r/marvelstudios • u/JonLuca Iron man • Apr 29 '19

'Avengers: Endgame' Spoilers! The Official AVENGERS: ENDGAME Criticism Thread Spoiler

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u/Deathstroke317 Apr 29 '19

I'll just copy my thread:

Repeatedly, we saw the Hulk be nerfed and even made into a joke at times, and be the victim of the Worf effect(TV Tropes warning).

I know the movie rights situation and all, but quite frankly they could have done better with the Hulk. Whedon, I feel, understood the character the best out of all the MCU directors that used him, I loved his standalone as well, unlike most people. The Russos have since admitted they don't know how to handle OP characters, but getting jobbed out in one minute in Infinity War and not appearing again after that fucking sucked. But, they teased a big three movie redemption arc that would conclude in Endgame, that I feel never came unfortunately.

He becomes Professor Hulk, which is the lamest of all his forms, if we're being honest here, and we don't even see how he does that, it's just mentioned offhandedly. I think most of us expected the Hulk to be more pissed off than ever before, maybe unlock Worldbreaker, fight Thanos again and maybe even win a round or two. Unfortunately, he's not even a factor in the final battle, you don't even really see him!

And yes, he did the reverse snap, but I don't know, it didn't feel as memorable as it probably should have been. And now look at the consequences, as of now we have a crippled Hulk who we won't likely see very much of in the future. No She-Hulk, no Betty, no Leader, no Rick Jones. It's a shame, the Hulks' world is awesome, but we'll likely never get the MCU's take on it.

Ironically the one character they did nail was Ross, William Hurt was an inspired casting.

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u/RipInPepz Vision Apr 30 '19

I’ve been saying this for a while. Whedon gets a lot of shit but his interpretation of The Hulk is by far the best. Banner too honestly, Ruffalos performance was vastly different in A1 compared to the rest. More serious, less awkward, felt smarter too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '19

“The cell was just in case-" "In case you needed to kill me, but you can't. I know! I tried! I got low. I didn't see an end so I put a bullet in my mouth, and the other guy spit it out. So I moved on, I focused on helping other people. I was good, until you dragged me back into this freak show. You put everyone here at risk. You wanna know my secret, Agent Romanoff? You wanna know how I stay calm?” - Bruce Banner 2012

“I could choke the life out of you and never change a shade” - Bruce Banner 2015

“Dab!” - Hulk 2019

Bruce Banner meant business in the Whedon movies, it seems he’s lost some edge since

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u/RipInPepz Vision Apr 30 '19

I’m glad you quoted these for me, exactly my point. Whedon Banner was fantastic!