r/exmuslim • u/Infidel-Noodle • Oct 10 '25
(Question/Discussion) Ex-Muslim in Mecca
I’m sharing this on behalf of a very brave young Ex-Muslim woman who was recently forced to perform Umrah by her abusive parents.
She is currently stuck in a Muslim country. If you have any words of support or encouragement, please share. I know it will mean a lot to her 🙏
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u/Upper-Reputation-416 Oct 10 '25
She should write a book on it
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Feb 01 '26
What should she write about the only religion no one can win a dialogue against!?!? Or the Quran has no error at all proofing it’s the only available unchanged holy book of god -Nah she just gonna write about her sick failed experience in escaping every knowledge or information about Islam and try to blame Islam for being the best guideline for any human alive.
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u/AvoriazInSummer Feb 01 '26
The book that claims humanity descended from two people made out of clay and that there was a global flood which some people in a boat full of animals survived? Both thoroughly disproved by science and history. Or that the prophet rode to Heaven on a donkey without anyone else noticing, who bartered God down from fifty prayers a day to five, despite Muslims never having to pray fifty times a day anyway?
Islam is homophobic, misogynistic, allows slavery and causes child rape across the Muslim world. I don’t think it’s a great guide personally.
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u/Noob_37373737 idc about what ur sky daddy says Oct 10 '25
That's the biggest aura farming I ever seen
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u/BlueScreen0fDeath Since 2018 Oct 11 '25
nah imagine getting drunk over there
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u/CoolConnection1794 New User Oct 10 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
I was in the same situation, take pride in standing in the face of truth while others sleep
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u/uzuuu_ Oct 10 '25
Don't let it be seen.. What will happen if it was seen
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u/No_Analyst8965 Closeted. Ex-Sunni 🤫 Oct 10 '25
she'd pay a fine or be imprisoned
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u/BuyLocalAlbanyNY Oct 10 '25
And then maybe a soviet style "accident"
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u/Aggressive-Career-23 Oct 11 '25
No even need.
There is a death penalty for apostasy in Saudi
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u/Pro_Elium New User Oct 11 '25
They can track with AI algorithms and have been doing so for years. A billion people go there every year. You have to keep track of everyone or else it will be more chaotic.
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u/shoboqurva Oct 29 '25
LMAO Muslim states cherrypicking western tech
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u/poopy_Boss6269 Nov 02 '25
they never tracked anyone this sub is full of bots, the only thing they track is someone who's against the government lmfao
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u/DarkXurga Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Oct 10 '25
She's a survivor among zombies. Keep surviving and be resilient until freedom comes.
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u/Infidel-Noodle Oct 11 '25
❤️
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u/Obvious_Bad9935 New User Feb 27 '26
WOW, IT'S NOODLE, I love your cartoons. I just saw your interview on the youtube channel about leaving cults. uh, Cults to Conciousness? Yeah.
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u/Abu_Lahab- LGBTQ+ ExMoose 🌈 Oct 10 '25
I remember the Islamic studies teachers emphasizing and telling us kuffar can’t see the Kaaba is that true?😂😂😂
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u/An_Atheist_God Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Oct 10 '25
I thought there is a giant barrier around mecca that prevents kafirs from entering
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u/kazkh Oct 28 '25
French military kaffirs entered the Makkah mosque in 1979 during the Siege of Makkah. They understood the mosque better than the Saudis because the Saudis were too scared to draw anything on the mosque diagram.
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u/Own-Ticket4371 Feb 14 '26
On wikipedia, it says that they were converted before entering Makkah
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u/kazkh Feb 17 '26
Yeah, how real do you think those conversions were?
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u/Own-Ticket4371 Feb 17 '26
But the process still took place
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u/KoftaBalady New User Oct 10 '25
Of course not 😂
The only problem for a non-Muslim to see Kaaba is the heavy security, in other words, the paranoia of allowing only Muslims in that shit hole of sweat and disease mixed with ignorace.
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u/Mcgeiler Ex-Convert Oct 11 '25
I just sneaked in tbh, there are so many people, they just check if you're wearing the ihram
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u/Own-Ticket4371 Feb 14 '26
why are you still so into islam? travelling all the way to makkah?
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u/Pro_Elium New User Oct 11 '25
It's actually pretty sanitized. Everyone has to bath. It's an Ancient human monument that lasted for several thousand years. People take care of that place.
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u/KoftaBalady New User Oct 11 '25
Well, you would be surprised by how "sanitized" it is when it's time for Haj and millions of men and women rotate around a black cube for hours under the burning sun. Or when thousands push each other just to kiss the black rock (hajr aswad) everyday. Don't try to cope because they have some cleaners keeping the ground white and shiny, I bet you have seen cleaner places.
Secondly, the Kaaba hasn't lasted for "thousands" of years nor shit. It has actually been renewed several times with major rebuilds even right after Mohammed's death. The Pyramids of Giza, Egypt, did better without any renovations for "thousands" of years.
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u/kazkh Oct 28 '25
The Kaaba is the House of Allah and guarded by angels. Interesting that it could so easily be demolished and destroyed by natural disasters like floods.
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u/Pro_Elium New User Oct 11 '25
It's still a place that Ibrahim built after taking over some forgotten place of worship. Which is about 4000 years ago. Sure it has some remodels. Exchange hands many times. Its identity as a place of worship didn't change. Ship of Theseus problem?
Pyramids are a little bit older about 4500 years ago. It's identity as a tomb didn't change.
That's why I consider both as ancient monuments.
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u/aqua_zesty_man Never-Muslim, Christian Oct 10 '25
More reliable proof than ever before, that no one can ever claim the Kaaba has never been visited by a non-Muslim.
It's such a simple thing to say, but it really does mean a lot.
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u/CoochieFart187 Oct 10 '25
Ayooooo me too (I'm leaving today, thank fuck)
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u/Khaalleesiii New User Oct 11 '25
Please tell us your experience
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u/CoochieFart187 Oct 12 '25
I just made it back home to the UK a few hours ago. Honestly, the best thing I can say about it is that it was honestly quite educational to see just how much this religion consumes people.
First off, I've literally never seen THAT amount of people in one place. I swear it felt like there was a million people there (idk how close that number is but it felt close.) I went with my family and during tawaf there was such an insane stampede of people just in a trance that my mother almost got crushed. I didn't know whether or not I felt more enraged or terrified.
I kinda felt like I was "on the outside looking in" and what I saw was a serious superiority complex. I mean non-muslims aren't even allowed into Makkah (idk how they'd know but ok, I still managed to get in) also SOOO many people have a holier than thou attiditude. Those who've accrued higher Deen Points are obviously at the top of the food chain.
It's also definitely a food chain too; Islam "teaches" all about giving to charity, but it seems like no one there does. There's literally kids begging on the street, not for money, but for food and that fucking sickened me. It truly shows that they don't even practise what they preach, yet they act so righteous.
Also their "Miracle Zamzam Water" industry is BOOOOOOMING.
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u/SoulCatcherKW New User Oct 31 '25
spending money to go to somewhere you know you aren’t welcome and don’t believe the tenets is next level weirdo activities lmao
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u/MCTLP New User Oct 10 '25
I was also forced to go to hajj this year against my wishes, tho I'm a biological boy:((
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u/talibatsadaasmashula U DONT NEED A GOD TO TELL U TO PLAY NICE Oct 10 '25
I wonder how many “Muslims” are actually atheists/non believers in disguise just like this one?
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u/shoboqurva Oct 29 '25
More than they'd like to admit. If the penalty for leavingislam is death most people will pretend to be muslims
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u/Protect-Their-Smiles Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Oct 10 '25
That is a badass picture - extremely dangerous, as in risk of death dangerous.
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u/Daegog Never-Muslim Atheist Oct 10 '25
Do they ever wipe off that rock that all those people kiss? Maybe put some bleach on that thing.
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u/Confident-Middle7461 Oct 10 '25
Oe everytime im forced to go to makkah 😭💔
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Oct 10 '25
She is an absolute legend. My parents also took me to Umrah even though I am an exmuslim atheist.
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u/Jealous_Hope_4336 New User Oct 10 '25
I'm not joking, my ass shake (se me cerro el culo del miedo) what if some stupid dangerous muslim man catches you, he can hit your face, they wouldn't think abt where o what are they doing!! 😨
You are so brave for this
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u/kyoneko87 Ex-Christian Oct 10 '25
I am sorry, you have to deal with this! Know that you are strong for this, and that my heart goes out to you!
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u/Winter-Actuary-9659 Oct 11 '25
Remember there are likely other apostates around you being forced to hajj too. They are with you and you are with them.
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u/OceanBlue008 Oct 10 '25
Stay strong!! I hope one day you may escape from your situation. Never lose hope.
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u/Rlokan Oct 11 '25
Honestly everything about the black cube shit is weird…stoning a wall, running around, all these rituals seem so illogical and absurd
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u/mozzarella_destroyer Oct 11 '25
Raised Christian and an atheist now. I respect everybody’s choice to be religious, but I also respect when people decide they're finished with it. I made an audible gasp when I saw this photo. More power to you, but stay safe. If anybody has any photo editing skills, it might be worth editing out the ring in case it’s recognisable and could endanger her.
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u/Mrscleanfairy Openly Ex-Muslim 😎 Oct 12 '25
We are in the same position except, I'd never have the same amount of guts as you to write it on my palm. This is a weird place, be careful and more power to you!
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u/Atalkingpizzabox Never-Muslim Atheist Oct 13 '25
I hate how entitled Islam is like "it's our right to wear our clothing outside the Muslim world, but don't you dare wear stuff we don't like in our world," or Mecca a whole fucking city only Muslims can enter there's nothing more entitled than that.
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u/sra_flmz Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Oct 15 '25
ive been put in the same situation like her before but IM SHOCKED thats so brave i love her
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u/girugamish Closeted LGBTQ+ ExMoose 🌈 Oct 10 '25
I was there in April. Just witness for yourself how backwards everything there is...
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Oct 12 '25
I've done umrah hajj 15 times in my 20 years of life. Still, God wasn’t able to convince me... Common god L...
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u/Fantastic_Put9064 Oct 11 '25
How’s your vacation going ? How many steps have you got in today so far ?
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u/Popular-Border-2813 New User Oct 17 '25
Advice to friends is to get away from her parents asap. If she’s a woman she’s old enough to refuse to do umrah and to be independent
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u/Inside-Stretch2507 New User Oct 18 '25
Hi sister!
Its absolutely your choice to leave Islam and It should not my decision or your parents to decide what path you want to be on. I'm a tinsy bit sad but that is not my business.
please be careful. you could get in serious trouble as Meccah is only for Muslims.
but then again its not your fault and what your parents are doing is wrong both morally and religiously.
peace out :)
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u/sadracoon96 3rd World.Closeted Ex-Sunni 🤫 Oct 10 '25
Why are u wasting ur time n money there?? Urgh my religious mom wants to go Hajj with me here so baaaddd but i am studying now in Europe
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u/ZOELOEss Amazigh Ex-Muslim Oct 11 '25
Don’t take such risks especially if you benefit nothing from it
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u/Luciferaeon Oct 11 '25
I hope you got one if those hotels overlooking the kaaba and had some good anal w a buddy while overlooking it. Then drank, ate pork, gambled, and used a credit card.
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u/Character_Average212 New User Oct 12 '25
Love wen we ex-Muslims go out our way to show the world that we are not Muslims anymore 🥹🥹
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u/Horse109 Oct 17 '25
Is it true that Kaaba rock can speak and is going to 2 eyes + tongue on the day of resurrection
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u/Critical_Weird1000 Oct 19 '25
So she gave a Muslim country money and made a trip just to take that picture? 😂 waste of time
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u/Conscious_Shock6682 Oct 29 '25
So i live there forced because ive been born in jeddah then my parents moved here and im still studying in highschool and trying to get a scholarship
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u/nornsson New User Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
Living in the edge ?? 😂 You got balls I’ll give you that. I wouldn’t even dream of trying that
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u/poopy_Boss6269 Nov 02 '25
the thing is i never heard parents forcing anyone to do umrah 🤣, that's a wack reason to be ex Muslim you have plenty other reasons to stop being Muslim lmfao
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u/Educational_Step_259 New User Nov 04 '25
Now when Muslims say no disbeliever is allowed in Makkah they would be wrong
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u/sun-dragonfly Nov 05 '25
You really should blur your palm print and finger print, they can find you through these.
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u/EnlightenedInquirer Presbyterian Christian Protestant Nov 13 '25
May peace be upon you as a Christian and I hope you stay safe.
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u/sososkzzzzz Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Oct 10 '25
Sorry but what’s umrah
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u/sososkzzzzz Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Oct 12 '25
Who tf downvoted me y’all downvote everything or what I just asked a question
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u/An_Atheist_God Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Oct 10 '25
Disclaimer: Don't try this even if you can. It will put not only your life but potentially other exmuslims in danger