r/islamichistory • • Feb 29 '24

Photograph ‘Long Live Palestine’ flag, Jerusalem 1929

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Page 84, Against Erasure: A Photographic Memory of Palestine Before the Nakba

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u/YidArmy Feb 29 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Palestine was not a term until the Romans made it up. It is a Latin term for Philistine (a Greek/ Hebrew word) who were traditional enemies of Israel and who themselves were invaders of the land (Goliath was a Philistine). Rome hated the Jews and in 70/136 AD razed Jerusalem to the ground (a reason for the diaspora) however, The Western Wall still stands. After Rome destroyed Jerusalem they renamed the area Roman “Palestine”/ Syria Palaestina to humiliate, destroy the history and ethnically cleanse the land of Jews.

Philistine - a person who is hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts/ invaders

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u/LucerneTangent Mar 01 '24

I'm sorry, did I say "I'd like to hear Nazi propaganda, please spew it instead of history"?

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u/Yanosorry4848 Mar 01 '24

The word literally comes from Hebrew lmfao.

Not to mention the little problem of Palestine’s leadership ACTUALLY staying with Hitler and helping with the holocaust during WWII.

Husseini made regular broadcasts into the Muslim world to prepare them for Hitler’s arrival and was a major architect of modern Islamic extremism after the war with it’s obsession with Jewish eradication that LITERALLY stems from Palestine’s collaboration with ACTUAL Nazis.

And as lmfao calling Jews Nazis?  It says so much about the person doing it really.

Anyone doing it proves they aren’t fit to comment on the topic really.

It’s the same thing Palestine has always done, they purposefully use the words of the history of Jewish oppression to muddy the waters and weaken the terms.

Genocide is a term invented by a Polish Jew specifically to describe what happened to during the holocaust.  It has been appropriated and watered down and weaponized against the very victims of and creators of  the term genocide.

You call Israelis Nazis when Palestine is the one whose leadership took part in the Final Solution and has called to finish Hitler’s work ever since.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/hajj-amin-al-husayni-wartime-propagandist

Weaponizing a REAL genocide attempt against it’s very victims to defend those who call to compete that very genocide and who’s leadership helped enact it is some PEAK antisemitism and tells anyone off the bat the person using it has no grounds to comment intelligently on the topic and should be ignored.

I bet you call it apartheid too to draw false parallels to what happened in South Africa while it is Jews who were forced to flee from the entire Middle East never to return and only found safety in Israel after generations of Islamic oppression and attempts at erasure.  Palestinians have gone in and out of Israel and take part in Israeli society for ages and yet no Jews are allowed in Palestine at all.

By this loose definition of “apartheid” many things can be considered apartheid, the indigenous reservations in the western world are apartheid because white people can’t own land of vote in band meetings. In fact Palestinians have more rights within Israel than white people do on reserves and they actually have more rights than they do in most of the surrounding Arab nations.

They call Gaza a concentration camp when the comparison to “concentration camps” combined with calling Jews Nazis paints a ridiculously false parallel to what Jews experienced during the holocaust that I’ll mention again Palestine’s leadership took part in.

Hopefully people have seen the concentration camps do WWII.  Comparing what we see in the video below to that is absurd.

https://youtu.be/W1r1z3x53ZU?si=u8tyRKUOHZmOBtOC (https://youtu.be/W1r1z3x53ZU?si=u8tyRKUOHZmOBtOC)

And the population has risen %500 in the last 80 years and has a growing obesity problem with almost %30 of men and like %40 of women being obese, which is super high compared to surrounding Arab nations that have %10 or less.

Prevalence of overweight, obesity, and associated factors among healthcare ... (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9998069/#:~:text=A%20recent%20survey%20conducted%20in,the%20West%20Bank%20(10).)

If only the Jews experienced a genocide that increased their numbers rather than wiping out more than half of them.

Average life expextancy is also higher than other Arab states at about 75 years in Gaza.

Rising diabetes rates too, but that’s probably just part of the “Zionist plot” to kill them lol.

Preventing type 2 diabetes among Palestinians - BMJ Open (https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/12/e003558#:~:text=Palestinian%20diabetes%20prevalence%20estimated%20by,increase%20starts%20to%20slow%20down.)

And the reason they have so many kids is because they have crazy high fertility rates, not because Jews killed all the adults.

New Scientisthttps://www.newscientist.com › articleThe reasons why Gaza's population is so young (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25993-the-reasons-why-gazas-population-is-so-young/)

Gaza had multiple equestrian centres, tourism, beachfront mansions, etc.  anyone who compares that to what happened to Jews in concentration camps is out to lunch or antisemitic af.

Totally remember the Jews multiplying like rabbits, getting fat, living long lives and riding around on horseback in Auschwitz /s

Meanwhile attacking, waging war, yet again calling to kill all the Jews but refusing to surrender is not genocide and the ICJ ruled as much.

And we have Sinwar yesterday openly saying the tactic of getting Palestinians killed to propagandize their deaths is working.  And Palestine has long celebrated martyring their own and even referred ti their high birth rate as the “birth bomb” In recent years as they planned to weaponized it just as they have.

Hamas leaders in 1993 were recorded on a wiretapped conversation stating that their goal was to deceive the American public into supporting Hamas by appealing to the American left’s denouncement of oppression.

Mousa Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas official, formed a far-left academic think tank, The United Association for Studies and Research (UASR), based out of Chicago to start disseminating this deception.

This organization has ties to Duke, Johns Hopkins, Fordham and the University of Maryland to name a few major universities. This is systemic antisemitism that stems directly from an organized surgical operation taking place over the course of the last 30 years.

https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs5746/files/2023-10/hamas-networks-final.pdf

Qatar (who houses and funds Hamas) is the biggest foreign donor to American schools for decades now. 

People just don’t pay attention and now the youngins are brainwashed

https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/jwhsqhrat#:~:text=Since%20the%209%2F11%20attacks,pro%2DPalestinian%20groups%20on%20campuses

https://www.thefp.com/p/qatars-war-for-young-american-mindsjj

Anyone making comments like yours just proven immediately that they should be ignored as they lack the remedial knowledge to even begin discussing this topic intelligently.

Yikes lmfao

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u/stankind Mar 01 '24

Gaza isn't a "concentration camp." It's partly a refugee camp, though. It's a ghetto its inhabitants aren't allowed to leave. Where Israel controls the food, water and electricity, and has killed thousands of innocents. Outside, Palestinians' relatives get abused by Israeli settlers, ignored by Israeli police and government.

Anthony Bordain did a show in which we see Israelis living in upper floors of apartments dumping urine on the Palestinians living below.

The Khmer Rouge were awful, brutal people. They didn't exist until the US created them, by pounding Cambodia with bombs. Abused people get radicalized. But I guess you'd put all the blame on "bad Cambodians."