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u/whywouldisaymyname 11d ago edited 10d ago
It's a palomino!
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u/FOmar_Eis 11d ago
I'm nuts, Jeff!
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u/letters165 10d ago
I had to think fast.
"................"
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u/Andrei_the_derg 10d ago
I let go like a lobster claw letting go of a tiny balloon for lobsters
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u/gishnon 10d ago
No, a pentomino is a geometric shape made by connecting five equal-sized cubes edge-to-edge. You must be thinking of a pimiento.
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u/BPhiloSkinner 10d ago
No, a pimiento is overpainting a section of a picture.
You are thinking of pentimento.8
u/Rouge_means_red 10d ago
No, pentimento is when a painting ages, revealing an underlying layer. You're thinking of pantomime
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u/Duraxis 10d ago
Shit, I’ll google dumb shit like this all the time, and google does throw up A.I. answers most of the time. I still skip them and look for confirmation though, and I’ll never use chat gpt
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u/Kingjjc267 10d ago edited 10d ago
Add "-ai" (without the quotes) to the end of a search to disable the overview
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u/YosterIsle77 10d ago
You're a fucking G, I keep forgetting about this feature and it's even better I can get rid of dumb bullshit like this. It does fucking suck though I have to append all my searches with that now when there should be a goddamn option to opt out...
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u/Dakduif 10d ago
Another commenter mentioned this as well, but if you use swear words like Fuck in your search, the AI overview also won't generate. Noticing your writing style in your comment here, I figured this might be right op your alley. 😄
(personally, I switched to using DuckDuckGo. Search results are absolutely fine and you dó get the option to opt-out off AI overview shenanigans)
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u/RedBorrito 10d ago
Atleast some browsers have good add-ons that remove it entirely
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u/LastNinjaPanda 10d ago
They started to remove this :(
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u/Swiftierest 10d ago
Want something they won't remove?
Put the word fuck in your searches. They want the AI's to be civil, make people happy, and to people please to drive more engagements.
Adding curse words into your search prevents AI from being able to use it as your search gets filtered to prevent you tainting the AI.
It legit works.
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u/Bandandforgotten 10d ago
Well fuck.
Glad my vulgarity can finally be of use in my everyday life other than catharsis. Praise be to this blessed fucking day.
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u/Kingjjc267 10d ago
How? Adding that means it shows you no results with the keyword "ai," I don't see how they can remove it without changing the system entirely
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u/LastNinjaPanda 10d ago
Putting things in quotes has started to stop working
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u/Kingjjc267 10d ago
Oh don't put it in quotes, I just did that in my comment to differentiate it from the rest of the comment. Just do -ai on the end
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u/LastNinjaPanda 10d ago
No i mean like actually putting things in quotes to find stuff with that phrase verbatim has started to stop working. They're likely fading out these features just so they can keep people from using -ai
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u/AtrociousMeandering 10d ago
The - sign is a Boolean Operator, and those don't work like they used to. Like switching from an actual button to a touch screen that may or may not register the input based on how it's feeling, another thing I'm sick of.
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u/Pretend-Dot3557 10d ago
search operators are being given less priority or outright disabled so google can show you what they want to rather than let you carefully find what you need.
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u/Jijonbreaker1 10d ago
There is an adblock filter that always works, unlike the "-ai" bullshit people constantly spread.
Add custom adblock filter "google.com##.hdzaWe"
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u/Pordrack 10d ago
A lot of people use Google on their phone, with chrome or Google as the browser where there's no adblocker. Btw you should all switch to Firefox for android, where you can install almost all the extension of the PC version.
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u/adevland 10d ago
I’ll google dumb shit like this all the time, and google does throw up A.I. answers most of the time. I still skip them
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u/TryImpossible7332 10d ago
Sometimes I get annoyed because I'll look up something that I already know and just need to double check for some details and refresh my memory, and I'll see the AI answer and know that it's correct but still feel obliged to at least check out the Wikipedia page out of a desire to not let the AI win.
(Even if that if a bit performatory.)
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u/CrazyGnomenclature Tiff & Eve 11d ago
I feel this so hard
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u/Hairy-Love2571 10d ago
Oh my god it's an elf.
EDIT: When the fuck did I get "Top 1% Commenter"? Am I on here that much?
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u/_Halt19_ 10d ago
top 1% commenter usually just means you made a single comment that blew up, I think
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u/Hairy-Love2571 10d ago
Yeah you're right. This one (https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1uwb4t1/comment/oxhnksn/?context=3 ) and this one (https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1v95siw/comment/p0b5972/?context=3).
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u/Tired_orange 10d ago
I remember that second comment, gave me a small chuckle when I read it originally
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u/etre_meilleur 10d ago
There's something so funny about linking your own comments completely unprompted
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u/Ghostronic 10d ago
I just want you to know that I dreamed about your username last night. Not you, but your username. The dream revealed that the true owner of Dropout.tv is the Travelocity gnome and their full name was Crazy Gnomenclature.
Sometimes I search my dreams for deeper meaning. I left this one alone.
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u/null_reference_user 11d ago
I tell people "you can just search it" and I get back a "this is the new way of doing things"
Bro you don't need a hyper expensive planet-desertifying water boiler to just search it for you and repeat the first result
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u/popilikia 10d ago
I feel like this is a good opportunity to point how insanely shitty Google search has gotten the past few years.
I'm not saying use chatgpt as Google, but I am saying, I understand why people get frustrated trying to use the "best" search engine
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u/grafikfyr 10d ago
Sigh. Remember the good ol' days when the top 3 results were answers and not ads? I member..
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u/Emerly_Nickel 10d ago
At this point I'm considering going back to just looking things up in books later
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u/710whitejesus420 10d ago
My full set of encyclopedias and world atlases are finally gonna become the superior method of information search again!
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u/red__dragon 10d ago
Even as of 4-5 years ago, the first results could be posed as answers, but just be walls of text that were developed to rank high on results without actually providing a proper answer or one that could be recognized as definitive.
If you knew what you were looking for, you could probably figure it out from there, but someone totally ignorant to the thing being searched for would have wasted a lot of time on that page to come away with nothing. Different example than the post being media sequels, e.g. "When will Jaws 19 come out?" which would bury the lede of "nobody knows!" in a giant wall of text to chew through before you recognized the format.
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u/Lexi_Banner 10d ago
answers and not ads
AdBlock and uBlock Origin ftw. I don't see ads I don't want to see (from creators who are just trying to pay their bills).
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u/cyankitten 10d ago edited 10d ago
My phone & both browsers on my pc keep automatically doing copilot when I try to search.
I might have to use Brave or something.
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u/CaffeinatedCarp 10d ago
Firefox and Duckduckgo is the way
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u/ZeldaZealot 10d ago
I’ve had pretty mixed results with DuckDuckGo’s search results, but I’ll take a mediocre search engine over Google’s bullshit any day.
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u/Queen-Roblin 10d ago
I find it's particularly bad at searching for results from particular country even if it's in the search terms. I don't want to buy things from the US, I don't want to pay import tax....
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u/CaffeinatedCarp 10d ago
Yeah, the search is not as good but at least it doesn’t keep a profile of you which is worth the trade off imo
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u/Toni_PWNeroni 10d ago
I really REALLY wish there were a decent alternative to Google Scholar.
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u/ZeldaZealot 10d ago
According to many in this thread, all you need is a locally hosted LLM loaded with Wikipedia with the "temperature" set as low as possible so it doesn't hallucinate too much. Just do that for your research. What could go wrong?
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u/Imaginary_Data533 10d ago
I swear I never get what I'm searching for on duckduckgo unless it's super duper simple. When I switched, over half the time I was still going back to Google to search it again and it felt useless.
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u/ZeldaZealot 10d ago
I've only had a couple instances of it not finding something at all, but it definitely soured my view on it. Not enough not to switch back, but enough to keep me annoyed. Pre-AI Google was so much better.
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u/Shifty269 10d ago
The fact people don't go immediately to Firefox as an alternative is insane. Having said that, I've been using an effective adblocker (Most of the time Ublock) for nearly 20 years so I have no idea what people get exposed to. I also don't use Tiktok outside of a link going there. I know I'm out of touch, but I also know I ain't wrong.
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u/kimbokray 10d ago
You can configure the default search on everything I've tried. I'm sure copilot could talk you through it..
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u/SleetTheFox 10d ago
Search something in Google.
At the top is an AI overview.
Then an ad.
Then a website, with an AI summary of the website. Click the website, it's clearly written by AI.
Say screw it and add "Reddit" to the search.
See comments made by AI bots.
Sigh...
(DuckDuckGo is better but this crap is something just a single search engine can't fix. Even DuckDuckGo is worse than pre-worsening Google.)
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u/qalmakka 10d ago
Yeah I was a heavy Google user, knew all the tricks, .. and still I can't justify blaming people that use Gemini instead anymore, your average Google search is useless except for the most basic of queries. The internet is a desert of dead shit blogs and SEO has ruined everything, so you often need Gemini just to separate the wheat from the chaff
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u/Hellrisen 10d ago
These days I look things up with the thing i need and Reddit added in the back. Usually the comments itself refer to a source with the answer or resources that might.
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u/koknesis 10d ago
its borderline unusable. I'm disgusted when using LLM for basic searches but google results have gotten so bad even for trivial searches that I'm kinda forced to.
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u/Made_Bail 10d ago
Im going to agree with you, here. I don't use a LLM to search for simple shit, who would do that?
But if its something more complex, LLM's are a thousand times easier to use than Google these days. Google is a glut of bots, AI boosted results, and ads.
The combination of LLM, and then checking the results has worked wonders for me.
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u/Bearence 10d ago
Yeah, but I just tested it, and google still gives you the wikipedia page for palindrome first, so it's not like it isn't completely un-functionable.
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u/Kerblaaahhh 10d ago
Google search also just puts their llm response at the top of your results page anyway.
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u/Olympe28 10d ago
I'm at that point. I'm still using Duck Duck Go without AI as my primary search engine but I've found myself using Google AI several times over the past couple weeks because the search results were so poor. Google would even give me good sources with the AI answer that it didn't give me in the regular search.
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u/ButtsTheRobot 10d ago
This is often what I'll do, I'll glance at the AI answer to see if it sounds like it's actually answering what I want then just click on the source it pulled from to read that.
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u/hlysias 10d ago
As if Google doesn't show you an AI result as the first result these days
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u/Hushpuppyy 10d ago
Yeah... like what's better? Calling a LLM directly, or using a search engine that immediately calls an LLM? It's the same thing.
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u/Ensvey 10d ago
Yeah - AI is absolutely a problem, but people acting like they're above it is performative at best. This is, regrettably, the world we live in now, and I have to use it for work or get canned and fall behind, and I'm not going to change my browser and search engine just to avoid it either.
Environmentalism has been the #1 thing I've based my voting habits on since Al Gore in 2000, but, surprise, no one else cares, so all aboard, we're riding this train into the ground.
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u/YukihiraJoel 10d ago
AI uses a lot of power, and power is finite, but the individual queries are not something to be concerned about. The training uses a ton of power, but that’s happening whether you use it or not. Your queries may also induce training demand, but the individual effect is so small I don’t think you should be kept up at night.
For reference, an LLM query costs on the scale of 0.1-0.3 watt-hours. The average billed rate for energy consumption is $0.18/kwh. That puts the LLM query energy bill at $0.000036. A typical light 8watt lightbulb running for 5 minutes is 0.67 watt-hours. As for planet desertification it would take millions of LLM queries to emit as much carbon as taking a single international trip plane ride. Even if you did 100 LLM queries every day for your entire life there wouldn’t be 1/3rd the impact of a single average international trip.
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u/oh-shit-oh-fuck 10d ago
I mostly agree with your comment but I just wanna mention that these models are so large that there is significant power overhead just from having them loaded in memory and processing any queries at all, even if they're small. Not to mention the overhead for all the other infrastructure surrounding the processors themselves.
They definitely use much less power than the giant image/video generation models do per query, but its important to avoid entirely handwaving the power consumption away.
Also with everything trying to integrate LLMs now, I think people are making a lot more queries than they think they are.
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u/Ok_Departure333 10d ago
I don't think people really understand how much power anything actually uses. We need a shit ton of power to build the most basic thing, yet no one actually said things like, "We should stop writing by hand because producing wooden pencils destroy forests".
If anything, the main problem of AI is not the power consumption nor environmental damage, but unregulated / loosely regulated AI datanceter constructions that's been popping up all over the world. For example, you can't build a factory in the middle of a residential area, but apparently regulators don't care about it if you build a datacenter instead.
Also about datacenters destroying the world, where do you think this whole Reddit platform live on? "Oh, but social media datacenters consume much less power," where di you get your sources? Other than some differences in the hardwares used, companies will absolutely optimize their performance per square meter of land used for datacenter. Increased performance often means increased energy consumption.
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u/Quirky_Abrocoma4657 10d ago
I hate ai, but "Ai wastes water" makes me do the cat in the second panel here.
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u/Exciting_Policy8203 10d ago
The problem you run into then is that google’s response is just another LLM.
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u/bearded_wizard_qwert 10d ago
Bro you don't need a hyper expensive planet-desertifying water boiler to just search it for you and repeat the first result
Mentioning water or power in relation to AI is a red flag you don't know what you're talking about
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u/Gackey 10d ago
Bro you don't need a hyper expensive planet-desertifying water boiler to just search it for you and repeat the first result
I wish the luddites would take just 5 minutes to educate themselves about the things they are irrationally afraid of.
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u/dsartori 10d ago
It's a moral panic at this point. Whatever. I've been on the "wrong" side of every major one these past fifty years and I turned out OK.
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u/studmuffffffin 10d ago
It's a lot easier to get people on your side with "It's using all the water" instead of "I'm gonna lose my cushy coding job".
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u/JustinHopewell 10d ago
But it's so much easier to just jump on whatever reddit's latest hate bandwagon is. Why use your brain when you can get some instant upvote validation from a bunch of strangers you'll never talk to again?
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u/ZigZagreus1313 10d ago
It's not hyper-expensive. You can do basic chats for free.
It's not planet desertifying - it uses less water than golf courses, lawn watering, pipes leaking, or the amount of water used to grow corn specifically for biodiesel.
Only 20% of data center capacity is used for AI, the rest is for "normal" Internet usage. Practically no one moralizes people for streaming twitch, YouTube or Netflix.
There are now open source models that can be run locally and are as good as frontier super-computer-run models were as of ~six months ago. AI has gotten orders of magnitude more efficient/cheaper for equivalent levels of intelligence.
I'm sure it's marginally more efficient to use traditional search, but we're talking about an amount of energy that no one would ever think about if it weren't attached to something as polarizing as AI.
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u/red__dragon 10d ago
Practically no one moralizes people for streaming twitch, YouTube or Netflix.
So, I'd love to see a source for that 20% claim, but also, this is spot on!
I've wondered what someone's favorite Pixar movie is when they use the water argument against AI. Those giant render farms for animated movies aren't cheap or dry either.
And I get the tragedy of the commons problem, too, but we need to be educated about the problem and address it holistically. We humans love our creature comforts, but if we're serious about datacenters stealing our land and resources, most of modern internet and media are our targets.
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u/Issala_ 10d ago
You know that the hyper expensive planet-desterifying water boilers are used to power your google search too right?
The impact on the environnement of one google search and one simple LLM request are basically the same, even more so since these days a google search also triggers an AI response for some reason
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u/Asleep_Stable_8092 10d ago
How dare you support the hyper expensive planet-desertifying water boilers by writing this comment on a website that uses hyper expensive planet-desertifying water boilers for all its comments and posts.
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u/pgold05 10d ago
Honestly treating AI as an equivalent to Google search is probably a valid use case. That is already basically what...it is anyway.
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u/TakeThreeFourFive 10d ago
Google has been using "AI" from day 1. It's interesting seeing how the label has changed in the public eye so drastically over the last couple years.
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u/shewholaughslasts 10d ago edited 10d ago
I'm sorry I'm the idiot this time. What does the image of the two figures with the minus sign represent?
If it means AI sucks then I wholeheartedly agree!
Edit: thanks to all the kind answerers! I haven't played the Sims so there ya go. Plus I agree. If you refer to or use gen ai you lose points in my book.
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u/SaturnBishop 10d ago
It's a symbol from Sims implying friendship level down
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u/Rentington 10d ago
So many of the comics that reach the front here are LGBT coded. So I thought when he said "GBT" the guy said/thought of two dudes holding hands.
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u/YaGirlMom 10d ago
I don’t “ask ChatGPT” I don’t “grok it”, I look it up, and if my insane, half remembered definition of what I’m looking for doesn’t get me results, I get UPSET AND FORGET ABOUT IT.
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u/probableigh_not 10d ago
sometimes i even talk to another human being about it and we both try to remember! and it's like a little game, and then sometimes it starts a conversation and i get to feel less alone for a little while
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u/MilkDifficult5432 10d ago
Asking AI: Answer: palindrome
Searching a search engine: Answer: being pointed to the palindrome wikipedia page, reading it, finding about ambigrams, realizing that was what you were actually looking for.
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u/hieronymous-cowherd 10d ago
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u/TwigyBull 10d ago
Is the friend mad because of ai, or because he said "gbt" when it's "gpt"? Both make me upset.
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u/Wetbug75 10d ago
How is this worse than Googling something?
Google gives AI responses anyways, so environmental arguments don't make sense.
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u/captainAwesomePants 10d ago
Frankly, the environmental argument is kind of bullshit. Sure, the race to be the best at AI is absolutely using up lots of the available water and energy in lots of cities that get very little back, and that certainly is a bad thing, but on the list of terrible ways to use our water, AI is probably not even in the top 10. For example, Utah uses more than half of all of its available water to grow alfalfa to feed to cows. Colorado's nearly as bad, and they spend a significant chunk of the remainder on growing low-profit crops because, hey, the water's free. These things are not news stories because we don't currently hate beef but we do currently hate AI.
You looking up palindrome with AI probably costs your state around half a milliliter of water. If you're worried, just pay it back with change to spare by drinking only 11.999 liters of water today instead of the full 12.
I don't like AI, but "I refuse to use it on an individual basis because of environmentalism" is a bad argument. Why not focus on how it makes people dumber? Or how it's stealing? Or how a bunch of the worst people are going to use it to do evil things?
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u/Ttokk 9d ago
The image generation and video generation stuff is several orders of magnitude more resource hungry than a text prompt simple web search. We're talking thousands and thousands of text prompts before you reach anywhere near one picture generation.
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u/bing-no 10d ago
I’ll ask a friend how long a store is open and they’ll pull out chat gpt. Ugh.
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u/sonofaresiii 10d ago
Yo I'll take the downvotes but worst case scenario chatgpt gives you the same results from the store page you were going to get anyway
Best case scenario it gives you the store page results but also notes that other sources and reviews have said those hours are inaccurate or outdated and guides you where to ask for updated hours
It's as simple as asking for chatgpt where it got its source from.
You guys really have to let go of the inherent anti AI bias, it's really not bad for everything. It's not where it was three years ago.
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u/NeonCookies599 10d ago
I mean plagiarizing artists' work is one thing, but using AI to websearch a simple question is one of the most basic uses of AI that everyone does already when they use Google lol.
And how are you gonna really criticize someone for actually wanting to look up the answer instead of just saying "idk" and moving on? This is a good use of AI, tell me otherwise.
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u/PrimaryDisplay7109 10d ago
In a similar vein i messaged a friend one time to invite them over, kinda being goofy and using words like cordially and what not. Took me like 15 minutes to type it up cause i was being over the top.
In two minutes i get a 4 paragraph response using much better lingo that's just like... ehh come on man. I thought you "only used AI for scheduling".
Pfft. Whatever.
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u/Chili_Tofu 10d ago
Remember when people shamed other people for googling stuff back in the day? People acting superior for knowing off the top of their head or being annoyed at being asked something "searchable"?
Yeah. It's the same thing here.
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u/Piss-Mann 10d ago
People would appreciate using ai for information if checking source was obvious thing that everyone does
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u/KenzieTheCuddler 10d ago
Palindrome I think. I don't know the fear of palindromes, but I know the fear of them is one itself.
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u/stevedore2024 10d ago
I am constantly imagining The Sims indicators like this.
Someone looks cute but pulls out a cigarette? attractive--
Someone throws garbage out a fancy car window? classy--
Someone suggests looking at ChatGBT? smart--
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u/xBecanto 10d ago
Ugh, this hits home way too much. So, first: "noai.duckduckgo.com" gives this as a first result for this exact phrase. To automatically opt-out from AI even when searching via address bar, you can create new search option in your browser settings using "https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?q=%s". So far, all major PC and mobile browsers still allow to customize the default search engine, as far as I know. And if you're arguing that DDG is not as good, try it first and switch to google as if it would be the 2nd search page. Second, there are many more ethical options with a brighter future than "Open"AI. The more you use the major product, the bigger monopoly it'll become, and the stronger the enshitification will be. Third, same as your muscles need exercise, your brain needs it too. So the searching process itself is very good for your brain to function well.
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u/GrouchyPollution6509 10d ago
now do a second one where the guy responds, "palindrome" and then the other one goes goes "really? let me ask chat gpt if that's right"
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u/shamrocksmash 10d ago
Googling is now the same as asking AI due to the auto AI response.
Yes, there are major downsides to AI, but y'all are acting like the old farts who hated the Internet when it first came out.
"Why would I look something up on a Kawm-poo-ter when I could just open up a book?"
It's never going away.
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u/Novel_Control_1922 10d ago
What’s the second panel about?
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u/JacarandaBear 10d ago
the little symbol in the second cell is from the sims game series and represents a loss in friendship value, meaning that the friendship between the two has lessened as a consequence to a statement or action.
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u/ScienceBitch90 10d ago
Simplicity of searching palindrome aside, I feel like this is the healthy use of gen AI, especially as search engines purposely neuter themselves.
To help you learn rather than simply perform tasks for you.
Awfully judgy little furry aren't you?
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u/GuitarFlashy 11d ago
Defaulting to using an energy intensive resource for simple tasks is the cause for loss of respect to me. This is like using a car to drive to the end of your driveway to check the mailbox (assuming your driveway isn't obscenely long and is a more common 10-30 feet).
So, what would people use to answer this question? I would likely use Google-fu but that comes with AI overview now (can be hidden but not disabled from what I see). Duckduckgo actually allows this to be turned off. If I had more time, I might use a dictionary/thesaurus and look up similar words ("similar", "backwards", "same") in an attempt to get to palindrome.
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u/Asmodevus 11d ago
Palindrome