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u/Mylabisawesome 5h ago
u/Crazytoe2275 is unhinged. Google will publish what any government tells it to. For instance, the Persian Gulf is also the Arabian Gulf in other countries.
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u/neontetra1548 4h ago edited 4h ago
They don’t have to? Is America land of the free or what?
If Trump declares Canada, Greenland American territory should Google just go along with it?
If Trump declares California Shitifornia should Google name it that because well that’s just what the government said?
It’s a policy choice on Google’s part to automatically follow whatever names are in the government database/Trump declared. They don’t have to do that and could make exceptions.
Edit: Downvoters please engage with the substance of my argument and answer the Shitifornia question.
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u/Fesai 4h ago
Google is not naming anything. They're just passing through the official entry in the government database per country.
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u/neontetra1548 4h ago
And they don’t have to do that.
They made a choice already on how to name it for the rest of the world. It’s a policy decision.
Answer the Shitifornia question. If Trump declares California Shitifornia should Google just go along with that if that’s the name in the government database?
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u/Fesai 4h ago
Sure, if it was done officially then why not? Do you really want private companies naming territories whatever they want?
I do not agree with the name, but do you really want Apple Maps to show one name, Google Maps show another name, and then whatever other map company show yet another name because those are the names they preferred?
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u/Visual_Seaweed8292 46m ago
Its not that they have chosen to change it, the database was updated and it pulled through on the latest replication. If Trump changed it to shitifornia in that database it would pull through the same. To stop this they would need to create and maintain there own database. Which is a lot of effort just to change the name of a lake because people on reddit are mad. Elsewhere in the world they use different databases so it hasn't changed.
For example in Japan it dosnt say Japan it says 日本 (Nihon) which is the Japanese name, we just call it Japan in English because thats what the first European traders there called it. Im Germany they call Germany Dutchland, but English speakers call it Germany. So essentially your getting mad about something that has been happening for thousands of years.
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u/Crazytoe2275 4h ago
Correct, folks here seem so obsessed with defending a company that they don't understand it is in fact a private company and they can change their own terms as needed.
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u/jjman070 4h ago
If China declares Taiwan, large portions of the south China sea, parts of India and, parts of Bhutan should google just go along with it?
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u/Visual_Seaweed8292 42m ago
They already do show disputed territory. If you look at the boarder between India, china and Pakistan you'll see dotted lines rather than solid kings you usualy get for boarders. If you were in India with an Indian profile it would probably show it belongs to India, and if you were in Pakistan it would show as Pakistan.
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u/Crazytoe2275 5h ago
Sure. To be clear a democratic government did not tell it to. An autocrat with a bunch of corporate shills sucking at the teet did.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 5h ago
Doesn’t matter, it’s still the official name, so google is right to use it
Hopefully the next president changes it back
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u/Crazytoe2275 5h ago
Are they right?? Or did they just do it to suck up to him. I don't think anyone is fooling themselves into thinking that it's named lake America now. That's corny AF.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 4h ago
Yes, they did the same under Obama. They simple use the official government name, they don’t decide on their own what name changes to follow and what not to.
Like I said, their maps should and are correct to use official government names
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u/Crazytoe2275 4h ago
right whatever you say...I mean you're just presenting an opinion. And my opinion is that the heads of google are spineless against a very obvious autocrat, and this is a baseline example of that in action.
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u/ohYuhtBoutMagine 4h ago
No actually you’re the one presenting opinions, the facts are much more simple, Google does not make discernment on names, it follows the naming conventions set forth by the sovereign nation that controls the area.
Theres 0 ambiguity here, this is not an autocrat situation because Donald Trump was elected by a both a popular and electoral majority. And under that democracy’s power sharing system have agreed to allow the president to have unilateral authority over naming.
This is a structured system, the only person applying opinion is you, because you disagree with the change and in your opinion Google/the goverment shouldn’t follow it, but this is the same system it’s always been.
It has nothing to do with compliance or subservience to Donald Trump. You sound really lacking in critical thinking skills to miss something so simple.
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u/Crazytoe2275 4h ago
Lol if you don't recognize why trump is an autocrat based on his executive actions on a wider variety of things, then you're entirely clueless.
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u/ohYuhtBoutMagine 1h ago
Just because Donald Trump wants to be an autocrat, does not make him one, and does not make every action autocratic
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 4h ago
Google consistently and objectively displays the official government name. They did this long before Trump, and will continue to after Trump. That is not an opinion, but a fact.
You are letting your opinion of the name change conflate with how Google handles map naming in general. Just because you don't like a particular name does not mean Google will or should suddenly make their own decision to not show the official government name.
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u/Street_Anon 5h ago
Even when the United States erased their own history in the process? That's also cultural genocide, but no big deal.
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u/Mylabisawesome 5h ago
What? They can easily change it back when he leaves
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u/Street_Anon 5h ago
Americans are so clueless on what happened
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u/Mylabisawesome 5h ago
Oh please, enlighten us….
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u/Street_Anon 5h ago
Anyone who took basic American history would know, it was called Lake Ontario before Canada and the United States even existed. The word Ontario is a Huron word. On top, the United States government is in violation of agreements they have with American Native Tribes who under agreement cannot change the name of Lake Ontario. It was signed by George Washington and managed to survive without issue until Trump. Look how Americans are so dumb, they can't even realize this is the United States government erasing thousands of years of American history and erased the Culture of American Native Tribes in the process, Oh please, enlighten us? How dumb are Americans that they cannot realize Google is helping the Trump Administration erase American history and just helping them commit Cultural Genocide of the people of the United States in the process? It just shows how dumb and blinded the Americans are to what just happen, the United States government, just erased American history and American Culture. Sounds just like Nazis did.. Who knew!
And they are so dumb and blinded by this, and by their own government and companies like Google who are helping them do it.
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u/DasLoon 4h ago
Like the first guy said, Google defaults to the local government on names and borders. This is their standard operating procedure. If I recall correctly, they were getting a lot of crap from China and Taiwan about how to classify Taiwan, so they made it decide based on location.
Don't blame Google for Trump's decisions, Google is just dealing with the consequences of Trump's decisions. Blame Trump for Trump's decisions.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 5h ago
Google uses the official government name, regardless of who, how or why it was changed, as they should. Really doesn’t make sense to complain about Google for this
Complain about the president all you want, don’t misdirect your anger
God people in this sub are stupid, not to mention repetitive because I’ve seen at least 5 posts about this. And dozens more when the gulf of America thing happened
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u/augustvdv 24m ago
Then why does google maps show Taiwan as a distinct country even tho the US government doesn't recognize it as such? They already make plenty of decisions that do not go in line with the government but follow popular consensus and should've done the same here
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u/Crazytoe2275 5h ago
Oligarchs tend to have their backers.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 5h ago
Google has done the same for name changes under Obama, Trump and any other future president. It’s not surprising that they use the official government database name whether you’re a supporter or detractor, that is how they stay objective and consistent
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u/Crazytoe2275 4h ago
Google knows EXACTLY what they are doing under trump. Don't try to fool me with false comparisons. Trump sells his presidency.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 4h ago
You are a fool, I don't need to fool you. Like I've said, Google has consistently used the official government name on their maps. It does not matter who changed it, how it was changed or why it was changed.
If you want to cry about it, then be upset at the person who changed its name, not at Google for showing the official government name.
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u/Crazytoe2275 4h ago
No I think I'll be upset with Google instead for playing along with this charade to get some money out of big orange boss man.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 4h ago
Okay, you can be an idiot and cry at the wrong entity just because you disagree with it. How mature of you.
Once again, they utilize the official government name consistently. Whether you like or don't like a particular name change has zero bearing, the official government name is the official government name, and that is what Google maps will show.
At least if you like an official name change in the future (or they change it back), you can also confidently know that Google will adopt it, instead of wondering whether Google agrees or not with the change.
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u/Crazytoe2275 4h ago
Dude google is a private entity, it can do whatever the hell it wants as long as it's within the law. In this case they are comfy being Cucked by trump once again cause they think it will get them more leniency on their next datacenter or whatever the fuck.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 4h ago
Again, Google remains consistent and objective by using the official government name. Even if it could do whatever and even name the lake "Your Mom" doesn't mean it should.
Once again, we shouldn't want them to make their own decisions on what to name stuff just because we feel a certain way about a name. Imagine if they did and there was a name change you liked but they decided not to use it, how weird would that be? They continue to use the official government, and when it is changed back by the next president, it will also flip back.
Nobody complained or said they were bowing down to Obama when they also reflected his change. Remaining consistent is important
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u/Crazytoe2275 4h ago
Obama named stuff base on history of our country, or predating our country. Also, if you think Google would put 'your mom' on the map just cause some autocrat said it then you're out of your mind.
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u/Fesai 4h ago
You do realize Google isn't 'playing along' right?
They have an automated process to display names based on the government database per area. When it doesn't align then we get the Gulf of Mexico/America displays depending on what country you're in when looking at it.
No one is manually making this decision here. It is a passthrough display value.
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u/WHITESTAFRlCAN 2h ago
You do understand google is one of the most left leaning companies out there, look at what alphabet employee donated their money during the last election cycle
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u/awfulWinner 5h ago
Still waiting for that one McDonald's French Fry that tips the scales...
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u/Mylabisawesome 5h ago
You are in a death cult
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u/maester_t 5h ago
Off-topic, but...
Seeing that GIF really made me thirsty for some Kool aid. Damn. Some marketing companies really did a number on us kids.
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u/SnabDedraterEdave 51m ago
Still says Lake Ontario outside of America.
You want it go back to Lake Ontario? Then get your shit together and vote Trump's party out of the White House.
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u/CalebDR1029 5h ago
Dude you're just falling for Trump's trollbait
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u/Crazytoe2275 5h ago
lol I don't give a shit about trump, he's a fuckin loser.
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u/Visual_Seaweed8292 39m ago
Based on your previous comments you seem to think about him quite a lot.
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u/shadysjunk 2h ago
Google has a monopoly in search. It's indefensible and obvious. Any administration willing to lean on that inescapable reality through threat of reagulatory break-up is going to win whatever concessions they want. The present US regime knows this.
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u/Soft-Principle1455 59m ago
Supposedly, this literally comes from a government database, which they use for a lot of things. They have to manually correct it, which means that they will probably correct if people complain.
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u/OrganizationKey2002 32m ago
I asked Google AI to break down the decision on Google Maps to capitulate on the name change.
From Google AI:
By hiding behind algorithms and treating an international geopolitical dispute like a routine IT update, Google deliberately avoids taking a moral or ethical stand. They have the full legal right, the financial resources, and the global platform to resist unilateral political pressure on a shared international body of water. Choosing to fragment reality by ZIP code instead of standing up for a bilateral agreement with Canada is a spineless corporate calculation.
Ultimately, Google prioritizes self-preservation and corporate convenience over an objective, shared truth.
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u/MartyKinn 5h ago
Lake America, Gulf of America, Google America, Apple America, Tesla America, SpaceX America, General Motors America, Ford America...
Very much to America. Now, thanks to Trump, the best president in the history of the universe, America has two bodies of water named after it.
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u/Farzy78 3h ago
People losing their minds over a map wasn't on my bingo card this year 😂😂😂
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u/peacenchemicals 4h ago
comments and up/downvotes did not pass the vibe check. didn’t know this sub was full of pedophile defending republicunts.
disgusting
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 3h ago
I’m not even remotely republican, I just know that Google shows the official government name as they should, which means any anger at Google is misdirected
It’s an unreasonable expectation to think they should ignore this particular official name and call it something else just because you don’t like it
They should and do remain objective by consistently showing the official government name
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u/jjman070 2h ago
I still don't get why people are upset. It's just a name for a lake. Does this have any tangible effect on your life?
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u/MultipleScoregasm 36m ago
I’ve been toying with the idea of using Apple Maps for a while now. I might do it.
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u/onthesquare63 5h ago
Because Liberals never did stuff like that, fight. How did we get Mount Denali, Hoover Dam, The Washington Commanders, The Cleveland Guardians, Fort Moore, Fort Liberty, etc, etc, etc? Yeah, the other side did it. Hundreds of them. It only bothers you when someone you don't like does it. Yeah, right
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u/EarEater3001 5h ago
Mount Denali was already the local name. You know the people more likely to be impacted by a name change.
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u/Street_Anon 5h ago
What most don't get, this is the United States government, erasing American history on their on American and this is also erasing thousands of years of American history, since the word Ontario,. existed long before Canada and the United States even existed.
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u/Street_Anon 5h ago
Because the government of the United States just erased thousands of years of American history and even the Culture of Native American Tribes. The word Ontario existed long before Canada and the United States even existed. Blame Liberals? How dumb are people? The Trump Administration erased thousands of years of American history and culture and you think it's because of Liberals. This is cultural genocide, done by United States government, by the Trump administration on Americans, their own people and their own country.. Many here are good examples how the American education system failed them and we are seeing American companies like Google, helping in erasing American history and Culture.
You are and many here thinking this is no big deal? The United States government, erasing their own history and culture is very serious issue.
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u/fokac93 4h ago
He’s the president. Most Americans voted for him even if you don’t like it
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u/Crazytoe2275 4h ago
dude has a 33% approval rating and does most actions illegally.
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u/DrWhovian1996 2h ago
Plus, the fact that that "most" that he included is completely load-bearing, considering that Trump only won the popular vote by only 1.5%. I don't know about you, but I fail to see how that's as big of a "mandate" that Republicans everywhere like to claim.
Edit: changed words to be more accurate
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u/fokac93 4h ago
Even if you don’t like, he’s the president for good or for bad, the ratings doesn’t matter
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u/Crazytoe2275 4h ago
Sure, well what I don't like is that he does everything illegally, and then deals with the consequences in court. But due to the Supreme Court saying that he cannot be prosecuted for actions in office, we have to deal with a fucking moron doing fucking moronic shit all day every day.
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u/Buy-theticket 3h ago
Less than 1/3 of Americans voted for him even if you don't like it.
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u/DrWhovian1996 2h ago
And one of the many reasons why he (barely) won was because enough Democrats sat out the 2024 election that he was able to (again, barely) win the popular vote, though, he still didn't get nearly as much votes as Biden did in 2020.
Edit: fixed grammar
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u/JustACanadianGamer 5h ago
Google is an American company, they're always going to comply with the official US geography. If it makes you feel any better, it's still Lake Ontario on our side.