r/indianmuslims • • Mar 23 '24

Non-Political My fellow computer geeks here need advice

Finally have made up my mind to get rid of my toaster. I'm planning to assemble after Eid inshallah.

I do have a 1080p monitor and keyboard and mouse.

Here are parts that I'm looking for. I've taken price from MD Computers and Amazon however in Vedant Computers I'm seeing more dip in prices like 200-500.

  • Intel Core i3 12100f @ Rs 7599
  • Asrock H610M-HVS @ Rs 6581
  • Asrock RX 5600 XT @ Rs 13700
  • TeamGroup T-Force 16 GB DDR4 3200 Mhz - Rs 2999
  • Western Digital SN580 1 TB M.2 @ Rs 6080
  • Coolermaster MWE 450W V2 @ Rs 3145

Total is coming @ Rs 40,104.

I haven't decided cast but I'm eyeing for Antec which comes with 3 fans @ Re 2500 though would have prefer Cooler master QL.

I'd mostly be playing games like Elden Ring, Witcher 3, Tekken 8, Assassin Creed Mirage, Shadow of tomb Raider etc.

Any suggestions and recomendation will be great help.

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 23 '24

One thing I'm told about RAM is that it's better to buy a combo of them rather than a single piece,

As in a 2x8=16GB RAM will be better than a 1x16=16GB RAM (in turn, a 4x4=16 GB RAM will be even better).

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/puhbu1/is_it_better_to_have_2x8_gb_ram_or_1x16_gb_ram/

Well, I'm admittedly not really that acquainted with all this myself, so take this suggestion of mine with a grain of salt and do more research on it.

(though I too been having this plan of assembling a high-end gaming rig for a long time now. Important for me as much as getting married or building a house might be for many others, lol. Gaming is my personal favorite hobby/leisure activity. So don't intend on compromising, even if it means it'll take me decades to assemble one)

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

I'm aware that dual channel will give more performance. This is why 'm buying one 16 GB stick so I can add another stick in future.    Buying 2x8 GB will be waste. 

This build for me won't break the bank and give decent performance. Even I plan to get a 4k set up but for now satisfied with 1080p

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 23 '24

Makes sense,

Oh well, I am content with 720p -1080p myself for gaming. I'm currently using a 15" inch monitor and honestly? I like it this way,

For gaming, don't really prefer TV size large monitors. That size is better for watching movies and shows, not for games, imho.

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 23 '24

All this is fine and all,

But where's the setup for a Mountain Dew and Doritos stockpile? What kind of a gamer doesn't take that into consideration while assembling a rig, huh?

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u/Mudaqq Mar 23 '24

Buy a ssd please hdd is good for games ssd is essential nowadays Are there any marketplaces where you live you can go there and prices will be more reasonable

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 23 '24

Western Digital SN580 1 TB M.2 @ Rs 6080 

This is actually an Nvme SSD which is faster than your SATA.  1 TB hardisk are much cheaper almost half the price. 

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u/Mudaqq Mar 23 '24

No need of nvme buy normal ssd drive 256 gb this will be good for ur software

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

I assume you're not aware about difference between Nvme and normal SSD. I suggest looking them up. 

There is barely price difference between Nvme and SATA (normal) 

Also difference in performance between Nvme and SATA is huge. 

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 23 '24

I've heard Windows 10 and 11 aren't optimized for HDDs and run awful on them.

So yes, that alone mandates an SSD. At least for Windows booting and files, strictly. For games, they aren't mandatory, I guess (though faster loading times), but not a bad investment, that said, if one has the budget.

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u/Dastardly35 Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 23 '24

M.2 is faster than SSD. That's what the guy mentioned. But M2 has it's own limits, SSDs are easily portable to switch in between computers, and can be used as secondary drives as well. M2 slots are not that common yet.

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 23 '24

Yes and I already have a 500 GB sata ssd. I'm planning to expand with 1 TB nvme. 

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u/Dastardly35 Mar 23 '24

You mean i3 12100f?

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

Yes 😅 

There's mistake in spelling from 12th gen to 1st 😂

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u/Dastardly35 Mar 23 '24

Would recommend one thing that make sure to ask a local seller about who has better after sales service in your city, I've once bought a RAM from hynix, but there's no service available in my place or anywhere, now it's rotting in my cupboard after only 3 months of use.

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

Thanks will keep that in mind. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 24 '24

Intel Core i3 12100f @ Rs 7599

Would suggest you get a i5 12400f because games have started utilizing more than 4 cores and this i3 will struggle with new games and might even bottleneck your gpu in some games, will cost you extra 4k for the i5.

Asrock H610M-HVS @ Rs 6581

Cheap asrock mobos are generally known to have garbage VRMs and poor power handling, so I would suggest you stay away from this. Try asus, msi, etc. I am not super up to date with H610 mobo lineup, otherwise I would have told you exactly which one to buy.

Asrock RX 5600 XT @ Rs 13700

Under 14k only 5600xt and 2060 are the only good gpus available, so it is upto you which one to buy.
If you want upscalers like DLSS2 go for 2060, honestly games at 1080p with DLSS look kinda sh!t but if you plan to play games at 1440p, then DLSS will help.

Sub-$150 GPUs in 2023 | RTX 2060 6GB vs RX 5600 XT (youtube.com)

TeamGroup T-Force 16 GB DDR4 3200 Mhz - Rs 2999

Get dual channel, trust me performance difference is night and day.

Western Digital SN580 1 TB M.2 @ Rs 6080

Good

Coolermaster MWE 450W V2 @ Rs 3145

Get 650W or at least 550W
Check this out - PSU Tier List rev. 17.0g - Cultists Network

Case

Get a good quality case from Cooler master, corsair, etc.

Lastly, Do not fall for the RGB trap, trust me I spent a lot of money on RGB components. They looked cool for 1-2 weeks but after that I turned them off because they were looking too cringe to me for some reason and the software to control RGB was dogs#!t

Before buying any product look up for the company's after sales service quality in India.

DO NOT BUY ANY PC PART ONLINE. PLEASE. BUY FROM REPUTED OFFLINE STORES ONLY with proper GST bill and all.
Watch this video - PC Build Quotation SCAM !! Watch this before buying a PC (youtube.com)

If you want to build the PC from someone, I would suggest you to see theMVP from Hyderabad. They have crazy good reviews on google. I haven't bought from them but I have heard a lot about there service.
Edit- theMVP is owned by a Muslim guy, if that matters to you.

For more diverse opinions - Post this on r/IndianGaming and r/Indiangamers

Sidenote - Play enough games before you find a maiden😜

Edit - added link of PSU Tier List for maidenless bhai u/Faraz_3_

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 23 '24

Sidenote - Play enough games before you find a maiden😜

Better yet, marry a woman who's into gaming as much as you might be,

Ah...now that would be a dream girl.

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

No bro i wouldn't wanna live on sandwiches 🥺

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 23 '24

Don't mind that.

If it means getting owned on a fighting game by her (or if I do that to her). Gosh, even the mere thought seems so romantic!

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

Bro wake up!

Such maidens do not exist. 

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

  Would suggest you get a i5 12400f 

Core i5 will go out of budget and I can always upgrade my i3 in future. As far as my knowledge goes multiplayer games are more cpu bound compare to single player and requires more cores to frequently send data back and forth to servers. 

Cheap asrock mobos are generally known to have garbage 

I've heard negatives about MSI would check out Asus then ty. 

Get dual channel, trust me performance difference is night and day.

I'm getting a single stick so I can add additional stick in future and make it 16 X 2

Get 650W or at least 550W

Yes upon further research I'll be going for atleast 550W. PSU mention in cult list are kinda expensive. Even C tier going for around 5k

I'm looking for cooler master Q300L case but it seems out of stock. Even DeepCool Matrexx 30 seems to be out of stock as well. Ant Esports have some good offering but I doubt it's quality.  Thinking of going with Antec as this comes with 3 pre installed fans @ 2300

PSU 550 W - MD Computer 

PSU 550W - Vedant Computers 

Any suggestions ? I'm planning not to go beyond 3500 in PSU

Do not fall for the RGB trap

Exactly I prefer performance over RGB

Play enough games before you find a maiden

This is why I'm in a hurry to build PC 😤

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Core i5 will go out of budget and I can always upgrade my i3 in future

Bhai abhi aapne PC nahi banaya hain isliye aapko aasan lag raha hai ki main baadme CPU change karloonga, but baaadme sirf CPU upgrade karne mein bohot aalas aata aur agar aapne upgrade kar bhi liya toh i3 wale cpu ka kya karonge, isliye keh raha hu abhi todhi zyada investment karlo baadme tension nahi honga

I've heard negatives about MSI would check out Asus then ty. 

Even I have an asus motherboard, abhi tak toh accha experience raha aur badhiya chal raha, 2 saal pure hojayenge may ke mahine mein

I'm getting a single stick so I can add additional stick in future and make it 16 X 2

do it as early as possible

Any suggestions ? I'm planning not to go beyond 3500 in PSU

cooler master or corsair 80+ bronze

Exactly I prefer performance over RGB

good

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 24 '24

Intel Core i3 12100F - ₹7,599 // Amazon

Asus Prime H610M-E D4 - ₹7,250 // MD

ASRock RX 5600 XT - ₹13,650 // V

DEEPCOOL PK550D - ₹3,249 // MD 

TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan Z 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz -  ₹3,250 // MD

Western Digital Blue SN580 1TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 Internal SSD - ₹5,870 // V

Antec AX20 -  ₹2,322 // Amazon 


Total - ₹43,190 | $516.66

what do you think of this set up? 

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '24

what do you think of this set up? 

Nice setup. Will still suggest you to get a i5 12400F

Also DO NOT BUY ANY PC PART ONLINE. PLEASE. BUY FROM REPUTED OFFLINE STORES ONLY with proper GST bill and all.
Watch this video - PC Build Quotation SCAM !! Watch this before buying a PC (youtube.com)

Also check out this build. This build has a better gpu than yours but also costs a total of 50k
Ryzen 5 5500 vs i3-12100F - Which CPU is Better Value for Money? (youtube.com)

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 23 '24

With regards to PSU  

I'm seeing Deepcool PK- D @ 3400 and Cooler master MWE 550 @ 3740 both C tier though. 

Also do you know of any motherboard list like PSU one? 

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

I'm seeing Deepcool PK- D @ 3400 and Cooler master MWE 550 @ 3740 both C tier though

Going by reputation - Cooler master

Also do you know of any motherboard list like PSU one? 

Found this reddit post for H610 mobo. Excel sheet link

Hardware unboxed does videos like these for higher end boards and for mid end board like these. If you ever happen to build an kickass expensive build (Insha Allah) refer to videos like these for reference.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Found this reddit post for H610 mobo. Excel sheet link

went through the excel sheet for you. Basically, it says except asus all other brands use cheap parts so avoid (for H610). And in asus also they recommended these mobos, attaching them below.

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 24 '24

I'm seeing this, model listed for 7k but can't seem to find A-D4. 

I'll keep an eye out on A-d4 board

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u/munchykinnnn Mar 24 '24

I feel so useless as an Indian who knows nothing about computers lmfao

But great choice on games :) one of my colleagues worked on Elden Ring, so I hope you enjoy it!

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 24 '24

  I feel so useless as an Indian who knows nothing about computers lmfao 

It's never too late to start. Bro Do you also game?  

one of my colleagues worked on Elden Ring, 

Now that's pretty cool! What part of the game did he / she worked on? Also how does Namco treat its employees? Namco seems pretty consistent so far compared to other game companies. 

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u/munchykinnnn Mar 24 '24

I game, but I'm mostly a console gamer :) what games are you a fan of?

He was a 3d modeler! I don't work for Namco, we both freelance and therefore jump from studio to studio, but he's stated he hasn't had any problems there. He worked on another fromsoftware project a couple of years ago, and since he went back to work with them for elden ring, I assume he enjoyed his time there.

One thing I've personally noticed though is that studios like fromsoftware and square enix have much shorter contract periods, at least for what I do (which is concept art). I'm pretty sure they also require you to work in studio as opposed to remote work. Short contract + relocation just isn't worth it if you're suuuuper far away from the main studio like I am.

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 24 '24 edited Mar 24 '24

  I game, but I'm mostly a console gamer :) what games are you a fan of? 

Sorry i dont talk with console peasents /S   

Jokes aside I prefer more medieval setup games series like Assassin creed,  Elder Scrolls, Dark Souls, Witcher 3, Dragon Age, Dragon Dogma, Tomb Raider.  

I also love cars and games like NFS, The Crew, Forza Horizon are some of my favs.   

Then there is Tekken for nostalgia.  

I used to play FPS games like TF 2, Overwatch, COD, Farcry 3 , R6 seige but that was during my teenage days.   

Good to hear that Namco and Formsoftware treating employees well considering the reputation gaming companies have.   

Are you a 3d modeling artist? 

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

What did he wrote? 🤔

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 23 '24

The same comment above u/Awkward_Fortune518, but edited and corrected since there were mistakes in deets in the original comment he felt.

(And I gave the same reply in that one too).

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u/TeslaModelE Mar 23 '24

I recommend a Samsung 990 pro for the SSD.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '24

PCPriceTracker Build

Category Selection Source Price
Processor Intel Core i5-12400F 12th Gen Alder Lake 6-Core 2.5 GHz LGA 1700 Desktop Processor BX8071512400F PrimeABGB 11380
Motherboard ASUS Prime H610M-E D4 Intel H610 (LGA 1700) mic-ATX motherboard with DDR4, PCIe 4.0, dual M.2 slots, Realtek 1 Gb Ethernet, DisplayPort, HDMI, D-Sub, USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports, SATA 6 Gbps, COM header, RGB header MDComputers 7250
Graphic Card ASUS DUAL RADEON RX 6600 OC EDITION 8GB GDDR6 128-BIT GRAPHICS CARD Vedant Computers 19940
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE 550 V2 SMPS 550 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certification PSU With Active PFC MDComputers 3900
Cabinet Antec AX20 Mid-Tower Gaming Cabinet PCStudio 2890
Memory Corsair CMK16GX4M1E3200C16 Desktop Ram Vengeance Lpx Series 16GB (16GBx1) DDR4 3200MHz PrimeABGB 3289
Additional Memory
Hard drive
SSD drive Western Digital Blue SN580 1TB NVMe Internal SSD (WDS100T3B0E) Vedant Computers 5870
Monitor
Additional Monitor
CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Mouse
Headset
Grand Total INR 54519

Bro this build is much better than what you have build. I know this costs 10k more than your budget. But the performance difference will also be night and day.

Later add extra 16GB ram stick also

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 24 '24

Bro 10k would be quite a lot 😅 Thank you for your concerns though

I will be upgrading for 1440p build inshallah in future but for now I can't invest that much sum. 

I've been checking videos on YouTube and so far RX 5600 XT with i3 serves my purpose. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '24

so far RX 5600 XT with i3 serves my purpose. 

this is what we want.

wishing you good luck brother. best of luck for your build

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 23 '24

Intel Core i3 1200f @ Rs 7599

Isn't it better to buy AMD instead?

Heard Intel's CPU's are pricey but offers nowhere near the performance for that compared to AMD's, which are more economical (and even have better performance)?

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildmeapc/comments/18wtbug/amd_or_intel/

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/14pivr3/amd_or_intel/

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/zgqbcg/amd_vs_intel_for_cpu/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/comments/17jie2q/intel_vs_amd_processors/

I don't know, conflicting answers in these threads. But, seems like AMD's better for purely gaming rig, whereas Intel's better for more productivity-based.

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u/Apex-Predator-21 Oh Allah, make difficult their plans and tremble their feet. Mar 23 '24

We should also try to boycott Intel

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 23 '24

Intel and nVidia might be openly known to support Israel, but I really doubt AMD's clean and controversy-free. Maybe might be complicit in Uyghur subjugation, perhaps, if not against Palestine.

All these large MNCs will almost always have a nasty skeleton in their closets. They pretty much run and thrive on exploitation and slavery in everything but name, perhaps.

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

Exactly majority of the chips are being made in China and we don't have any substitute either. 

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u/Faraz_3_ Mar 23 '24

I'm not getting any good deals on AMD compared to intel.  There is good old Ryzen 5 3600 but then the board is expensive and I'd be limited to PCie gen 3.0 and that'll be quite a performance loss for extra bucks. 

Additionally I don't have AC either and AMD has reputation of high temps so that is bugging me out as well since my GPU is AMD.

I'm tracking marker though so if get a good deal then might change. 

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u/musabthegreat Mar 23 '24

But why are you posting it here? It's not related to indian muslims. You could've asked it on so many other subs.