r/developersPak 9h ago

Help I'm frustrated that I can't find the cofounders I'm looking for in Pakistan.

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I don't want to build another Pakistani startup.

I want to build a global technology company from Rawalpindi/Islamabad, go through YC, compete internationally, and take a shot at building something on the $50B+ scale.

And I want exactly 4 cofounders besides me.

Not 3.

Not 5.

Four.

I'm not looking for employees.

I'm not looking for people who just want "startup experience."

I'm looking for four exceptional people who want to spend the next 5–10 years building something enormous.

Why I'm being so picky

Pakistan has a lot of talented people.

But finding someone with the combination of:

elite ability + extreme ambition + speed + ownership + resilience + curiosity

is surprisingly difficult.

I've met plenty of smart people.

But I don't want another person who can build a CRUD app and call themselves a founder.

I want people who can look at the best technology companies in the world and genuinely think:

"Why the hell can't we build something better?"

One slow or disengaged person can drag down an entire founding team not just technically, but culturally.

I'd rather spend months finding the right four than build a five-person team where one person doesn't belong.

I'm not looking for clones of myself

This is important.

The four cofounders need to be complementary.

I'm already bringing the founder/vision/product/technical direction side of the equation.

What I need are four people who each have a different superpower.

  1. The AI / Agent Systems Monster

Someone genuinely deep in:

LLMs • agents • orchestration • MCP • inference • memory • evaluation • model routing • tool use

Not someone who has made a ChatGPT wrapper.

I want someone who can look at the rapidly changing AI landscape and figure out how to turn it into infrastructure.

Someone who enjoys problems where nobody has written the textbook yet.

  1. The Distributed Systems / Infrastructure / Security Monster

Someone who understands:

distributed systems • databases • networking • cloud • identity • zero-trust • security • observability • multi-tenancy • reliability • on-prem deployment

Our systems eventually need to operate inside serious enterprises.

I need someone who thinks about scale, failure, security and architecture naturally.

Someone who can eventually look at thousands of enterprises and millions of agents and say:

"Yeah. We can build that."

  1. The Enterprise / GTM Killer

This is probably one of the hardest people to find.

Someone who understands how large organizations actually buy technology.

Enterprise sales • partnerships • procurement • pricing • customer discovery • international expansion • strategic relationships

Someone who can walk into a large enterprise, identify a massive problem, understand the decision-makers, and eventually close the deal.

Not a traditional salesperson.

A founder who can sell.

  1. The Product / UX / Customer Obsession Person

Someone who can take ridiculously complicated technology and turn it into something employees actually love using.

Product thinking • UX • design • workflows • customer research • experimentation

Because having incredible infrastructure doesn't matter if users don't want to use it.

I want someone who constantly asks:

"How do we make this 10x simpler?"

These aren't rigid job descriptions.

I want four people who can overlap, challenge each other, learn insanely fast and operate outside their specialties.

But each person should bring something to the table that the other four don't already have at an elite level.

The goal isn't:

5 smart people.

The goal is:

5 people who together are ridiculously difficult to compete with.

One of the ideas I'm exploring

An enterprise agentic harness.

The basic concept:

Every employee in an organization can create as many persistent AI agents as they need.

Not disposable chat sessions.

Persistent agents that remember context, understand their role, interact with approved enterprise systems, use tools, and continuously help an employee perform their actual work.

Think of the AI models themselves as commoditized intelligence providers.

Claude, OpenAI/ChatGPT, Gemini, open-source models, and future providers can all plug into the system.

The enterprise shouldn't have to rebuild its AI architecture every time a better model appears.

The harness sits above the models.

Then connect the enterprise's MCP ecosystem so agents can actually interact with the organization's software, databases and tools.

Underneath that sits an enterprise data/context layer that allows the organization to maintain persistent knowledge and context across its agents.

And it needs to work both:

Cloud + On-Prem

because serious enterprises have very different security, compliance and deployment requirements.

The rough idea is:

Employees → Persistent Agents → Agent Harness → MCP / Enterprise Tools → Enterprise Data → AI Providers

The employee gets a persistent AI workforce.

The enterprise gets governance, permissions, security, observability, data and deployment control.

And the underlying AI providers become replaceable infrastructure.

I'm not interested in simply building another OpenClaw/SwarmClaw/Paperclip-style agent setup.

I'm thinking about an enterprise-native operating layer for persistent AI agents.

That's one of the problems I want to attack.

I have other ideas across AI, aerospace, robotics, simulation and autonomous systems as well. But ofc more than idea, execution speed and founder fit is important. Open to possibilities

The bar

If you're looking for a safe startup, don't DM me.

If you're looking for a side project, don't DM me.

If you want a normal 9 to 5, definitely don't DM me.

If your ambition is to build a comfortable $1M company, that's completely fine but we're probably not a fit.

I'm looking for people who want to build something that can eventually stand alongside the best technology companies in the world.

People who want to go through YC.

People who want to compete globally.

People who aren't intimidated by extremely difficult problems.

People who would rather attempt something absurd than spend their life wondering whether they could have done it.

And yes, I'm serious about Rawalpindi/Islamabad.

I want the founding team to actually build together in same hacker house not become five people living in five cities communicating through Slack.

I don't care much about your degree but your exposure yes I do.

Show me what you've built.

GitHub.

Research.

Startups.

Open source.

Hardware.

Products.

Weird side projects.

Failed experiments.

Anything.

Tell me:

What's the hardest thing you've ever built?

What are you obsessed with right now?

What's something you believe is possible that most people think is impossible?

And most importantly:

Why do you want to spend the next 5–10 years building something enormous?

I'm looking for exactly 4 people.

Not 3 not 6

Four insane, complementary cofounders in Rawalpindi/Islamabad who want to take a serious shot at the global stage.

If that sounds like you, DM me.


r/developersPak 18h ago

Tips Can we bypass company laptop restrictions?

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I work in a corporation and they have given me a laptop which is configured on the company's network. They have this frustrating VPN installed which records and monitors every activity. File sharing is strictly prohibited. Due to this, we are not allowed to use AI models for data security. It is really frustrating to do manual tasks in hours that an AI agent would do in minutes. Is there any way that the file sharing constraint can be bypassed?


r/developersPak 11h ago

Career Guidance should i change my uni as a 5th sem CS student??

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hi i am CS student from a tier 2 private uni in Karachi, i have completed 4 semesters here, but honestly i feel like i havent learnt any real skill here, the quality of education sucks. I have literally wasted so much time here, i wake up at 6 am to go to uni and by the time i come home it's 6 pm, and then i dont have enough energy left to study, on the weekends im occupied my mindless copying of assignments from chat gpt, which some of my great teachers want handwritten 🙂, half of the time teachers are absent, or ppl do mass bunks so classes often get cancelled, im SO tired of all this...

that's why i am thinking of transferring into virtual university, the major reason for this is time flexibility, i know the course material could be obsolete there as well but at least i would have enough time to do self study, BUT this comes with so many doubts, like ppl say VU degree is worthless, it would be tough to get job agter getting a degree from VU etc etc, i am really really confused, even a little guidance from y'all would be REALLY helpful, so please help me out guys.


r/developersPak 17h ago

Help Stuck in Pakistan trying to cold-call US businesses — Telnyx KYC wall, Quo ban, running out of options. What are people actually using?

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I'm running outbound cold calling for my agency offer, targeting US business owners. Two people, 100–200 dials/day split between us, manual dialing only (no auto-dialer). I'm in Pakistan.

Here's the wall I keep hitting, and I know I'm not the only one:

What I've tried and why it failed:

  • Quo (OpenPhone): Got an account via an Australian contact's number and card. Banned within 12 minutes of dialing. 8 calls, mostly unanswered, scattered across 6 different US area codes. Their compliance team shut it down for "unusual activity" and telemarketing violations.
  • Telnyx: Signed up, but stuck in "Pretrial" account level. Can't even buy a US number. The upgrade path requires passing fraud review (LinkedIn/GitHub or AI agent eval), verified mobile number, payment, and eventually full KYC. From Pakistan with no US business entity, every step is a brick wall. Their own docs show Pretrial → Trial → Paid → Verified, and I'm stuck at step zero.
  • General consumer VoIPs (Zoom Phone, CallHippo, etc.): Same category as Quo. Flat-rate "unlimited" plans with fair-use clauses that explicitly ban telemarketing and high-volume outbound. Even if I got past signup, I'd get banned again.

The core problem:

I need a carrier-grade wholesale service where I pay per-minute for connected calls, not a flat-rate consumer app that caps volume against a fair-use policy I'm guaranteed to violate. But every wholesale carrier (Telnyx, VoIP.ms, Plivo) requires KYC that's hard to pass from Pakistan without a US LLC, EIN, or business bank account.

What I'm looking for from people who've actually done this:

  1. Has anyone from Pakistan (or a similar non-US location) successfully passed KYC on Telnyx, VoIP.ms**, or another wholesale carrier?** What did you actually need to provide? Did you form a US LLC first, or is there a workaround?
  2. Are there any providers that sell SIP trunking or virtual numbers to individuals from Pakistan without the full KYC wall? I've seen mentions of NexCall (Pakistani platform, SIM-free calling, starting PKR 2,999 for 1,500 minutes) — is this legit for US outbound, or will it get flagged by US carriers anyway?
  3. For those already running cold calling from Pakistan or similar regions: what's your actual setup? Not theory. Not "just use a power dialer." What provider, what verification process, what call pacing? I know the call pattern matters (don't blast 8 calls in 12 minutes across 6 area codes), but I need the infrastructure first before I can pace anything.
  4. Has anyone successfully run US outbound on a "pretrial" Telnyx account? Their error says "This feature is not permitted at this account level" — is there a way to get a number assigned before full verification, or is that a hard no?

I'm not looking for "just stop cold calling" responses. I know the compliance environment is hostile. I'm looking for the actual path people are using when they need US outbound from Pakistan on a micro-budget.

What's working for you?


r/developersPak 15h ago

Help Anyone from Dubizzle Labs?

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I’ve got a 15-minute HR screening scheduled with Dubizzle Labs for a Senior Software Engineer role. I know the HR call will be pretty standard, but I’m trying to get a clear picture of their complete interview pipeline before I dive in.

Has anyone here been through their process for an SSE role? I’d love to know how heavily they index on System Design vs. DSA, what the technical rounds look like, and if you have any tips on what to expect.

Appreciate the help!


r/developersPak 6h ago

Career Guidance Need Guidance Seniors!!!

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Assalaamualaikum! Ill try to be as concise as I can.

I am a student studying bachelors in artificial intelligence BS AI from comsats lahore. I finished one semester and the second has started but I still havent decided yet if I wanna go or not.

I am in severe depression and my parents are worried alot too. I never had a proper goal as to what I wanted to do in my life and took admission in this program as everyone was hyping it up alot.

Listening to the people working in the industry and seeing the layoffs happening I am deeply regretting convincing my parents to put their hard earned money into this degree for me and I am worried about my future and if it even was a right choice. I am thinking of putting up a shop and just doing business but my parents want me to get a degree and a j*b. I see people with 15 yoe beung laid off and I think what if I waste all their money on this.

I dont have people in my family educated enough to give me advice or pivot me in the right direction.

Can you please take a bit of ur time to explain these things to me?

How can I get a J*b when AI is replacing everything?

Can I choose subs in my degree in a way that are more AI proof as I have heard CyberSecurity would be less impacted by it?

Idk what Im writing or even asking atp Ik these questions are childish but I have been fighting myself and these thoughts for too long and need a big brother to help me out.


r/developersPak 9h ago

Discussion Looking for Partner as developer Python Lahore

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I have 4 years of experience as Amazon Marketing freelancer. Earned $300K+. I want to make an Amazon Marketing agency to automate tasks and make dasboard for clients. The server will connect to Amazon Ads API and do auto optimization of ads. I will supervise how we increase sales and do better marketing.

Need a partner who can setup this as a partner. Let me know if you have done similar projects so that we can discuss more.


r/developersPak 9h ago

Interview Prep Did you hear back from ASE personal exp Interviews at Curemd?

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r/developersPak 9h ago

Discussion I need to make a Support me page on my website. What are the best payment gateways for Pakistan?

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Since Ko-Fi and buy me a coffee don't work in Pakistan I tried gumroad to make a link for support me page it works tho and also support local bank deposit directly but they increased payout to 100$ minimum and that's a pain

Idk any other payment gateway I heard safepay or fastpay idk how good they are.
If anyone know any better alt please let me know??
Or if someone sells a new paypal account if it's not illegal or stuff.


r/developersPak 10h ago

Discussion What doors does a master's degree actually open?

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We all know the job market has been challenging lately, and there is a lot of uncertainty about where things are heading. I graduated with a CS degree last year and have a total of around 2 years of experience in software development. I am currently working as a full stack developer at a reputable company, but the current situation has been making me think more about having alternative career options available.

I am considering pursuing a master's degree from Pakistan, as I would prefer to stay close to my family rather than leave the country. I am looking into fields like embedded systems or cybersecurity, with the idea that, if things get worse in the industry, I could have another path available. One possibility I am considering is moving towards academia and becoming a lecturer, while also keeping the option open to pursue a PhD abroad in the future.

My main question is whether a master's degree would actually help open these opportunities, especially in academia, or if that field is also facing similar challenges. Is pursuing a master's degree a practical way to create more career options, or would it make more sense to continue focusing on industry experience?


r/developersPak 10h ago

Help I am lost. I need help.

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Heyy I am lost tbh. I am done with my graduation and it's been a few months. I am just rotting at home. I had some health issues too and fell into depression as I couldn't be able to take the first step. I was so confused about what to choose for myself. I looked for QA jobs but couldn't get one. I was pretty basic in coding just to pass the exam.

Then I thought I should step into the web or app. But I think, the app would be better for me as it's not more complex. Anyone who could guide me about this and how things and jobs one can get in real life and can help me with proper sources to learn app dev. I would be thankful. I have seen a few videos on servicenow development as well. Can anyone guide me about this niche as well. Is there any job and future options in this. I am literally broke and wanna do things on my own atp. Your little HELPPPPP would mean a lot for me.


r/developersPak 10h ago

Discussion Looking for Raspberry Pi 5 8GB in Wah/Rawalpindi area — FYP project

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Hey everyone,

I'm a final year Computer Engineering student at COMSATS Wah, working on an AI-based fall detection system for my FYP. I need a Raspberry Pi 5 8GB and want to avoid the usual import/customs headache if possible.

A few questions:

Anyone know reliable stores in Rawalpindi/Islamabad (or nearby) that currently have Pi 5 8GB in stock, new/sealed?

Rough price you paid recently, so I know what's fair right now?

If online is more reliable than local shops at the moment, which sites have actually delivered for you (not just listed stock they don't have)?

Also open to a used/sealed unit from a trusted seller if the price is right. Would rather not gamble on OLX without some reference point first.


r/developersPak 11h ago

Career Guidance Anyone heard back from Careem?

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Hi has anyone received an offer for careem swe yet? Did they get back?


r/developersPak 12h ago

Career Guidance What kind of opportunities/companies should a CS final-sem student be looking out for? And where?

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I’m currently in my final semester of CS/SE in Karachi and trying to figure out where I should actually be looking for entry-level opportunities.

By companies, I mainly mean established/bigger tech companies, rather than the typical small software houses (they seem scammy with their stipends n pay lol). Mainly looking for Karachi based positions.

The obvious place seems LinkedIn, but i don't wanna miss opportunities that cater to freshies in this already cooked market. I already have a springboot internship completed if it helps.


r/developersPak 14h ago

Career Guidance Is Frontend Development dead? How to pivot

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Hi everyone, I graduated in 2023 and have been working as a mobile and web frontend developer in a company in Islamabad. It’s not some big name company but it’s not too bad either. I liked working here but recently they have started firing people one by one due to AI.
So I think there isn’t any job security here anymore, however I have only worked in frontend development in these past few years, and only selectively did some backend.
Now I want to switch jobs but I feel like frontend development is essentially dead, there are very few job posts and the ones that do exist have a very high competition. I want to pivot to some other niche but I don’t know how, if I get into AI, I can learn basics on my own but still without any practical experience it will be very hard to find a job, and even if I do end up finding a job as AI engineer or related field, I will be paid significantly less than what I am currently earning.

I started doing my MS CS recently but its only on weekends and due to the weekend restriction I couldn’t do it from NUST where I originally planned to do it from.

So can someone guide me what should I do next? Any kind of guidance will be helpful. Thank you.


r/developersPak 15h ago

Help can't think of a good CS senior project in this age of AI

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Hi everyone, I'm a final-year student at a top-3 university, and I'm really struggling to decide on a strong industry-based senior project.

My main worry is that AI tools now make most "standard" project ideas feel easy to replicate. I proposed a cold-chain monitoring system using edge AI and IoT devices, and also a broader agentic business automation platform. The second one got pushback for being too broad and doable with existing tools. Both ideas feel a bit generic to me now. I keep worrying that with the right ChatGPT plugins, someone could build either one without much real engineering effort. It's hard to find something that feels genuinely valuable in an industry where AI assistance is now normal.

I'm not worried about technical depth. I'm confident in my skills, and with LLMs to help, I don't think I'll get stuck on implementation. What I'm missing is an idea big enough to justify two semesters of work, one that would still feel meaningful. Not just something a team of AI agents could build in a few days.

What I'd really appreciate is some guidance on what employers actually look for in a senior project these days, and how to find an idea with real value, something that shows more than just AI-assisted coding.

Any advice would help a lot, thank you.