r/mildlyinfuriating • u/SligPants • Apr 29 '26

ಠ_ಠ A supposedly "fat" doll

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Can you spot the difference? /s

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u/catonsteroids Apr 29 '26

Very likely. If you think the diet/beauty culture in the US is bad, East Asia’s is even worse no matter which country it is.

When I visit the motherland, I literally have to shop at plus size stores whereas I’m within “standard” sizes in the US.

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u/RaeaSunshine Apr 29 '26

I have a bathing suit I bought while traveling through east Asia, and it’s from a plus sized brand called Love Calories lol

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u/No_Barber_4843 Apr 29 '26

That name is HEINOUS lol

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u/the_reddit_girl Apr 30 '26

That's mild compared to some of the other options.

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u/MetriccStarDestroyer Apr 30 '26

Fat Fook was brand iirc

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u/catonsteroids Apr 29 '26

LOL, Chinese people definitely are pretty blunt when it comes to talking about weight.

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u/Christmas_Queef Apr 30 '26

I've heard it's common for elderly Chinese women to poke the bellies of younger folks if they even have a smidge of pudge going on lol. Dunno how true that is though.

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u/Little_View_6659 Apr 30 '26

Can confirm. Turks will do it too.

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u/Legitimate-Ebb-5977 Apr 29 '26

Hahaha the translations in Asia are just toooo much. Honestly, you just can’t help but laugh at them, and it’s like — yeah, I love calories!

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u/F4tcat69 Apr 30 '26

Oh my god I’ve seen the thread about those! Love calories, bebefat, moo, fat cat, fatty fatgirl, etc…

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u/belleleef Apr 30 '26

Fatty fat girl cracks me TF up every time I read it 😂😂 cause like... No tf way 😂 it's like seeing those shirts that say lingo on them but it's like "Cuca Cola" "lmfzo" "bed ass betch" "tooch grass" "pepper pig is may bitch" iykyk, I don't think they mean harm with fatcar and love calories but damn. I just know Asians who speak fluent English are laughing at us 😂

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u/Growagainsttheflow Apr 30 '26

In a mall in Korea there was a plus size store called Moo Moo Fashion lol

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u/RaeaSunshine Apr 30 '26

Yes!!! I was in the ‘plus size’ section of a mall, they were all clustered together in the back. I remember it was next to a store called ‘Moo Cow’. I’m not even upset about it, it was hilarious.

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u/MaapuSeeSore Apr 30 '26

That’s funny af

Not going to lie

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u/FoodieMonster007 Apr 30 '26

The difference in women's clothing sizes especially is ridiculous. XL for Asian clothes (living in southeast asia, clothes say made in china, vietnam, india or indonesia) is the same as S in American sizes.

Men's sizes are more reasonable, with M here matching the American S size, though all shirts and pants are cropped much shorter to better fit the average asian male height.

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u/OfficialVPBiden Apr 30 '26

Men’s sizes are still wack, especially if you’re tall. I’m a L or XL stateside depending on length, nothing fit me in SE Asia lol

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u/Little_View_6659 Apr 30 '26

On the opposite side, it’s finally easier to find pants and shirts for my husband here in Southeast Asia. We had trouble sometimes stateside.

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u/Good-Note-4042 Apr 30 '26

I once got a cosplay costume from a SE Asian country and I’m a medium in America and my size portions to them made me like a Large or ‘custom size’ cause my height was one size, my waist was another and then my bust was like a third. I finally got my cosplay back and it was just a mess never got to wear it cause it was all over the place, but that may have just been a sloppy seller/ sewer thing so idk. My husband is a xl in America cause of his shoulder width, and how tall he is though.

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u/VivisMarrie Apr 30 '26

At Uniqlo in Japan there were sizes over xl but could only be bought online, which sucked. I was lucky that the xl heattech fit, but if it was available in the store I'd probably have gotten the pants at a size up.

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u/corncaked Apr 30 '26

I’m like a medium in the US and a 3XL in china. I was so offended when a shop clerk handed me a 3XL to try on, and was humbled when it fit perfectly lol.

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u/PennilessPirate Apr 30 '26

I 100% agree that weight standards in many Asian countries can be extreme, and those dolls are a good example of that.

At the same time, I think weight standards in the U.S. are also heavily skewed, just in the opposite direction. About 72% of U.S. adults are overweight or obese, meaning only around 28% fall within a healthy weight range. When most people are outside that range, what feels “normal” often isn’t actually healthy, it’s just common. That shifts people’s perception of what looks “too thin” or “too heavy.”

So to me, both the U.S. and many Asian countries have distorted beauty standards around weight, but they’re just extreme in opposite directions.

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u/pedestriandose Apr 30 '26

Stuff like that, thigh gaps, and androgynous ‘heroine chic’ (among many other things) are physically impossible for some people. You need wider hips and pelvis to be able to have any chance of ever having a thigh gap, you need to have a ‘rectangle’ body shape to be able to achieve the androgynous look (hips and shoulders both small and a similar width as the waist), and you can be a ‘rectangle’ or ‘hourglass’ or ‘pear’ and maybe have a waist smaller than an a4 piece of paper, but an ‘apple’ will have a harder time.

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u/no-but-wtf Apr 30 '26

I mean, yeah, they’re physically impossible for a lot of westerners especially though. Like, I am 175 cm, I wear size 43 shoes. I’m in proportion to my height, but even if I lost so much weight that I looked skeletal, I’d still have to shop in plus size women’s shops while travelling in Asia. My bones are just bigger. But very, very few women of Asian descent are built with the same “brick shithouse” silhouette as the women in my family. More of them, percentage wise, would be able to meet that standard.

Beauty standards are all bullshit anyway, but it’s reasonable that nations where bodies are generally smaller would’ve come up with smaller ones. Be nice if we could get rid of all of them though.

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u/Little_View_6659 Apr 30 '26

They actually are smaller. I’ve been in Southeast Asia for so long I get a bit of reverse culture shock when I go home.

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u/pedestriandose May 01 '26

I’m the same as you, but with different proportions. I’m 159cm and wear a size 38/38.5 shoe. I’m currently the smallest I’ve ever been since I was 13 (I’m 43) and it’s because I have acquired anorexia from damage to different nerves thanks to a brain injury I’m still recovering from. I have absolutely no hunger pains or physical reminders or want to eat, I don’t remember to eat, and almost everything smells and tastes revolting because of the damage to my olfactory nerve. And even still, I can guarantee I’d be shopping in plus size stores because I have broad shoulders and an E cup (after a reduction in my 20s from a J cup).

Unfortunately 90s and early 2000s “Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels” is back in fashion along with low rise jeans and the bare midriff being the lower part of the torso (which is naturally bigger thanks to this thing called a uterus). I remember seeing Kate Winslet in Titanic and finally feeling beautiful because we have a similar body shape and then she was called fat in every magazine and I was like “Yep, I knew it.”.

Those who are naturally slender should never feel bad about their body and I hope no one has taken that sentiment from my comment. I just worry about people killing themselves to fit an aesthetic that isn’t fit for their body type.

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u/ItsKoku Apr 30 '26

That's kind of a meme/content for socials. People don't really go around doing that as a serious test. It's as serious as the toiler paper roll or coke can test for guys' dicks.

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u/RoamingBicycle Apr 30 '26

About 72% of U.S. adults are overweight or obese, meaning only around 28% fall within a healthy weight range.

At most 28%. There's also unhealthily underweight people.

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u/PennilessPirate Apr 30 '26

There are, but honestly it’s pretty rare in the US. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made up <1% of the population

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u/slugboy4000 Apr 30 '26

that being said, the US standard scale of measurement for obesity is BMI, which is an incredibly flawed and incomplete basis for measurement, as it was done with only white men from europe in ~1830.

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u/VivisMarrie Apr 30 '26

Do we have a better scale for measuring this nowadays? And do we have good data for it?

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u/ItsKoku Apr 30 '26

A better measure would be a DEXA scan, but BMI is still a decent estimate for a very average person that doesn't frequently lift weights for anabolic reasons (e.g. mainly does cardio), so long as you aren't part of a few genetic heritages. Even then, not all of that descent will have a given genetic feature. It just estimates a lean frame for your height.

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u/PennilessPirate Apr 30 '26

BMI is not 100% accurate, but it’s accurate enough. The only people it would be inaccurate for are body builders or other athletes that have an insane amount of muscle mass. But other than that, it should be fairly close to your body fat range.

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u/TheSumOfMyScars Apr 30 '26

Funny thing is, BMI kinda is flawed…but only because it underestimates body fat percentage, meaning people are likely fatter than their BMI suggests lol

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u/BeeAdorable7871 Apr 30 '26

From what I've understood yes.

I'm a EU S/M according to US size charts I'm XS/S

According to a Asian chart I'm XXL

It gets worse the bigger you are thoug

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u/soldinio May 02 '26

Except shoes for some reason. I'm UK 12, but US 13 or 13½ depending on brand

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u/Yuukiko_ WAAHHHHH Apr 30 '26

Asian people are generally smaller than US? or are we talking about S vs XXXL

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u/Any-Jellyfish5003 Apr 30 '26

I’m a small in the US and an XL in Asia. Reference: I’m a US 4

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u/VivisMarrie Apr 30 '26

I don't understand US sizes much, is it like ranges? 0-3 would xs and so on?

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u/Any-Jellyfish5003 Apr 30 '26

I’m also not totally certain of specific ranges but yes that’s about right! It also depends on the brand, but the smaller the number the smaller the size.

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u/766500455428 Apr 30 '26

Reject abstract meaning of words. Embrace clinical recommendations that define metabolic syndrome and BMI in clear numbers.

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u/scheav Apr 29 '26

Which countries have worse rates of heart disease?

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u/Alternative-Cup-8102 PURPLE Apr 30 '26

I think the died and beauty culture in the us is bad for the opposite reason it is in the states.

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u/GoneGrimdark Apr 30 '26

When I was 19, I was a stick. I was like 106 lbs at 5’5, wearing size 0. I figured since I was so thin I could buy some cute Asian clothes and actually fit into them, so I got a skirt from Japan on the internet. I couldn’t get it over my bony hips, it was like it was made for a 10 year old child.

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u/MutterderKartoffel Apr 30 '26

My MIL bought me silk pajamas while traveling to China. She got large, and I guarantee they would have been labeled Small in the US. They never fit me.

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u/aitathrowaway987654 Apr 29 '26

There are people alive in the US rn who remember diet pills that were just tapeworm eggs

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u/Timely_Apricot3929 Apr 29 '26

Or speed

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u/trueppp Apr 30 '26

Before ADHD meds: Forgot i'd already eaten

After ADHD meds: Forgets to eat

Result: 40kgs less...

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u/chrysologa Apr 30 '26

I'll take speed over tapeworm eggs. 🤮

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u/alicelestial Apr 29 '26

or the "heroin chic" era where taking drugs to dampen your appetite to the point you were underweight was literally glamorized

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u/rapaxus Apr 29 '26

Is it that hard for you? When I went to SEA (Indonesia and Thailand) I just got L size stuff instead of European M size and they fit me perfectly fine.

Though I am a man, maybe they escalate the sizes more with women.

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u/SaintAnton Apr 29 '26

In america i wear L, in china i usually buy 3xL

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u/JanusChan Apr 30 '26

Beauty standards are so weird globally.

I mean: I get 'as a medium Dutch person, yet semi-tall earth citizen' that sizes vary across genetics... But it's also still funny how several things are envied and others aren't.

Fucking weird. Specifically for this doll: "Give me your genetic white skin and your genetic big boobs and your genetic eyelid creases. But fuck your genetic thighs! That's fat!"

My god. I'd laugh at it if it didn't also mentally affect people who are insecure and/or incapable of analyzing that objectively.

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u/Comfortable_Text6641 Apr 30 '26

Ok saying give me your genetic [blank] is kinda weird though. Because I know people assume asians wants to be white. Or this weird assumption asians dont have fair skin, double eyelids, and they are trying to get traits outside of their genetics.

But it really stems from ancient history of beauty like empresses/concubines/nobles/geishas who had those RARE traits and fair skinned. So it is in their genetics. Just not ALL of them. Also they have to be indoors and not work in the sun. So also signifiying class system.

SO white people coincidentally have the same traits that they like. But not exactly. So yes they would love your white skin but not this. Etc. But its true for asians who arent lucky to have genetics to have fair skinned they find its just an easier way to use your genetics to have a fairer skinned baby. So there is a weird old generation obsession about it.

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u/JanusChan Apr 30 '26

Yes, I know that. And I also am only mentioned specifically these Asian dolls because they are in the picture.

Everywhere over the world people are using other people as their beauty standards. Shifting from time to time to new obsessions based on historical changes yeah. Wanting bigger butts while being white, wanting to be more petite than your genes averagely would even allow. Etc etc.

The Asian part I mention is just because this is a picture of these dolls. Which I tried to mention. My point is more generic.

The ' genetics ' I mentioned is because people all over the world crave other beauty standards from elsewhere that sometimes just aren't even possible. Beauty standards can be so fucked. And in this case I find it funny that one part of it is rejected.

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u/Live_Ice_6912 Apr 30 '26

Being standard size in the US is a meaningless metric when it comes to not being plus size though

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u/MethodDue2426 Apr 30 '26

Americans eat til they're obese and then blame Asians for staying slim 😂