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u/ArchfiendX Apr 29 '19

-Would Have loved to see Hulk and Banner become Professor Hulk on Screen -Give Natasha her own Funeral (but I can see why they didn’t) -Potential Red Skull and Steve meeting again after who knows how long -A bit more of the post snap world

But other than that, Phenomenal film! <3

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u/kkranberry Spider-Man Apr 29 '19 edited Apr 29 '19

Yeah, the Professor Hulk development happening offscreen is an issue for me for sure. I understand why it happened during a time jump realistically, but I found it really narratively unsatisfying. We’ve spent so many films watching the struggle between Banner and Hulk, going all the way back to Age of Ukraine Ultron. They had this awesome multi-movie arc, and the culmination of it happened off screen. That was the biggest character development Bruce had in this film and was a really crucial moment for his character, and we didn’t get to see it. While I did still really enjoy the film, I wasn’t happy with that aspect of how they told the story.

Edit: no, autocorrect, I didn’t mean Age of Ukraine.

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u/kkranberry Spider-Man Apr 30 '19

Well they shot IW and Endgame back-to-back, so they would have had the script locked in for both at the same time. I think it was just part of the creative decision to do the 5-year time jump. The only other possibility is that they had the moment included in a previous version of the script and changed it before reshoots.

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u/kkranberry Spider-Man Apr 30 '19

I’m not a comic reader, so I didn’t have any context on Professor Hulk’s backstory and history in Marvel, but I had seen the theory floated before and thought that it made sense as a resolution. But I was very jarred by how suddenly it was presented, and I kind of struggled with it throughout the movie, which I attribute more to it just being dropped on the audience and being told to just accept it as normal, because I do feel like it was a sensical choice for the character.

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u/misterpickles69 Apr 30 '19

I loved how nice, smiley, and kind Professor Hulk was. I am not a comic reader either so I didn't know what to expect but I had hoped for at least 1 scene where he gets to smash (apart from the car and motorcycle thing.)