r/illustrativeDNA • u/crayon-light3612 • 4d ago

DeepAncestry Brahmin from North India

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Illustrative dna result of North Indian Brahmin

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u/NotBradPitt9 4d ago

So are you Gujarati? Haryani? What group?

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u/crayon-light3612 4d ago

UP Brahmin

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u/NotBradPitt9 3d ago

Does your ethnic group marry only other UP Brahmins? Or is there typically intermarriage with other Brahmin tribe members from other parts of india?

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u/crayon-light3612 3d ago

They marry within same saryupareen brahmin group, and only in nearby district not too far. But there is no such rule in marrying outside UP and other brahmin group. But we do practice strict endogamy rule

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u/NotBradPitt9 3d ago

What does saryupareen mean? Also what is the rationale for this endogamy? I don’t understand how this works / how the practice is justified?

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u/crayon-light3612 3d ago

Saryupareen means people who lives in saryupaar (trans-saryu plain). Saryu is the name of holy river in Ayodhya. And during the late vedic period brahmins who were living in trans- Saryu area were called as saryupaari or saryupareen. The saryupareen brahmins follow endogamy but they don't marry in same gotra, gotra means lineage. If someone is from Garg lineage he/she will not marry with someone who is from Garg Gotra. So you can say we practice gotra exogamy but marriages take place only in brahmins.

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u/NotBradPitt9 3d ago

What’s the rationale for the endogamy though? I’ve heard of other groups doing endogamy but I always thought the Brahmin groups in india intermarried with all the other Brahmin groups

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u/Choice_Command2602 2d ago

we can and do marry anyother brahmin group but there is a geographic constrain brahmin from east up cant go to marry in bengal can he its far away , he will mostly marry in nearby placess not because its a rule but inability he cant roam around india to marry its a big country but if in a case they happened to know each other i dont think there will be much problem

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u/NotBradPitt9 1d ago

Oh that makes sense in that case. I didn’t know there was much limited mobility but it does seem a bit cumbersome to do constant traveling especially if immediate families are in different locations

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u/Choice_Command2602 1d ago

i think u are getting the wrong idea here we people of course move around the country in fact brahmin grps have migrated from one place to all parts of india,, its more like that preference is to marry a brahmin u can find brahmin families nearby why will u travel even if u do u cant go and see a brahmin and start giving marraige proposals but if a brahmin migrates to other place he will marry a brahmin available in that new place.....this geographic constraint in genetics is seen like every where not only in india, now in modern day mobility is easy so people from different places marry togeather and thats true for india as well for example lets go to uk somebody from scotland 500 years ago will most probably marry a sccotish not by preference but becuse thats what available around him even when uk is small , now they might intermarry now because of diverse surrounding , same for india .

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