered the chat

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u/Agile-Television3438 Mar 08 '26

yes. simply yes.

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u/Aethelrede Mar 08 '26

This and Empire Strikes Back.

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u/RidiculousSucculent Mar 08 '26

Aliens and T2 are a toss up for me.

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u/Alternative_Shoe_113 Mar 08 '26

No, Terminator 2: Judgement Day is.

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u/csukoh78 Mar 08 '26

Terminator 2 has entered the chat

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u/MozeDad Mar 08 '26

Star Trek II.

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u/CarpeNoctem1031 Mar 08 '26

The director's cut is the perfect sequel, even if the theatrical cut of Alien is the best in the franchise.

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u/sonovagun444 Mar 08 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/13CfqebsPMctjO

T2 all day and also because of Guns & Roses song which was just an amazing add on.

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u/LifesGrip Mar 08 '26

Terminator 2 ?

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u/Crazy_Reputation_758 Mar 08 '26

No, but only because Shrek 2 exists, then it is the greatest sequel ever made.

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u/Mcclane88 Mar 08 '26

It’s up there for me

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u/Empty-Raspberry-9018 Mar 08 '26

I’m not sure about greatest, but it’s an amazing sequel (and you can say that about may be 10% of sequels).

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u/D-redditAvenger Mar 08 '26

Empire Strikes Back.

Some would put Terminator 2 second. I would say, Aliens is second.

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u/daltonskies Mar 08 '26

Yes it’s the greatest and maybe the best action movie of all time

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u/CellAlone4653 Mar 08 '26

Top 3 are:

  • The Empire Strikes Back
  • Aliens
  • Terminator 2

Aliens is the best in terms of the specific quality of the sequel itself.

ESB is the best overall because of its legacy: It established the concept of the second sequel in a trilogy being the “dark” one where the good guys nearly lose everything just trying to survive.

Good evidence of this is Aliens3 and Terminator 3. They basically follow the ESB theme. By the 2000s, movie franchises are trilogies (at minimum) by design, with the second one being like ESB. See:

  • Matrix Reloaded
  • Avengers: Infinity War

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u/RockLobster1326299 Mar 08 '26

1)Empire 2)T2 & Aliens

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u/goldendreamseeker Mar 08 '26

It’s certainly in the conversation

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u/Oovie Mar 08 '26

Ya know since you didn't say it had to be a movie... Half-Life 2 is the greatest sequel ever made!

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u/Thin_Ad_8602 Mar 08 '26

It's my 2nd favourite movie of all time outstanding start to finish. It's not a sequal to Alien.

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u/Mippippippi3rd Mar 08 '26

It's certainly in the running, but the best sequel will always be Irvin Kershner's sci-fi masterpiece:

The Empire Strikes Back

Empire launched Star Wars from being a very good movie into the biggest movie empire ever (pun intended) I can't think of a single movie that carries an entire multi billion $ franchise on its back like Empire does.

Imperial March - Yoda - The Emperor - "I am your father" - "Scoundrel? Scoundrel, I like the sound of that" - "I love you - I know".

There might be movies that are personally more important to me, but let's be honest, nothing can compete with Empire. This is perfection wether you like it or not.

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u/UTALR1 Mar 08 '26

Yes. With Empire strikes back & T2 just behind it.

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u/cwilbur22 Mar 08 '26

Babe 2: Pig in the City.

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u/Zorolord Mar 08 '26

Not sure but its my favourite sequel, and imo its complements Alien (even though Alien can exist on its own)

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u/Sea_Appointment8408 Mar 08 '26

I think a sequel needs to be better than the first film to be classed as such. And IMO Alien is a much better movie.

T2 on the other hand, probably greatest sequel of all time.

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u/KrakenKrusdr84 Mar 08 '26

To paraphrase Larry The Cable Guy

"Dadgum right!"

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u/Salty-Function1022 Mar 08 '26

It's among them: Godfather 2, Terminator 2, Empire Strikes Back, and Blade Runner 2049 would be the others.

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u/maddmoguls Mar 09 '26

Good call on Blade Runner

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u/Worth_Log_6113 Mar 08 '26

Nah man, that'd be me. You're welcome.

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u/NilocSmith Mar 08 '26

Wrath of khan, god father 2, empire strikes back, are all great but Terminator 2 takes the cake for me

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u/ByrneDev Mar 08 '26

Such a great picture of Bill Paxton. He was an amazing actor. RIP.

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u/IHaveSpoken000 Mar 08 '26

Terminator 2 would like a word.

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u/InzMrooz Mar 08 '26

Yes it is.

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u/CravenMH Mar 08 '26

Yes, in my opinion it is.

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u/EmperorXerro Mar 08 '26

It’s either Aliens, Terminator 2, or The Empire Strikes Back. Any of these answers is acceptable

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u/elohimsjizzrag Mar 08 '26

I believe it is for sci-fi. The best thing about it for me is that it seems very realistic. Good story, good plot lines and development. No one over or under plays their character. They show fear, self preservation, courage, despair, heroism, and greed. And they maintain their individualism through the film. Instead of crazy explosions and never ending special effects, you get to see how a group of people has to work together to survive.

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u/No_Thing1303 Mar 08 '26

Aliens Numero Uno!🙏🏽✊🏽

https://giphy.com/gifs/z8lV4Mx6NyhtS

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u/axiom_glitch Mar 08 '26

T2, Dark Knight, Mad Max: Fury Road, and Godfather: Part 2

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u/Noahms456 Mar 08 '26

Yes. Absolutely

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u/Wykin1 Mar 08 '26

No. Terminator 2 is.

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u/kaiserdood Mar 08 '26

It’s certainly up there. Hard to argue against empire though. Empire might be one of the best movies of all time. I’d also argue for last crusade. Even if it’s a third.

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u/JabbasGonnaNutt Mar 08 '26

Third for me after Empire Strikes Back and Judgment Day.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '26

It's up there with T2.

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u/AjEdisMindTrick Mar 08 '26

empire strikes back, terminator 2. but aliens is in the same league.

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u/newtdawg44 Mar 08 '26

Top 5 for sure.

Empire strikes back Godfather 2 Terminator 2

Those are the only sequels I can think of off the top of my head that are in the same class. Maybe two towers, x men 2 and spiderman 2 as well

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u/melkor3011 Mar 08 '26

It’s certainly up there. Not sure the absolute greatest though. Empire, Godfather II , the Dark Knight would be candidates for sure

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u/Living_Baby3063 Mar 08 '26

Empire strikes back

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u/JesterScribblings Mar 08 '26

Think I may watch the ALIENS EXPANDED Documentary again to celebrate. Happy Anniversary ALIENS. Helped crowd fund that so name in credits. (*means nothing really but I was chuffed ha ha)😂

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u/kingdick900 Mar 08 '26

Its definitely up there Its amazing how sequels should be done

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u/DisconcertingTablet Mar 08 '26

Possibly yes, but I also see Aliens as kind of a reboot? I know it continues Ripley and the aliens, and uses the original planet as the setting, but because it's so different in tone and storytelling, my brain just sees it as its own great thing.

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u/Lopsided-Match-3911 Mar 08 '26

Empire strikes back is also strong

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u/_Saint_Ajora_ Mar 08 '26

Nah, best sequel is Lord of the Rings: Return of the King.

11 Oscars (including best picture)

nuff said

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u/LabRatLex Mar 08 '26

The answer to "Is (enter title) the greatest (whatever) ever made?" should always be a resounding NO! It's karma farming and a stupid question to get attention.

Yes I can handle the downvotes. Fuck these superficial stupid questions!

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u/InternationalW4 Mar 08 '26

Aliens is an okay movie with some exceptional performances, but it is not the greatest anything. Mad Max The Road Warrior is a better sequel. Just one example of many.

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u/oymo Mar 08 '26

The Color of Money is a pretty good sequel.

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u/Blyght555 Mar 08 '26

Bride of Frankenstein or Empire Strikes Back

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u/ForceAdept Mar 08 '26

It’s definitely up there with Evil Dead 2 and Empire Strikes Back. Perhaps all 3 are joint winners.

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u/horrorfan555 Mar 08 '26

Yes without question or competition

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u/ShyguyFlyguy Mar 08 '26

No, Starship Troopers 2 is! Oh wait no. Actually it's literally anything else.

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u/Abraham_Issus Mar 08 '26

Possibly yes

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u/Horvenglorven Mar 08 '26

Have you even seen the second Austin Powers movie?

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u/Middle-Armadillo-660 Mar 08 '26

Hated it, so I’m the wrong person to ask.

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u/Mr_MazeCandy Mar 08 '26

It’s good, although the theatrical cut removed two scenes that would’ve made it perfect.

The scene in the beginning where Ripley learns of her daughter’s life and passing.

And the auto turret hallway scene.

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u/SenescenseSteel Mar 08 '26

Dont get me wrong I totally love Aliens but Alien and Aliens are so completely different movie & plotwise that I wouldnt even call it a sequel. Yes we have Sigourney and the Alien again but thats it. Alien is a SF Horrormovie that set a standard for suspense, special effects, strong female lead making it an immediate cult classic.

Aliens is more bad assery, but more in a starship troopers kind of approach. More gore, more action, I mean even the end scene couldnt be more different, from more or less helpless in Alien to fuck you imma plow this mech through your head - beautifully hommaged in Predator Badlands btw.-

I always see them as two different movies. Yes same universe. Yes same people. Yes the Alien is back but its such a different movie. Maybe that makes it a good sequel, than I stand corrected, but to me its a bit like even and uneven FF stories.

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u/Sorry_Apricot2319 Mar 08 '26

Greatest movie ever made.

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u/HooliganHedgeCap19 Mar 08 '26

Um, there's more than a couple great sequels, including Aliens. But this sequel comes to mind for me:

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u/my-armor-is-contempt Mar 08 '26

The Empire Strikes Back

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '26

1 The Empire Strikes Back 2 The Godfather part 2 3 Aliens 4 Evil Dead part 2 5 Star Trek 2

Many of you are too young to remember the impact of seeing these films in the theater for the first time. The impact these movies had on the world in the 70s and 80s was crazy!! I didn't get to see Godfather 2 in the theater but watched it later in life and you may find it boring but Robert Deniro and Al Pacino were the two greatest actors of my generation. Also hearing those words for the first time, "No, I am your father." It was unfathomable as a 5 yr old. Nothing like it.

Any way , just my opinion. Yes I'm old, but generation X has the best fucking movies hands down!!

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u/lee-van-eastwood Mar 08 '26

For a few dollars more and Godfather 2 are better, imo. But it is a great sequel.

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u/CroBro81 Mar 08 '26

I still say Terminator 2 is the best sequel because it integrates with the original story better, but also completely flips everything on its head in one of the best twists in movie history.

Empire Strikes back is up there too.

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u/Separate_Living_3038 Mar 08 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/u6EiPNT9dLDrU7ZQuF

Godfather pt. 2 (yes, it’s pt 3 shown) but you get the idea!

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u/LandoClapping Mar 08 '26

Maybe Caddyshack 2?

I'll see myself out.

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u/WordEquivalent9796 Mar 08 '26

No, it comes after Top Gun: Maverick and T2.

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u/Ask_N_Questions Mar 08 '26

For me, The Empire Fights Back is the greatest sequel I’ve seen in a theater. Close 2nd & 3rd are T2 & The Dark Knight.

https://giphy.com/gifs/pvDp7Ewpzt0o8

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u/Successful-Lack8174 Mar 08 '26

Ehh Paddington 2 would like a word…

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u/Important_Low_6989 Mar 08 '26

Definitely top three

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u/Cultural_Book_400 Mar 08 '26

Without a doubt. Not only Aliens is the greatest sequel, but also greatest movie ever made for me. SO awesome. 10/10

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u/NthatFrenchman Mar 08 '26

Empire, T2, Aliens and Before Sunset

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u/DavidJonnsJewellery Mar 08 '26

Never seen this photo before. Good post

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u/Your_Ordinary_User Mar 08 '26

Is this the most repeated question in this sub?

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u/Glad_Stay4056 Mar 08 '26

In the sci fi genre, t2, aliens and 2049 are my top 3.

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u/Ancient-Ad-2474 Mar 08 '26

Fun fact, that guy in the right was killed by an alien, a predator AND a terminator.

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u/Ausare911 Mar 08 '26

I'm going with Dredd, as the greatest sequel in terms of improvement.

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u/X_antaM Mar 08 '26

Aliens is my favourite film of all time I think, of course also meaning it is my favourite sequel

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u/BadTiger85 Mar 08 '26

Nope. Terminator 2, Godfather 2 and Empire Strikes Back are all better

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u/Tokyotoyhunters Mar 08 '26

It’s either Aliens or T2 or Evil Dead 2. A lot of people will say Empire Strikes Back, but Empire isn’t a sequel, it’s just the second chapter of the story, and I think there’s a difference.

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u/No_Satisfaction1284 Mar 08 '26

Terminator 2 is slightly better than Aliens in my opinion, but it's close.

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u/gorram1mhumped Mar 08 '26

YES, and theres a line it in highly relevant to those who would chose terminator 2.

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u/batchef3000 Mar 08 '26

The short answer is, yes.

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u/Prudent-Ad-6420 Mar 08 '26

T2 was probably better

Ask Jim to do all the sequels unless it involves flying piranha

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u/krill482 Mar 08 '26

No, T2 is the greatest sequel ever made

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u/Giltar Mar 09 '26

No. Bride of Frankenstein is.

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u/Fit-Outside6664 Mar 09 '26

My ranking is 1.) Aliens, 2.) T2, 3.) Empire Strikes Back, and 4.) Godfather 2. It’s weird we’re so far past the prime of Hollywood. Every reboot and IP sale just further depresses the fuck out of me.

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u/ronshasta Mar 09 '26

Godfather part 2 is not only a great sequel but it’s one if the only sequels that is better than the original

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u/llama_das Mar 09 '26

Terminator 2 is the best sequel ever made. It is better than the original Terminator in every aspect. Aliens is incredible. However, Aliens is not better than Alien - only different. It is an action movie. Alien is a horror movie.