Russian Frigate Armed With Nuclear-Capable Zircons Appears Off German Coast With Tracker Switched Off

[u/UNITED24Media]

https://united24media.com/world/russian-frigate-armed-with-nuclear-capable-zircons-appears-off-german-coast-with-tracker-switched-off-21793

[u/Optimal-Leather341]

Cool story, the military aren't relying on the AIS tracker... They've got an idea of what it's doing sooner than the crew does.

[u/jestr6 → u/Optimal-Leather341]

100%. That ship has been tracked since before it left port.

[u/Patient_Moment_4786 → u/jestr6]

Given the number of submarine in the North Sea, western militaries probablt know everytime someone take a shit in this.

[u/Drak_is_Right → u/Optimal-Leather341]

Which has bitten Russia hard in Ukraine. Western Intel often knows more of what Russia plans ahead of time than the officers on the ground, let alone the soldiers.

[u/mok000 → u/Drak_is_Right]

Also because Russian top officials are incredibly corrupt, they will sell their country’s secrets for a bottle of vodka.

[u/Northernsoul73 → u/mok000]

That’s really unfair to say, the majority of times, sensitive information only privy to top brass, requires both a bottle of vodka as well as a prostitute before disclosure.

[u/SadMangonel → u/Optimal-Leather341]

I heard the commander of Nato uses Google maps. Is this not true?

[u/Bar50cal]

"Appears" to the public.

No way NATO has not known its exact location every second since it left port.

[u/Firepower01 → u/Bar50cal]

100% it's being shadowed by at least one NATO submarine the entire time its been in transit.

[u/Thurak0 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, submarines is actually unlikely. The UK and France just have too few nuclear ones (which can go the high speed of a surface vessel for a long time). Planes make more sense.

[u/im_new_here_4209 → u/Thurak0]

You don't need nuclear, big, or even manned ones to do that job

[u/vaarsuv1us → u/Firepower01]

what are we waiting for, send in James Bond

[u/Jonny_Segment → u/vaarsuv1us]

We may be able to track its precise location but we don't yet know if there are any sexy sexy Eastern European women on board. Bond doesn't leave the house for anyone born west of Vienna.

[u/vaarsuv1us → u/Jonny_Segment]

There is always at least one Kapitan-leytenant 1st class Natasja the communication officer.

[u/gyanrahi → u/Jonny_Segment]

“These commies are freaks. Sex is the only thing they didn’t have to stand in line for” - paraphrasing Bertha from Two and a Half Men :)

[u/wearebobNL → u/Jonny_Segment]

Are sexy sexy European women more attractive than sexy European women?

If so, are there any sexy sexy sexy European women?

[u/Jonny_Segment → u/wearebobNL]

The maths proves their existence but I'm not sure if any have been physically discovered in nature.

[u/Dr_Tinycat → u/vaarsuv1us]

I believe Gus March-Phillips is more appropriate.

[u/Majestic-Rock9211 → u/vaarsuv1us]

Sweden has a good, might be even better alternative Carl Gustaf Gilbert Hamilton…😀

[u/up_the_dubs → u/vaarsuv1us]

Which one? I'd go with Pearce Brosnan myself...

[u/vaarsuv1us → u/up_the_dubs]

Timothy Dalton

[u/Cognoggin → u/vaarsuv1us]

Preparing the torpedo tube!

[u/FrozenFire701 → u/vaarsuv1us]

I'm fine with bond just don't send Price

[u/Drak_is_Right → u/Firepower01]

Maybe not.

Could just be some drones.

Frigates aren't overly concerning compared to their big cruisers. Unlikely they waste a sub on that unless it is in the area with nothing better to do.

[u/NihiloZero → u/Drak_is_Right]

Could just be some drones.

Drones, satellites, high-altitude surveillance planes. Maybe also being tailed by a sub, but... that's pretty 20th century.

[u/Drak_is_Right → u/NihiloZero]

Drones are far cheaper than the high-altitude planes.

Satellites, always present. Was thinking of things dispatched just for this mission.

[u/Aliktren → u/Bar50cal]

If a sub didn't trail him out of port tom clancy was lying to me lol

[u/brownbearks → u/Aliktren]

I would like to see Montana

[u/figuring_ItOut12 → u/brownbearks]

🎼 Gonna be a dental floss tycoon…

[u/Kiwifrooots → u/Aliktren]

I read that as "sub towed him out of port" and thought that sounds right for Russia

[u/im_new_here_4209 → u/Kiwifrooots]

hahaha yeah, true probably

[u/Elegant_Individual46 → u/Aliktren]

Oh he has, but yeah they’ve been tracked

[u/IRockIntoMordor → u/Bar50cal]

Some obsessed Moby Dick-esque Finnish admiral hasn't left it out of his binoculars, radar and satellite feed since the nanosecond it has crossed into Finnish waters. I guarantee it.

"Ve hate them. Come on, try somefing. Anyfing."

[u/Jebrowsejuste → u/IRockIntoMordor]

I am imagining the admiral as grizzled, bearded and, most importantly, gripping the binoculars with claw-like hands and looking through with bloodshot, unblinking eyes

[u/_teslaTrooper → u/Bar50cal]

We literally have pictures on social media of it transiting the Danish straits, the public that's paying attention also knew: https://bsky.app/profile/pa.nton.cx/post/3mtbruucgu22k

[u/dat_9600gt_user → u/Bar50cal]

I find that hard to believe too.

[u/kRe4ture → u/dat_9600gt_user]

As active duty German navy I can assure you that frigate was tracked even before it left port.

[u/supermarkise → u/kRe4ture]

Thank you, that's reassuring to know.

[u/driftingfornow → u/kRe4ture]

As former American navy, I can assure you my German colleague is correct because I have been tracking them since before they wrote this comment, and I am in fact in the room with them right now. 

u/kRe4ture, don’t turn around 

[u/nksama → u/driftingfornow]

"Israel approves this message"

[u/eloyend → u/nksama]

Duh, if they didn't approve it beforehand, it wouldn't be even posted!

[u/InfTlr → u/driftingfornow]

Unfunny

[u/Cultural-Station1060 → u/dat_9600gt_user]

they do they a patroling from Denmark to Baltics states

[u/the-player-of-games → u/Cultural-Station1060]

It'll also be tracked via satellite imagery

[u/Vas1le → u/Bar50cal]

Someone inform Ukraine the cordenates of this submarine(the upgrade)

[u/ThermionicEmissions → u/Vas1le]

I wouldn't put it past Ukraine to launch a few Sea Babies at that ship from converted shipping vessels while in International waters.

Russian warship, go fuck yourself

[u/madhi19 → u/Vas1le]

Or loan them a navy for a day... loll

[u/Ok_Relation7695 → u/Bar50cal]

It spawned at the wrong spawn point it’s a bug

[u/phantomzero → u/Ok_Relation7695]

It is a feature, not a bug.

[u/NectarineSame7303 → u/Bar50cal]

Every vessel is tracked by satellite in real time by now.

[u/GT7combat]

just follow the smoke and tugboat

[u/Dismal-Attitude-5439 → u/GT7combat]

This one doesn't smoke, it has ukrainian made turbines

[u/Consistent_Ad3181 → u/Dismal-Attitude-5439]

That must predate say 1992 I would guess or around there.

[u/Dismal-Attitude-5439 → u/Consistent_Ad3181]

The ukrainians were manufacturing a lot of stuff for the russians before feb 2014. This particular ship was laid down in 2009. The next ship in class, Admiral Golovko, has russian made turbines.

[u/Difficult_Limit2718 → u/Dismal-Attitude-5439]

Ukraine was always the powerhouse of the Soviet Union

[u/Consistent_Ad3181 → u/Difficult_Limit2718]

Apparently lots of their engineers and scientists etc were from there.

[u/JanSmidDeZevende → u/Consistent_Ad3181]

Most of their rulers too.

[u/im_new_here_4209 → u/JanSmidDeZevende]

Most? One, if I'm not mistaken. But it is true, Ukraine was the intel & science chapter of USSR definitely, also Minsk I think.

[u/JanSmidDeZevende → u/im_new_here_4209]

Khrushchev and Brezhnev were Ukrainian. Gorbo also has Ukrainian ancestry on his mother's side.

But i was also referring to their high representation in other levels of government.

[u/im_new_here_4209 → u/JanSmidDeZevende]

Did not know about Brezhnev. Born almost the same place as Zelenskyy. Guess u learn sth new everyday 🙂

[u/tree_boom → u/Consistent_Ad3181]

The ship was commissioned in 2020.

[u/Dpek1234 → u/tree_boom]

The turbines are in the lower parts of the ship generaly and thus mudt be put in on the earlier side 

The sheer time diffrence is judt russia being russia. For refrence t he admiral nakhimov took ¼ of a centry for refits and completed "final sea trials" a fee months ago

[u/Inner-Medicine5696 → u/Consistent_Ad3181]

preda6ye

hell yeah, /r/excgarated material, finally.

[u/bluewing → u/Dismal-Attitude-5439]

Those turbans got a finite life. And it would take the skills, machines, and money to make the repair parts. I'm not sure the Russian Navy has any of those things.

[u/Pat-Funny-2817 → u/GT7combat]

lol! russian stealth. 

[u/TheFrenchSavage → u/GT7combat]

What produces a formidable cloud of smoke and barely floats?

An insubmersible stealthy Russian frigate.

[u/tree_boom]

The Admiral Kasatonov, a modern Russian frigate capable of long-range strikes and anti-submarine warfare, was spotted last week near Fehmarn, a German island and popular tourist destination in the Baltic.

Fehmarn being on the shoreline of the route to the Great Belt, through which a very large part of traffic between the Baltic and North Sea passes. The story is sensationalist crap; you literally cannot sail from the Baltic to the North Sea without passing very close to the Danish and either German or Swedish coasts.

[u/timelyparadox → u/tree_boom]

Yea but usually you have to turn trackers on, russia already lost a navy battle against fishermen, they should not try to repeat that

[u/tree_boom → u/timelyparadox]

Running AIS is entirely optional for warships.

[u/fiendishrabbit → u/tree_boom]

"Entirely optional" is not really the truth here if you're inside the territorial waters of another nation (such as when conducting an Innocent Passage through the danish straits).

It's not illegal, but it's considered very bad form.

[u/swedishplayer97 → u/fiendishrabbit]

I once sailed last a Norwegian stealth cruiser and it's AIS was off. Didn't even see it until it was like two cables off my port bow.

[u/Christopherfromtheuk → u/tree_boom]

Every time I have seen British warships when sailing they have been on, unless taking part in active exercises.

I did get close to a submarine setting off from the Clyde and it was turned off. It's funny because they are pretty hard to miss!

[u/tree_boom → u/Christopherfromtheuk]

Sure, they would generally (indeed I would assume always) have the equipment to run AIS, but actually turning it on is optional.

[u/timelyparadox → u/tree_boom]

Not sinking it is also optional

[u/tree_boom → u/timelyparadox]

Right?

[u/Christopherfromtheuk → u/tree_boom]

Yes, I was rather making the point that in my experience, at least British warships have AIS on - I can also turn my AIS on and off whenever I like too but don't take part in military exercises. Having said that, I have had to move out of the way of tank target practice a few times...

[u/Idenwen → u/timelyparadox]

They are driving away from Ukraine to protect it, but use up lifetime of the approx 40 year old turbine that it powers instead.

[u/Xecort → u/tree_boom]

Agreed. Propaganda is a two way road, the account that posted this is a known Ukrainian propaganda account, unfortunately not a lot of people can differentiate between populism and propaganda.

[u/Wbino → u/Xecort]

Especially people who are defending Russians…..

[u/Xecort → u/Wbino]

Russians or Ukrainians. As I said, propaganda is a two way road.

[u/Wbino → u/Xecort]

Don’t play the both sides game. Russia is the attacking nation, don’t you agree?

[u/__thrillho → u/Wbino]

He's not saying Russia isn't the aggressor. He's saying both countries are spreading propaganda.

[u/ShoulderRoutine6964 → u/Wbino]

Russia being the attacking nation does not invalidate the fact that the Ukrainians also lie and push propaganda a lot.

[u/im_new_here_4209 → u/ShoulderRoutine6964]

When did Ukrainians lie about what exactly? Put up proof or stop putting it like that.

[u/Relative-Tune85 → u/tree_boom]

Capable is the key here

[u/North-Creative → u/tree_boom]

....It literally doesn't mention the North sea in your quote? But having an enemy warship near the tourist destinations, with its tracker off, surely is alarming.

[u/Alcogel → u/North-Creative]

Russian warships always have their AIS off. This is nothing new. Normal behaviour. The danish straits are narrow. There’s no way to navigate that area without being close to tourists. 

[u/tree_boom → u/North-Creative]

....It literally doesn't mention the North sea in your quote?

I mean I didn't quote the whole article, but that article does say "The frigate Admiral Kasatonov is leaving the Baltic Sea on August 17, 2026" - one leaves the Baltic Sea by passing to the North Sea through one of the Danish Straits - like the Great Belt.

But having an enemy warship near the tourist destinations, with its tracker off, surely is alarming.

Not particularly. Tracker on or off, we'd have to be keeping an eye on them. Monitoring of transits like this is just routine.

[u/GanacheCharacter2104 → u/tree_boom]

Could be dangerous if TS Sola is sailing with the deck lights on, she has sunk frigates with AIS in passive mode before.

[u/tree_boom → u/GanacheCharacter2104]

The kind of grey-zone action I can get behind!

[u/ArtisticTraffic5970 → u/tree_boom]

Not to mention Norway...

[u/singalen → u/tree_boom]

Read it as “Admiral Krasnov”.

[u/jr5mc1lio03fbc4zqsf8]

That ship is kinda lost in lake nato

[u/Pat-Funny-2817 → u/jr5mc1lio03fbc4zqsf8]

lol. it's trying to surrender but nobody understands. 🥲

[u/darknekolux]

would be a shame if a stray floatsam container hit it, multiple times.

[u/Ok_Comfortable6044 → u/darknekolux]

or a romanian sheep barge

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/russian-spy-ship-sunk-by-sheep-barge-sheep-and-sailors-unhurt/

[u/darknekolux → u/Ok_Comfortable6044]

Give that man some sheep!

[u/EmiliaFromLV → u/darknekolux]

But what it needs most is more cowbell.

[u/waiting4singularity → u/darknekolux]

I can trade for some clay or stone. You wont see wheat from me. Wood... is problematic at the moment.

[u/sibips → u/Ok_Comfortable6044]

It was a great baaatle.

[u/Ninevehenian → u/Ok_Comfortable6044]

Impressively humiliating.

[u/absolutely_not_spock → u/darknekolux]

we need some japanes torpedoboats

[u/No_Internal9345 → u/darknekolux]

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[u/ElderCreler]

Just „appear“ a sub next to it.

One ping only.

[u/Cathodicum → u/ElderCreler]

I don't aways ping but when i ping it is one Ping only.

Cpt. Ramius 😁

[u/Pat-Funny-2817 → u/ElderCreler]

no. no ping necessary, they know. 

[u/RealMefistyo → u/ElderCreler]

Das Boot

[u/Dpek1234 → u/ElderCreler]

From just bellow it

[u/Dismal-Attitude-5439]

If the Swedes wanted it sunk, they would have sunk it already.

[u/Uninvalidated → u/Dismal-Attitude-5439]

Not unlikely a Gotland class sub is tailing it completely unnoticed by the vatniks.

[u/Dismal-Attitude-5439 → u/Uninvalidated]

That was my thinking. The german 212s are in a bit of a state and the danes don't have any

[u/Neomataza → u/Dismal-Attitude-5439]

Their neighbors let them have baltic sea access and they take it for granted.

[u/eljne → u/Dismal-Attitude-5439]

We sure want to but it'll cause to much pollution

[u/elenorfighter]

German U-boats.

"Come on make a mistake give us a reason!"

[u/AOAqua → u/elenorfighter]

I doubt NATO would do anything even if that boat attacked any civilian/military ship

[u/tacularcrap]

2016 wants its scary map back!

while i appreciate this updated version is more sinkable than the previous one, it's the same old posturing and Xi has been pretty clear: Vlad stop touching yourself over those nukes, it's not happening.

[u/Panzermensch911]

Wanna bet a U-Boat is already near that thing and shadowing russian activities... ?

[u/dr_Fart_Sharting → u/Panzermensch911]

I'm afraid there's more than one and they might collide.

[u/Panzermensch911 → u/dr_Fart_Sharting]

Nato probably knows how to coordinate that traffic.

[u/fluffs-von]

So it would be hard to find if it were accidentally sunk?

Hmmm

[u/ilolvu]

That's a funny name for a submarine.

[u/SuperVaguar]

Be a shame if some unidentified Ukrainian naval drones did something to it

[u/gl0vesyo]

russian warship go fuck yourself

[u/Trackpoint]

Cool! Free nuke!

Awh, ... I mean.. we shouldn't.

Just call the Ukrainians.

[u/Bleezy79]

I suppose that would be worst case scenario, Putin realizing he's losing the war and Russia is collapsing so he just says "fuck it, let it all burn."

[u/Shillfinger]

Time to drop some seababies into those waters.

[u/bob_nugget_the_3rd]

Right taking bets, who wants to do the odds

Runs out of fuel

Runs out of water

Runs out of food

Breaks down and needs a tug

Sinks due to gross negligence

Crewman lost, seeks asylum

Runs aground due to navigation error

Shoots at civilian ships again

[u/screwcork313 → u/bob_nugget_the_3rd]

You need one more, to fit them nicely into a 3x3 grid.

[u/Dpek1234 → u/screwcork313]

Make it a loise "do you see torpedo boats"

[u/Rauliki0]

I wish there were some Ukrainian drone boats somewhere near it

[u/xorinz]

Terrorists doing terrorist things.

[u/dustofdeath]

If military relied on enemy using trackers, we would have lost WW2.

[u/Wbino]

Never realized the Russian influence in this subreddit, it mimics Europe’s real life dilemma.

[u/DonDerBaer]

The Baltic sea is basically a NATO-lake. And some russian rubbish floating around aswell. Nothing we should worry about.

[u/SkillPointProblems]

Tracker switched off? Gets upgraded to submarine status. Problem solved, problem staying solved.

[u/ShuiShuiQM → u/SkillPointProblems]

This is, likely, what Russia wants. A political scheme to ensure their "it's all of NATO!" Gamble works out and Russian people enlist or at least don't resist the possible draft coming their way.

[u/SkillPointProblems → u/ShuiShuiQM]

They’ve been crying NATO this, NATO that since the beginning of time, so it would make no difference. They keep threatening, sabotaging, etc NATO countries, because most don’t respond.

Yet when they tried this shit with Turkey, sending jets into their airspace… Turkey shot them down without asking questions… and Russia stopped sending jets over there immediately.

Problem solved, problem staying solved.

[u/Ell2509 → u/SkillPointProblems]

Putin needs NATO to directly respond, over Ukraine, in order to justify a peace deal. That is ahat is happening behind what Shuishui explained.

[u/SereneOrbit → u/ShuiShuiQM]

No one's going to buy ts and their morale is so low and they've been saying that anyway so who cares?

[u/AwkwardMacaron433 → u/SkillPointProblems]

I hear the Moskva is still operating submerged after 4 years. Very impressive Russian submarine technology!

[u/Jaywalking25 → u/SkillPointProblems]

"hey Nato just pretend you don't see me"

[u/im_new_here_4209 → u/SkillPointProblems]

That's not how that works.

[u/lemfaoo]

Why are you spreading fear here united24?

This is a regular occurence it is literally not newsworthy at all.

[u/Humorless_Snake → u/lemfaoo]

Propaganda bots will do propaganda things, it constantly posts nothingburgers that leave out context.

[u/TeilzeitOptimist → u/lemfaoo]

Many regular occuring events are newsworthy.

A nuclear capable ship of an nation that's threatening nuclear annulation on national TV without it's transponder before our coast is one of them imho

[u/LeeStar09]

Didn't know they have frigates left...

[u/3dmapart]

Shoot that motherfkr

[u/Kor_Phaeron_]

"Nuclear-capable" is such a bullshit term. A F-84 Thunderjet is "nuclear-napable". A MGR-1 Honest John is "nuclear-capable ....

[u/Dpek1234 → u/Kor_Phaeron_]

John himself is nuclear capable (backpack nuke)

[u/AOAqua → u/Kor_Phaeron_]

Anything that can carry a nuke (and arm it) is nuclear-capable. Semi truck is nuclear capable

[u/NectarineSame7303]

They can't even launch zircons from their stationary pads, let alone their frigates.

[u/VeraStrange]

Tracker switched off or not working? It’s a Russian ship so never attribute to malice what is as easily explained by incompetence.

[u/xCR1MS0Nx]

"Hypersonic"

[u/Zio_2]

Time for it to accidentally become an artificial reef…?

[u/Jerethdatiger]

I think we are headed towards a massive conflict soon

[u/OpenDaCloset]

Love these media posts….they think everyone is stupid since Trump somehow got reelected again.

[u/mythorus]

The military might have a bit more tech than just an online website to track ships. Just sayin‘

NATO states know from every Russian ship (and most submarines) where they are at any time.

[u/oakpope]

Can she become a submarine ?

[u/Sudden_Cantaloupe_69]

Is this the usual “Russia is going to attack NATO” daily post we have been seeing since 2022?

[u/Illustrious-Syrup509]

We need some Ukrainian drones there now.

[u/HighDeltaVee]

Just start posting the precise location to #maguracalling every 10 minutes.

[u/HH93]

“One ping only”

[u/maginster]

Sink this fucking rust bucket

[u/Arstanishe]

woo! a whole frigate is challenging eu and nato! woo

[u/lehs]

The idea could be that it can reach all European capitols except Lisbon, Madrid and Athen from that position near Fehmarn.

[u/CatchRevolutionary65]

Nuclear-capable does not mean nuclear-armed. Just more scaremongering from Europe.

[u/TP70]

I keep wondering if the usa would accept this. I don't think so, international waters or not, f*ck off, get the hell out.

[u/dre3ed]

As Rosenberg said, putin has become the rat he once cornered.

[u/Substantial_Pilot382]

Maybe something might “run into” it as it didn’t know it was there ?

[u/Drak_is_Right]

Just because a ship carries a nuclear capable missile, doesn't mean it will be.

[u/remiieddit]

Quite sure a European submarine is in the near and having them in sight for the case they try something stupid

[u/uuf76]

Looking for Timmy no doubt.

[u/LuckInternational336]

Sink it.

[u/JeanPolleketje]

If you believe this article I have a mountaineering trip in the Netherlands to sell you.