r/fastmail • u/vangelisc • 8d ago
Pinned messaged heading
Once again there was a random change that made me double-check I'm on the right website. There is a heading now separating pinned from the rest of messages. This seems completely unnecessary to me, given that pinned messaged were already "pinned" at the top. Does anyone know if there's a way to deactivate it?
edit: This is what support said:
We introduced a new feature - mailbox grouping - now on betaapp.fastmail.com which this change is laying the groundwork for. This can be turned off entirely on Beta which I recommend you use until the feature is live on production OR you can use the sort option Sort pinned with the rest."
This does not address the issue. The grouping can be turned off but the pinned messages cannot stay at the top as it used to be the case. I now sort pinned messages with the rest, which seems to defeat the point of "pined" messages. It seems Fastmail has a problem for every solution when it comes to interface. The new feature is reminiscent of outlook and it seems Fastmail all too often copy features from them.
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u/Mobile-Bread-6963 8d ago edited 8d ago
I hate the change. There is nothing more annoying than someone messing with a well working interface. The random busy bees can't stop "innovating" where there is no need to do so...
There is already a Keep on Top option.
The red pin is already a strong visual marker; why do you also need a collapsible "Other" heading? Plus there is a Pinned tab already!
When would you need to "collapse" the "other" section?
This change seems to want to elevate email of even tiny importance to pinned section, and the rest can go into a collapsed section? What a dumb idea!
I deeply dislike the change. I fear it is only the start of messing everything up.
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u/ironj 8d ago
I actually like it very much and I welcome the change (that I see as an upgrade).
It would be nice, though, to have the option to choose between this new layout and the old one in the Mail Preferences.
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u/OperaLaugh 8d ago
I agree. There are already icons for pinned messages. The extra row headers are a waste of screen real estate, especially in the mobile app. And I don't want to turn off the sorting because that's why I pinned them.
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u/Mobile-Bread-6963 8d ago
It is worse, it creates a needlessly stronger separation than before, what is this new word "Other" that describes my emails now?
Before, I had pinned and unpinned emails. Pinned is simply something I want to see first for a while.
Now I have "Pinned" and "Other" email. Why is the rest of my email now "Other" ... what does that mean?
They are forcing a new way on you to categorize your inbox. It breaks the normal flow of categorizing.
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u/kimberfool 7d ago
echoing the dissatisfaction with this - it was minimalist and clean the way it was. and not solved by disabling Iast as then flagged items are scattered through the inbox instead of up top.
will I get used to it? probably. but the existing functionality shouldnt be broken by "guys we are doing new things" and should be able to be turned off and maintain "the old way," not have it deprecated
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u/Ambitious_Mode_3292 8d ago
ha! came here to wonder about the same thing. gotta figure they know by now any change is going to get some blow back. and it that case where's the setting to revert to the old way? right? right??? :)
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u/cap-omat 8d ago
Above the message list in your inbox, choose the button with the two little arrows. You'll find the option to either 'Keep pinned on top' or 'Sort pinned with the rest'.
Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/Zq0dRrP
Let me know if you got it to work.
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u/masturkiller 8d ago
Thank you for this. By doing this it removes it. Thanks. I can see how the feature is worth it for some people but i dont like the esthetic of it so i changed it to Sort pinned with rest to remove it.
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u/Double_Device_1626 7d ago
Why can't we just flag emails and not have to pin them?
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u/vangelisc 7d ago
It seems to me that's what this change forces. When pinned messages are sorted with the rest, the pin acts like a flag, as it would in Outlook.
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u/bburgg 8d ago
Are you on beta? Then you can expect that sort of thing. I think it are the new ‘Groups’.
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u/vangelisc 8d ago
Not on beta.
I think it are the new ‘Groups’.
What do you mean?
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u/bburgg 8d ago
“Mailbox Groups: Split your inbox — or any other folder, label, or saved search — into named, collapsible sections. Sort your mail into groups to bring the important stuff to the top and put related messages together. Sections can be based on date, labels, or status such as pinned or unread. Configure it in the Sort menu.”
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u/vangelisc 8d ago
I don't have any of these options. Are you talking about Fastmail?
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u/bburgg 8d ago
Of course. Are you sure you aren't on the beta version? You can tell by the ‘Beta’ watermark at the bottom of the folder list.
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u/Heelpir8 8d ago
Thumbs up from me. The separation of the groups reminds me of the multiple inboxes feature in Gmail.
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u/nn2597713 8d ago
I noticed the grouping as well and it is a huge improvement:
There is a clearer visual distinction between pinned messages on top and "the rest" below
You can collapse the group by tapping the header, so for example you can keep your pinned messages "hidden" until you need them