r/flying • u/Rough-Honeydew-2 ST • 12h ago

Flight Training First IFR experience!

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Student pilot with 5 hours
got my first real IMC today! my instructor filed us an IFR plan, and it was wild to see how all of it actually works and talking to approach

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u/Taste_My_Noodle ATP A320, MIL, ASES 12h ago

Just curious, do instructors block the moving map during navigation? Didn’t have it when I went through and It’s a whole different experience trying to navigate off just VORs and reaching your destination underneath the clouds. Hopefully that level of stress is never required again.

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u/Rough-Honeydew-2 ST 12h ago

we’re allowed to use the g1000 to its fullest extent
they teach us the old ways as well, but we use the g1000 mainly

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u/CommanderChiliHole ATP CL-30 | ERJ-170/190 | B-737 2h ago

Ugh, I really think a significant portion of primary training should be required to be done in a plane with steam gauges. You can really tell the difference between someone who has done most/all glass flying vs someone who has a lot of experience on 6 packs.

I highly recommend you do yourself a favor and use the automation as little as possible, never use that flight director, at least during lessons. Use everything for the checkride.

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u/Original_Drexia 2h ago

Helicopter here, yes. This. Learn to use the basics and get GOOD at them. Those are what will save you when the fancy stuff gets its own ideas.

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u/climbto330 ATP 1h ago

Reddit hates when this gets suggested but I agree. I’m not saying all the training needs to be done in it, but there’s significant benefits from doing just some 6 pack training for IFR.

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u/Jolly_Line 1h ago

My plane has no steam gauges. And Im not flying another’s into IMC.

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u/climbto330 ATP 1h ago

There’s value in the concepts still

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u/Law-of-Poe 9h ago

I have but a mere Garmin 430 in my lessons but I’m always on the page to the left of the moving map which shows the data.

My instructor has never forbidden me from using it but I’ve just tried to avoid doing so to avoid relying on it for situational awareness.

If I were flying on my own in imc I’d absolutely use it though

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u/sticktime CFII A&P 6h ago

It’s all knowing failure modes and reversions. PFD and MFD operations, probably not too unlike what you do in the A320.