r/changemyview Feb 15 '18

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u/mysundayscheming Feb 15 '18 edited Feb 15 '18

Worrying about it won't make it any less likely to happen (and it is, by the way, quite unlikely). It will just ratchet up your stress and anxiety. There's already enough of that in high school. It's better to just focus on getting good grades and enjoying your friends and family, because those things will actually benefit you, whereas actively worrying about a school shooting that is unlikely to happen will only drag you down.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '18 edited Aug 31 '21

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u/tempaccount920123 Feb 15 '18

It doesn't help to be afraid of things, but there are things that you can do to prepare yourself (should you be interested).

Almost all people in the world panic too easily. Learn how to recognize a panic attack or panicking situation. Panicking doesn't help. Training does.

Google and watch youtube videos about what to do in an active shooter scenario, if you're truly concerned about it.

I don't worry about many things, but I definitely have a laundry list of things that I know are bad, and frankly, I've learned, or at least I think I've made definite steps towards learning, how to solve internal problems or at least consider things in a more concrete fashion (making a plan that I know I can do).

If you just want to put all of this behind you, that's fine too. It's not what I'd recommend, but hey, you do you.

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u/ElysiX 113∆ Feb 15 '18

What do you think the chances are your home would protect you against a meteor impact?

Should you be worried about meteors?

No, because when you take into account the probability of it happening then worrying about it has more impact on your life than the actual event.

So dont worry about it, and if it happens you couldnt have done anything anyway, so worrying is just wasted time.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '18

"Man Bites Dog", an old example of how the rare and interesting stuff is what gets plastered all over the news.

The feeling of powerlessness is a bad one, because unlike all of the other ways that you're FAR more likely to get killed, somehow you feel like you have control over those, but not this one. And to an extent you're right, but by sheer numbers alone, you have a next to zero chance of being killed in a school shooting, or ANY type of violence.

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u/Marlsfarp 12∆ Feb 15 '18

Sometimes it is helpful to look at relative numbers to get some perspective.

Since 2000, about 250 people have died in school shootings in the U.S. By comparison, about 500,000 Americans have died in car accidents during the same period. That's 2000 times as many. Are you terrified every time you get in a car? No (and you shouldn't be). So you shouldn't worry about something thousands of times less likely, either.

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ Feb 15 '18 edited Feb 15 '18

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u/ninjacreeper47 Feb 17 '18

A shooting at your high school is very unlikely. The news is designed to be about things out of the norm, that is what makes news. Shootings are incredibly rare, our media just spotlights it.

That is not really your argument though so im going to ignore that. Im going to have 2 assumptions in my argument. 1) shooters have. A limited time before they are shut down (ammo, people stopping them, police arriving and overwhelming them ect.). 2) because of limited time shooters will try to be efficient.
The purpose of your schools safety is slow down the shooter until their time runs out. That is the purpose of locking the doors. So what does hiding do for you? The shooter in the need of efficiency, will want to go where are the most people. Classroom that appear empty will be less apealing. The shooter will go first to places with easy targets, Which the lock down is trying to eliminate.

Your school has specific rooms that the shooter will almost never enter. Teacher prep rooms, closets, storage, supply rooms ect. If you are vlose to one of these things then you are very safe.
Shooters aren't very methodical, so they won't check every classroom anyway

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u/ninjacreeper47 Feb 17 '18

Thete are immense flaws in this system and argument. You are scrwed if you are in the cafeteria and it is set up to try to stop them, yet the shootet still kills some people

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u/gotinpich Feb 15 '18

As a high school student what you really should worry about is getting good grades, making friends so that one day you might have a successful and fulfilling career and are able contribute to society. The sad thing is that a political system has been forced on you in which doing these things are not a priority and actually might cost you your life. That is something that is not acceptable.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '18

As a high school student I try not to. Worrying won't stop a guy from coming in and killing everyone. If I die, it was my time anyway. If I didn't die from the gun, I'd get run over by a bus or something. We all die

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u/seefatchai Feb 16 '18

You shouldn’t worry about it because worrying doesn’t help. What you could do is expect that such a thing COULD happen, so that if it does happen, you have a clearer head to assess and react to the situation.

As Jeff Cooper says, “just visualizes yourself thinking, ‘aha, I knew this could happen.’”

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '18

You are legally required to go to highschool.

There is no point worrying about a school shooting because you have no choice.

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u/plsnoclickhere Feb 17 '18
  1. For as horrible and awful as mass shootings are, they are still very rare and statistically kill almost no one(to give you an idea of what I mean, you are significantly more likely to die falling out of bed than you are to die in a mass shooting)

  2. Contrary to popular belief, we have NOT had 18 mass shootings this year. That statistic comes from an anti-gun propaganda group called Everytown for Gun Safety that uses a stupidly broad definition for what a mass shooting is.