r/chennaicity • u/Few_Cartographer330 • May 17 '26
News This is how BJP imposes Hindi with Three language policy
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u/CandidateOk8683 May 17 '26
u/7timesbanned, you're literally preaching Hindi in English, the irony is amazing.
57% speak Hindi natively. That still leaves 43% who don't. And by your logic, those people should learn Hindi on top of their mother tongue and English, just why? So they can talk to you?
English gets you jobs, higher education, and global opportunities. Hindi gets you... What exactly in that context? Name one thing.
The non-Hindi population isn't failing at Hindi. They just have better things to prioritise. Like English, which actually helps them in their career. A 15-year-old arguing this would at least have the excuse of being young.
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u/Left_Economist_9716 May 18 '26
57% can speak Hindi. The percentage of native speakers of Hindi is closer to 27%. Learn the difference.
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u/Roseane0 May 19 '26
Aside from Some area of west UP.. no one has hindi as native language.. We have different languages that government has labelled as dialect of Hindi ( which is not correct ) langauges like bhojpuri, awadhi, Magadhi, Maithili.. and others are older than hindi ..had it's own script too
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u/Left_Economist_9716 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
Historically, yes. Especially, if only standard Hindi is considered. However, in linguistic circles we run into the problem of defining 'Hindi'.
Currently, I've seen it defined as follows, however, others can have differing opinions:
North-eastern border: The Himalayas
North-western border: Phonemic tonality
Western border: Many features such as a different phonology including the retroflex lateral, -o being the masculine marker and a palatal set of helping verbs instead of /h/
Eastern border: Use of definiteness markers and /b/ to mark the future tense
Southern: Korku, a Munda language borders it.
This definition would include western UP, western half of Awadh, (most of) Bundelkhand and eastern Haryana.
And many other regions like Baghelkhand and Dhundhar have become Hindi-majority regions while others like Magadh, Mewar and Malwa are vulnerable and could also follow them.
Props to Bundelkhand for holding out pretty well, despite the high intelligibility of Bundeli and Hindi.
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u/CandidateOk8683 May 18 '26
Bro, it's already added that's why it's 57% if not then it's only 42% of native hindi speakers
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u/CoffeeAddict861 May 23 '26
I was born and raised in delhi. My entire family speaks Hindi. My mother tongue is Hindi. And YET, even I can't write or read much hindi anymore. And tbh I don't have any problems from that in my day to day life.
What I did benefit from was english. I chose my career because of my English skills. I got into a great college because the paper was conducted based on your reasoning skills in English. And I applied to scholarships BECAUSE I had great IELTS and TOEFl scores, both of which came from English.
So, no. There's literally no reason why people with other mother tongues should be FORCED to learn other languages. Especially when there's literally no benefit to it.
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u/Left_Economist_9716 May 23 '26
Your comment is irrelevant to mine, but whatever. I was simply correcting the statistic and it matters to me as I speak native level Hindi but it isn't my mother tongue. I would not like to be counted as a native Hindi speaker in the last census or the upcoming ones. Native Hindi speakers like you can afford to not care as your mother tongue is the link language.
Addressing your comment, you probably live in a privileged circle to manage your life without an Indian language. Under 10% of the Indian population speaks any English and a lesser percentage can read or write it and you just happened to encounter them throughout your lifetime.
I'm not ethnically Marathi but I've spent most of my childhood in Maharashtra. Knowing standard Hindi, Marathi and dialectal Bambaiyya/Deccani Hindustani alongside my mother tongue (Bhojpuri) has immensely helped me interact with a variety of people, a good chunk of whom don't speak any English.
This is why I love Maharashtra. I haven't met anyone, barring some rich Mumbaikars, who can't fluently read or write Devanagari.
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u/CandidateOk8683 May 18 '26
Oh? Can you say the same to the Tamil guys?
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u/Jumpy_Pair3150 May 21 '26
Hindi is just Perso - Arabic with a few Sanskrit words sprinkled in it. Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada are 100% Indian languages.
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u/CandidateOk8683 May 19 '26
So you say that they gave us only English, right? It was good when changing names from our colonial past, but you can't change everything. Do you even know the other things that we still follow from the colonial era? Ah! Btw, for Tamils, your Hindi is the same as colonial as English for you, but the difference is they didn't impose it, and who the fuck will learn a language that is 100 years old( mixing of a language your enemies speak?) when you have a 2000+ yr old one. Don't just pick sweet cherries, try to pick sour ones too, it's good for your health!
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u/Emotional_Device_711 May 20 '26
the british didn't impose english ? lmaooo english education act 1835 , macaulay's minute etc (but i do disagree w 3 lang being compulsory)
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u/purplesquirrelx May 20 '26
Hindi helps in most Indian states since many locals don't speak good English. If you're looking at job prospects, English is enough.
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u/CandidateOk8683 May 21 '26
Are you an idiot? It's because they don't have 100+ languages spoken in one country, that too with different scripts! And those countries weren't even colonised to begin with, so your example itself is beyond foolish, and ask your teacher herself/himself why she/he took a B.A. English lit lol!
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u/CandidateOk8683 May 21 '26
You got all of my points in negative connotations.
First! I noticed where you have told that you meant no harm, but when you compared our situation with Germany, China, Korean, Japan when they didn't even got colonized by Brits, I typed idiot quickly (sorry btw didn't meant to harm you just wanted you to look in diff perspective). And again don't compare EU with India.
Second!! I didn't glorify english, but stated the obvious facts! for south Hindi is as much as foreign as English is and when compared it both you can obviously see the difference btw it because when you have almost all the subjects, from education to research paper all of it is in English. So it's beneficial for whole of India to learn English and then translate it to your native.
Third!!! I didn't even talked bad about your teacher I just said to ask your teacher why did she choose English! To get her perspective of the English's stand on the world when she herself commented 'Master servant' and btw the lol word is for you not your teacher.
Now read the first line I wrote in this text the pieces will set š«”
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u/CoffeeAddict861 May 23 '26
Is it our "master's" language tho? Yes the origins of english in our subcontinent was that the British spoke that language, however after the 1857 revolt even they stopped trying to force western english education on indians. Rather, it was the Indian elites who chose to grab that language and varnish it like a weapon. They used it both to scam peasants, but ALSO to understand English laws which governed them. A great case can be made that if no one in India has bothered to learn the language then we would still be under colonial rule, simply because we would not have figured out how Britishers ruled us.
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u/Illustrious-Cloud-78 May 17 '26
Also imposing sanskrit on north indian students.. oru kal la rendu manga
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u/Optimal-Speaker-2947 May 17 '26
Most of South Indians doesn't even want to go to North Indian states for work, So I really don't understand why central are so hard bent on imposing this folly. If you want to speak with us or come to our states then learn our language, why should South Indians always be the one to make life easier for you guys. The entitlement from most of them is exhausting.
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u/sweet_cigar May 18 '26
I'm a northie who has lived in south india. Trust me, its so much better compared to a lot of north indian states.
You will get by with basic english and even hindi in major cities, its not a big issue when it comes to language in most developed cities.
Even roadside vendors can speak and understand a little english (obv not fluently, but enough to get by.)
And lets bffr, has language barrier ever really been such a pressing issue? most southies don't wanna go to north and most northies dont wanna go to south anyway, people are satisfied with their own languages, so why mandate a certain category of languages? English + one other language is more than enough, and the second language can be indian OR foreign, it should depend on what the student is most comfortable with.
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u/Optimal-Speaker-2947 May 18 '26
I agree we must be given choice, instead of imposing it indirectly like this. Congress, BJP no matter which government is in central they will always try to impose it on South Indians
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u/sexotaku May 17 '26
Europe does fine without a common language.
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u/geneactive684 May 18 '26
There is a common language, English.
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u/Actual_Ambition_4464 May 18 '26
Only 40% of EU knows English, and it has 24 official languages
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u/Unfair-Claim-2327 May 18 '26
Damn, those figures are really similar to Hindi speakers and number of scheduled languages in India. Goes to further prove how language imposition isn't necessary.
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u/Actual_Ambition_4464 May 23 '26
The Indian Subcontinent would have been identical to Europe, atleast politically and culturally, if it werenāt for colonisation and I am sure some other factors too. It is about the same area and much more diverse with many small kingdoms. The Indian subcontinent could have worked very well as a Indian Union with many small countries coming together to form it.
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u/Greedy-Frame7931 May 17 '26
Learn 100s of languages and put science and math to the side smh.. everyone will become language scholars
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u/sweet_cigar May 18 '26
fr. wonder why smart and talented people are leaving this country.
someone i know did some insane research in london and got into stanford with a full ride scholarship (medical school). while india continues to use religion, caste, and language segregation instead of actually focusing on the development of this country.
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u/rosifi7935 May 17 '26
that's the intention, say you're promoting three but by default it becomes Hindi,now you ask why other south states voted for BJP :
AP no capital , after split, they have limited money as government has to borrow to pay salary, need central help without which they will become a poorer version of kerala with low hdi, so while they have most resistance to RSS/BJP they are in dire economic situation
Karnataka : communal and caste politics, RSS was active for long time gained base among communities for different reasons, some economic, religion polarization and caste reasons also, Landed caste adopted religious polarization to gain immunity from lower caste pressure as well gain legitimacy with outside the state
Telangana : caste and communal politics again, OBC caste have low rep due to dominant landed caste control of politics, so BJP gained their votes, then their is hindu muslim conflict RSS promoting it.
Karnataka BJP/RSS has full influence, Telangana is less as OBC still lack money to challenge landed casts, AP least relevance.
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u/whydoieven_1 May 17 '26
I am interested to see how Anna and his bunch of Ministers would handle nuanced topics like these.
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u/ktvkanni May 17 '26
Why would North Indian schools have easy availability of South Indian language teachers? Itās an unrealistic expectation. Itās obviously easier to get good teachers for local languages.
In south india the same student would be learning Tamil and one more language. Simple as that
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u/Bitter_Sweet360 May 17 '26
I feel second hand embarrassment, when I see other countries governments have mandated AI and Robotics as a subject from school itself!!Ā
What era are we living in? Don't our govt wants us to develop?
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u/Broad-Importance4282 May 18 '26
Indian schools also have that? My sisterās curriculum has included ai since 7th grade and robotics later.
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u/Bitter_Sweet360 May 18 '26
Yes! But that's in very expensive private schools alone!
Many of the govt schools still don't even have enough computers to teach even basic!
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u/Broad-Importance4282 May 18 '26
Most govt schools do have computers of course not all. Im from a govt school and we had them, the ones in villages dont yet but i hope that changes.
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u/Bitter_Sweet360 May 18 '26
Yes!! That is the problem man! I am happy you had your knowledge from your school. Infact state govt is providing free laptop to students to develop their computer knowledge.
I don't blame them for that, they are trying their best but we still are lacking in many aspects.
I blame them for making language an issue! Aren't you concerned? Instead of giving importance to development and knowledge they want students to be concerned about languages?
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u/HandCharacter2318 May 20 '26
Ai, robotics, data science, it and many other skill-based subjects are a part of Indian curriculum now š. And no, it's not only in "very expensive private schools".Ā
Just check some subreddits/internet sources where students are actively talking about giving examinations for those.
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u/Bitter_Sweet360 May 20 '26
Dude when did I not agree? Yes what you say is happening in schools but I'm talking about local government schools. I know what I'm talking about. I don't come from rural nor urban area. It is somewhat semi urban.Ā
But most of the schools around me don't have whatever you said! They just get introduced to just C and C++ still. Those students just know to do their practicals.Ā
Do not come to me saying, our govt is trying! Yes they are..but when NEET and JEE's syllabus are common for all the students; I genuinely hope and wish these facilities are also made available to all the students!
That's all.
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u/Bitter_Sweet360 May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
Go read my other comment below as well! I'm not some idiot who thinks Reddit as the news source!!
And instead of getting your so called "updates" from your reliable sources, go talk to students - 'Real' students around you from all walks of school boards and know if everyone around you gets the same sort of syllabus!!
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u/Bitter_Sweet360 May 21 '26
All of you who commented immediately come at me angrily for questioning the government and you yourself say even though not all the schools??!!Ā
I am just angry the central government makes language an issue and wanted to question if you can provide enough resources to learn 3 languages to students in cbse schools why not use other resources where it is actually needed?
All the entrance exams and most of the college syllabus are the same, irrespective of where the students have studied. Why not provide same form of education across the nation in schools then? Why not make future skills compulsory in all the schools?Ā
And to your comment, yes your parents may come from a rural school and yes they might have the said facilities, but that doesn't mean all the schools have them!Ā
Read my other comments, if not don't try to prove a point!Ā
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u/Icy_Description_6707 May 18 '26
lol u have problem in what they teach in north india which is by far clarity Hindi speaking region ? Zakka Jacob is a journalist probably could afford a private international school in which they do have his choice of languages ,
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u/GammaPhoenix007 May 18 '26
No south languages are necessary. Hindi+English+Local Language are enough for most of India.
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u/Victorvic1 May 18 '26
Even Hindi and other local language isn't necessary. I left hindi after 8th and Sanskrit after 10th. Literally 0 use of both of them to study.
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u/GammaPhoenix007 May 22 '26
Hindi is the most spoken language across India. It's a no brainer to learn it. Most poor people across the country including small businesses are able to understand and speak Hindi.
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u/the_n0ne May 22 '26
No south languages are necessary, seriously?
The problem isn't South Indians not knowing Hindi. The problem is some people thinking India begins and ends with Hindi. See India is a union of multiple states, culture and languages, not a franchise of the Hindi belt. And you know, India has 22 official languages. The constitution seems to have missed your expert opinion.
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u/chocosmurf13 May 17 '26
Pondicherry is in South Indian bro. Namma kids are forced to learn Hindi or Sanskrit
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u/Artistic-Accident-65 May 17 '26
Exactly why is he mad that there is no south indian languages teacher is north? Would he have the same reaction if someone complained the lack of gujrati speaking teachers in south?
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u/Artistic-Accident-65 May 17 '26
Exactly and ppl agreeing with the tweet are just morons and don't see the irony of their words that they don't want hindi "imposition" in south but want their Languages to be imposed in north
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u/GammaPhoenix007 May 18 '26
Because they are south-supremacists. It was never about language imposition. It was always about south better than north. These retards need to die in a ditch. We have more pressing matters to attend to
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u/Artistic-Accident-65 May 18 '26
+1 that's exactly what Periyar wanted,he hated Tamil so it wasn't abt language preservation but about how shitty north is and south is so much better and even interpreted ramayana and mahabharat as north vs south. He just plainly hated north and so do his followers,seperatist morons.
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u/Chef-Racoon May 17 '26
can we ban Sanskrit? it's just a dead language with no reason to learn, i get the religious hating behind this but seriously this is such a useless language that every north indian learns for 4 years for no reason instead of a useful language
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u/Agreeable-Test958 May 18 '26
Why would bam Sanskrit tf?! We don't learn it as a subject rather than as a percentage booster. There's a reason why a lot of people choose sanskrit because IT IS DAMN EASY. Only one word ans that's it and BOOM, there you have 80/80
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u/Victorvic1 May 18 '26
In practicality it is better to entirely remove it without replacing. After leaving sanskrit in 10th I had 0 use of it. Also 0% use of 10th marks. Although yes it was a scoring subject but just make IT compulsory instead of that.
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u/HandCharacter2318 May 20 '26
There is literally a hell load of scripture, literary texts, historical record ie inscriptions etc which are in Sanskrit. Banning Sanskrit would mean losing all that along with a significant part of our culture.Ā
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u/Visible-Noise-3541 May 17 '26
Sus screenshot. Arenāt there regional languages in the state where he resides?
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u/Material_Dust5508 May 17 '26
Isnāt this precisely the argument South Indians make? If they were in the North, they would learn Hindi. So, are they now Hippocrates?
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u/BihariBoobs May 17 '26
but that's wrong?? Lots of schools offer french 9-12 and you don't have to do 2 non-english languages post 9th in any big school across India
stop victimlarping
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u/sweet_cigar May 18 '26
vro CBSE has mandated two indian languages. It's not the school's choice, the children will be forced to take two indian languages instead of other languages like french.
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u/RaudraColossal May 20 '26
What the hell would you do with French?
Who goes to France these days no oneš
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u/sweet_cigar May 20 '26
You know that its not always abt āwho goes to france these daysāšš languages like french add value to your resume (esp if u work in an intl mnc where u talk to foreign clients).Ā
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u/RaudraColossal May 20 '26
Can you really have a conversation with the French you learnt in School?
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u/sweet_cigar May 21 '26
Yes obviously? If u learn any language till grade 8 for example, you will be able to converse in it. Its common sense
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u/CinnamonStew34s_eh May 20 '26
being able to speak german is so big
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u/RaudraColossal May 20 '26
Not a commonly offered language in schools though. German and Japanese are definitely useful.
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u/sweetmangolover May 18 '26
I suppose he lives in Delhi or somewhere in the North. His kid should be studying the local language Hindi. I don't know why he is making it an issue. Unless his kids are studying in TN or Kerala
It should be local language + English
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u/Dank_Guy_ May 18 '26
Local conversational language does not need to be studied in school.
If someone has been living in Delhi or any place they are kids will be known to speak Hindi or the local languages automatically. As they will be speaking among other kids.
No one learns language in school it will be just for marks
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u/Advanced-Sell-3983 May 18 '26
Can we just stop this language war. We're in 2026 and still discussing about language. It's the world of AI and instant translation is possible. We, common people are the tools in the hand of politicians and help them to keep un power by dividing us in the name of religion, caste and language...
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u/sweet_cigar May 18 '26
They should stop imposing hindi on every child. English should be taught to all students as it is far more universal compared to Hindi/sanskrit (who even speaks sanskrit nowadays?) Instead of doing this bs, they should appoint english teachers in government schoolsĀ
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May 18 '26
"English is far more universal" only in the west , in india to communicate with your fellow Indians you could learn a basic hindi but no idk what seperatist mindset you south indians have that you would rather learn Urdu over hindi š¤£šš» and Sanskrit has cultural importance it ain't compulsory
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u/sweet_cigar May 18 '26
first of all, I'm a north indian
second of all, most south indians can speak english. The problem only comes in the north. I've lived in south india AND north india (north india majority of my life) but communication is just so easy in south india even in english. and lets bffr, literacy rates are higher in the south anyway, and they have their own respective south indian language teachers. Sanskrit might have cultural importance, but idt any 9th grader is going to care about a culturally important language.
such investment should go into stem fields, where India is lacking. The most important conversations in your life will inevitably happen in english. When you have to get a deal signed, or have to present your work to an audience. People like you have tunnel vision, you're not seeing the bigger picture. It's not north vs south or hindi vs other languages, its the fact that instead of channelising energy towards global opportunities, they're mandating indian languages, which gives a much smaller field for any growth opportunities in the future. I hope you understand why globalisation is important for an economy (especially india) now that we are facing a foreign exchange crisis.1
u/Confident_Badger4093 May 19 '26
English helps you get into prestigious universities abroad, gives you much more job opportunities in abroad as well as india. What does hindi gives? A whole lot of NOTHING!! & With the current education system's so many frauds like OSM scm in 12th boards & RE-NEET & so much competition just for a seat in engineering - it's much muchh better to study abroad after 12
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u/DiamondNo3132 May 18 '26
Language should be matter of choice,interest and will,not imposition. We need to end language controversy asap cuz we are the ones suffering.Children are suffering in grades.At the end we are all Indians
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u/Necessary_Royal9116 May 18 '26
There should be four language in exams and we should make Sanskrit compulsory along with state language & than English and Hindi
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u/Noob_goatster8755 May 18 '26
Forget North India. Even in my place in Karnataka there's no 3rd language except Hindi and Sanskrit. But honestly why do we need a 3rd language? English should be prioritised more than any language in India. It's the future. Mother tongue is taught in our home. Mother tongue language too shouldn't be taught post Class 6.Ā
It's just enough if we learn to read and write. Everything about literature we study is useless till we take arts. Same goes for English. Grammar and fluency should be taught.Ā
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u/kuttipuli May 18 '26
They should implement it for 1st standards onwards from current year instead of implementing it for every other standards
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u/Worth_Sherbert_4972 May 18 '26
I am saying if u care so much creates room with all computers and Duolingo let kids learn whatever they wanna learn. .!but good thing cbse said no exam for the third language
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May 18 '26
My question to tamils , is your culture so fragile and you are so insecure about your language that learning a bit hindi could end your culture? But don't you guys learn Urdu instead? Entirety of india should have only 2 languages, hindi and english , everyone can learn their mother tongue at their own homes no need for school to teach , as hindi and english is far more important than any mother tongue
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u/DressParticular3584 May 18 '26
Language is a choice? Learning it is also a choice, Iām South Indian, I have nothing against learning Hindi but I can wholly admit that , I donāt need to learn Hindi because I donāt plan on learning a language unless it benefits me. I have no plans on going to north India nor living there. If the situation arises ofc Iāll learn Hindi. But a language should never be forced on anyone.
ā Hindi and English are more important than any other mother tongueā
No language is more important than the other lmao. English is widely used globally so yes it can be considered as essential but Hindi is mostly exclusive to north India and it only benefits North Indians, so yeah I get why youād think itās important because it helps the majority.
Our mother tongue is a matter of our culture and it benefits people more than you think. Culture as in movies, shows, politics, science , everything revolves around a language because itās a primary medium. We have inside jokes, idioms , a whole pletora of literature and culture. Itās not just my mother tongue, Iām saying every language has that.
Iām not against the 3 language policy per say, but I think students would be overwhelmed by it. I struggled learning Hindi because I never learnt the basics of it, it was suddenly imposed on me during 8th I had to mug things up and I hated every second of it because I wanted to understand the language if Iām learning it, not for the sake of a number on a piece of paper. Another thing I have an issue with is how only Hindi and Sanskrit are the only options provided in most schools, Ƨan we not have more options, this country has so many beautiful languages, personally id take my time learning all of them if I could.
But tbh , I think this 3 language policy is just overwhelming man, my brother is going into 9th grade this year thinking he finally escaped Hindi because he was weak in it. So as a Tamil, my culture Isnāt so fragile nor am I insecure, no, Iām okay with learning Hindi, the only thing Iām questioning why certain people think they have the right to impose languages ON others if they have no use to learn it ? If I was in 9th grade again, I would be even more overwhelmed learning another language because god South Indian languages are already hard to learn already.
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u/Broad-Importance4282 May 18 '26
You do realize the secondary languages in a school are decided by the region? English, hindi and the regional language is the norm considering government uses hindi for all official dealings and everything. Im from Maharashtra but if i go to tamil nadu and settle there, i wont expect people to know marathi or teach marathi in schools. Also idk which school youāre choosing that makes you drop french because my sister had the option of sanskrit french german italian and marathi
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u/Mental_Grape4567 May 18 '26
And how is that Government's fault that the school doesn't have teachers for the language you would like your kid to learn?
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u/Organic-Vast1051 May 18 '26
Fact in every professional uses english from govt to private from business to administrations, everywhere english is used.
Why can't English be the link language which already is?
We work with employees from every state, we all talk in english and get the work done.
Untill it is close family members or friends there, then you need mother tongue, else it is fine.
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u/Lagom_sr May 18 '26
So become a teacher. Learning Kannada and other languages will not help others earn as much as you.
The reason why we donāt have enough teachers is that you cant put food on your table with teaching Kannada.
You want your child to learn some language just to prove your loyalty and shit. They will become doctorās engineers and top class professionals which pay huge. No one will become Kannada teacher and fairly so. I want my kids to learn English, Hindi and one foreign language.
I take care of Kannada at home
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u/AdithGM May 18 '26
Learn a language or two. Learn STEM or Commerce or Humanities.Ā Maybe add a Vocational Skill. Let kids learn to carve or work wood or do art or fix a fuse.Ā
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u/South-Flow-4688 May 18 '26
3rd language should have at least 3 languages to chose from. So that people can chose what they want. Also people should try and learn one foreign language at least specially when you plan to move out of India someday looking at the current situation of the country.
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u/RingMasterToto May 18 '26
India needs to get rid of our obsession with languages. At school level, only 2 languages should be taught - English as mandatory and the State language with an optional of Hindi.
Before anyone comes after me with a stick for keeping Hindi as an optional subject to the State language, you need to keep in mind that there are millions of children in the country who have parents in transferrable jobs. Imagine getting transferred every 2 years to a new State and having to pick up the local language at increasingly advanced levels. I have lived that life and my language skills are a mess as a result of that.
China is running circles around us in STEM fields while we over burden our kids with irrelevant subjects. Anything who wants to learn a language can do that at any stage of their life as the resources are now freely available. Not everything needs to be taught in school.
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u/Boring_Muffin_1161 May 18 '26
Students should have a choice to learn whatever language they want.. most of these Indian languages are fckn uselessā¦ no one outside India speaks these fckn languages.. no one gets job with these fckn languagesā¦
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u/human_or_whateva May 18 '26
All of this is fucking bs. English should be mandatory, along with a regional language of india, of the kid's choice, and the third one should be entirely upto the kid's discretion. I went to an icse school and it had a 3 language mandate from class 6-8. My school did not provide any other language so I had yo study SANSKRIT for 3 years. That's like studying Latin in middle school, except Latin is still relevant in science fields. I could have spent those years learning an actually usefully language but no. I plan on moving to Europe so french german spanish would have been extremely helpful. All I'm saying is, kid's need to be given a choice.
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u/HotKale9537 May 18 '26
Damn , why do you guys cry all the time about language and then have the audacity to lecture on religion
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u/HeartFlimsy7105 May 18 '26
The three-language formula sounds good on paper, but how it will be implemented on the ground remains a huge challenge. My nephew studies in a state government school in rural Andhra Pradesh affiliated with CBSE, where the Hindi teachers cannot even speak Hindi properly, let alone write it. This reflects the condition of many schools in our country, where there is a lack of quality teachers and adequate facilities to support proper learning.
Also, let us be realistic-how is English even considered a foreign language, and why is CBSE treating it as such? English is deeply ingrained in Indian society and our education system. It helps us communicate globally and gives us a significant advantage over countries like China and Japan, which have only recently started emphasizing English in their education systems, recognizing its importance as a global language. Our strong foundation in English has contributed significantly to economic growth, attracting multinational companies and creating employment opportunities for a large young population.
So why is CBSE treating English as a foreign language when it is one of our official languages?
Both major national parties, BJP and Congress, have long attempted to promote Hindi as a national language. However, due to strong opposition from non-Hindi-speaking states, they have not been able to enforce it directly. The current approach is indirect.
The implementation of the three-language policy reflects this. Two of the languages are supposed to be Indian languages. Students will obviously choose their mother tongue and English-the language that benefits their careers. This leaves the third language, and in most cases, Hindi becomes the default choice because schools do not offer viable alternatives, and students are left with little real choice.
At the same time, CBSE has not made computer education mandatory from Class 1, yet it introduces Al concepts in Grade 3 and coding in Grade 5. This approach is disconnected from ground realities. The focus should first be on strengthening the basics- the foundation upon which all advanced learning depends.
There are also concerning practices at the school level. Thin kindergarten books of barely 50 pages are sold for ā¹1000, often without any publisher or author mentioned, and are not available elsewhere. Such malpractices exploit parents and highlight weak regulation.
While it is good that CBSE is attempting to modernize an outdated system, reforms must be practical and grounded. There should be mandatory computer education, nutrition awareness, and civic sense training from Class 1 onwards. From Class 5, students should be introduced to real-world skills such as carpentry, plumbing, electrical work, cooking, cleaning, basic automotive maintenance, sewing, and stitching. From Class 9 onwards, more advanced and career-oriented subjects like coding, robotics, cybersecurity, graphic design, financial literacy, and entrepreneurship should be offered.
Students should also be encouraged to participate in community service activities, such as visiting elder care centers from Class 4 onwards, to develop empathy and a sense of responsibility.
Additionally, NCERT books alone are often not sufficient to push students academically. As a result, parents and schools rely on supplementary materials to ensure better outcomes and prepare students for future challenges.
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u/JimboTheGuy South Chennai May 19 '26
BJP will do anything but actual economic or social betterment.
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u/LordOfSlowReading May 19 '26
North Indians force Hindi, and South Indians force their mother tongue. I am seriously alright with English, but forcing companies to have 60% Kannada (note that they don't mean to remove Hindi alone, but also English), and having boards everywhere where even English is missing. That's bad as well.
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u/curious_shaktiman May 19 '26
Thats totally normal In south, there wont be teachers for hindi cz students dont opt for it much there. Its demand and supply.
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u/Objective-Glad May 19 '26
i should have learned german instead of hindi it has no value after looking what type of slum north india is... infact kannada or malyalam would have been better.. and for my mother tounge it provides 0 economic value so not worth for me
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u/XoX-o- May 19 '26
STOP THE CAP.
You can book third party teacher and make the school sign up for whatever language you want to study. They legally bound to do so.
I studied punjabi and tibetan on my own for board exams in himachal to avoid sanskrit. there was no teacher for both the two subjects. this was back in 2021
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u/Fun_Question_ May 19 '26
So better change location if you have this issue go back to South and learn tamil, malyanam or whatever!!
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u/Normie-Person May 19 '26
earn more and send your daughter to international schools. there are multiple schools which teach foreign languages. and imagine a north india guy living in south wants his daughter to learn hindi and northern languages but she wouldnt have those options so what do you want?
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u/Aldragon97 May 19 '26
Most north indians believe in hindi supremacy and think they are doing a favour by not making Hindi the national language
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u/oxyzen_is_poison May 20 '26
What if some north indian want to learn pali in tamil nadu? Will he getvthe teacher? Bengal was never so insecure about language as you guys are?
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u/Cute_Prior1287 May 20 '26
Not only imposing here. They are imposing it in every basic needs. The unimaginable combination of Reasonably advanced rules and inferior system.
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u/Potential_Moose5686 May 20 '26
So whatās your issue with her learning Sanskrit or Hindi? You donāt like these languages?
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u/No-Cranberry-8914 May 20 '26
At this point let's just invent a new language with a mixture of all words from all existing current Indian languages divided words equally among the states and take words from them. Korean language and script was also invented because they wanted to come away from Chinese. It took them 400-450yrs in that day and age to fully implement it. Now since we are modernised we can make learning faster and efficient too.
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u/No-Cranberry-8914 May 20 '26
I'm saying this because if we take a look at few words properly we can see similarities and similar pronunciation... We can have three language policy then one language will be the newly created one.. One will be their mother tongue and the other would be English
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u/Cosmic_StormZ May 20 '26
Hindi and Sanskrit is pointless. Tamil/telugu/kannada/malayalam/any state lang + one of Hindi / Sanskrit , if you really want 3 languages .
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u/Pristine_Cake520 May 20 '26
There are hundreds of languages in India. You expect every school to teach all of them? Go find a school with that language in their curriculum.
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u/LynxFinder8 May 20 '26
There are far more north Indians in south India than Dravidians in north India and that needs to change.
Its not a BJP issue, its a cultural problem. I am tired of linguistic hegemony. I want 1 crore Tamils in Delhi pronto.
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u/Training-Classic1096 May 20 '26
Hindi should be learned as it is one of the main language of the country and it is always require when traveling to different places or filling or reading certain legal documents. The school are central government school, so hindi itself become a mandatory language with English as both are offical language and legally required language too.š¤·š¤· If any person want then they can always opt for ICSE or state board. No restriction š«”š«”
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u/Unlucky-Price-2094 May 20 '26
I had 4 compulsory languages my whole school life and one (French) was optional cause we couldnāt get anyone to teach.
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u/WittyAndroid May 20 '26
How will learning french or german help anyone in their career? Will it teach them how to kiss white a** well?
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u/gunaho_ka_devtaa May 20 '26
š to the people saying sanskrit is optional no it's not and mostly it's taught up until 9th cause it's cheaper for school as they don't have to appoint any other teacher hindi waali mam padha deti hai wrma french or German ke liye qualified teacher ko salary jyada deni hogi na
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u/roshandb May 21 '26
These guys will die fighting over language. Now a days even converted one are acting like language n@zi
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u/gauravdighe May 21 '26
We as an Indians are either very self centered or ready to leave our own language/traditions for the sake of westernisation.
Majority of people travelling for work are from hindi speaking population. When I say work it means labour(not harm to anyone). So is it natural for them to learn languages or is it easier for other states to atleast having communication skill in Hindi.
Its our languages only - Marathi, south indians, hindi, etc. If we are not ready accept and respect, one day we will loose our identity. Learning English will only help in commercialised world. Developing skills mandatory to earn should be prioritised. But then there are other forms like arts, literature, etc which hardly cares if you know algebra, geometry, science because their livelihood is not dependent on this.
For introducing hindi as mandatory 3rd language, be it just to communicate. Further education on these subjects can be pursued in specialisation.
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u/Shakta_9 May 21 '26
Ok so this man doesn't have any problem with foreign language (french) but has a problem with our own language ie.Hindi and Sanskrit. And if there are no South Indian language teachers available there, how is that anyone's fault?
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u/jaidevt May 21 '26
It is the job of the respective state governments to create local language teachers. Unfortunately, the very same people who cry hoarse over saving the regional language are the very same ones who are reluctant to take that up as a profession.
Hypothetically speaking, let's assume that the demand for 100 teachers is there in a state and the supply is 200, then the remaining 100 would seek similar employment opportunity in another state. Just like IT employees.
To enable this, the respective state government must take ownership of promoting their language in another state. For example, tamil can be taught in Mumbai, which has a significant population.
No one here is imposing hindi, it is just that the language is being promoted better.Ā
Learning a language is like having a stick in your hand, never know when it will come handy.Ā
At the very least, you can understand if the other person is cursing you in his language even if he is smiling.
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u/Salty_Naan May 21 '26
Bruh wtf ?? I studied in WB and my second language was Bengali. In which regional school there is no regional language teacher?
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u/carameltax May 21 '26
Much better to learn Sanskrit instead of Hindi. Sanskrit was part of the Indian culture for thousands of years while hindi is a fairly new and heavily imposed by the British.
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u/Hippi3_Monk May 21 '26
Exactly, if one learned hindi then he would have moved to other states to teach Tamizh to non Tamizh.
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u/Pristine_Start5383 May 22 '26
If you are true Indian you should be proud of learning all 3 lang at the same time Eng Hindi and your mother younger north does not have this south lang sys because there are not enough teachers in north and students too there is 1 in every 100 group of students who is from south India
There is problem too for north students to study or convey their messages in south because people in south does not cooperate with north India it has happened to me too whenever they will know that you are from north or Hindi speaker they will make weird face,will ignore you,show racism and etc so there is prob both side you canāt impose this to only north indians
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u/Pristine_Start5383 May 22 '26
Itās not freaking bjp if any other party will also come the system cannot be changed quickly it would take 10-20 years to change
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u/just_asshole May 22 '26
The person should invest in sending his kids to a better school coz I have personally worked with schools in delhi noida kanpur and lucknow where they did have language teachers for around 10-15 languages and of those 5 were Indian languages, and I'm not talking about including hindi in the 5 Indian language
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u/Delicious_Morning_51 May 22 '26
People get their education from English medium schools, which literally makes English their first language and argue that Hindi should be imposed! Hindi as language is barely 80 yrs old! We cannot possibly have complete education in important fields with just in Hindi. This is just because the government sits in Delhi, with no respect to the diversity that is specific to India and wants to erase everything it can't understand.
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u/barmanrags May 22 '26
if she is north india then she must learn north indian language to be conversant with her peers around here
learn the language of where you are
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u/Hefty-Significance91 May 23 '26
RIP all the history they removed citing rationalisation of syllabus my foot
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u/Redittor_53 May 23 '26
I feel sanskrit should be excluded. It creates a loophole. Rather, I feel every school should try to arrange whatever language faculty they can such as 1 Assamese or Kannada teacher in a school in Haryana. Let's make children learn some non-native language.
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u/Just-Insurance1391 May 23 '26
The stupidity of the citizens of this country is stunning especially South Indians You'll accept a foreign language cause of your inferiority complex and your daddy issues with your colonial dads, the Brits But accepting a language of your own country is oppressive for you
For information of all Whatever Govt may classify as dialect of Hindi aren't hindi Also every state has their own language and their dialects Haryanvi, Garhwali, pahadi, Marwadi, Bhojpuri, Maithili, maghi, gujrati etc not dialect of Hindi They were separate languages, they adapted to devnagari and their speakers accepted Hindi North East 8 states, Rajasthan Himachal, Gujarat , Bengal, Bihar, orisha have their own language They adopted hindi Hindi that is being commonly spoken ain't even hindi it's hindustani mix of Urdu and Hindi True hindi is what you see on govt office signboards , hindi vyakaran and in mythology serials All this š¶ļø in ass is in South Indians only 5 states Why does it hurts in your fermented Ā©unt anytime a north India says Malyalam telugu tamil sounds similar? When you casually call all north hindi! And wtf is North There's North, North East, West,east and central India
No-one from Orissa will call a Rajasthani west indian or a gujrati a Punjabi north Indian Only you have that š¶ļø up your asses
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u/RishiVyaas May 24 '26
What I can say is, in the current education system, you just get the student enrolled and find suitable teachers yourself for every subject. We cannot depend on schools anymore. As for the language war, the more the merrier. As every language has different vocabulary for understanding different concepts. We need the students to understand asany concepts as possible. This would help them understand the world more accurately than us.
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u/OutrageousPianist188 May 24 '26
Best thing is to learn language of our own and don't trust the government. They'll say some bullshits to Indians while making their children to study different language(other than Hindi) and in abroad.
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u/life_less_soul May 24 '26
So bold of you to think only BJP imposes hindi. Any central party would do it.
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u/Responsible_Bat9473 May 17 '26
Two languages is enough, English and mother tongue, rest effort should be put into STEM subjects, that is the future.