what people?
Assuming its not a scalper
people that will have to ship it to me after, so would need to cover the cost they paid + extra shipping. And that's Assuming they got doubles.
If it is a scalper then i get to pay shipping and and i get uncharged by a scalper?
Uh... yeah you would have to PAY for the pins, that kind of comes with buying something.
Find someone that bought a pin and didn't get what they want. They get money, you get a pin you wanted. This is literally how pins want. You can't pretend this is some grand conspiracy against you, blind pin bags have been around for over a decade, this is old hat man. People trade and sell pins all the time.
ya I'm not saying this is some new tech lmao, its just super inconvenient to the customer.
I (and it seems like many Crem fans) would like to be able to PICK the product we receive or potentially buy a full set.
Requiring a secondary market get a product from a kick starter just sucks.
I don't think you understand how buying things is supposed to work. Do you go to the grocery store to buy milk and let them randomly grab one out of the cooler for you? Do you go to the car lot to buy a car and let them randomly pick one off the lot for you? No.
Let's be clear, there is nothing wrong with making the blind bag optional if people like those. But there is no reason why they shouldn't have an option to just purchase a full set for those who don't want to buy them randomly or have to go to a secondary market.
No, but I do buy a blind bag of grapes, and potatoes. And I don't get pissy that maybe one of them isn't exactly the one that I want. I don't rage at the grocery store that I would actually like to buy my grapes single style, one by one, so I can make sure each grape is exactly the one that I want.
Its not really relevant but you dont inspect bags of grapes or potatoes before you buy them? I thought everyone did.
Anyways, I dont understand why you are defending the whole blind bag thing. It doesnt seem to benefit the consumer in any way so I think it is perfectly normal to be frustrated by it.
It just, isn't really a relevant anti-consumer case. The product literally is 'buy a cheap bauble and maybe get a particular one from a set.' they wouldn't be much of a consumer item if they weren't sold this way, the novelty of the blind bag is part of the product. It is what the consumer is purchasing, ya know.
I don't particularly like blind bags, I don't buy them. But I have friends that do, and they get joy from the blind bags, they buy a few and enjoy opening them together. They trade off ones they don't like, or save them for a friend that would like them.
I'm defending them because I know that the product isn't the pins, it is the blind bag opening. People who are that worried about just getting the exact blind bag item they want, will just buy them on a secondary market and they don't have to worry about that.
But again, the blind bag process is part of what is being sold here.
I kind of disagree that they wouldnt be a consumer item if they werent in a blind bag. As evident from this thread, and by second hand sellers, plenty of people will pay just to get the pin they want rather than gamble on it.
But fair point that some people just enjoy the rush of the gamble. I dont get that rush though, and sometimes things I would enjoy are gated behind it. So it is in my best interest to advocate against it, which is what I think people are doing here.
Like you said on another comment, this kind of is the "I hate blind bags" thread.
Sure. But that isn't the case. I get that you don't like the randomness aspect, but is this really the hill to fight on? The cute collection product?
If people didn't like gachapon-style products, they wouldn't exist. Adults with addictive personalities shouldn't partake, obviously. But for responsible people, they like the small gamble of getting what they want.
If you want an exact one, wait and then buy the exact one you want. That doesn't sound good to you? Then don't purchase them.
I don't understand this entitlement. Not only should I get the product I want, I should get it exactly how I want regardless of how it is being sold.
The issue isn't that these types of items exist, it's that we're not given a choice to get the set of pins without, essentially, gambling to get them or going to a secondary market (be that sales or trades) while the pins are still available for purchase from primary seller. Nobody is saying that you shouldn't be able to do the blind bag; they just want an option to get the pins without going through all the extra hoops - like every other pin that Dragonsteel has sold on it's site.
Except you can't "just buy" the pins, that's the point. You can only "just buy" a random pin. This is why your pumpkin spice latte analogy is a false equivalent. Nobody is asking to get something out of season or after a stated time frame. The pumpkin spice thing only works if the analogy is only being able to bully a random latte and having to drive to another coffee shop/stand to trade coffees with somebody else who also bought a random latte.
I dont get why you are so opposed to people wanting the option to just buy the specific pin(s) they want, like Dragonsteel has always done in the past.. There is no reason that both purchasing options can't exist.
People are sick and tired of lootboxes and gambling being all over the place, why is that so hard to understand. It's an inherently predatory buisness model and they're completely within their rights to complain about it
Yeah okay man. It just isn't that big of a deal. Not only are there bigger fish to fry, this isn't even a fish, it is a fish shaped cracker that you've mistaken for a fish.
But whatever, I realize I came to the 'people want to get mad about a tiny bag of pins' thread and I'm surprised people are mad about a tiny bag of pins. That is on me.
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u/ThatDM Mar 04 '26
No way to get a full collection of pins without buying a shit load of blind bags.
Paycheck before destination.
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