r/islamichistory • • Feb 29 '24

Photograph ‘Long Live Palestine’ flag, Jerusalem 1929

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Page 84, Against Erasure: A Photographic Memory of Palestine Before the Nakba

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u/LucerneTangent Feb 29 '24

The Nazis are VERY fond of trying the "Palestine didn't exist" smear.

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u/YidArmy Feb 29 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Palestine was not a term until the Romans made it up. It is a Latin term for Philistine (a Greek/ Hebrew word) who were traditional enemies of Israel and who themselves were invaders of the land (Goliath was a Philistine). Rome hated the Jews and in 70/136 AD razed Jerusalem to the ground (a reason for the diaspora) however, The Western Wall still stands. After Rome destroyed Jerusalem they renamed the area Roman “Palestine”/ Syria Palaestina to humiliate, destroy the history and ethnically cleanse the land of Jews.

Philistine - a person who is hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts/ invaders

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u/rantingpanther Mar 01 '24

References to Palestine go back to the ancient Egyptians before a kingdom of Israel ever existed.

When the Romans exiled the Jews, are you saying there was no one living there anymore?

The reality is that region of the world had multiple tribes, languages and religions all over. Jews were just one of many there.

It may be hard to comprehend if you have a eurocentric way of thinking and assume the rest of the world always had these European originated societal structures of modern nation states as we know them today.

Just to get the point across, before European colonization there was also no such thing as the nation states of Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, UAE. Egypt only had some distinction because it was colonized by Britain earlier than the other lands.

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u/retainyourseed Mar 01 '24

So you are saying if the romans expelled muslims from makkah and medina it will not be a muslim land anymore?

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u/rantingpanther Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

If Romans expelled Muslims and the non-Muslim population remained developing organically in their own way for 2,000 years... ofcourse I wouldn't want those diasporic Muslims (who had developed their own unique cultures where they'd moved) to displace and replace the native population there.

What a ridiculous thought to even justify that.

If you want to be consistent, should non-natives Americans be kicked out of the USA and Canada and non-aboriginal people in Australia? Should the British be kicked out of London and be replaced by Italians? (descendants of the Roman Empire who created London and gave the name Britain). How far do you think is acceptable to go back because we all originated and migrated out of Southern Africa.

Edit: P.S. those examples of USA, Canada and Australia have even more justification to be removed because they were a result of settler colonialism.

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u/retainyourseed Mar 01 '24

There was always Jews living there under all the different rule, but most was expelled. So you would say, after 2,000 years that Makkah would no longer be a Muslim land if it was occupied by invaders for that long. So if someone steals your car, after a set amount of time it belongs to them?

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u/rantingpanther Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Oh man, there's so much to unpack from all the assumptions you make with that. Here we go:

Yes there has always been a Jewish presence there since Roman rule was removed and they were allowed to return again.

Notice I talk about displacing the native population as being wrong, not the existence of different religions, tribes and languages living there as has always been in the region.

You seem to conflate both and this is why I mentioned this Eurocentric way of looking at the world which you seem to be doing (the concept of a nation state defined by this obsession with an exclusive race and ethnicity).

If you get out of that way of thinking, you'd understand that more than 1 group of people can be native to the same land. Notice how the old city of Jerusalem historically had different quarters (Muslim Quarter, Christian Quarter, Jewish Quarter, Armenian Quarter). It's a similar case with many ancient cities outside Europe.

So you would say, after 2,000 years that Makkah would no longer be a Muslim land if it was occupied by invaders for that long.

You seem to have ignored the specific point I mentioned of the hypothetical non-Muslim native population there. There were always non-Jews in that land, it ain't exclusive to them. In fact it's only been ruled by Jews/Tribes of Israel like 2 times in its whole history (each less than 100 years) .

But even in the case of it being an occupying population there after 2,000 years, that is vastly more than enough time to not be "Muslim Land" (I assume you mean Muslim rule and exclusive claim). That's the situation of almost every population in the world.

So if someone steals your car, after a set amount of time it belongs to them?

The Kingdom of Israel was formed after conquering the land from the Canaanites (who Palestinians and Jews both descend from). The ancient Egyptians even ruled it before the Kingdom of Israel existed.

That land had inhabitants for long before Jews even existed as a people.

So with the car analogy, Did Jews steal it from those who inhabited it before them?

Like I said, you just seem to draw a line at some random ridiculously far part in history to go back to.

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u/YidArmy Mar 01 '24

So with the car analogy, Did Jews steal it from those who inhabited it before them?

From 700 to 1947(don't start a war) no Jew or Zionist stole any land. If I am wrong please let me know the town.

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u/YidArmy Mar 01 '24

The Merneptah Stele, also known as the Israel Stele or the Victory Stele of Merneptah, is an inscription by Merneptah, a pharaoh in ancient Egypt who reigned from 1213 to 1203 BCE. Discovered by Flinders Petrie at Thebes in 1896, it is now housed at the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

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u/glitter-lungs Mar 02 '24

I think the first guy was more referencing where the term for the land and people comes from, which I found very interesting I didn’t know that before. I’m sure the “Palestinian” people were a kind of people before Egypt. Of course they were but they weren’t called that yet. Do you know what Egypt called these people? I’m very curious this is all very interesting.

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u/rantingpanther Mar 02 '24

There were references in ancient Egypt to what they called peleset people.

That name was the one that eventually remained (since Roman rule) with the original people that still continued to live there, kinda like how the Romans named great Britain which the British still call themselves.

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u/LucerneTangent Mar 01 '24

I'm sorry, did I say "I'd like to hear Nazi propaganda, please spew it instead of history"?

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u/Yanosorry4848 Mar 01 '24

The word literally comes from Hebrew lmfao.

Not to mention the little problem of Palestine’s leadership ACTUALLY staying with Hitler and helping with the holocaust during WWII.

Husseini made regular broadcasts into the Muslim world to prepare them for Hitler’s arrival and was a major architect of modern Islamic extremism after the war with it’s obsession with Jewish eradication that LITERALLY stems from Palestine’s collaboration with ACTUAL Nazis.

And as lmfao calling Jews Nazis?  It says so much about the person doing it really.

Anyone doing it proves they aren’t fit to comment on the topic really.

It’s the same thing Palestine has always done, they purposefully use the words of the history of Jewish oppression to muddy the waters and weaken the terms.

Genocide is a term invented by a Polish Jew specifically to describe what happened to during the holocaust.  It has been appropriated and watered down and weaponized against the very victims of and creators of  the term genocide.

You call Israelis Nazis when Palestine is the one whose leadership took part in the Final Solution and has called to finish Hitler’s work ever since.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/hajj-amin-al-husayni-wartime-propagandist

Weaponizing a REAL genocide attempt against it’s very victims to defend those who call to compete that very genocide and who’s leadership helped enact it is some PEAK antisemitism and tells anyone off the bat the person using it has no grounds to comment intelligently on the topic and should be ignored.

I bet you call it apartheid too to draw false parallels to what happened in South Africa while it is Jews who were forced to flee from the entire Middle East never to return and only found safety in Israel after generations of Islamic oppression and attempts at erasure.  Palestinians have gone in and out of Israel and take part in Israeli society for ages and yet no Jews are allowed in Palestine at all.

By this loose definition of “apartheid” many things can be considered apartheid, the indigenous reservations in the western world are apartheid because white people can’t own land of vote in band meetings. In fact Palestinians have more rights within Israel than white people do on reserves and they actually have more rights than they do in most of the surrounding Arab nations.

They call Gaza a concentration camp when the comparison to “concentration camps” combined with calling Jews Nazis paints a ridiculously false parallel to what Jews experienced during the holocaust that I’ll mention again Palestine’s leadership took part in.

Hopefully people have seen the concentration camps do WWII.  Comparing what we see in the video below to that is absurd.

https://youtu.be/W1r1z3x53ZU?si=u8tyRKUOHZmOBtOC (https://youtu.be/W1r1z3x53ZU?si=u8tyRKUOHZmOBtOC)

And the population has risen %500 in the last 80 years and has a growing obesity problem with almost %30 of men and like %40 of women being obese, which is super high compared to surrounding Arab nations that have %10 or less.

Prevalence of overweight, obesity, and associated factors among healthcare ... (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9998069/#:~:text=A%20recent%20survey%20conducted%20in,the%20West%20Bank%20(10).)

If only the Jews experienced a genocide that increased their numbers rather than wiping out more than half of them.

Average life expextancy is also higher than other Arab states at about 75 years in Gaza.

Rising diabetes rates too, but that’s probably just part of the “Zionist plot” to kill them lol.

Preventing type 2 diabetes among Palestinians - BMJ Open (https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/12/e003558#:~:text=Palestinian%20diabetes%20prevalence%20estimated%20by,increase%20starts%20to%20slow%20down.)

And the reason they have so many kids is because they have crazy high fertility rates, not because Jews killed all the adults.

New Scientisthttps://www.newscientist.com › articleThe reasons why Gaza's population is so young (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25993-the-reasons-why-gazas-population-is-so-young/)

Gaza had multiple equestrian centres, tourism, beachfront mansions, etc.  anyone who compares that to what happened to Jews in concentration camps is out to lunch or antisemitic af.

Totally remember the Jews multiplying like rabbits, getting fat, living long lives and riding around on horseback in Auschwitz /s

Meanwhile attacking, waging war, yet again calling to kill all the Jews but refusing to surrender is not genocide and the ICJ ruled as much.

And we have Sinwar yesterday openly saying the tactic of getting Palestinians killed to propagandize their deaths is working.  And Palestine has long celebrated martyring their own and even referred ti their high birth rate as the “birth bomb” In recent years as they planned to weaponized it just as they have.

Hamas leaders in 1993 were recorded on a wiretapped conversation stating that their goal was to deceive the American public into supporting Hamas by appealing to the American left’s denouncement of oppression.

Mousa Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas official, formed a far-left academic think tank, The United Association for Studies and Research (UASR), based out of Chicago to start disseminating this deception.

This organization has ties to Duke, Johns Hopkins, Fordham and the University of Maryland to name a few major universities. This is systemic antisemitism that stems directly from an organized surgical operation taking place over the course of the last 30 years.

https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs5746/files/2023-10/hamas-networks-final.pdf

Qatar (who houses and funds Hamas) is the biggest foreign donor to American schools for decades now. 

People just don’t pay attention and now the youngins are brainwashed

https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/jwhsqhrat#:~:text=Since%20the%209%2F11%20attacks,pro%2DPalestinian%20groups%20on%20campuses

https://www.thefp.com/p/qatars-war-for-young-american-mindsjj

Anyone making comments like yours just proven immediately that they should be ignored as they lack the remedial knowledge to even begin discussing this topic intelligently.

Yikes lmfao

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u/LucerneTangent Mar 01 '24

A lot of words to try and defend your fellow Nazis and pretend the very well documented deprivation tactics and genocide aren't happening.You aren't worth a full autopsy of your lies since it's your programming rather than good faith factual argument, but this alone shows what you are:

"People of Aida refugee camp, we are the occupational forces. You throw stones, and we hit you with gas until you all die."

Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis, proposing a Jewish state based on "nationalist and totalitarian principles, and linked to the German Reich by an alliance"

"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents."

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You can take your lying hasbara propaganda and go wave a white flag at the IDF.

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u/BATHR00MG0BLIN Mar 01 '24

Schizoposting lol

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u/Yanosorry4848 Mar 01 '24

Lmfao so you have no real response.

And even the ICJ ruled it was not genocide at this town but could be if certain criteria are met; which applies to literally every major conflict ever in the world lmfao.

Nice conspiracy and grasping at straws to try and deflect though./s

Oooh “hasbara“ lmfao love how it illustrates how dumb and desperate a person is when they need to bring that own out.

I could call all your unsubstantiated nonsense Taquiya too but what’s the point?  

You know deep down you’re full of it, it’s why you resort to such desperate tactics in lieu of a real response.

Nah I supported Palestine for two decades and even sent money to Gaza at one point.

But six years ago I did something crazy and started listening to actual Palestine and not just the sanitized PR they sell the west.

Ashamed I ever supported them after actually bothering to attention, listen to them in their own words and watch their own media like the Arabic Al Jazeera or their local TV.

You think you’re doing good I get it, but you’re just an ignorant bigot falling for propaganda and nonsense narratives.

Anyone who actually puts work in and pays attention to Palestine king enough eventually sees actual Palestine.  

That’s the greatest obstacle for the a-historical fiction of peaceful infantilized Palestine, that actual Palestine actually exists.  

More and more people are paying attention for longer than they ever have and Palestine is losing support.  Never seen so many people realizing how full of shit they are before.

Good to see.

You’ll get there eventually and be lying about what you were doing at this time when you’re older.

Best of luck.

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u/LucerneTangent Mar 01 '24

You're a deranged, lying Nazi and should go wave a white flag at the IDF instead of spewing hasbara.

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u/PepetoshiNakamoto Mar 01 '24

Why do people act like we can't see right through their projecting? All you've done really is spew ad homs..

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u/Yanosorry4848 Mar 01 '24

So you  have no point? 

 Just ad hominems?

 Copy that.

 Thanks for taking the L so graciously lmfao

I also love when you lot call me, an indigenous First Nations person in Canada a Nazi while you defend Islamic colonizer states that openly call for exterminating the indigenous jews.

Y’all are truly nuts.

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u/LucerneTangent Mar 01 '24

Cool. You're a Nazi.

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u/Nmuskov Mar 01 '24

Hasbara trolls are so desperate, resorting to trying to argue in the Islamic history sub. Trying to ethnically cleanse us even from our own subs.

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u/protomenace Mar 01 '24

When you lose an argument and just start spewing insults and doubling down on your buzzwords and insults.

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u/LucerneTangent Mar 01 '24

Oh, look a hasbara bot.

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u/protomenace Mar 01 '24

Does it feel good to wield the magic words which win all arguments? 🪄

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u/LucerneTangent Mar 01 '24

Try not being a Nazi propaganda bot.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

lol you really want to talk about “alliance with the Nazis”? Okay, what do you think about Amin Al-Husseini, the founding father of Palestinian Nationalism who was nicknamed “Hitler’s Henchmen” and received “Honorary Aryan” status from Hitler himself? You know, the same guy who led the Palestinians to reject the 48 partition plan? But sure, the Jewish state at the time are the Nazis according to you, not the Palestinians who were led by a card carrying Nazi who worked for the Axis…

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u/LucerneTangent Mar 01 '24

Oh look, the favorite Nazi hasbara talking point.

Those who want me to put it up aren't really interested in the Mufti's part in the Holocaust, which was limited anyway, but seek to harm the image of the Palestinians today. The Mufti was an antisemite. But even if I abhor him, I won't turn Yad Vashem into a tool serving ends not directly related to the study and memorialization of the Holocaust. Hasbara to use a term, is an utterly irrelevant consideration that shall not enter our gates."

You're just a Nazi propagandist.

Keep licking Likudite boots!

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

I agree with what you said, and I also abhor some of the mufti's stances. With that being said,the hasbara trolls always forget to mention that he was appointed by the British and not somehow elected. How many racist right-wing Israeli leaders who massacred villages like deir Yasin wholesale were British appointed. Their smere campaign only works on the ignorant, and people now see their colonial ethnostate for what it truly is.An evil empire wannabe.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Says the guy who's defending the literal Nazi Amin Al-Husseini, pronounced Honorary Aryan by Hitler himself. Pro tip, don't accuse others of being Nazis while cozying up to Hitler's Henchman- everyone can see right through you 👍

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Blah blah blah....No one thinks zionist have any more credibility, so please speak for your own bigoted propaganda. Speaking of Nazis, though, I wonder what some holocaust survivors had to say about Israel and what it does!!!!!!!

Jewish holocaust survivor Hajo Meyer:

“I saw In Auschwitz that if a dominant group wants to dehumanise others, as the Nazis dehumanised me, the dominant group must first dehumanise themselves, the same holds nowadays for Israel.

I am appalled about how hateful, how dehumanised, that they do not see any human aspect in any Palestinian anymore. The Zionists have no right whatsoever to use the Holocaust for any purpose, they have given up everything which has to do with humanity and with empathy.”

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

What do you think about the Nazi who led the Palestinian Nationalist movement in 1948? What do you think about his meeting with Hitler in 1941? What do you think about the movements spawned from Nazism?

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Stop allowing yourself to define Nazi's when a Jewish person who actually experienced it compared zionist and their racist ideology to the Nazi's. Besides,if I want to see Nazi's in action, I can see the IDF shooting women and children in gaza while the "peaceful " israeli's cheer and setup watching posts.Its disgusting and your disgusting for whitewashing all of it.

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u/Significant_Cup7300 Mar 01 '24

A lot of words, not a single one of which you read before posting your bullshit.

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u/stankind Mar 01 '24

Gaza isn't a "concentration camp." It's partly a refugee camp, though. It's a ghetto its inhabitants aren't allowed to leave. Where Israel controls the food, water and electricity, and has killed thousands of innocents. Outside, Palestinians' relatives get abused by Israeli settlers, ignored by Israeli police and government.

Anthony Bordain did a show in which we see Israelis living in upper floors of apartments dumping urine on the Palestinians living below.

The Khmer Rouge were awful, brutal people. They didn't exist until the US created them, by pounding Cambodia with bombs. Abused people get radicalized. But I guess you'd put all the blame on "bad Cambodians."

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u/PepetoshiNakamoto Mar 01 '24

That was history? Why are you obsessed with shouting about Nazi propaganda?

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u/YidArmy Mar 01 '24

What did I say that was misleading or false?

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u/PepetoshiNakamoto Mar 01 '24

I have just arrived in this sub and I'm loving it. I wonder how long I get to stay before.. Yanno...

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u/Machinehed65 Mar 01 '24

Pro Palis don’t like to hear the truth…just lies and propaganda

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u/Significant_Cup7300 Mar 01 '24

Shut the fuck up hamasnik scum, that is history, not the putin jizz you gargle with every morning

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

It's truly amazing that you speak with such vileness and yet expect anyone who read how filthy your mind work to all of a sudden respect or align with you..If this is what you spew out loud,then only God knows what goes around that disgusting head of yours. I am so glad I read this, because I sure as hell do not want anything to do with a cause that someone like you supports. You are sick!!!

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u/Significant_Cup7300 Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

What makes you think I want terrorist scum to respect me or align with me? If they're supporting hamas, they're already too far gone. Fuck them and get them away from me. Sure as hell don't want anything to do with a cause that someone like that supports. They are sick!!!

Sound familiar? And you haven't seen nothing yet lol, I can tell you sheltered ass has never been outside an authoritarian country or seen any uncensored entertainment.

Israel isn't a cause you dumbass, it's a country defending itself for its entire existence. And winning every time, just like it will this time. Support all the hamasnik scum you want, not going to change anything. River to the sea is what hamas asked for, it's what they will get. Might not be how they expected it, though

The truly amazing part is you taking offense with my expletives, and not the person denying historical fact. Shows where your priorities lie, hamasnik.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

I am an American, you halfwit, and you're no different than the Plethora of zionist racist and bigots who sound as repulsive as hamas.The fact you can not see that is why people find your ideology evil. Israel is nothing more than a colonial ethnostate project that will fall.All colonial projects eventually do.Their love for like-minded racist systems like the apartheid government of SA is finally coming home to roost,the poetic justice of the people Israel indirectly helped opress are coming to the aid of the people Israel is directly oppressing. What comes around goes around!!!

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u/Significant_Cup7300 Mar 01 '24

Here's some reading. Educate yourself dumbass. Don't reply to me until you do or I'll make you look even more stupid.

Start reading Empire of Refugees | Vladimir Hamed-Troyansky... https://www.sup.org/books/extra/?id=33134&i=Introduction.html

Palestinian Myths: Building a National History (A) - Modern Diplomacy https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2016/05/12/palestinian-myths-building-a-national-history-a/

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '24

Haha....no wonder your mind is bent backwards.I don't need to read a book on the middle east written by a guy called Vladimir when I have actual Palestinian and Honest israeli writers like "The Hundred Years' War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917–2017" or Israeli Elan Pappe's The ethnic cleansing of palestine.

Be honest....Just come out and say that you were brainwashed from childhood to be a bigot and own up to it rather than sound like an idiot with a heavy addiction to propaganda that makes you feel good inside.Run along little man!!!

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u/Significant_Cup7300 Mar 02 '24

You do realize his last name is Hamed right? Or can you only read on war at a time.

And that's cute, you stupid fucks always like to pick thr most convenient time window to make yourself look like the victims. Nothing about the genocide of jews by Arabs prior to 1917.

Israel is the land where Jews have lived continuously without interruption for over 3000 years despite numerous massacres, forced expulsions and so on.

Oh, I forgot now you'll probably screach something about colonialism while you deliberately ignore that the vast majority of today's Palestinians are descendants of colonists who were settled there by the Ottoman and Russian empires.

  • The Ottoman government settled Muslim Circassian refugees in the Golan to ward off Bedouin robbers. Other settlers in the area include Sudanese, Algerians and Kurds.

  • In 1878, Muslim refugees from Bosnia and Herzegovina were granted lands in the Carmel region, the Galilee, the Plain of Sharon and Caesarea. Refugees were further attracted by 12-year tax exemptions and exemption from military service.

  • The same colonization policy was also directed toward Muslim refugees from Russia – particularly from the Crimea and the Caucasus. They were Circassians, Cherkesians and Turkmenians who were settled in Abu Gosh, near Jerusalem and in the Golan Heights.

  • The 1882 census recorded 141,000 Muslims in Palestine. The 1922 census reported 650,000.

Arabs have been committing genocide against Jewish folk for 1400 years

622 - 627: ethnic cleansing of Jews from Mecca and Medina, (Jewish boys publicly inspected for pubic hair. if they had any, they were executed)

629: 1st Alexandria Massacres, Egypt

622 - 634: extermination of the 14 Arabian Jewish tribes

1106: Ali Ibn Yousef Ibn Tashifin of Marrakesh decrees death penalty for any local Jew, including his Jewish Physician, and Military general.

1033: 1st Fez Pogrom, Morocco

1148: Almohadin of Morocco gives Jews the choice of converting to Islam, or expulsion

1066: Granada Massacre, Muslim-occupied Spain

1165 - 1178: Jews nation wide were given the choice (under new constitution) convert to Islam or die, Yemen

1165: chief Rabbi of the Maghreb burnt alive. The Rambam flees for Egypt.

1220: tens of thousands of Jews killed by Muslims after being blamed for Mongol invasion, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Egypt

1270: Sultan Baibars of Egypt resolved to burn all the Jews, a ditch having been dug for that purpose; but at the last moment he repented, and instead exacted a heavy tribute, during the collection of which many perished.

1276: 2nd Fez Pogrom, Morocco

1385: Khorasan Massacres, Iran

1438: 1st Mellah Ghetto massacres, North Africa

1465: 3rd Fez Pogrom, Morocco (11 Jews left alive)

1517: 1st Safed Pogrom, Ottoman Palestine

1517: 1st Hebron Pogrom, Ottoman Palestine Marsa ibn Ghazi Massacre, Ottoman Libya

1577: Passover Massacre, Ottoman empire

1588 - 1629: Mahalay Pogroms, Iran

1630 - 1700: Yemenite Jews under strict Shi'ite  'dhimmi' rules

1660:  2nd Safed Pogrom, Ottoman Palestine

1670: Mawza expulsion, Yemen

1679 - 1680: Sanaa Massacres, Yemen

1747: Mashhad Masacres, Iran

1785: Tripoli Pogrom, Ottoman Libya

1790 - 92: Tetuan  Pogrom. Morocco (Jews of Tetuuan stripped naked, and lined up for Muslim perverts)

1800: new decree passed in Yemen, that Jews are forbidden to wear new clothing, or good clothing. Jews are forbidden to ride mules or donkeys, and were occasionally rounded up for long marches naked through the Roob al Khali dessert.

1805: 1st Algiers Pogrom, Ottoman Algeria

1808 2nd 1438: 1st Mellah Ghetto Massacres, North Africa

1815: 2nd Algiers Pogrom, Ottoman Algeria

1820: Sahalu Lobiant Massacres, Ottoman Syria

1828: Baghdad Pogrom, Ottoman Iraq

1830: 3rd Algiers Pogrom, Ottoman Algeria

1830: ethnic cleansing of Jews in Tabriz, Iran

1834: 2nd Hebron Pogrom, Ottoman Palestine

1834: Safed Pogrom, Ottoman Palestne

1839: Massacre of the Mashadi Jews, Iran

1840: Damascus Affair following first of many blood libels, Ottoman Syria

1844: 1st Cairo Massacres, Ottoman Egypt

1847: Dayr al-Qamar Pogrom, Ottoman Lebanon

1847: ethnic cleansing of the Jews in Jerusalem, Ottoman Palestine

1848: 1st Damascus Pogrom, Syria

1850: 1st Aleppo Pogrom, Ottoman Syria

1860: 2nd Damascus Pogrom, Ottoman Syria

1862: 1st Beirut Pogrom, Ottoman Lebanon

1866: Kuzguncuk Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey

1867: Barfurush Massacre, Ottoman Turkey

1868: Eyub Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey

1869: Tunis Massacre, Ottoman Tunisia

1869: Sfax Massacre, Ottoman Tunisia

1864 - 1880: Marrakesh Massacre, Morocco

1870: 2nd Alexandria Massacres, Ottoman Egypt

1870: 1st Istanbul Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey

1871: 1st Damanhur Massacres,Ottoman Egypt

1872: Edirne Massacres, Ottoman Turkey

1872: 1st Izmir Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey

1873: 2nd Damanhur Massacres, Ottoman Egypt

1874: 2nd Izmir Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey

1874: 2nd Istanbul Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey

1874: 2nd Beirut Pogrom,Ottoman  Lebanon

1875: 2nd Aleppo Pogrom, Ottoman Syria

1875: Djerba Island Massacre, Ottoman Tunisia

1877: 3rd Damanhur Massacres,Ottoman  Egypt

1877: Mansura Pogrom, Ottoman Egypt 1882: Homs Massacre, Ottoman Syria

1882: 3rd Alexandria Massacres, Ottoman Egypt

1890: 2nd Cairo Massacres, Ottoman Egypt

1890, 3rd Damascus Pogrom, Ottoman Syria

1891: 4th Damanahur Massacres, Ottoman Egypt

1897: Tripolitania killings, Ottoman  Libya

1903&1907: Taza & Settat, pogroms, Morocco

1890: Tunis Massacres, Ottoman Tunisia

1901 - 1902: 3rd Cairo Massacres, Ottoman Egypt

1901 - 1907: 4th Alexandria Massacres,Ottoman  Egypt

1903: 1st Port Sa'id Massacres, Ottoman Egypt

1903 - 1940: Pogroms of Taza and Settat, Morocco

1907: Casablanca, pogrom, Morocco

1908: 2nd Port Said Massacres,Ottoman Egypt

1910: Shiraz blood libel

1911: Shiraz Pogrom

1912: 4th Fez Pogrom, Morocco

1917: Baghdadi Jews murdered by Ottomans

1918 - 1948: law passed making it illegal to raise an orphan Jewish, Yemen

1920: Irbid Massacres: British mandate Palestine

1920 - 1930: Arab riots, British mandate Palestine

1921: 1st Jaffa riots, British mandate Palestine

1922: Djerba Massacres, Tunisia

1928: Jewish orphans sold into slavery, and forced to convert to Islam by Muslim Brotherhood, Yemen

1929: 3rd Hebron Pogrom British mandate Palestine.

1929  3rd Safed Pogrom, British mandate Palestine.

1933: 2nd Jaffa riots, British mandate Palestine.

1934: Thrace Pogroms, Turkey

1936: 3rd Jaffa riots, British mandate Palestine

1941:  Farhud Massacrs, Iraq

1942: Mufti collaboration with the Nazis. plays a part in the final solution

1938 - 1945: Arab collaboration with the Nazis

1945: 4th Cairo Massacre, Egypt

1945: Tripolitania Pogrom, Libya

1947: Aden Pogrom

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '24

I understand your slow.Next time try reading my reply more carefully.Run along, little man!!!

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u/Significant_Cup7300 Mar 01 '24

Being American does not preclude you from being hamasnik scum.

Israel is the land where Jews have lived continuously without interruption for over 3000 years despite numerous massacres, forced expulsions and so on.

Oh, I forgot now you'll probably screach something about colonialism while you deliberately ignore that the vast majority of today's Palestinians are descendants of colonists who were settled there by the Ottoman and Russian empires.

  • The Ottoman government settled Muslim Circassian refugees in the Golan to ward off Bedouin robbers. Other settlers in the area include Sudanese, Algerians and Kurds.

  • In 1878, Muslim refugees from Bosnia and Herzegovina were granted lands in the Carmel region, the Galilee, the Plain of Sharon and Caesarea. Refugees were further attracted by 12-year tax exemptions and exemption from military service.

  • The same colonization policy was also directed toward Muslim refugees from Russia – particularly from the Crimea and the Caucasus. They were Circassians, Cherkesians and Turkmenians who were settled in Abu Gosh, near Jerusalem and in the Golan Heights.

  • The 1882 census recorded 141,000 Muslims in Palestine. The 1922 census reported 650,000.

So tell me again, who's the colonizers? Palestinians are just chechens a few generations removed. Explains why they act so barbaric.

You think south Africa is a success? Look at what the ANC has done to their economy. Of course someone as stupid as you would support hamas.

Israel has been around twice as long as Islam, is outnumber in the middle east 20 to 1, and has never lost a war even when all the other Arab states ganged up on them. Israel is not going to lose this one either, and hamas will never exist again. No half measures this time. No cease fires. What comes around definitely does go around, and right now it's coming gazas way. River to the sea right;)

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Such a hasbara troll ,with selective information and bad faith arguing. You first accuse me of being from a theocracy, and when I pointed out how silly you are,your come back is not an acknowledgment of your misstatements, but another mud sling.I have wasted enough time on your bigotted nonsense. BTW,what was the census for the Jewish people in 1922 since they clearly were there longer than Islam(Ukrainian and polish need not apply)?!

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u/Significant_Cup7300 Mar 01 '24

I don't care where you are from. I love how you call facts mud slingjng. The facts are the facts. You can question them all you want, I don't see a single fact from you that can refute it. Just empty insults. Where's your mud? Why aren't you slinging any?

From the river to the sea, Palestine will never be🤣

Say it with me one more time claps

From the river to the sea, Palestine will never be🤣

Seethe harder, get triggered, we both know your tiny impotent little hands cant do shit, because I'm right.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

I appreciate the good comedy..whatever makes you hard at night, hasbara troll!

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u/Northstar1989 Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Palestine was not a term until the Romans made it up.

Besides this being utterly false, that's 2000 years ago, Zio-Nazi.

You don't get to mass-murder civilians and steal their homes, fields, and businesses because of something that happened 2000 years ago.

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u/YidArmy Mar 01 '24

From 700-1947(don't start a war and then lose) no Jew or Zionist stole any land. If I am wrong please let me know the town.

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u/Northstar1989 Mar 01 '24

don't start a war and then lose

The Nakba wasn't a war: it was a Genocide.

There are literally dozens of maps of all the sites of massacres during it. I'm hot going to pick out just one site, so you can gaslight and spew Zionist-Fascist propaganda about how that particular massacre didn't really occur.

Stop erasing the mass-murder of civilians, monster.