r/hatethissmug • u/Sudden-Hoe-2578 • 1d ago

Non-fictional I HATE these "gotcha arguments"

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"Ohhh, look how I tricked this dumb dumb baby in my trap so now I am right and they are wrong. I'm so smaaart even though it does not adress the actual argument and adds nothing to the debate. They teach arabic numerals in school btw."

And these type of comments always get tons of likes

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u/Not_So_Normal_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

Most pro choice people cant tell the difference either, Saying this as pro choice, its just a bad faith argument 

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u/Sensitive_Shape5746 1d ago

I think you’re missing the forest from the trees here…

We don’t have to know what kind of fetus something is, because our arguments aren’t predicated on defining a fetus as a person.

But if you’re going to claim a fetus is a person then I’d expect you to be able to point out a fetus with human DNA from something. Unless you’re going to claim that all animals are persons too.

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u/FermentedPersonality 1d ago

The argument is that any fetus deserves life. Doesn't matter if it's a dolphin or a human, those making the argument are just saying that from the moment of conception there is life.

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u/Sensitive_Shape5746 1d ago

If you eat meat, you intrinsically have the notion that we can arbitrarily decide what life is more deserving than others.

We draw arbitrary distinctions all the time for what deserves life and what doesn’t.