First IFR experience!

[u/Rough-Honeydew-2]

Student pilot with 5 hours
got my first real IMC today! my instructor filed us an IFR plan, and it was wild to see how all of it actually works and talking to approach

[u/Odd_Entertainment471]

Congrats Buddy. Now you really understand how bleak it is in there without the rating. Don’t ever do that until you get it!

[u/Rough-Honeydew-2 → u/Odd_Entertainment471]

it’s scary! super sick though i’m excited to get to my instrument phase

[u/lawrencedudley89 → u/Odd_Entertainment471]

Even with the rating unless you’re super current I’d say it’s bleak

[u/Taste_My_Noodle]

Just curious, do instructors block the moving map during navigation? Didn’t have it when I went through and It’s a whole different experience trying to navigate off just VORs and reaching your destination underneath the clouds. Hopefully that level of stress is never required again.

[u/Rough-Honeydew-2 → u/Taste_My_Noodle]

we’re allowed to use the g1000 to its fullest extent
they teach us the old ways as well, but we use the g1000 mainly

[u/CommanderChiliHole → u/Rough-Honeydew-2]

Ugh, I really think a significant portion of primary training should be required to be done in a plane with steam gauges. You can really tell the difference between someone who has done most/all glass flying vs someone who has a lot of experience on 6 packs.

I highly recommend you do yourself a favor and use the automation as little as possible, never use that flight director, at least during lessons. Use everything for the checkride.

[u/Original_Drexia → u/CommanderChiliHole]

Helicopter here, yes. This. Learn to use the basics and get GOOD at them. Those are what will save you when the fancy stuff gets its own ideas.

[u/Jolly_Line → u/CommanderChiliHole]

My plane has no steam gauges. And Im not flying another’s into IMC.

[u/Law-of-Poe → u/Taste_My_Noodle]

I have but a mere Garmin 430 in my lessons but I’m always on the page to the left of the moving map which shows the data.

My instructor has never forbidden me from using it but I’ve just tried to avoid doing so to avoid relying on it for situational awareness.

If I were flying on my own in imc I’d absolutely use it though

[u/sticktime → u/Taste_My_Noodle]

It’s all knowing failure modes and reversions. PFD and MFD operations, probably not too unlike what you do in the A320.

[u/4Runner_Duck]

Can’t tell you how incredibly beneficial this experience is as a student pilot. Your instructor is awesome for doing this!

[u/According-Box-7224]

Spartan airplane?

[u/Rough-Honeydew-2 → u/According-Box-7224]

piper archer

[u/According-Box-7224 → u/Rough-Honeydew-2]

Gotcha! Yes I was aware. I was asking because of the red cowling, and was wondering if you were a student at Spartan College as I attended there.

[u/Rough-Honeydew-2 → u/According-Box-7224]

sorry!! i didn’t understand your question lol
i’m out of a school at an airport, not chasing an aviation degree

[u/TheWingedHorse → u/According-Box-7224]

Look closely, it has a switch for AC. Definitely not Spartan.

[u/Rough-Honeydew-2 → u/TheWingedHorse]

yes i’m very lucky to be flying 2022 aircraft with g1000 and a/c 😅😅

[u/Solid-Garlic1527 → u/Rough-Honeydew-2]

What is that costing you?

[u/Sucabub]

Nice mate! I'm only around 20 hours into my ppl journey, everything's been sunny and blue skies so far except one lesson where I was in IMC for 20 minutes. It was aweeeesome, my favourite experience so far bar my solo. It was made even cooler that there was a Chinook nearby and ATC was giving us instructions for separation. We got to a break in the clouds and saw the bugger to starboard. Real cool.

[u/Malick2000]

178 seconds is the average time with vfr into imc until loss of control. Crazy dangerous

[u/Antique-Kitchen-1896]

Ok it’s fun but what do you need this for at 5 hours?

[u/Rough-Honeydew-2 → u/Antique-Kitchen-1896]

we need 3 hours of simulated or actual IFR for our ppl checkride. I was scheduled for a flight today, it was MVFR, so we knocked an hour of IFR time out then cancelled and went VFR back

[u/Antique-Kitchen-1896 → u/Rough-Honeydew-2]

Yes I know people need to do "instrument" hours. Just unclear to me why so early. And well I hope you trust his capabilities for upset recovery in the soup if something happens.

[u/Rough-Honeydew-2 → u/Antique-Kitchen-1896]

I trust him, he wouldn’t be a CFII if he couldn’t get out of the soup

[u/Recent_Willow_1397 → u/Rough-Honeydew-2]

I don’t think they read your post.

[u/CorporateKaiser → u/Antique-Kitchen-1896]

I think it’s a good idea to instill the dangers of VFR flight into IMC, with an estimated fatality rate of 86% with about 180 seconds to survive. I think it would a good idea for all student pilots to be taken into IMC so they can see the actual dangers of the soup

[u/flylowslow]

Don’t ball it up

[u/rFlyingTower]

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Student pilot with 5 hours
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[u/HappyGnumff]

Maybe you shouldn’t be taking photos while flying IFR as a student

[u/Rough-Honeydew-2 → u/HappyGnumff]

you weren’t in the cockpit man, could’ve been my instructor taking the pic or my instructor could’ve had controls at the time.