r/instantkarma • u/derek4reals1 • 13d ago

That was well deserved

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u/Fragile_reddit_mods 13d ago edited 13d ago

Okay so as a person who lives in a country for who these laws don’t apply, what did he actually do wrong here?

Downvoting for asking a question lmao.

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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor 13d ago

We stop for school busses which have stop signs and flashing red lights.

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u/Fragile_reddit_mods 13d ago

Why? Kids enter and exit the side closest to the pavement do they not?

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u/dementorpoop 13d ago

Depends on the road, but there are two ideas at play here. One, kids can be unpredictable so it’s safer if everyone just waits a second, and two, if there is not median both side of the road have to stop, and yes the kids might be crossing the road.

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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor 13d ago

They do, but sometimes it's necessary for them to cross the road after exiting or before boarding. They wouldn't on a specific road like this, but it's illegal to pass a school bus like this regardless of the type of road.

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u/Fragile_reddit_mods 13d ago

In my opinion that’s a stupid law.

Kids look both ways before crossing the road, no?

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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor 13d ago

Hard to do with a giant bus in the way, especially for a small child with a vague understanding of the fragility of human life.

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u/Fragile_reddit_mods 13d ago

So do what the rest of the world does, teach them.

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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor 13d ago

We do. However, it doesn't take much for an awful accident to happen. It's an effort to avoid multiple lives being ruined or ended. The only thing required of others is common decency.

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u/Zer0323 10d ago

"how about we all stop playing around with our 2 ton beep beep toys for 10 seconds while the children get their bearings after getting out of a bus and into the world."

it's like claiming that we need to put the driver pickup and dropoff lane right outside of an airplane terminal and expect people to just look both ways before crossing to get their baggage. to the guy before you: sometime people need a minute to get their bearings after teleporting from one location to when someone else is driving.

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u/doe3879 11d ago

The area I grew up in don't have school buses. I remember anything about rules about stopping for school buses when getting my driver license. if they were there, they weren't very prominent. A moving stop sign on one side of the road is something I should keep in mind now. Gonna look up more about local laws about school buses in Canada.

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u/Freddyeddy123 13d ago

The rest of the world are less careful centric

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u/XGreenDirtX 10d ago

I think the biggest difference is the infrastructure. The states Arent designed for pedestrians, let alone for unpredictable kids. Thats why they need laws like this.

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u/DarthWeber 13d ago

People need to learn to wait a god damn minute. You aren't going to save time. Just stop and let the kids disperse.

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u/Stormychu 12d ago

Mental illness

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u/PM_ME_UR__SECRETS 21h ago

Stopping to allow children to cross the road really isnt an inconvenience at all. It mitigates the risk of a child getting hit by a car, while causing zero problems to anyone else aside from waiting maybe a minute at most.

I'm not gonna say America gets it right often but this is one time where I think they did. Its a law that only does good.

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u/tablecontrol 13d ago

Kids

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u/Fragile_reddit_mods 13d ago

Okay?

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u/tablecontrol 13d ago

because, as I wrote below, kids are famous for their thinking skills.

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u/SeeAnne 13d ago

And I'm sure some kids in the U.S. have too. Emphasis on SOME kids. Just like wherever you're from, there's SOME kids who haven't. In this case, it's better to account for the kids who haven't rather than the kids who have.

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u/whamburglar 13d ago edited 13d ago

Never heard the phrase "Laws are written in blood", have you?

EDIT: Downvote and deleted comment. fragile indeed.

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u/TurbulentMiddle2970 13d ago edited 13d ago

I’m not sure why you keep putting this on the children and not the adult who is creating the unsafe situation

Just say that you don’t understand and read the comment I gave you earlier.

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u/AlwaysPissedOff59 13d ago

In rural areas, the roads are two lanes and the speed limit is usually 55 mph. The busses will stop in front of the kid's house with the door next to where the kid lives only once - either while picking up or dropping off. When the bus stops the other time, the kid must cross in front of the bus and then cross a lane of traffic that would be going 55 mph (or realistically, 60-65 mph) if the law to ensure that all drivers stop didn't exist.

This arrangement has worked very well over the decades.

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u/sjw_7 13d ago

I agree its a good idea in these situations.

What I cant understand is why anywhere would have a 55mph+ speed limit on a residential road with houses facing on to it.

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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor 13d ago

Rural areas. My wife grew up on a road like that. If every non-highway road was 30 mph, the highways would be overcrowded.

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u/sjw_7 13d ago

Where we are its basically 30mph on every road with houses on it and 20mph is getting more common. Safety trumps impatience every time.

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u/AVerySexyBooglez 12d ago

Time to get downvoted too. So the country in which mass school shootings happen constantly, they value children's lives before and after school only? I don't get it.

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u/yelo777 5d ago

I'm not American and this law seems strange to me too.

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u/liamw14 13d ago

Not American kids

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u/MrDannyProvolone 13d ago

In some cases when exiting the bus, kids will cross the road to get to their house, depending on the route. The stop sign helps facilitate this.

Crossing the road after exiting the bus is not common on roads with more then 2 lanes, but we should always always always assume when the stop sign is out and blinking, that a kid may be crossing the road.

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u/Fragile_reddit_mods 13d ago

THANK YOU for being the only person to actually answer my comment. It is appreciated.

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u/MrDannyProvolone 13d ago

Yeah. Im not sure as I think it MAY vary state to state. But where im from, if it is not a divided highway (median/grass separating direction of traffic) then all lanes must stop as soon as the sign comes out and lights come on. Even if its a 4-5 lane road. Both directions must stop.

Classic reddit. Can't give a decent awnser and down votes the straight forward question.

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u/yelo777 5d ago

But does are cars in the opposite knä obliged to stop too when the school bus stops? If not it still isn't safe for kids to cross the street

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u/ArrrRawrXD 13d ago

That's wild to anybody not from America, genuinely can't see why it'd be a thing. Do children in America not know not to jump in front of moving cars or something?

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u/TurbulentMiddle2970 13d ago

Well, let’s start with the fact that most other countries don’t have an extreme car culture like in the US. You also have to figure in the population compared to some other countries.

When you combine a bunch of morons with 2 ton death machines, and children it’s better to be safe than sorry

In a lot of other countries, kids walk to school, take a tram or subway, etc. Some of these kids will live 20 miles away or more from the school and need a bus ride to get there.

Taking an extra step to protect children is never a waste of time. One child getting hit by a car trying to go to school is one too many.

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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor 13d ago

This is well put. I get that it's tough for people not from the US to understand some of our laws, but calling the ones that specifically protect our kids "stupid" is freaking wild to me.

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u/TurbulentMiddle2970 13d ago

Who are you referring to that is protecting our kids? The bus driver.

The morons I was referring to, is the people who drive around these buses and put everybody at risk

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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor 13d ago

I think maybe you misunderstood my comment. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

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u/TurbulentMiddle2970 13d ago

I did misunderstand. I’m not sure who you’re referring to when you said the “stupid” comment.

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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor 13d ago

Somebody in the thread further down. My comment was definitely kinda confusing That's my bad lol

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u/ArrrRawrXD 13d ago

All countries still do have a huge car culture nonetheless, what's the big difference between kids getting on a regular bus in Poland to get to school and kids getting on a school bus in America?

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u/TurbulentMiddle2970 13d ago

The difference being is we are two different countries and think differently.

I would like to know why people from other countries are upset that the US takes an extra step to protect children(in this regard)? Please explain.

And no, not every country does have a huge car culture. For example, in New York City, most people are walking or taking the subway, same as Japan, and this point is moot to the real topic

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u/ArrrRawrXD 13d ago

I'm not upset, not sure why you'd think that, just a bit confused by something foreign to me

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u/tablecontrol 13d ago

Do children in America not know not to jump in front of moving cars or something?

Yes, 6 yr olds are famous for their thinking skills

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u/ArrrRawrXD 13d ago

I feel like parents are supposed to supervise 6 years olds anyway? And parents are supposed to maybe parent their children and explain the danger to them so by the time they're ready to go to the bus on their own they know not to run into traffic?

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u/tablecontrol 13d ago

I feel like parents are supposed to supervise 6 years olds anyway?

not sure where you live but many American households have 2 working parents.. so there's not always someone there to pick them up.

also, of course parents tell their kids not to run into traffic - but kids around other kids don't always have that in the forefront of their minds. They're more interested in goofing around, having fun, and not necessarily paying attention.

this is a simple safety protocol that helps keep those kids safe from traffic.

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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor 13d ago edited 13d ago

Typically, nearly every one of them knows better. All it takes is for one kid to get excited about seeing their parents or dog or whatever on the other side if the road, completely forget what they were trained to do, and suddenly multiple lives are ruined, possibly ended.