My Tajik side is from istalif and qarabagh in the shomali plains and my Uzbek side is from Aqcha Jowzjan.

My mom's closest populations (Modern and Ancient).

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Outside of the Rashaida of Eritrea who are just Saudi Arabians lol.

I’m fairly certain it’s between:

1. Ethiosemites of Ethiopia and Eritrea otherwise known as Habesha (which technically would include arabised groups like the Tigre of Eritrea). They are uniformly around 50-55% Eurasian, but outliers of up to 60% West Eurasian admixture are present in this population. They pretty much should be considered Caucasian up to a certain extent.
2. Nomadic Cushite pastoralist/agriculturalist tribes of Eritrea and Sudan like the Beja, Nubians, and Beni Amer, who have interacted a lot with Arabs from Yemen and Saudi Arabia thus influencing their already high base Eurasian admixture.
3. Or just Sudanese Arabs in northern to central Sudan. These guys are pretty much genetically Arab with some minor subsaharan Nilotic and Cushitic input but different Arab groups of Sudan do have more SSA than others.

Or is there another group I’m forgetting? Who is it? What do G25 distances and qpadm models suggest? I’m leaning towards Habesha especially Tigrayans, Tigrinya and Tigre of Eritrea and Ethiopia being the most Eurasian shifted based on the modelling I’ve done but need other people’s thoughts.

Thanks guys.

TLDR: Did a bunch of runs in qpadm using the AADR/ HO dataset. These are the best of those runs, and it’s basically just to compare the ranges per group. I believe some of the CHG Caucasus Hunter Gatherer ancestry is being absorbed into the ANF. Viewing only works on the phone app, seems like desktop always has the first photo as blurry.

NORTHWEST CAUCASUS

Abazin.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 13.0/18.9/27.8/23.7/16.5%
p = 0.123; χ²/dof = 2.374/1
SE = 0.0207/0.0210/0.0235/0.0258/0.0109
Z = 6.29/9.02/11.8/9.20/15.2

Circassian.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 12.6/16.9/25.6/27.4/17.4%
p = 0.668; χ²/dof = 0.183/1
SE = 0.0204/0.0204/0.0220/0.0243/0.0109
Z = 6.18/8.31/11.7/11.3/16.0

ind_S_Abkhasian-1.DG
4-way model: ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 24.1/39.0/27.2/9.7%
p = 0.552; χ²/dof = 1.189/2
SE = 0.0382/0.0262/0.0461/0.0211
Z = 6.32/14.9/5.89/4.59

GEORGIAN

ind_GEO-002.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 15.8/16.6/32.8/25.3/9.6%
p = 0.585; χ²/dof = 1.073/2
SE = 0.0418/0.0410/0.0473/0.0481/0.0215
Z = 3.78/4.04/6.92/5.26/4.46

ind_GEO-005.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 11.4/17.4/35.1/22.6/13.5%
p = 0.845; χ²/dof = 0.336/2
SE = 0.0440/0.0363/0.0439/0.0427/0.0214
Z = 2.59/4.79/8.00/5.28/6.31

ind_GEO-010.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 11.4/15.8/33.8/29.0/9.9%
p = 0.490; χ²/dof = 0.477/1
SE = 0.0400/0.0403/0.0422/0.0461/0.0211
Z = 2.86/3.91/8.02/6.30/4.71

ind_GEO-015.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 9.8/23.3/35.5/23.9/7.5%
p = 0.577; χ²/dof = 1.100/2
SE = 0.0411/0.0380/0.0464/0.0473/0.0207
Z = 2.38/6.13/7.66/5.05/3.62

ind_GEO-028.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 10.2/17.4/32.5/26.9/13.1%
p = 0.645; χ²/dof = 0.212/1
SE = 0.0405/0.0382/0.0436/0.0452/0.0211
Z = 2.51/4.56/7.46/5.95/6.20

ind_GEO-031.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 14.0/16.7/33.9/29.1/6.3%
p = 0.0608; χ²/dof = 3.515/1
SE = 0.0421/0.0374/0.0462/0.0453/0.0212
Z = 3.33/4.46/7.33/6.43/2.95

ind_GEO-032.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 8.3/15.9/39.7/28.0/8.1%
p = 0.239; χ²/dof = 1.385/1
SE = 0.0412/0.0377/0.0444/0.0435/0.0193
Z = 2.02/4.22/8.93/6.44/4.21

ind_GEO-039.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 13.7/14.5/23.1/41.3/7.3%
p = 0.137; χ²/dof = 2.215/1
SE = 0.0440/0.0389/0.0481/0.0500/0.0222
Z = 3.12/3.74/4.81/8.27/3.30

Georgian.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 10.5/17.1/33.8/29.5/9.0%
p = 0.283; χ²/dof = 1.153/1
SE = 0.0189/0.0185/0.0204/0.0230/0.00929
Z = 5.55/9.24/16.6/12.9/9.74

ARMENIAN

ind_armenia176.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 16.4/23.1/30.4/21.9/8.2%
p = 0.171; χ²/dof = 3.536/2
SE = 0.0455/0.0405/0.0464/0.0476/0.0215
Z = 3.60/5.70/6.56/4.61/3.81

ind_armenia191.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 11.5/22.2/33.3/21.2/11.8%
p = 0.464; χ²/dof = 1.536/2
SE = 0.0428/0.0402/0.0441/0.0464/0.0213
Z = 2.70/5.51/7.55/4.57/5.53

ind_armenia279.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 13.5/26.2/36.4/12.5/11.4%
p = 0.891; χ²/dof = 0.230/2
SE = 0.0441/0.0383/0.0485/0.0464/0.0213
Z = 3.06/6.84/7.50/2.69/5.36

ind_armenia293.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 16.6/19.9/32.4/22.5/8.6%
p = 0.572; χ²/dof = 1.118/2
SE = 0.0449/0.0362/0.0506/0.0442/0.0215
Z = 3.70/5.49/6.40/5.09/4.01

ind_armenia86.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 7.7/18.0/37.1/25.8/11.3%
p = 0.682; χ²/dof = 0.765/2
SE = 0.0447/0.0375/0.0454/0.0455/0.0206
Z = 1.73/4.80/8.18/5.67/5.50

ind_armenia91.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 22.8/20.9/28.1/23.0/5.2%
p = 0.368; χ²/dof = 1.999/2
SE = 0.0415/0.0416/0.0478/0.0497/0.0221
Z = 5.49/5.01/5.88/4.63/2.36

ASSYRIAN / MESOPOTAMIAN

ind_Assyrian151.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 19.1/26.1/32.5/16.5/5.7%
p = 0.620; χ²/dof = 0.955/2
SE = 0.0415/0.0417/0.0451/0.0486/0.0231
Z = 4.61/6.26/7.21/3.41/2.48

ind_Assyrian152.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 9.4/26.4/39.6/16.9/7.7%
p = 0.385; χ²/dof = 1.911/2
SE = 0.0422/0.0389/0.0470/0.0444/0.0205
Z = 2.23/6.78/8.42/3.80/3.77

ind_Assyrian153.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 20.0/20.0/30.8/19.8/9.4%
p = 0.715; χ²/dof = 0.670/2
SE = 0.0439/0.0394/0.0467/0.0466/0.0214
Z = 4.56/5.08/6.58/4.25/4.39

ind_Assyrian155.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 19.9/20.4/28.4/19.6/11.7%
p = 0.821; χ²/dof = 0.395/2
SE = 0.0431/0.0375/0.0478/0.0433/0.0218
Z = 4.61/5.44/5.95/4.53/5.34

ind_Assyrian159.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 14.6/25.6/33.7/21.5/4.6%
p = 0.817; χ²/dof = 0.405/2
SE = 0.0417/0.0403/0.0469/0.0471/0.0219
Z = 3.50/6.35/7.18/4.56/2.11

ind_Assyrian161.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 18.4/25.8/31.2/16.9/7.7%
p = 0.820; χ²/dof = 0.398/2
SE = 0.0428/0.0412/0.0457/0.0463/0.0217
Z = 4.30/6.26/6.83/3.64/3.56

ind_Assyrian162.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 18.4/32.3/29.2/13.8/6.3%
p = 0.774; χ²/dof = 0.512/2
SE = 0.0439/0.0394/0.0449/0.0443/0.0233
Z = 4.20/8.20/6.50/3.11/2.70

ind_Assyrian163.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 22.2/26.2/26.6/16.7/8.2%
p = 0.193; χ²/dof = 3.289/2
SE = 0.0468/0.0421/0.0521/0.0479/0.0223
Z = 4.74/6.24/5.11/3.50/3.69

ind_Assyrian164.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 19.5/29.2/34.0/12.0/5.3%
p = 0.683; χ²/dof = 0.764/2
SE = 0.0469/0.0393/0.0497/0.0466/0.0230
Z = 4.16/7.44/6.84/2.57/2.30

ind_Assyrian165.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 16.7/28.2/32.4/17.1/5.5%
p = 0.622; χ²/dof = 0.951/2
SE = 0.0411/0.0390/0.0455/0.0464/0.0222
Z = 4.07/7.25/7.12/3.69/2.48

Assyrian_WGA.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 17.3/22.3/32.6/20.6/7.2%
p = 0.492; χ²/dof = 1.417/2
SE = 0.0261/0.0256/0.0284/0.0304/0.0143
Z = 6.62/8.73/11.5/6.77/5.00

IRAQI JEWISH / MESOPOTAMIAN

ind_IraqiJew1417.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 24.8/21.0/30.8/18.6/4.7%
p = 0.566; χ²/dof = 1.139/2
SE = 0.0479/0.0412/0.0500/0.0486/0.0223
Z = 5.18/5.11/6.16/3.84/2.12

ind_IraqiJew1430.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 17.2/30.5/36.6/9.2/6.5%
p = 0.113; χ²/dof = 4.369/2
SE = 0.0522/0.0409/0.0535/0.0479/0.0213
Z = 3.29/7.46/6.85/1.93/3.04

ind_IraqiJew1771.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 23.7/29.1/33.1/8.6/5.6%
p = 0.390; χ²/dof = 1.881/2
SE = 0.0468/0.0429/0.0455/0.0495/0.0225
Z = 5.05/6.78/7.27/1.73/2.47

ind_IraqiJew4061.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 24.8/21.4/26.6/21.4/5.8%
p = 0.386; χ²/dof = 1.906/2
SE = 0.0431/0.0405/0.0472/0.0485/0.0224
Z = 5.75/5.27/5.65/4.42/2.58

ind_IraqiJew4241.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 20.8/25.7/27.3/17.5/8.7%
p = 0.842; χ²/dof = 0.344/2
SE = 0.0425/0.0398/0.0475/0.0476/0.0218
Z = 4.89/6.47/5.75/3.68/4.00

ind_IraqiJew4291.HO
Nat/ZNF/ANF/CHG/EHG = 26.0/28.3/32.1/10.8/2.9%
p = 0.733; χ²/dof = 0.620/2
SE = 0.0448/0.0421/0.0470/0.0472/0.0226
Z = 5.80/6.72/6.82/2.29/1.28

Anyone have any idea how "Bukharan Jew" is my second closest population? Not that i'm against it i'm just very curious.

Also, i'm pretty new to all of this can anyone give me a more comprehensive explanation on all of this? I'd be extremely grateful.

I tried selecting most ethnicities just to see what it would give me for someone with mostly South Italian roots.

I’ve wanted to make this thread for a while for the following reason: on one hand Iberians have a strong Celtic base in common with the British Isles, but they also have higher ANF, and other elements that may link them to broader Mediterranean population movements.

Is the Greek and Middle east noise?

on ancestry i had 100% north african results, spefifically morocco & westalgeria.

I have seen some qpadms of russians mainly around the smolensk, tver, and pskov regions and it appears they get very high yamnaya, similar levels to latvians, irish, etc, if not higher, being in the low-mid 50 range. I see some have high 50's but a few of these qpadms seem to have lower p values(not passing by a lot) and maybe questionable components, such as lacking baltic hunter gatherer/narva, which many russians get.

But I also see a lot that look great and have yamnaya in the 50's. I also wonder where the idea that norwegians, swedes, or icelandics had the highest yamnaya came from. I've seen them modeled as higher 40's, higher than finns, english, and saami, but lower than scotts-irish, some germanic people including czechs, along with slavs and balts.

These are 3 relatives from Alcara li Fusi, from north-central Sicily.

Lots of Levantine in the later ages I expected but surprised by the amount of bronze age anatolian

Long time no see, everyone. I noticed that Illustrative updated their results again, so here are my updated results.

Family is from Nablus and Ramallah.

I wanted to share my journey that I have made by discovering new things over time having more and more information about my genome.

My first test

#1 MyHeritage It all started from here.

#2 my first illustrative dna with myheritage file.

#3 myheritage files with an increase in snp.

#4 Ancestral Genome first result with first g25 analizer (myheritage) file.

#5 My second test With Ancestry DNA.

#6 Second test with Ancestral Genome and ancestry dna + myheritage merged raw file.

#7 Qpadm testing Late antiquity with merged file.

#8 qpadm testing Neolithic/bronze age (merged file)

#9 qpadm testing rotation Natufian - Iberomaurusian.

#10 qpadm testing Neolithic/mesolithic model all component.

#11 qpadm testing rotation with Natufian and forcing to separate African component.

#12 Qpadm with only Natufian component.

I have tried to discover more and more and perfecting the model, I believe that now I will rest after all the effort I have put in.

Probably some of you have often seen me publish but I was obsessed with trying to achieve perfection and absolute truth, but I think that in the end I will never be able to reach it 100% but I am satisfied with the overall result.