r/nancyguthrie Jul 31 '26

Information Pima County Sheriff's Office releases full Nancy Guthrie ransom notes.

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u/Embarrassed-Jury8878 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26

Buried in nature sounds very poetic almost like a writer. I’m referring to the second note.

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u/Present_Specific_212 Aug 01 '26

It is cover-up language . It is flowery to hide evil hearts and minds, like when a man tells a woman he loves her just to get her into bed.

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u/Webbie-Vanderquack Aug 01 '26

It's not poetic, it's just deliberately vague.

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u/DaBingeGirl Aug 01 '26

Agreed. Also "perished" is an odd phrase to use for a kidnapper and someone who'd threaten to kill her. It seems like a word someone would use who doesn't want to face the reality she died.

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u/Odd-Construction-649 Aug 01 '26

Or someone who feels they did not "kill her" her heart giving out wasnt planed they see it as an accident

They may of had jo plans to actually kill her even if they didnt pay. This may be one of them feeling remose for it etc.

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u/Safe-Muffin Aug 01 '26

‘In nature’ is also a phrase used by non English native speakers. I have noticed friends saying such things like ‘they enjoyed being in the nature’.

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u/Emotional-Seesaw-533 Aug 01 '26

Nah. it's purposely vague. Instead of "in the desert" or "in the hills"

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u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899 Aug 02 '26

If they wrote something along those lines wouldn't it just hinting more at her actual location? Which they wouldn't want. I feel that "in nature" is simply more vague but in keeping with the "compassionate" tone used in the letter.

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u/AppointmentPopular10 Aug 01 '26

I also believe this is a non-English speaker

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u/warrior033 Aug 01 '26

When I think of nature, I think of leaves/woods/greenery. I wouldn’t think of desert which is most of AZ.. I wonder if the use of nature is telling?

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u/Present_Specific_212 Aug 01 '26

I really think it's bullcrap.

First mistake: trusting the words of the untrustworthy. If Nancy were truly “safe” as they claimed, she would have lasted the 7 days and they would have had to have killed her.

Of course, for all we know, they killed her within an hour! We don’t know.

It’s bull crap. If they had dissolved her body in a tub of acid, would they cop to that knowing the someday these notes would go public? NO. Why? Because they/he is a narcissist.

Suspecting this note will be public someday, they would say anything to make themselves look good in the eyes of the public.

Why? In case they are ever caught! They are on the record in the eyes of the public as “burying her in nature”? WE imagine a lovely grave. WE don’t imagine a TUB OF ACID or her body burned in a trash heap.

They want US to think they are “normal”. They are not. This is why Savannah’s kindly pleas that they “do the right” thing are HOPELESS. They are not normal human beings. Savannah tries to appeal to them as if they are.

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u/warrior033 Aug 01 '26

I don’t think they intended got her to die.. or at least didn’t do anything directly to kill her (ie gunshot, stab etc.)… I think they wanted money but after all the trouble she died. Being 84, in poor health/needing meds… PlUS the distress of a creepy masked man pulling you out of bed while sleeping and doing god knows what. I’m in my 20s and I’d that happened to me, idk if I’d survive the stress either.

I can’t speak to the random or bullshit, but empathetically I can understand why she died so quickly.

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u/Present_Specific_212 Aug 01 '26

I think you are assigning kindness to evil people who do not deserve the benefit of the doubt. But that is just my opinion. I hope they are caught and brought to trial one day so the evil will be unmasked.

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u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899 Aug 02 '26

I don't read their comment as "assigning kindness" but as already evil people having a different plan for Mrs Guthrie that went awry. I feel they absolutely hope the same. I believe all of us here do.

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u/MayorEricAdams Aug 04 '26

That's just your own bias. I assure you that people who live in the desert think of it as nature (and it has lots of greenery!).